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Cheating !!

  • 07-06-2007 6:22pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 829 ✭✭✭


    Ok does anyone else it is easy 2 cheat in the leaving Cert !. I Thought it be alot stricter !!. Now i didnt cheat and never would unless REALLY REALLY desperate!!! but i went 2 the bathroom yday and english books on the lockers , Nobody Else there !!! Loads of my friends hav notes in their pockets but its too risky for my liking !!! Is this the same case ur anyone elses school


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 120 ✭✭______


    Ok does anyone else it is easy 2 cheat in the leaving Cert !. I Thought it be alot stricter !!. Now i didnt cheat and never would unless REALLY REALLY desperate!!! but i went 2 the bathroom yday and english books on the lockers , Nobody Else there !!! Loads of my friends hav notes in their pockets but its too risky for my liking !!! Is this the same case ur anyone elses school

    i dont think so.

    but couldn't you just put it all onto your phone and look at it in the bathroom?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,715 ✭✭✭marco murphy


    So easy but I would feel totally guilty. I would rather fail like a man than cheat like a woman. I got an email, www.howtocheatinyourleavingcert.com, did anyone else get this email?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭xha1r


    Why the !!!!!! and REALLY?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭ZorbaTehZ


    I wouldn't do it personally, and I haven't seen anybody either. However quite a few people are using concentration aids like pills and tablets, which I don't consider cheating.

    OP, you realise the consequences of getting caught?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭genericgoon


    Speaking of pills some ppl looked absolutley wrecked today. It was if the life was being slowly drained from them. Some ppl were studying late. :P


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Haven't a Clue


    For once I haven't cheated at all. Though I reckon the examiners're getting suspicious of me at this stage cause I'd to go to the jacks three times today. Though with all the bloody heat, I'm drinking an awful lot (e.g. I drank two bottles of water and a pint of milk today).

    Tbh, good luck to anyone who wants to cheat. They just have to be prepared to accept the consequences should they be caught.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 120 ✭✭______


    i considering learning off an answer beforehand cheating


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 241 ✭✭artnotort


    ______ wrote:
    i considering learning off an answer beforehand cheating
    the leaving cert is a memory test.

    learning perfect answers off is probably the smartest thing you could do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    ______ wrote:
    i considering learning off an answer beforehand cheating

    Ha, how so. Seems nonsensical given the nature of the leaving cert, which is to learn off as much as possible are write it all out as quickly as possible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 829 ✭✭✭justbringit89


    artnotort wrote:
    the leaving cert is a memory test.

    learning perfect answers off is probably the smartest thing you could do.

    Totally agree !! i learned of a Bgrade short story and found a way to link it into the pictures !! Sorted!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 120 ✭✭______


    yes but i disagree with it because there is no way in hell that i'd bother learning anything.

    i'll regret it come august i suppose, but if i repeat i'll just do the same.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 630 ✭✭✭Lucas10101


    It's not a memory test if you want to learn the work piece by piece in school hours saving hours and hours of memory work that might seem daunting and pressurising.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    One guy in my year had English quotes on his thigh. Went to the jax and memorised what he neede. Risky if you ask me...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 829 ✭✭✭justbringit89


    Ya know this will prob make sum of ye mad But in honours irish (which im not part of , i will fail ord irish) there is only like 6 students who are doing honours out of 50 students and the examiner was helping them asking them did they want to know any irish words???? Lucky Cu*nts


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 201 ✭✭Spank


    Why is it risky? No examiner is going to follow you to the toilet.

    I am actually quite peed off with the lack of supervision in my exam center. We are in a huge hall with just two supervisors who wouldn't notice a tornado hitting. We are let into the hall when we please and were given our answer books and tables while we were sitting there with our notes revising. Who's to say we wouldn't sketch in a few formulas etc? People pop in and out of the toilets constantly, with teachers etc out in the hall.

    It's well laid back.

    Btw when you go to the toilet what is written on your booklet and does it have any effect on things?

