Exam results

Orizio

Anyone know when we are supposed to get(and how we get)our exam results?

I heard roughly the end of the month.

LivingDead

I'm not sure what date they are out, but I would guess around the end of this month.

Log on to sit.ucc.ie to get your results.

essjay

Log on to UCC home page, click on current students, on the drop down menu click on exams, exam results on the next menu and you'll arrive on a page where issue dates by faculty can be found.

embraer170

http://www.ucc.ie/admin/registrar/examsrec/issuecomm.shtml

I remember two years ago they were available online a day before the stated date. Was that an accident or is it always the case?

Orizio

Thanks for the help.

roberta c

how'd you do?

Orizio

As I expected - got 60+ in my favoured subjects(History and Politics) and flunked Philosophy(which I think I now have to repeat).

Yourself?

roberta c

passed english and psych, failed philosophy and politics
so i'l see ya in the repeats!
i didnt show up for any class tests so it was bound to happn:)

Orizio

BTW Roberta what do you make of this 'additional one hour repeat examination in lieu of the continous assessment (in class test)must also be taken in Autumn'

Ekancone

My results

Developing Skills for Economic Analysis : 80%
Reasoning and Persuasion in Economics: 78.5%
Macroeconomics: 76.5%
History: 65%
Microeconomics: 60%
Data Collection and Analysis: 53.5% :mad:


Overall i got 69.2%, im absolutely miffed i didnt get a 1st, i had averaged 75% all year.

roberta c

havent been on this in ages,
ya whats with that? i passed those tests, im guessing i still have to sit it tmrw?
have you done anything for it? i havent even startd:o

Orizio

Yeah we have to do it. Short questions on Existentialism, Philosophy of Mind and Ethics.;)

roberta c

any tips for tmrw??!
i'm so screwed, dont think i'l ever learn to study in advance!
what do you thinks gonna come up?
i'm doing Justice
Bad faith
Functionalism&Behaviorism
Feminist ethics and one other ethics topic, not sure which though...
i prob should cover more, just dont have time!

Lucas10101

Hi, I'm doing Pharmacy this September, but just wondering are the exams split over the two semesters, i.e Half in Christma Exams and the rest at Summer?

Thanks.

Ekancone

Lucas10101 wrote:

Hi, I'm doing Pharmacy this September, but just wondering are the exams split over the two semesters, i.e Half in Christma Exams and the rest at Summer?

Thanks.

The norm in UCC tends to be a 20% continous assessment split between xmas and spring exams, with a mix of projects as well. Though some courses have a 40% CA rate. The remainder is then assessed in the summer examination. You can find out more details at the 'book of modules' section of the UCC website.

Lucas10101

Do we have to choose some modules, or are they all compulsory for us.

roberta c

why not try ringing the department? you can find most of these answers on the ucc website hidden somewhere, but its prob easier to ring.
this thread is about exam results and repeats.

Orizio

roberta c wrote:

any tips for tmrw??!
i'm so screwed, dont think i'l ever learn to study in advance!
what do you thinks gonna come up?
i'm doing Justice
Bad faith
Functionalism&Behaviorism
Feminist ethics and one other ethics topic, not sure which though...
i prob should cover more, just dont have time!

I haven't a clue as to whats coming up. I'd guess they won't repeat the same topics as summer but I'm not sure.

TBH I'm fairly confident. Unlike in summer I've actually spent the past fortnight studying and have every section covered. If I have to repeat first year I'll be beyond pissed...

Orizio

Anyone know when I might get my repeat result back?I did the exam on the 30th.

Carolus Magnus

http://www.ucc.ie/admin/registrar/examsrec/issuearts.shtml

Some time after the 10th of September, going on that.

Orizio

I suppose getting my result so late (18/19th Sept) will not affect my ability to get into History and Politics classes in second year?

Carolus Magnus

It shouldn't do. If you remember that piece of paper that was posted out with the results, it mentioned how students who did repeat exams could expect to register up to a week after those who passed all the summer exams (presumably with no detrimental effects, as I don't see them warning about certain module choices not being guaranteed, like the subjects in first year.) There's never any problems with demand anyway. I'd say a lot of chaff has been separated from wheat with respect to both of those subjects at this stage anyway. It'll be a far cry from the 350 odd students who took up history in first year at least.

