English: Ch Ch Changes!

cson

Paper one, easy enough I thought. Heres hoping for paper two to be the same!

Sea Devils

Yeah how did it go?

nedward

It's over, ya.

StephenC_IRL

yeah i thought it was alright

Nehpets

P2 was better than P1
Yay Plath

Your Man

thought paper 2 was grand, everything i wanted came up, too bad i messed up my essay big time...

toxick

messed up with the essay... paper 2 is easy... go on frost

StephenC_IRL

did people write more than 7 pages total on paper 2 ??

Nehpets

Well obviously

JC 2K3

I know I said I wouldn't return here til Saturday, but quick comment:

Paper 1:
Answered Question A on Text 3, the pictures. It was mediocre. I wasn't really "warmed up" I guess.
Answered Question B on Text 2, the radio presentation. I thought I did it very well.
The Essay: Did no. 7. I managed to change a pre prepared essay to get Natural Disasters to fit in with it. It kicked ass.

Paper 2:
Macbeth: Easy question!!!(Lady Macbeth! Who'd have thought it!) I did very well here! Funnily enough the predictions were ALL wrong for this question.
Comparitive: Did Cultural Context. This was my weakest question. Didn't write enough and it was a bit sloppy.
Unseen Poetry: So easy! I kicked ass here.
Pre Prepared Poetry: Plath came up, as predicted. Wrote a pretty good essay I thought. Perhaps was a little sloppy in places.

All in all I'm very happy with how it went. I'm sure I've secured my B.

Lucas10101

StephenC_IRL wrote:

did people write more than 7 pages total on paper 2 ??

On Paper one I did 5 page essay, spent 3 pages on the B Part on Student Council and 6 Pages on the three part queson on the images.

On Paper two, I did 4 Pages on Plath, 6 Pages on Comparative, 3 Pages on MacBeth and 2 Pages on Unseen Poem.

I think I wrote too much although the exam went well for me. My essay I think was over the top, the basic plot was:

A father sexually abuses his daughter, the mother catches the father, he gets jailed, the new son that was born in now 12 and wants to meet his father and that.....it's worse than it sounds, but I think the portrayal of the issue was dealt with satisfactorily.

JC 2K3

StephenC_IRL wrote:

did people write more than 7 pages total on paper 2 ??

Of course....

Sure you should have written at least 3 pages each for the Single Text, Comparitive and Pre-prepared Poetry, and around one page for the Unseen Poetry - that's a minimum of 10 pages.....

JC 2K3

Lucas10101 wrote:

On Paper one I did 5 page essay, spent 3 pages on the B Part on Student Council and 6 Pages on the three part queson on the images.

:eek:

I did less than 3...

It's only worth 50 marks though, and you did a page more than for your essay, which is worth 100 marks....

Nehpets

Yeah the unseen poetry was pretty good. I forgot to conclude my answer unfortunately Yeah I didn't do Macbeth for the single text (did it for comparatives) and the questions were simple! I was tempted to do them for my single!

Anyway, maths now,, integration. I keep forgetting C! Also can't remember the damn area questions.

Oh JC, you'll probbaly know this, for proving the product and quoitent rule do we HAVE to use first principles?

mathew

Was very happy with the papers overall..
Did Question A from the First Text
Question B from the third text
Essay number 4 on the Modern Shopping centre.

Think I did 8 pages in total!

For paper 2
Macbeth - Relationships
General Vision, question 2
Unseen Question 2
John Montague
12 pages in total

Heres hoping the rest of the papers will be as nice!

justbringit89

Unseen Was pure muck i thought !!!


Out of interest For question B on The Radio Thing !! Were you supposed to write it in ''I'' or ''teens are...''

Zapp Brannigan

People get way too fussed about the amount they write.
I got an A1 last year and for P2 I wrote like 6/7 pages. (Wrote alot more in P1 cos I really enjoy essay writing) It's quality not quantity that matters.