    Oh look I've gone off on a tangent, bit like my english exam.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 oasisfan


    I wouldnt cheat as its like a 10 year ban from state exams not worth it for a few extra %, but i no of one guy who recorded all his macbeth quotes nd plath quotes on his ipod and had one of the ear pieces going up his sleave to the palm of his hand! very clever!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 120 ✭✭______


    obl wrote:
    One guy in my year had English quotes on his thigh. Went to the jax and memorised what he neede. Risky if you ask me...

    that seems pretty foolproof if you ask me.



    should do some accounting study, to guarentee the A, but i know i wont:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 201 ✭✭Spank


    oasisfan wrote:
    I wouldnt cheat as its like a 10 year ban from state exams not worth it for a few extra %, but i no of one guy who recorded all his macbeth quotes nd plath quotes on his ipod and had one of the ear pieces going up his sleave to the palm of his hand! very clever!!
    Now that's risky. However, popping off to the toilets and reading off your body is pretty much foolproof.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭cocoa


    it's written on your paper when you left and came back. if your exam seems suspicious they check the time.

    It's really lax in my exam centre. People were opening the paper as soon as she handed it out (like 5 mins before we were told to turn it over..) and she's been late in to start the exams a few times....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    I was thinking more along the lines of sweating...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    im not doing the leaving atm, but im supervising (ie im the monkey that escorts you to the bathroom) and ive kinda suspected one or two guys of cheatin but they frighten me so nothings gonna happen in that respect (no way of proving it too) but i was in the toilets upstairs in my school (next to one of the other exam centres) AND there was a complete folder of irish notes sitting on the window. Needles to say i was shocked


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭david


    Fad wrote:
    im not doing the leaving atm, but im supervising (ie im the monkey that escorts you to the bathroom) and ive kinda suspected one or two guys of cheatin but they frighten me so nothings gonna happen in that respect (no way of proving it too) but i was in the toilets upstairs in my school (next to one of the other exam centres) AND there was a complete folder of irish notes sitting on the window. Needles to say i was shocked
    Just take the folder and hide it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 148 ✭✭kieranmcg1


    Fad wrote:
    im not doing the leaving atm, but im supervising (ie im the monkey that escorts you to the bathroom) and ive kinda suspected one or two guys of cheatin but they frighten me so nothings gonna happen in that respect (no way of proving it too) but i was in the toilets upstairs in my school (next to one of the other exam centres) AND there was a complete folder of irish notes sitting on the window. Needles to say i was shocked


    But could you imagine telling on someone and ending up causing someone to fail their leaving cert and have to do it again and would be doing it along with you next year . and ud end up getin a name for yourself as the person who caused fellow student to end up doing another year or even two in school .

    Id cheat but only on math paper 2 i am very bad at maths and thats the only one id cheat on . Our examiner is unreal today in maths paper 1 I hd my hand in the air for 15 mins and i wasnt the only one there were about 6 ppl with their hands in the air and she didnt even see us you could cheat no problem at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭cocoa


    kieranmcg1 wrote:
    But could you imagine telling on someone and ending up causing someone to fail their leaving cert and have to do it again and would be doing it along with you next year . and ud end up getin a name for yourself as the person who caused fellow student to end up doing another year or even two in school .

    yes, I could live with making someone pay for trying to do better than their fellow students unfairly...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,654 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    kieranmcg1 wrote:
    But could you imagine telling on someone and ending up causing someone to fail their leaving cert and have to do it again and would be doing it along with you next year . and ud end up getin a name for yourself as the person who caused fellow student to end up doing another year or even two in school.