Are you majoring in either Politics or History, or is it joint honours?

Orizio

Carolus Magnus wrote:

It shouldn't do. If you remember that piece of paper that was posted out with the results, it mentioned how students who did repeat exams could expect to register up to a week after those who passed all the summer exams (presumably with no detrimental effects, as I don't see them warning about certain module choices not being guaranteed, like the subjects in first year.) There's never any problems with demand anyway. I'd say a lot of chaff has been separated from wheat with respect to both of those subjects at this stage anyway. It'll be a far cry from the 350 odd students who took up history in first year at least.

Are you majoring in either Politics or History, or is it joint honours?

I do remember it, but can't seem to find it.Should I have registered for second year and for the History and Politics modules already then?I was waiting for my repeat result to return.

I'm doing joint honours anyway.

roberta c

I rang the english department yesterday n they said theres no problem gettting the subjects you want in 2nd year, so i'd say its the same for history.
i havent registered for anything yet, im pretty sure we wait for the results.

Carolus Magnus

I do remember it, but can't seem to find it.Should I have registered for second year and for the History and Politics modules already then?I was waiting for my repeat result to return.

The academic council wouldn't let you enroll for the coming year without having gotten 60 credits, so I'd say there's no need to worry. You'll have to wait for their final decision on your grades. There's one way to check for sure, and that's to log on to SIT using student number and PIN, and click on Student Administration, then Registration. If the option has been made available to you, then go ahead I'd say.

It probably hasn't though. It's available for me now though, and I presume it is for everyone else who passed 1st Arts in the Summer. It came online late too. Was due to be ready for September 10th, but only went live yesterday morning. So, +/- the week that the sheet mentioned for students awaiting repeat results, then I'd say that it's normal that you're expected to register on the 18th/19th.

Majoring in History myself. I'll see you around anyway I think, as history has a lot of compulsory modules.

Orizio

Carolus Magnus wrote:

The academic council wouldn't let you enroll for the coming year without having gotten 60 credits, so I'd say there's no need to worry. You'll have to wait for their final decision on your grades. There's one way to check for sure, and that's to log on to SIT using student number and PIN, and click on Student Administration, then Registration. If the option has been made available to you, then go ahead I'd say.

It probably hasn't though. It's available for me now though, and I presume it is for everyone else who passed 1st Arts in the Summer. It came online late too. Was due to be ready for September 10th, but only went live yesterday morning. So, +/- the week that the sheet mentioned for students awaiting repeat results, then I'd say that it's normal that you're expected to register on the 18th/19th.

Majoring in History myself. I'll see you around anyway I think, as history has a lot of compulsory modules.

No bother, I'll wait until I get my result back which, barring an absolute disaster, will be a pass.

TBH I'm just hoping I don't have any 9 a.m. classes in second year.

Carolus Magnus

There's nothing more disheartening than to have gotten up early to get in for the 9am lecture, only for Geoff not to be there, and the bugger to think nothing of walking in 20 minutes late, and maybe having a quick scan of the Irish Times and his bank statements too before he starts in to the lecture >_>

It's a mug's game so it is. A mug's and mature students' game. That last shower always like to get their front row seats so they can fawn over the lecturers, have their appropriately timed chortles heard loud and clear, and so that they're audible when they want to chime in about "Well, in my experience . . ." Jayze some of them are old enough to remember the course content :mad:

Any of the history modules jumping off the page for you at the moment? I know anyway that modules to the value of 20 credits are compulsory in Joint Honours, so you're left then with two 5 credit options to pick.