Nehpets

Also depends on how big people write..

colm-ccfc84

My view: Paper 1 was very good. I did the change the world talk and argued about the evilness of religion (as I had planned). When I did this essay in class i got 96% and I wrote the same essay with a different opening paragraph and a few ladies and gentlemen thrown in too.

Paper 2: Eliot, thanfully. Felt I did an excellent answer. Macbeth: blended material from both my Macbeth and Lady Macbeth essays and tried to evaluate the realtionship at different junctures.
The cultural context was annoying, the question was restrictive (second quest) only managaned a 4 page answer.
Unseen poem, well wrote a page and a half hard to call that.
Overall: content.

ninebeanrows

How important is it to stick to the title for the composition! I went abit crazy and it may have cost me lots of marks.

In the Essay, write a serious article for a magazine title "The Modern Shopping Centre" i used the shopping centre as a metaphor for Africa and Iraq and the 1st worlds pillaging of their resources!!? Should that be acceptable?

Also i wrote far too little for my letter re Smoking, 1 1/3 page.

Boards off all day! No bickering on here so disappointed!

Maths tomorrow! oh dear! De Moivres better come up now seen as i have learnt it and please no quotient or product rule proofs!

Patricide

Paper was allright, tomorros what im dreading. Wish i hadnt repeated 5th year

JC 2K3

Nehpets wrote:

Anyway, maths now,, integration. I keep forgetting C! Also can't remember the damn area questions.

There's nothing new to learn though.

Area beneath the curve from x=a to x=b is the integral of the curve with the limits a and b.

Draw diagrams and shade in what area integrating a curve will get you if there are multiple curves.

Nehpets wrote:

Oh JC, you'll probbaly know this, for proving the product and quoitent rule do we HAVE to use first principles?

As in, so you can use the kickass natural log proofs?:
y = uv
ln(y) = ln(uv)
ln(y) = ln(u) + ln(v)
(1/y)(dy/dx) = (1/u)(du/dx) + (1/v)(dv/dx)
dy/dx = (y/u)(du/dx) + (y/v)(dv/dx)
but y = uv
dy/dx = (uv/u)(du/dx) + (uv/v)(dv/dx)
dy/dx = (v)(du/dx) + (u)(dv/dx)

As far as I know, you can. But I think they often say "prove from first principles", so if they say that there's no way around it.

Still, it's not hard, just remember the whole ...u(x).v(x+h) - u(x).v(x+h)... part and you're grand.

Nehpets

"Also i wrote far too little for my letter re Smoking, 1 1/3 page."

That was a question B, that much seems acceptable unless your writing is massive

colm-ccfc84

Weathercheck wrote:

How important is it to stick to the title for the composition! I went abit crazy and it may have cost me lots of marks.

In the Essay, write a serious article for a magazine title "The Modern Shopping Centre" i used the shopping centre as a metaphor for Africa and Iraq and the 1st worlds pillaging of their resources!!? Should that be acceptable?

Also i wrote far too little for my letter re Smoking, 1 1/3 page.

Boards off all day! No bickering on here so disappointed!

Maths tomorrow! oh dear! De Moivres better come up now seen as i have learnt it and please no quotient or product rule proofs!

Sticking to the point is crucial. You can only equal your score from this area in each of the others ie if you get 26 for P you cannot get higher than that in C or L. I am not too sure if you would get away with it. I know the interprtation is liberal so you could be ok.

justbringit89

Lads I have a mate who done Plath and wrote ''Fish'' one of bishops poems for plath . poor fella !!! he also wrote the persons address on the smoking ban letter instead of his own

JC 2K3

Weathercheck wrote:

please no quotient or product rule proofs!

See my post above

Honestly, just remember ...v(x).u(x+h) - v(x).u(x+h)... for both those proofs. It's the only tricky part there is to them.

Nehpets

JC 2K3 wrote:

There's nothing new to learn though.

Area beneath the curve from x=a to x=b is the integral of the curve with the limits a and b.

