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Metallica

  • 07-06-2007 11:18pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20


    i made this thread to talk about metallica and when there new album is coming when dey coming to ireland again etc....
    so enjoy saying stuff bout metallica


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 740 ✭✭✭steveone


    i remember buying ride the lightening when it was released, loved metallica i did, learned all the solo's on all the old songs....., but for maybe two tracks anything after garage days /justice for all is poor IMO, wouldn't go to see them myself..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,663 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    I agree. Some of the songs on their latter albums aren't up to scratch, but I'd still go to see them in concert. I think they're unbeatable as a live act. I'm going to see them in Wembley next month too. Can't wait.:D


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Ah christ, another Metallica thread without any substance. Just like St Anger I guess :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,663 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    feylya wrote:
    Ah christ, another Metallica thread without any substance. Just like St Anger I guess :p


    Ouch!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Alter-Ego


    Pretty much the same thread every 6 months.

    Always the same:

    New album coming out soon.
    St. Anger sucked.
    They went downhill after ..and justice...
    They're now crap live.
    Any irish gigs?

    Dig around kopman, there's threads here and in Gigs/Events.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 364 ✭✭Paligulus


    Alter-Ego wrote:
    Pretty much the same thread every 6 months.

    Always the same:

    New album coming out soon.
    St. Anger sucked.
    They went downhill after ..and justice...
    They're now crap live.
    Any irish gigs?

    Dig around kopman, there's threads here and in Gigs/Events.

    and sher, everybody knows Dave Mustaine wrote the first two albums anyway....
    ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,350 ✭✭✭Het-Field


    Iv seen Metallica 5 times since 1999, and they have never failed to blow me away. In fact they are so good live I shall be joining Mental Mickey on July 8th at Wembley Stadium

    The most annoying thing in the world is having to listen to fifteen year olds outside Metallica gigs talking about how Metallica sold out. Many of them were not even born on the black album's release.

    Kill Em All/Ride The Lightning/Master of Puppets/Justice were all amazing albums. However, my favourites are Load/Lighting. I was blown away by Load and ReLoad in the mid 1990s as an impressionable 11 year old. Yes it was a major change in their musical direction, however, it should not be considered an unwelcome change. Fans attitudes towards Load and Reload, have prevented Metallica from using it in their recent setlists. Fuel is the only song which regularly appears in live shows, with The Memory Remians, and Wasting My Hate making occasional appearences.

    Frankly it is becoming frustrating how regular Metallica use the Songs from Master Of Puppets and The Black Album during live shows.

    Since 1999 I have heard

    Battery x5
    Master of Puppets x5
    Thingy x3
    Sanitarium x3
    Heroes x1
    Orion x1
    Damage Inc x2
    Enter Sandman x5
    Sad But True x5
    Holier Than Thou x1
    The Unforgiven x1
    The God That Failed x2
    Nothing Else Matters x5
    Wherever I May Roam x3
    My Friend of Misery (Jam)x1

    Unfortunatly I have heard
    2 Songs from Kill Em All (No Remorse x1 Seek and Destroy x5)
    5 From Ride The Lightining (Fade x2, Kutulu x1, Fire x1,Bells x2 Creeping x5)
    3 From Justice (Blackened x2, One x 5, Harvester of Sorrow x2)
    2 from Load (King Nothing x2, Bleeding Me x1)
    2 From Reload (Fuel x5, Memory Remians x1)
    2 From Garage Inc (Turn the Page x1, Whiskey x 3)
    1 From S&M (No Leaf Clover x2)
    2 From St Anger (Frantic x3 St Anger x3)

    Its time Metallica change thier setlist. Im not suggesting removing the greats, but I mean give more variety to the fans. Bells is only occasionally played in my presence, while I have heard very little from Justice and the Load era. Iv also heard very little from the Kill Em All Albuim.