Ekancone

Carolus Magnus wrote:

There's nothing more disheartening than to have gotten up early to get in for the 9am lecture, only for Geoff not to be there, and the bugger to think nothing of walking in 20 minutes late, and maybe having a quick scan of the Irish Times and his bank statements too before he starts in to the lecture >_>

It's a mug's game so it is. A mug's and mature students' game. That last shower always like to get their front row seats so they can fawn over the lecturers, have their appropriately timed chortles heard loud and clear, and so that they're audible when they want to chime in about "Well, in my experience . . ." Jayze some of them are old enough to remember the course content :mad:

Any of the history modules jumping off the page for you at the moment? I know anyway that modules to the value of 20 credits are compulsory in Joint Honours, so you're left then with two 5 credit options to pick.

Not that im one of those people, but do you realise in real universities lectures are more like an open forum or seminar? As opposed to a bunch of people in a room hastily scribbling notes that they already have in their text books. I think the way lectures are conducted in UCC are amateurish and pointless. Its more like a school than a university.

Carolus Magnus

I can appreciate a bit of to and fro between the lecturer and the student, provided it's either a genuine question or actually anything other than an extended exercise in bull**** and sycophancy by one party. The stuff that some of them come out with is infamous and just holds up everyone else from doing what they came there to do; to listen to the lecturers.

There's micro-teaching for actual proper Socratic method, debate and the like, at least in the history department, and the hint that's given is that that is the more appropriate outlet for that sort of thing. What's more, the most cringe-worthy thing you could hear off a mature student is 'in my experience'. As I heard about one Philosophy lecturer (from a different University) when he was confronted by the exact same line, he managed to quickly get "Which doesn't matter ..." in there. That shut them up to be sure.

I just don't get it. If they felt their experience was so vital that they had to inveigh at that point in the lecture against a professor in the field, then you have to wonder what the point was in turning up. They surely must have reckoned when signing up for the gig that they're there to learn from people who know more than they do.

I take a different view of the lectures themselves, I'm not one for the scribbling down of notes like mad either (and vindication comes in the lack of need for notes I felt when preparing for exams this year), I'm there to look for pointers and such. So that I can suss out what exactly it is I need to read, or might need to take a look at. That's the most essential bit of information, and after that I just sit back and enjoy the thing. Some lectures (and lecturers) can be genuinely interesting. They're ultimately of limited value of course, but I don't really see how the system can be indicted. U.C.C. is surely no exception to any norm?

Ekancone

Carolus Magnus wrote:

I can appreciate a bit of to and fro between the lecturer and the student, provided it's either a genuine question or actually anything other than an extended exercise in bull**** and sycophancy by one party. The stuff that some of them come out with is infamous and just holds up everyone else from doing what they came there to do; to listen to the lecturers.

There's micro-teaching for actual proper Socratic method, debate and the like, at least in the history department, and the hint that's given is that that is the more appropriate outlet for that sort of thing. What's more, the most cringe-worthy thing you could hear off a mature student is 'in my experience'. As I heard about one Philosophy lecturer (from a different University) when he was confronted by the exact same line, he managed to quickly get "Which doesn't matter ..." in there. That shut them up to be sure.

I just don't get it. If they felt their experience was so vital that they had to inveigh at that point in the lecture against a professor in the field, then you have to wonder what the point was in turning up. They surely must have reckoned when signing up for the gig that they're there to learn from people who know more than they do.

I take a different view of the lectures themselves, I'm not one for the scribbling down of notes like mad either (and vindication comes in the lack of need for notes I felt when preparing for exams this year), I'm there to look for pointers and such. So that I can suss out what exactly it is I need to read, or might need to take a look at. That's the most essential bit of information, and after that I just sit back and enjoy the thing. Some lectures (and lecturers) can be genuinely interesting. They're ultimately of limited value of course, but I don't really see how the system can be indicted. U.C.C. is surely no exception to any norm?

Yeah i completely agree there, it is pointless when some old fart starts going on about some anecdote of his. But sometimes i have a genuine question and when i ask it i get chorus of 'tuts' coming from the back row. The vast majority of people going to UCC seem to think that they are there just to shut up and listen, and that every theory put forward is concrete and unquestionable. Also, the lecturer is viewed as some kind of demi-god, whose judgement should never be called into question. This kind of culture irritates me.