Draw diagrams and shade in what area integrating a curve will get you if there are multiple curves.


As in, so you can use the kickass natural log proofs?:
y = uv
ln(y) = ln(uv)
ln(y) = ln(u) + ln(v)
(1/y)(dy/dx) = (1/u)(du/dx) + (1/v)(dv/dx)
dy/dx = (y/u)(du/dx) + (y/v)(dv/dx)
but y = uv
dy/dx = (uv/u)(du/dx) + (uv/v)(dv/dx)
dy/dx = (v)(du/dx) + (u)(dv/dx)

As far as I know, you can. But I think they often say "prove from first principles", so if they say that there's no way around it.

Still, it's not hard, just remember the whole ...u(x).v(x+h) - u(x).v(x+h)... part and you're grand.

Yeah that's the way I know, logs + implicit differentiation ftw Yeah I'll look over that in the morning.

ninebeanrows

colm-ccfc84 wrote:

Sticking to the point is crucial. You can only equal your score from this area in each of the others ie if you get 26 for P you cannot get higher than that in C or L. I am not too sure if you would get away with it. I know the interprtation is liberal so you could be ok.

I knew that at the time and considered it to be more the case for other questions apart from the composition! Anyway here's hoping, i will find out in due course! Might have to check it over after August to see exactly what happened!

Paper 2 was grand although my Comparative Answer was abit summarisy for want of a better word.

ZorbaTehZ

Very nice paper one. Did text 1, really interesting piece found it easy to write about. Did the letter for question B, again quite nice.
Essay was great. So many options on the argumentative/persuasive.

Paper 2, satisfactory. Really happy Frost came up, Macbeth was piece-o-piss tbh, comparative was rather average though, did that "investigate the locations on a trip" and messed up part II. Unseen I disliked a lot, just couldn't get into it. Wasn't much poetic devices to talk about either.

colm-ccfc84

justbringit89 wrote:

Lads I have a mate who done Plath and wrote ''Fish'' one of bishops poems for plath . poor fella !!! he also wrote the persons address on the smoking ban letter instead of his own

Nasty. But he didn't need to write any address, for an informal you can simply put: Dear X. A person in my class answered on viewpoint even though we never studied it, what a tit!

Nehpets

Phew! Thanks colm

Nehpets

justbringit89 wrote:

Lads I have a mate who done Plath and wrote ''Fish'' one of bishops poems for plath . poor fella !!! he also wrote the persons address on the smoking ban letter instead of his own

I didn't address mine.. were we meant to?

cson

Kingship did come up on Macbeth more or less > "Use and abuse of power" I more or less did my kingship answer, my teacher said it was grand and so did the guy on the 606 radio show

colm-ccfc84

I didn't either, it is informal. I was looking over notes this morning and the person simply wrote 'Dear XX' I doubt there was a need.

justbringit89

i presume your ment to !! its ''Letter'' After all !! it is essential

Emu McEmuerson

for my compositional essay i did the Modern Shopping Centre yolkie (which everyone seems to be doing)

..opened with "If i was to ask you to describe your perfect shopping centre, one to satisfy all your needs and desires what would you describe?" (or something to that affect..

made it really colloquial.. then after describing this real weird 21st century shopping centre with moving floors, chrome walls and all that crap i said -

"how many shopping centres, each bigger then the last one will it take for us to realise that the most perfect one is right infront of us -

The Computor - The Modern Shopping Centre"


...then waffled on for a while yada yada... i thought it was kinda an obvious essay but when i told people about it after they seemed suprised.

too obvious, or frankly, ****E? x

ninebeanrows

The log proof looks sweet! So easy..... but no doubt it will say from first principles. Good night folks and good luck tomorrow

colm-ccfc84

justbringit89 wrote:

i presume your ment to !! its ''Letter'' After all !! it is essential

You don't have to if it is informal, which it was. You could if you wanted to.