    More Variety would be great !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭0ubliette


    well i guess it gives me an excuse to post my alternative take on the stanger album cover..

    untitled2og5.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭8k2q1gfcz9s5d4


    Paligulus wrote:
    and sher, everybody knows Dave Mustaine wrote the first two albums anyway....
    ;)

    i think that deserves to be thread by itself;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,372 ✭✭✭The Bollox


    it deserves it's own forum


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,663 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    Het-Field wrote:
    Iv seen Metallica 5 times since 1999, and they have never failed to blow me away. In fact they are so good live I shall be joining Mental Mickey on July 8th at Wembley Stadium

    The most annoying thing in the world is having to listen to fifteen year olds outside Metallica gigs talking about how Metallica sold out. Many of them were not even born on the black album's release.

    Kill Em All/Ride The Lightning/Master of Puppets/Justice were all amazing albums. However, my favourites are Load/Lighting. I was blown away by Load and ReLoad in the mid 1990s as an impressionable 11 year old. Yes it was a major change in their musical direction, however, it should not be considered an unwelcome change. Fans attitudes towards Load and Reload, have prevented Metallica from using it in their recent setlists. Fuel is the only song which regularly appears in live shows, with The Memory Remians, and Wasting My Hate making occasional appearences.

    Frankly it is becoming frustrating how regular Metallica use the Songs from Master Of Puppets and The Black Album during live shows.

    Since 1999 I have heard

    Battery x5
    Master of Puppets x5
    Thingy x3
    Sanitarium x3
    Heroes x1
    Orion x1
    Damage Inc x2
    Enter Sandman x5
    Sad But True x5
    Holier Than Thou x1
    The Unforgiven x1
    The God That Failed x2
    Nothing Else Matters x5
    Wherever I May Roam x3
    My Friend of Misery (Jam)x1

    Unfortunatly I have heard
    2 Songs from Kill Em All (No Remorse x1 Seek and Destroy x5)
    5 From Ride The Lightining (Fade x2, Kutulu x1, Fire x1,Bells x2 Creeping x5)
    3 From Justice (Blackened x2, One x 5, Harvester of Sorrow x2)
    2 from Load (King Nothing x2, Bleeding Me x1)
    2 From Reload (Fuel x5, Memory Remians x1)
    2 From Garage Inc (Turn the Page x1, Whiskey x 3)
    1 From S&M (No Leaf Clover x2)
    2 From St Anger (Frantic x3 St Anger x3)

    Its time Metallica change thier setlist. Im not suggesting removing the greats, but I mean give more variety to the fans. Bells is only occasionally played in my presence, while I have heard very little from Justice and the Load era. Iv also heard very little from the Kill Em All Albuim.

    More Variety would be great !

    Why would more variety be great?? They know exactly what songs that people want to hear!!! Face it, everyone who is a Metallica fan, absolutely LOVES the first 3 albums!!!!! The reason they don't do many songs from AJFA live is that, frankly, they are waaaaaaaaay too long. The only time I remember them doing more than one song from that album was on the Black Album tour, when they did a medley of songs. Also, they don't delve into too many songs from Load/Re-Load cos, frankly, they weren't too well recieved(at least Re-Load wasn't anyway). IF they were to do any songs from Re-Load live, I would love it to be The Unforgiven II - f***in class song.

    If the Wembley gig is half as good as the gig in the RDS last summer, we're goin to get our heads blown off!!!!

    Now, if only Ticketmaster UK would hurry their a***s up and send out the bloody tickets!!!!!???

    See ya there Het-Field!!!:D

    EDIT: By the way, has any of you who have purchased tickets for the Metallica gig, received an e-mail letting you know when tickets should be dispatched? I haven't received said e-mail yet, and with the gig being a month away, I'm gettin a WEE bit panicky!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,663 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    Alter-Ego wrote:
    Pretty much the same thread every 6 months.

    Always the same:

    New album coming out soon.
    St. Anger sucked.
    They went downhill after ..and justice...
    They're now crap live.
    Any irish gigs?

    Dig around kopman, there's threads here and in Gigs/Events.

    Metallica crap live???? :D:D:D:D:D:D - are you on drugs pal????


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,663 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Metallica crap live???? :D:D:D:D:D:D - are you on drugs pal????

    dont worry about it, everyone loves to moan about metallica.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,663 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    faceman wrote:
    dont worry about it, everyone loves to moan about metallica.