Carolus Magnus

But sometimes i have a genuine question and when i ask it i get chorus of 'tuts' coming from the back row.

That's just not on. Gosh, I'd never be against someone raising a genuine question and the behaviour of that lot is just unacceptable. I would imagine it varies a bit. In some places you get an almost churlish, school-house atmosphere like that, and in others there's a bunch down the front row who take it upon themselves to engage in the most downright cringeworthy sycophancy imaginable. I got more of the latter than the former, certainly.

There was nothing more excruciating this year, than when a certain gaggle of women, with presumably feminist tendencies (that congregated mysteriously across a few of my subjects), liked to ooh, aah and belly laugh whenever a lecturer covered material from a bygone age that was anti-feminist. A collection of sneering harpies so they were, all scribbling this down furiously, and thinking themselves so superior. Gosh, people in the old days, how pea-brained they were! That sort of thing got right on my tits. Then there were the ones who thought they were so very clever and that they'd caught the lecturer out. They hadn't of course, and the courteous dressing down they got communicated that much loud and clear.

I agree with you though. Certain lecturers just will not brook dissent of any kind, and the vast majority of people are engaging in a transcription exercise that they think is a form of learning, when it's nothing of the sort. Definitely more of the tutorial style of learning could be provided, but well there's things that mitigate against it. Like the fact that in the tutorials that are run, the silent transcribing majority don't get the purpose of them and thus eh, make the tutorials useless. It was me, another fella my age, and (hey hey) a mature student this year that spoke up in tutorials of about 15 people. In another batch, just me. That and the humanities haven't been getting great funding out of UCC for some time now.

Orizio

There's nothing more disheartening than to have gotten up early to get in for the 9am lecture, only for Geoff not to be there, and the bugger to think nothing of walking in 20 minutes late, and maybe having a quick scan of the Irish Times and his bank statements too before he starts in to the lecture >_>

Is this Geoff the Stalinist we are talking about or who?;)

Any of the history modules jumping off the page for you at the moment? I know anyway that modules to the value of 20 credits are compulsory in Joint Honours, so you're left then with two 5 credit options to pick.

Ah yes, I should probably check out next years modules.TBH I wanted to continue with my Cold War history but that seems to be impossible.Modern European history tends to be my favourite subject, but it doesn't really seem to be that well represented in History next year. Irish history tends to leave me cold, as does a lot of the dark/middle ages stuff.:(

Carolus Magnus

Is this Geoff the Stalinist we are talking about or who?

The very man. You know, he actually participated in an online seminar of Soviet-Era historians about Barbarossa that descended in to what could be put mildly as a flame war. Christ, the antipathy amongst some of them was seething. I must find the link. 'Twere gas when I read it first. Felt sorry for him too, he was a bit outnumbered!

He's on the record as saying that he always abhorred Stalin's methods, and even in his radical communist phase back in the 1960s/70s, opposed totalitarianism. However, as a historian, he is compelled to tell the truth, warts and all, as he sees it. Mind you, I started to get a little unnerved by his eh, 'devotion' as you could call it

As for the stuff on the cold war, there is definitely a US Foreign policy option. It's mostly about post 1968 American conceptions of themselves and their country though. Sounds a little flakey, and too focused on Reaganauts and social history for my liking. Mike Cosgrave is running an interesting module about War, State and Society since 1450. Machiavelli, standing armies, weapons technology and such. You can tell he used to be a wargamer >_>

HI2031 is also interesting. No end of year exam in it as far as I know, and involves a trip to Rome. Focuses on links during the middle ages between Ireland and Rome. Though, mind you, that sounds like your worst nightmare.

Edit - And dare we mention it of course, but Geoff does twentieth century Russian history in second year. You know the drill. Your Leaving Cert. textbook from Lenin onward. And with Geoff never changing the exam papers. Hoho.

Ekancone

Carolus Magnus wrote:

The very man. You know, he actually participated in an online seminar of Soviet-Era historians about Barbarossa that descended in to what could be put mildly as a flame war. Christ, the antipathy amongst some of them was seething. I must find the link. 'Twere gas when I read it first. Felt sorry for him too, he was a bit outnumbered!