    Could very much so live with myself if that happened. Their own fault. Plus, isnt there like a 7 year gap if your caught cheating?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,715 ✭✭✭marco murphy


    I know a fella that put formulas in his sock, why tatoo yourself with formulas when you can use your sock. Ipod up your sleeve is some idea fair dues there LOL. What you think of this website? I feel like buying into it for a nosey..

    http://www.howtocheatintheleavingcert.com/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    i could quite easily live with myself IF i did it, it wouldnt be worth living it was found out i was the ''informant'' not only does the guy himself frighten me but he has a very loud mouthed brother in my year so the consequences would be a little severe for my liking, oh well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Enemy Of Fate


    Why the hell would you write them on your thigh?I just write things on the inside of my palms.I did it with the ''king becoming qualities'' Malcolm listed in Macbeth, and I did it with some of the formulas in maths today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,715 ✭✭✭marco murphy


    Why the hell would you write them on your thigh?I just write things on the inside of my palms.I did it with the ''king becoming qualities'' Malcolm listed in Macbeth, and I did it with some of the formulas in maths today.
    Thats worse. It would take a 3 second investigation to determine whether you were cheating or not. Cosine rule written on me balls.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Enemy Of Fate


    Thats worse. It would take a 3 second investigation to determine whether you were cheating or not. Cosine rule written on me balls.
    ...What kind of freak would check the palm of your hand?Anyways we could probably cheat and our examiner wouldn't care.She'd probably just go ''come on now you can do well without cheating.....Now if you don't put those notes away in the next 5 minutes, I may have to give you another warning''.Shes so nice!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,715 ✭✭✭marco murphy


    EoF. Anything could happen, you could get caught looking, someone may rat you up. Theres no way out of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,552 ✭✭✭Steoob


    ya there were guys caught cheating in my school today... not in my centre tho coz my supervisor is sound.. but ya i dunno what happened to them, they were just copying off each other, they're eejits they were actually shout-whispering to each other asking what they got for questions :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    ______ wrote:
    yes but i disagree with it because there is no way in hell that i'd bother learning anything.

    i'll regret it come august i suppose, but if i repeat i'll just do the same.

    You sir, deserve to fail at life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,195 ✭✭✭Corruptedmorals


    If I did cheat, I'd be so scared of being caught that I'd end up doing worse than if I didn't know and hadn't cheated.

    I'd never cheat though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    ______ wrote:
    yes but i disagree with it because there is no way in hell that i'd bother learning anything.

    i'll regret it come august i suppose, but if i repeat i'll just do the same.
    Fair play to you, it is possble to do well without learning off, I got over 500 points doing what you did. And I felt better about it too.

    I never came across cheating while I attended the LC, but if I had, I would have reported it. You're being paid to do a job, not reporting people you see cheating is not doing your job, tbh. And I wouldn't have cheated in the leaving, even if it's easy to get away with the risks are not even a little bit worth it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭Emu McEmuerson


    jaaaaasus, our examiner is really really strict..

    well, like she's nice, but takes no s**t from anyone. she hands out the papers, and NO-ONE is allowed turn them over until the second hand reaches 12 at 9.30. she walks around the room during the exam and checks our pencil cases before each exam to check weither we have notes or whatever in them.

    personally, ok. ive cheated before in christmas exams, or ones in 5th year where you HAVE to pass them or your parents will go mad at you, but frankly, for the Leaving Cert? cummon lads?

    its THE exam that a person takes to test their levels etc. so that they can move on in life, i mean, dont get me started on the leaving cert system, its a load of BALLS! why should a person who could be an amazing doctor not be one just because he didnt learn off an irish poem and missed a few marks.

    (here i am waffling again.. oops)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭Emu McEmuerson


    but ANYWAYS... cheating in the leaving? hell no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,567 ✭✭✭delta_bravo


    I know a fella that put formulas in his sock, why tatoo yourself with formulas when you can use your sock. Ipod up your sleeve is some idea fair dues there LOL. What you think of this website? I feel like buying into it for a nosey..

    http://www.howtocheatintheleavingcert.com/

    Wouldnt recommend it . Just looked into it and its based in Arizona, its probably a scam http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=howtocheatintheleavingcert.com


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭jackdaw


    I'm assuming you all sat the English lower level ??

    because your writing is an absolute disgrace !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 482 ✭✭Steve01