    True. Still,though. He must be f**kin DEAF if he thinks they're s**t live??? If he attended last summer's gig at the RDS, he would disagree entirely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,663 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    Paligulus wrote:
    and sher, everybody knows Dave Mustaine wrote the first two albums anyway....
    ;)


    Where is he now though......? Playin s**tholes like the Ambassador!!!!:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Alter-Ego


    Metallica crap live???? :D:D:D:D:D:D - are you on drugs pal????
    I never said metallica were crap live. I was clearly giving an example of the sh1t that comes up whenever sombody starts a "Metallica" thread.
    True. Still,though. He must be f**kin DEAF if he thinks they're s**t live??? If he attended last summer's gig at the RDS, he would disagree entirely.

    I was at the gig last summer and i've been at better gigs tbh.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,658 ✭✭✭Patricide


    For anyone whos interested in hearing the two new metallica songs in studio quality go here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pS5rODQ2ao&mode=related&search=
    And here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWmMW3Dp7Nw&mode=related&search=

    There not actually played by metallica buy by some guy who covers them really good, plus its in studio quality so. Imo they sound way way way better recorded than when played live by metallica but I still wouldnt buy a cd with them on it. Esp the second one, to me its just god awfull. Still though its a hell of a lot better than st."Festering pile of crap" anger.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Where is he now though......? Playin s**tholes like the Ambassador!!!!:rolleyes:

    So by that logic Westlife are one of the best quality bands in the world cos they always play loads of dates in big venues?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    HEY, what are you saying about Westlife?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    HEY I'm saying that because they play bigger venues than Metallica over here they are clearly the superior musical force.


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Ah, grand. I thought you were saying they were bad :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Only if by bad you mean Michael Jackson bad, in which case, yes, they're bad mofos :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,708 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    feylya wrote:
    Ah christ, another Metallica thread without any substance. Just like St Anger I guess :p
    ^^ Definitely the most interesting and original statement posted in a Metallica thread on boards.ie. Any more, and its like squeezing blood out of a turnip


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    /me takes a bow


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,238 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    I've never understood what was (supposedly) so great about the Black album...

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,663 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    ^ as a long time hard core metallica fan i can no longer listen to the original album version of the songs as i find the album too over produced. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭neGev


    Metallica threads are great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Yussss!!! Another Metallica thread!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭irish_boy90


    he was saying that westlife are better than metalica live. Gettim boy


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 364 ✭✭Paligulus


    Personally I think the main problem with Metallica, as a band, is that it insists upon itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭slayerking


    Patricide wrote:
    For anyone whos interested in hearing the two new metallica songs in studio quality go here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pS5rODQ2ao&mode=related&search=
    And here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWmMW3Dp7Nw&mode=related&search=

    There not actually played by metallica buy by some guy who covers them really good, plus its in studio quality so. Imo they sound way way way better recorded than when played live by metallica but I still wouldnt buy a cd with them on it. Esp the second one, to me its just god awfull. Still though its a hell of a lot better than st."Festering pile of crap" anger.

    Rob said in an interview that those two songs wont be on the new album, which I was delighted to hear!!!
    Still kinda worries me that thats the kinda stuff it could be like.

    I'm still gona hope for a good album though...... and pray!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,656 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Jaysus, Lars is going ninety on the double bass! Songs are nice and heavy anyway...nothing spectacular though. James sounds very different.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    There not actually played by metallica buy by some guy who covers them

    ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,350 ✭✭✭Het-Field


    Why would more variety be great?? They know exactly what songs that people want to hear!!! Face it, everyone who is a Metallica fan, absolutely LOVES the first 3 albums!!!!! The reason they don't do many songs from AJFA live is that, frankly, they are waaaaaaaaay too long. The only time I remember them doing more than one song from that album was on the Black Album tour, when they did a medley of songs. Also, they don't delve into too many songs from Load/Re-Load cos, frankly, they weren't too well recieved(at least Re-Load wasn't anyway). IF they were to do any songs from Re-Load live, I would love it to be The Unforgiven II - f***in class song.

