CSS map of HRTA

Irish Trinity

Well since i'm board of just reading posts and not having any sort of contribution to airsoft i'm going to try and make a H.R.T.A map i have the programme and all but i just need to learn how to use it and i think i could even gte a skin so you can soot bb's instead of bullets, so what do you think?

Would i have to ask Paul for permission

And if i was doing it i would need a couple pictures of HRTA

kdouglas

dont think paul would mind tbh, you planning on mapping just the inside or the outside around by the tanker etc... as well?

Irish Trinity

i suppose i could try both but i have o idea what the outside looks like so i would really need pictures

ED E

What do you have? Valve Hammer Editor V?
I have that but had problems retreiving the HL2 Textures.
Anyway, loads of guides online.

I'm willing to help if possble (loads of free time in summer).
Can I beta test?

liamo333

Thats where google earth comes in:D

Irish Trinity

Lethal_Bullet wrote:

What do you have? Valve Hammer Editor V?
I have that but had problems retreiving the HL2 Textures.
Anyway, loads of guides online.

I'm willing to help if possble (loads of free time in summer).
Can I beta test?

i use Source SDK that would be great if you could help or even teach me a thing or two

ED E

I only got to mess around with the hl textures as i couldn't get the HL2s so never really did much.

There is a forum for mapping....[url]www.iwannamap.com:D[/url]

I thought SDK was for making mods...hmmm...

liamo333

Heres what the outdoor area looks like http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=53.47941,-6.2618018&z=18&hl=en&t=h

Unfortunatly it aint very good quality.

Irish Trinity

LMAO!! that was so pointless i had to laugh

liamo333

LOL very true.

kdouglas

im sure someone with semi-decent drawing abilities can draw a map, unfortunately that's not me

thing is though, by the time you finish building a map, there'll probably be a bunch of new paths and such

CrazyRabbit

Well here is a very rough layout of the outside area.

MS PAINT FTW!

ASI Casper

LMAO!

It's not often I actually laugh out loud, but 'my corpse' did it!!!

How much of the outside area is actually in play?

kdouglas

CrazyRabbit wrote:

Well here is a very rough layout of the outside area.

MS PAINT FTW!

see? told you someone would post an image

although i think the "hidden entrance" should be a bit further back up the lane and the scrub area should be bigger, but other than that it's pretty accurate (for an mspaint drawing )

CrazyRabbit

ASI Casper wrote:

LMAO!

It's not often I actually laugh out loud, but 'my corpse' did it!!!

How much of the outside area is actually in play?

Well the ploughed area is off-limits as the potatoes are growing at the moment. The fenced area is useable so long as the owner is not working there.

There is another field to the left of the parking lot that we can normally use. But recently there is 2 horses and a young foul there that we cant disturb.

It's a big enough area for 20-35 players.

Oh, and there are 2 snipers in the drawing as well. Bet you can't spot them though. They're pretty good.

Irish Trinity

damn this is going to be detailed..... rabbit could ya possibly get a couple proper picks? but thanks for the MS paint pic at least i have a rough idea of where everything is:p

o1s1n

*Oisin's artistic rendition of HRTA*

liamo333

Hahahaha!!!

The Master

Just a note on where the hidden enterence is.
There's actually around 3 different ways in there along ambush alley.
Depending on how brave you're feeling they range from hard to very hard to the painfull thorns and brambles way in.

Irish Trinity

o1s1n wrote:

*Oisin's artistic rendition of HRTA*

This is going in the funny history books! that is priceless:D

ED E

LOL...
Ok, down to the CSS side of things.

Hossies or bomb?
Idea
CT trucks blocking road at entrance to HRTA.
CT spawn = top left
T spawn = Back of CQB.

Most of the textures and items (silos, boxes) are already made so thats good.

Q: night or day?

Irish Trinity

Lethal_Bullet wrote:

LOL...
Ok, down to the CSS side of things.