    The guy sitting beside me was sending and receiving text messages throughout the exam this morning. Even with a ringtone going off every now and then the examiner still didn't notice!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 321 ✭✭Bluefox21


    hey give us a break we're free from english im never gonna use grammer again (or speak Irish for that matter) but realistically cheating will not make a huge difference especially if you need to and the risks are massive but I wouldnt report someone coz you'd ruin them....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 705 ✭✭✭yurmothrintites


    There are so many ways to cheat in the Leaving Cert! Personally I haven't cheated so far and I don't intend to either. As it has been said already, writing on yourself is a very good way, I mean the examiner cant check! Writing on record cards and keeping them in your shirt pocket is another way as they don't make much noise when you take them out in the bathroom. A phone is an obvious way as are books in the toilet.

    Basically the best way is to cheat the system and study like mad to get your oints. If you get caught cheating in the LC btw, you wont be able to repeat it ever again! Someone said earlier on that you could so there really isnt any point in cheating in these exams!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,472 ✭✭✭AdMMM


    One guy in our school decided to leave his school bag in the toilets. Not really a smart idea given that all his books had his name on them but somehow nobody found out!

    I'm surprised at the amount of people writing things on their thighs or other body parts. The easiest thing would be to put what you need on your phone, go to the toilet and just look at it there. That way you wouldn't have to use mirrors and the like to see those hard to reach areas :).

    Personally I don't think I'll be cheating. I know it's easy to do and given the complacent attitude of our examiner, I'm surprised that nobody has just plonked their books up on their table mid-exam!

    I think the most cheating that's actually going on is by the examiner herself. Today she was telling those doing Honours Irish what all the questions mean and giving them opening paragraphs. I'm not happy about that... if I knew I was going to be given the answers then I would have done Honours lol.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 powerofone


    I dont know how anyone that cheated could sleep at night, knowing that they could have stolen a college place from someone who actually studied and deserved it more than them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 649 ✭✭✭fillmore jive


    A guy in my year got caught cheating in english paper 2 the other day. Apparently he had these postcards with poetry quotes on them. The examiner was getting a bit suspicous of him, and checked his pencil case. And that's it, his paper was made invalid. He didn't come in for irish or maths, so we all presume he's repeating next year. But apparently you can get banned from all state exmainations if you're caught cheating. But the weird thing about it is nobody knows why he cheated. He is quite smart, he wouldn't be a waster or anything. He even planned on doing architecture next year. But just like that it's all over for him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭colm-ccfc84


    A guy in my year got caught cheating in english paper 2 the other day. Apparently he had these postcards with poetry quotes on them. The examiner was getting a bit suspicous of him, and checked his pencil case. And that's it, his paper was made invalid. He didn't come in for irish or maths, so we all presume he's repeating next year. But apparently you can get banned from all state exmainations if you're caught cheating. But the weird thing about it is nobody knows why he cheated. He is quite smart, he wouldn't be a waster or anything. He even planned on doing architecture next year. But just like that it's all over for him.
    And deservedly so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 btothei


    in my skool the ty's are the outside th door attendant guys and the follow us to jacks but they dont go in like r nyting jst wait at the door....and supposedly if they catch some one cheating they get paid extra...so if sum1 u didnt like went to the jacks then....well ha!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,472 ✭✭✭AdMMM


    In our school the TY's and 5th years are too busy playing with their PSPs to accompany you through the school to the toilets!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41 pilchard


    powerofone wrote:
    I dont know how anyone that cheated could sleep at night, knowing that they could have stolen a college place from someone who actually studied and deserved it more than them.


    I totally agree, i will struggle to get the points i need... but there is no way i would cheat...

    i would be really upset to find outthat i lost out on my place at University because someone beat me by cheatin:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 348 ✭✭analyse this


    I had a short phrase going into the irish p2 exam today, written on the inside of my hand. I was pretty nervous on the way in and even before i entered the hall I realised m:o y sweating hands had caused my work to vanish!!

    I took it as a sign and vowed never to be tempted by the unholy forces of dishonesty and malice ever again!!


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