    If the Wembley gig is half as good as the gig in the RDS last summer, we're goin to get our heads blown off!!!!

    Now, if only Ticketmaster UK would hurry their a***s up and send out the bloody tickets!!!!!???

    See ya there Het-Field!!!:D

    EDIT: By the way, has any of you who have purchased tickets for the Metallica gig, received an e-mail letting you know when tickets should be dispatched? I haven't received said e-mail yet, and with the gig being a month away, I'm gettin a WEE bit panicky!!!
    f

    Dont worry MM. If youve booked them they will come.:D

    Variety : More Kill Em All
    Less Black Album
    Slightly Less Puppetz

    My Dream SetList For Wembley

    1.Blackened
    2.Master Of Puppets
    3.Ride The Lightning
    4.Welcome Home Sanatarium
    5.Harvester of Sorrow
    6.No Remorse
    7.The Unforgiven/The Unforgiven ii (Medley)
    8.Fuel
    9.Trapped Under Ice
    10.Enter Sandman

    11.The Memory Remains
    12.Fade To Black
    13.Nothing Else Matters
    14.Creeping Death
    15.One
    16.Whiplash

    17.So What/Last Caress
    18.The Four Horsemen
    19.Breadfan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,658 ✭✭✭Patricide


    Thatd be one niceeee setlist, the only thing id add in there would be the obligitory cover of whiskey (what can i say, im a sucker for that song) and i dissapear just cause i think its such an underrated metallica song and ive never heard of it being played live.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭neGev


    Paligulus wrote:
    Personally I think the main problem with Metallica, as a band, is that it insists upon itself.
    Haha!
    Patricide wrote:
    i dissapear just cause i think its such an underrated metallica song and ive never heard of it being played live.
    There's a reason for this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Patricide wrote:
    Thatd be one niceeee setlist, the only thing id add in there would be the obligitory cover of whiskey (what can i say, im a sucker for that song) and i dissapear just cause i think its such an underrated metallica song and ive never heard of it being played live.
    I do recall the, playing that the last time they were in Dublin.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    I've never understood what was (supposedly) so great about the Black album...
    Nothing much, pretty meh.
    Regular post about them sucking after the fourth album etc.
    St anger is good if I really want to laugh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Civilian_Target


    Hmm... hetfield, I'm wondering how accurate your set list is... certainly if you saw them in Ireland I remember them playing The Four Horsemen in 2004 to start with...

    Overall I was disappointed by their performance here in 2004, but in 2006 they were superb!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Hmm... hetfield, I'm wondering how accurate your set list is... certainly if you saw them in Ireland I remember them playing The Four Horsemen in 2004 to start with...
    No they didn't.
    The only songs they played from Kill 'Em All were No Remorse and S&D.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,658 ✭✭✭Patricide


    I didnt go, id seen metallica like 3 times before so i couldnt justify payig 60 euro to see em again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Aw but c'mon, Linkin Park were there! How could you not go?!!?!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,658 ✭✭✭Patricide


    I was there for the year with linkin park haha, and as much as 99% of people despise them with all the fury of the earth i have no shame in saying that i like them(well up to there latest abomination of an album, whoud a thunk that taken out the rap would make them SUCK BALLS-to me anyway).

    I dont remember them playing i dissapear then but i did get knocked out for a bit of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 302 ✭✭maxitwist


    Het-Field wrote:

    The most annoying thing in the world is having to listen to fifteen year olds outside Metallica gigs talking about how Metallica sold out. Many of them were not even born on the black album's release.

    so? sothey know that they were really good and now suck and have become to corprate, its clear their not in it for the metal anymore and why should it matter they're age? are you not allowed to like the rolling stones because their from a different generation?
    Het-Field wrote:
    Since 1999 I have heard

    Battery x5
    Master of Puppets x5
    Thingy x3
    Sanitarium x3
    Heroes x1
    Orion x1
    Damage Inc x2
    Enter Sandman x5
    Sad But True x5
    Holier Than Thou x1
    The Unforgiven x1
    The God That Failed x2
    Nothing Else Matters x5
    Wherever I May Roam x3
    My Friend of Misery (Jam)x1