He's on the record as saying that he always abhorred Stalin's methods, and even in his radical communist phase back in the 1960s/70s, opposed totalitarianism. However, as a historian, he is compelled to tell the truth, warts and all, as he sees it. Mind you, I started to get a little unnerved by his eh, 'devotion' as you could call it

As for the stuff on the cold war, there is definitely a US Foreign policy option. It's mostly about post 1968 American conceptions of themselves and their country though. Sounds a little flakey, and too focused on Reaganauts and social history for my liking. Mike Cosgrave is running an interesting module about War, State and Society since 1450. Machiavelli, standing armies, weapons technology and such. You can tell he used to be a wargamer >_>

HI2031 is also interesting. No end of year exam in it as far as I know, and involves a trip to Rome. Focuses on links during the middle ages between Ireland and Rome. Though, mind you, that sounds like your worst nightmare.

Edit - And dare we mention it of course, but Geoff does twentieth century Russian history in second year. You know the drill. Your Leaving Cert. textbook from Lenin onward. And with Geoff never changing the exam papers. Hoho.

Great lecturer.

Carolus Magnus

So I've heard. He comes highly recommended from several people I know, and seeing as the stuff he lectures in seems very interesting he was a shoe-in for one of my options.

By the way Orizio, had a read of that sheet again, and it says that you can expect to register a week after the repeat results appear (not a week after the rest of us.) Going by that reading of it, that would mean you'd be registering at the start of the first week (around the 25th) Seems awfully late. There should be no problems though.

Second Year Timetables are after going up too. Seems like good news regarding 9am starts for history at least (and only one 9am start for Politics that I can see.)

http://www.ucc.ie/en/CollegesandDepartments/ArtsCelticStudiesandSocialSciences/InformationforCurrentStudents/Timetables/DocumentFile,20334,en.pdf

And the first week is even scantier this year for me. All the introductory lectures on a Tuesday
http://www.ucc.ie/en/CollegesandDepartments/ArtsCelticStudiesandSocialSciences/InformationforCurrentStudents/Timetables/DocumentFile,40591,en.pdf

And this might be of interest to you Orizio. There are two America based options. And there is a meatier foreign policy one amongst the two (HI2030), although it seems to dwell on historiography in a way that might get tedious.

http://www.ucc.ie/academic/history/pages/Undergraduate/Second+Arts+Options

Ekancone

Any idea where the 3rd year timetables are?

Carolus Magnus

There you go:

http://www.ucc.ie/en/CollegesandDepartments/ArtsCelticStudiesandSocialSciences/InformationforCurrentStudents/Timetables/DocumentFile,40592,en.pdf
http://www.ucc.ie/en/CollegesandDepartments/ArtsCelticStudiesandSocialSciences/InformationforCurrentStudents/Timetables/DocumentFile,20335,en.pdf

Found them on this page: http://www.ucc.ie/en/CollegesandDepartments/ArtsCelticStudiesandSocialSciences/InformationforCurrentStudents/Timetables/, only found out about it when I got an e-mail off of somebody in Student Records yesterday.

Orizio

Carolus Magnus wrote:

So I've heard. He comes highly recommended from several people I know, and seeing as the stuff he lectures in seems very interesting he was a shoe-in for one of my options.

By the way Orizio, had a read of that sheet again, and it says that you can expect to register a week after the repeat results appear (not a week after the rest of us.) Going by that reading of it, that would mean you'd be registering at the start of the first week (around the 25th) Seems awfully late. There should be no problems though.