Enemy Of Fate

Well overall I thought that was quite a decent exam.First part of paper one was ****.Did the part A on changing London, and the part B on the smoking ban letter.I mean a ****ing letter!!Complete bull****.Second part was easy enough.Wrote a decent essay on why the past shouldn't be glorified.Just wrote about death and war for 3 pages, so its all good.

Paper 2 was much better.Got exactly what I wanted with Plath and Cultural Context, although my Macbeth answer wasn't great (i'd only prepared Kingship, and so all I really wrote was 3 paragraphs on regal power, and then 2 small paragraphs on supernatural power and Lady M's power over M).Also what was up with the unseen poetry?It was complete ****.I only got 3 **** paragraphs on it.I'll be lucky to get half the marks for it.

Still though overall, i'm certain I got a C, pretty sure I got a C1, and if i'm lucky I may even get a B.Heres hoping anyways.

justbringit89

had an short story prepared on ''shopping with mother'' linked it into the war picture !! sayin that going shopping with mother was like going to war

JC 2K3

ZorbaTehZ wrote:

Unseen I disliked a lot, just couldn't get into it. Wasn't much poetic devices to talk about either.

I liked it. Some points I got were:
-Said a lot in few words.
-Bright, colourful register.
-Contrast between the ordinary "cheap seats" in the first line, and the grandoise "Symphany Hall" in the second.
-This contrast is symbolic as it represents the ordinary people in the audience and the "elite" on stage.
-Ultimately sad, since the woman playing the viola doesn't notice him and probably never will, meaning she is probably the girl he is in love with but shall never get.

colm-ccfc84

I went on about how the whole poem appeared allegorical and it must have a more profound, complex meaning.

Emu McEmuerson

i couldnt stop smiling when i read the poem!! thought it was the sweatest thing ever..

i completly milked it though. had - "my response as a reader blah blah blah but my response as a violinist is blah blah blah"


..i put it ALOT better then that, but i was pretty damn pleased with my answer :D:D

brickno1

i thought paper one was a nice paper did text 1 for question A adn found it pretty interesting and the smoking ban for quesion b.....pretty much like everyone else...

unfortunately paper 2 was not such a success as i banked on kavanagh or yeats tbh but i could still go back to my mock answer on frost, Macbeth i just did kingship and other bits and bobs...comparative i was hopin for theme so i was unfortunate there but i managed to do an average cultural context, onli 4 pages though. the unseen i didn't write much but seen as it onli 20 marks i din't think we had to...

Nehpets

I read it completely differently.

Did the viola player not play hard so the sound would reach those cheap seats in the back?

JC 2K3

Given more time, I could have written much more on it. There was a lot of symbolism hidden in it I thought.

colm-ccfc84

Unseen poetry will give a wide array of repsonses!

JC 2K3

Emu McEmuerson wrote:

i couldnt stop smiling when i read the poem!! thought it was the sweatest thing ever..

i completly milked it though. had - "my response as a reader blah blah blah but my response as a violinist is blah blah blah"


..i put it ALOT better then that, but i was pretty damn pleased with my answer :D:D

How does being a violinist affect your interpretation of that poem?

I felt her playing the viola was merely symbolic of her radiating her "eliteness" on the ordinary people.

ZorbaTehZ

Nehpets wrote:

I read it completely differently.

Did the viola player not play hard so the sound would reach those cheap seats in the back?

Mid-way through the question (one A4 written, starting to waffle) then I realised that repetition of cheap seats and I was like YES, something else to talk about. Got another about half page out of that

JC 2K3

colm-ccfc84 wrote:

Unseen poetry will give a wide array of repsonses!

Yup.

What I love about it is you just read it and write what hits you instantly about it. And unless it's completely off the wall, you won't lose marks as long as you explain why you thought so.

Anyway, I'm off to bed.

nn.

Emu McEmuerson

nah, the description of the instruments tuning up, the flickering of pages and all that.. i said that the way the poet described yada yada, brought back personal memories of my own from perofming in a concert hall since the question was write a personal response...

..any clearer?