Hossies or bomb?
Idea
CT trucks blocking road at entrance to HRTA.
CT spawn = top left
T spawn = Back of CQB.

Most of the textures and items (silos, boxes) are already made so thats good.

Q: night or day?

Lets go with hostages and yeah i like the spawn idea and lets do day i hats night i type more tomorrow i'm t tired to think now

kdouglas

if you make the map is it hard to change it between bomb/hostage (or make one for each), the tanker would make a good bombsite for one of them

similarly with night/day? is it hard to change between, that's really just lighting effects so im guessing it shouldn't be too difficult to change between each one

i've never built a map for source, did quake before, but as far as i remember, it wasn't too hard to change the overall lighting

Voodoomelon

I have hundreds of hours put into a CS:Source map of DKIT college, and I'd like to help if I could, but i've never been to HRTA still. I might take a trip down this weekend to scope it out.

Here are a few sample pictures of my map, I like to think it's accurate to a couple of inches, I took nearly 200 pictures of the college.









It's actually a lot further along now than you can see in the photos, I stopped in about October because of my thesis.

Voodoomelon

kdouglas wrote:

if you make the map is it hard to change it between bomb/hostage (or make one for each), the tanker would make a good bombsite for one of them

similarly with night/day? is it hard to change between, that's really just lighting effects so im guessing it shouldn't be too difficult to change between each one

i've never built a map for source, did quake before, but as far as i remember, it wasn't too hard to change the overall lighting

It's simple to change between bomb and hostage, maybe about 30 minutes work tops. As for night and day, it may take a bit longer to get all the light sources looking correct.

Spitfire666

Voodoomelon wrote:

I have hundreds of hours put into a CS:Source map of DKIT college, and I'd like to help if I could, but i've never been to HRTA still. I might take a trip down this weekend to scope it out.

Here are a few sample pictures of my map, I like to think it's accurate to a couple of inches, I took nearly 200 pictures of the college.









It's actually a lot further along now than you can see in the photos, I stopped in about October because of my thesis.

Id love to have the time/patience/skill/programs to do that. looks very good.

whupass

that's brilliant!!

CrazyRabbit

o1s1n wrote:

*Oisin's artistic rendition of HRTA*

Hey, how did you manage to get satelite imagery of me/HRTA at 12:00 on saturday?

Seriously though, that's the funniest thing I've seen in a while.

Oh, and Voodoomelon, that CS map looks amazing. Not as good as my MS Paint map of HRTA, but amazing none-the-less.

Irish Trinity

that map is amazing! i officially put you as the "map maker" seriously that map looks great and ya gotta teach me and lethal how to do it

ED E

Voodoo is the man for the job!:D
What program did you use to make that...mate of mine was gonna make our school for CSS but never got aound to it.

Bomb/Hossie have to beseperate copies of the map eg: de_hrta_b or de_hrta_h say. The same for lighting.

Voodoo, could we do it with few light sources for night then add more for day. You need to teach me how to properly set up hammer/ which ever program we use (all need to use the same i think!). Can you easily islate sinle sprite files? Say i could make different things then send them to trin to add them in.

This will take awhile...


Anyone going this weekend take pics of everything for voodoo please:D

whupass

hey leathal, good luck in the jc!!

Voodoomelon

Lethal_Bullet wrote:

Voodoo is the man for the job!:D
What program did you use to make that...mate of mine was gonna make our school for CSS but never got aound to it.

Bomb/Hossie have to beseperate copies of the map eg: de_hrta_b or de_hrta_h say. The same for lighting.

Voodoo, could we do it with few light sources for night then add more for day. You need to teach me how to properly set up hammer/ which ever program we use (all need to use the same i think!). Can you easily islate sinle sprite files? Say i could make different things then send them to trin to add them in.

This will take awhile...


Anyone going this weekend take pics of everything for voodoo please:D

I used the Hammer editor. It can be tricky to setup but the instructions provided the first time you run the program are very clear. And it really isn't something you can teach, you just have to go at it yourself and learn as you go along, I by no means am an expert at it but if you encounter a problem then there are shed loads of online tutorials for building a basic room, inserting furniture, light sources, physics objects etc.