Second Year Timetables are after going up too. Seems like good news regarding 9am starts for history at least (and only one 9am start for Politics that I can see.)

http://www.ucc.ie/en/CollegesandDepartments/ArtsCelticStudiesandSocialSciences/InformationforCurrentStudents/Timetables/DocumentFile,20334,en.pdf

And the first week is even scantier this year for me. All the introductory lectures on a Tuesday
http://www.ucc.ie/en/CollegesandDepartments/ArtsCelticStudiesandSocialSciences/InformationforCurrentStudents/Timetables/DocumentFile,40591,en.pdf

And this might be of interest to you Orizio. There are two America based options. And there is a meatier foreign policy one amongst the two (HI2030), although it seems to dwell on historiography in a way that might get tedious.

http://www.ucc.ie/academic/history/pages/Undergraduate/Second+Arts+Options

Aren't we starting again on the 24th? Seems insane frankly. Might have to make some phonecalls after I get my result to see whats happening.

Other then that, HI2007, HI2029, HI2030 and HI2032 are the ones that really stand out, although the communist eras in both China and Russia could be interesting. The US Foreign Policy class with Dave Ryan is the only must tbh. Why do we have choices on the Balkans and nothing on something more relevant to today like Islam's history?

Carolus Magnus

I guess the closest we got to that was the East/West module last year. And that was one lecture out of twenty-one at that (and I guess the crusades as well, and the option you could have taken about Pilgrims and Crusaders.) The Balkans might touch on the problem. A lot of the tension in the region came from the fact that due to the history of Ottoman occupation, there was a sizeable Muslim minority. Sounds like a bit of a bore otherwise though.

HI2029 and HI2007 are my two options anyway I've decided. HI2029 looks like it could be pretty good as Damian Bracken is fairly interesting and as a big area of interest for me is Catholic Church hierarchy and such. HI2031 can be done again as HI3111 in third year, so I thought I might leave it open as something to consider for then. I wouldn't be adverse to a trip to Rome. And entirely assessed by coursework too.

Orizio

No I certainly can't register yet. Simply get the same message I was getting before I got my repeat result on Tuesday.

So what exactly am I supposed to do for next week? Assuming I can't register until next tuesday, is there any point in me going into college next week?

Carolus Magnus

Well SIT registration is currently down until tomorrow morning due to demand, so it says on the site: http://www.ucc.ie/en/sit/Text,41455,en.html so don't panic yet.

If your registration can't go through until next week, I'd still turn up to the introductory lectures, because your registration will eventually be sorted out, and the information in them is given out only once. You should have only 2 anyway.

You passed though, I presume?

Orizio

Ah alright, so even if I did get to register before next monday I would still have only two introductory lectures in History and Politics anyway?

Thats fine then.

Fabio

Having read some of the posts up here I thought I'd nip in too!

I'm majoring in history too going into second year and, as I am fiercely interested in modern Russian history, the first module that I picked for history was Geoff Roberts one!

I did David Ryan's course last year and I enjoyed that so I've picked his module too - he's an entertaining lecturer I think and to be honest, I never really regretted having to get in at 9am on Friday mornings for his lectures.

That must be a good thing!

Carolus Magnus

Cool, another person who's majoring in History. This research project looks like being the toughest part of it all, to be honest. Haven't an idea of what I plan on doing for it specifically, but my area of interest would be in the medieval and church end of things. Don't know how we go about getting supervision either. It'll all come together. Hopefully.

Orizio

So apparently I can register what progremme I want to do, but not the module/subjects. :rolleyes:

I get this message...

No subjects are currently loaded for registration, either you have completed your registration or no qualification registration has taken place.

Which I don't quite get.

Other then that, I've decided to do HI2030 (Historiography and US Foreign Policy) and HI2032 (Force and Statcraft) because they seem to chime in some way to what I did last year (Cold War) and relate to what I hope to do in politics(Violence and War:A Philosophical Analysis, Political Theory of the State and Civil Society).

Anybody els doing scond year Politics?I have two different times, dates and locations for the introductory lectures.

roberta c

can you register?! i havent heard a thing about it yet, they wont let me on ucc direct..
i got a letter about politics and that said the introduction is tmrw at 3 in the Pharmacy building, so im guessing thats it!

Orizio

I am in the process of registering right now Roberta.

The UCC website has a different time for the introduction. Apparently its at Boole 4 on Monday the 25th at 3 p.m.

Finally registered.

roberta c

you mean yesterday?! balls..
where did you see that on it?