    Unfortunatly I have heard
    2 Songs from Kill Em All (No Remorse x1 Seek and Destroy x5)
    5 From Ride The Lightining (Fade x2, Kutulu x1, Fire x1,Bells x2 Creeping x5)
    3 From Justice (Blackened x2, One x 5, Harvester of Sorrow x2)
    2 from Load (King Nothing x2, Bleeding Me x1)
    2 From Reload (Fuel x5, Memory Remians x1)
    2 From Garage Inc (Turn the Page x1, Whiskey x 3)
    1 From S&M (No Leaf Clover x2)
    2 From St Anger (Frantic x3 St Anger x3)

    More Variety would be great!

    you don't like fuel or the memory remains? wtf! or one! what the hell!
    everyone likes fuel and one. and whiskey for that matter (the song too)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Patricide wrote:
    I was there for the year with linkin park haha, and as much as 99% of people despise them with all the fury of the earth i have no shame in saying that i like them(well up to there latest abomination of an album, whoud a thunk that taken out the rap would make them SUCK BALLS-to me anyway).

    I dont remember them playing i dissapear then but i did get knocked out for a bit of it.
    They played I dissapear the second time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,350 ✭✭✭Het-Field


    They played I dissapear the second time.


    Setlist 1999 (not in order as i cant exactly remember)

    Breadfan
    Master Of Puppets
    Call of Kutulu
    Fight Fire with Fire
    Memory Remains
    King Nothing
    Fuel
    Bleeding Me
    Turn The Page
    Sad But True
    One
    Nothing Else Matters
    Enter Sandman
    Thing That Should Not Be
    Of Wolf and Man
    Battery
    Whiskey In The Jar


    Setlist 2003
    Battery
    Master Of Puppets
    Harvester of Sorrow
    Sanitarium
    Frantic
    For Whom The Bell Tolls
    St Anger
    No Remorse
    Seek and Destroy
    Sad But True

    Fuel
    Blackened
    Creeping Death

    Nothing Else Matters
    One
    Enter Sandman


    2004
    Blackened
    Fuel
    Sad But True
    Fade To Black
    Frantic
    King Nothing
    Wherever I May Roam
    Holier Than Thou
    St Ange
    Creeping Death
    Battery
    No Leaf Clover
    Nothing Else Matters
    Master Of Puppets
    One
    Enter Sandman
    Whiskey in The Jar
    Seek and Destroy

    2006
    Creeping Death
    Fuel
    Wherevedr I May Roam
    God That Failed
    The Unforgiven
    Battery
    Master Of Puppets
    Thing that Should Not Be
    Sanitarium
    Disposable Heroes
    Leper Messiah
    Orion
    Damage Inc
    Sad But True
    Nothing Else Matters
    One
    Enter Sandman
    Whiskey in The Jar
    Seek and Destroy

    Refresh all Memories


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,350 ✭✭✭Het-Field


    maxitwist wrote:
    so? sothey know that they were really good and now suck and have become to corprate, its clear their not in it for the metal anymore and why should it matter they're age? are you not allowed to like the rolling stones because their from a different generation?


    you don't like fuel or the memory remains? wtf! or one! what the hell!
    everyone likes fuel and one. and whiskey for that matter (the song too)


    Ah no man. I love those songs, and they are great live. I aint complaining, just asking for more variety


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,656 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    They played Whisky in the Jar in 2003. Was my first ever gig, I remember that one well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,350 ✭✭✭Het-Field


    Mushy wrote:
    They played Whisky in the Jar in 2003. Was my first ever gig, I remember that one well.

    Na man. Remember, in 2004 people were shouting for Whiskey for the entire set, and Hetfield says "what you want" to which the crowd responded Whiskey, and hetfield exclaimed "we forgot to play it last time". They never played it in 2003 they finished with Enter Sandman.

    Finally, I got my tickets for METALLICA AT WEMBLEY. And they look COOL


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    i was there for the gig they skipped whiskey, made my day. I was ****ing delighted. They left One for the last song.. far better finish to the night, way more climactic than that second rate cover.


    I really thought they weren't going to play it (one) :(


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