You can insert light sources and then simply turn them on and off for night or day.

Also in regard to doing work on different machines, you can just save the project file and send it to one another. Work can simply be then cut and paste.

I would love to start editing my map again but unfortunately its absolutely massive at the moment and i've done tens of hours of work without compiling it and its riddled with errors. So I have to trapse through all that work to find all the errors.

At the moment the map file is 14.5MB, and its only about half done. It will certainly be the biggest map I have ever played, about 6 times bigger than your average map.

Irish Trinity

yeah i use hammer too its just in source SDK and i've got it all configured (which took about half an hour)

ED E

Got the latest hammer with SDK(had manually got prev version).

Lagging up like mad!

gonna work on some stuff.

ambro25

Ne'er mind CSS, I ain't got it or anything "Source" - we need a BF2 / BF2:SF one.

Or HRTA needs to sort out the layout to look like the "Hangar 04" Bf2 map (Über-BF2-CQB-craic).

ED E

whupass wrote:

hey leathal, good luck in the jc!!

You doing it aswell?
B1atch of a math Paper one...50 mins...5/6 all through equation...nasty.:eek:

o1s1n

Lethal_Bullet wrote:

You doing it aswell?
B1atch of a math Paper one...50 mins...5/6 all through equation...nasty.:eek:

My little sisters thought it was easy

ED E

Most if it was...I thought i was good at maths but Q6 a) and b) = ???? ?????

And 4 c i got but 60% of people didnt. Normally in a Distance speed time the diffence or total time is a whole number. They gave us 50mins...meaning 5/6 throughout a long equation. Scabby!

ambro25

Gawd, how I feel my age now

CrazyRabbit

Ignore the Junior Cert. It's not important anyway (I haven't seen a CV in years that included JC results on it).

So get back to creating the HRTA CSS map!!!!!

Stalfos

I like it.
Say it would be fun to run around shooting people. I'm better at css than airsoft too.

Irish Trinity

this does mean all of you need to buy it

we still need some more DETAILED pictures

CrazyRabbit

Irish Trinity wrote:

this does mean all of you need to buy it

we still need some more DETAILED pictures

I'll bring camera tommorrow and take a few thousands pics for you.

Well maybe a few dozen...

Irish Trinity

thanks i think i have the basics down on hammer so should get on it.:)

CrazyRabbit

Here are the pics I took. Hope they are helpful. If there are any areas that you need clarified, just ask. I can take more pics on wednesday if needed.

http://rapidshare.com/files/36236695/CSS_Map.rar

And to help, here is an updated MS Paint map of the area, including an entire shed that I somehow forgot about....



And Paul, the tanker is at the right angle!

Voodoomelon

Some great pictures there, combined with the map of the place it would be relatively easy to make a CS:S version of it. I don't think I have the time to do it myself, I could probably get a quick BETA done in about 2 days.

No point in different people doing it at the same time either.

ED E

Dowloading pics....17%...

Anyway..cant do it until tuesday but then its go my full attention...give me a few days to teach myself and then we'll see what we can do.

Trinity, PM me your steam name(actual account name) so i can add you Steam IMs arer faster than boards:)

75%....

Done...Yey..pretty cool...BOMB the truck?

Irish Trinity

this is wiggidy wiggidy wack what do i press to download:p and lethel pm sent

the only thing is who's gonna do it? i mean no point sharing between 3 people

ED E

Well, i dunno....you do a draft...send it to me, If i'm able to i'll tweak it, then get voodoo to check it and then post it up on my site(just made for this mapping purpose)(No linkies!) and we can get everyone to dowload it. Send it to a few servers and see if they want to use it(got my regular simiancage in mind.)


PM received, reply sent.

LB

Irish Trinity

new pm sent i made a mistake:o

Voodoomelon

Sounds good, i'd have no problem havin a wee look at it...