Dublin Meath Single Header

Nalced_irl

Ok, first i want to point out that i know im gonna get linched by some people for this. Secondly, i dont know how the Dublin County Board approached the GAA on this matter but im assuming it was a simple request. But now for the post...
I was reading about Dublin requesting from the GAA for the Dubs Meath game to be a single game and the Wicklow Louth game to be moved. I personally think we were well within our rights to request it, not demand it mind, but ask for it. But then i see in the papers as if the Dubs were being bigheaded and trying to deny Louth and Wicklow their day in Croker. Do people think it was bad of the Dubs to request this? Fact is that this game WILL sell out Croker easily. I know teams like to play in HQ but for Wicklow and Louth fans, would you prefer an empty Croker to a full smaller stadium? Im honestly not sure what id prefer between them and (no offence Louth) id love to see Wicklow go far this year which i think they are well capable of but i dont understand what i read about the Dubs being so bad on this matter. I could go into how Dublin make so much for the GAA ect but thats really beside the point. Dublin and Meath have large followings, especially when theyre against eachother so why was this request such a big deal? I must point out, i only read the article in tabloids who may have over-exadurated the whole thing but they are normally pro-Dublin as thats where most of their toilet paper gets sold Anyway, just wondering what others views on it is.

Blackjack

Given that it's quite early in the championship, I'd be surprised if it would be a full sell out. To be honest, all teams deserve their day in Croker, so it would be a shame if this was indeed true.

Bluetonic

Blackjack wrote:

Given that it's quite early in the championship, I'd be surprised if it would be a full sell out.

Ahem!

Croker set for sell-out

Croke Park has confirmed that next Sunday’s double bill in Croke Park will be a sell out. All tickets have issued and based on sales in the counties and by the Leinster Council, no returns are expected. In excess of 82,000 people are expected to be in attendance

http://www.hill16.ie/viewstoryhill16.asp?mainheading=Word+on+The+Hill&id=8384&viewstory=yes

Dapos

Sure it has better chances of selling out with four teams playing than two. Wicklow and louth seats should sell out

chriskieire

Double headers are great...It'll be good for Wiklow and Louth playing infront of a full house! As said before everyone should have their day in HQ

blackbelt

Agreed,

While I think Dublin do have a right to request it,its a bit cheeky.I'm pro double-header but I can understand the logic behind the DCB request.

Let Louth and Wicklow play in CP.They have the right.For one of these two teams,it will defintely be their last day in CP for the season.

One Cold Hand

Dapos wrote:

Sure it has better chances of selling out with four teams playing than two. Wicklow and louth seats should sell out

It has already sold out! It sold out early this week! And if it was just Dubs Meath it would have sold out as well!

That's where issue arose. Dublin County Board didn't just randomly approach the GAA about getting it changed! It was because it sold out and dubs only got 30,000 tics (I think, I don't know the exact number!) when they would have sold at least double this. Its the same for Meath fans.

Also, Wicklow and Louth fans can't get enough tics either, I'm sure they'd like the chance to see their teams aswell....

meathman 007

blackbelt wrote:

Agreed,

While I think Dublin do have a right to request it,its a bit cheeky.

why do they have a right to request it blackbelt? - its NOT dublins home ground, parnell park is. So what gives them the right to have the stadium to themselves? - in my opinion, Dublin county boards think they are royalty and should get whatever they request. Youse havnt won an All Ireland in over 10 years and youse wanted to be treated like the top county in Ireland.
Im a meathman, but if were a louth or wicklow fan i would be outraged...

blackbelt

Meathman,I've already stated that I'm pro double header.It was always going to be a double header but tell me why they don't have the right to request it?

The DCB can only ask and I do think they are doing it for the good of their supporters,the Dubs.If Meath had the same fanfare/fan support that Dublin do,I'd suspect the MCB would have done the same.There are people who will do jail-time just to get tickets.

I also stated that it was cheeky of the DCB but I can see where they are coming from.If I was a Louth/Wicklow supporter,I would too be extremely annoyed.

blackbelt

I also do not understand what your argument is about Dublin not winning an AI final in over a decade,it has nothing to do with it.Neither would it hold any substance if the MCB were doing the same and I said "youse haven't won an AI in 8 years".

Fact of the matter is that Dublin have the fanbase and a higher demand than any other county.Thats not to say we feel we should be entitled to all the tickets we can get but the DCB have a duty to Dublin supporters.Thats why they have the right.In a perfect GAA world,every county would get their day in the big stadium.I am sure the DCB is inundated with calls for tickets.I can't say the same for Meath as their support has been v lacklustre in the games they have played.

I'd still go mad for a ticket if we were playing against Kilkenny.The DCB have to be seen to try to satisfy the needs and wants for ticket demands.

Loadedscream

It is a sell out but everybody here knows that if you want a ticket you will get a ticket somewhere!!!

Benedict XVI

I don't get all this 'Louth and Wicklow are entitled to have their game in Croke Park argumnet'.

They already had a game in Croke Park, on May 20th, they drew 1-11 to 0.14 .

cruiserweight

Benedict XVI wrote:

I don't get all this 'Louth and Wicklow are entitled to have their game in Croke Park argumnet'.

They already had a game in Croke Park, on May 20th, they drew 1-11 to 0.14 .

Would you get it if the game was Wexford vs Wicklow/Louth as was originally scheduled.

Here is my 2 cents on the whole thing. The Dublin County Board are representing the Dublin team and supporters, and as such are entitled to request more tickets off of the GAA, or a single fixture to get more tickets. They are doing there job. The GAA is responsible for looking after the organisation as a whole, and as such should look after the interests of all counties and teams, and as such should turn down any such request IMO. Nothing bad has gone one here.

I am just disappointed that Wexford are not playing this weekend, although I feel that watching a Dublin vs Meath game may have been a let down after watching Wexford

blackbelt

Good points Cruiserweight.As a Dub,I am pro double header.It adds value to the price of the ticket and we get to see great matches.There is no situation where everybody can win.I'd hope that all Dublin and Meath supporters would be there at 2:10 and watch the first game and that Louth/Wicklow would do the same,stick around and create a great atmosphere.

The real victims are Wexford and the true fans from the 4 counties that couldn't get tickets.The DCB are only trying to do their job and look after the fans.Mick O Dwyer can crow all he wants about DCB being obnoxious/greedy whatever but you can bet your last euro that he would try to get as many Wicklow fans to get tickets if he was in a position to do so.

Its all hypocrisy.

cruiserweight

blackbelt wrote:

Good points Cruiserweight.As a Dub,I am pro double header.It adds value to the price of the ticket and we get to see great matches.There is no situation where everybody can win.I'd hope that all Dublin and Meath supporters would be there at 2:10 and watch the first game and that Louth/Wicklow would do the same,stick around and create a great atmosphere.

The real victims are Wexford and the true fans from the 4 counties that couldn't get tickets.The DCB are only trying to do their job and look after the fans.Mick O Dwyer can crow all he wants about DCB being obnoxious/greedy whatever but you can bet your last euro that he would try to get as many Wicklow fans to get tickets if he was in a position to do so.

Its all hypocrisy.

It is Mick O'Dwyers job to fight his corner as well. GAA fans will be there for both games, but you will find a lot of empty seats

I am not sure exactly how it works in Dublin, but once you are a member of a club you should be okay. For example when Wexford were in the hurling final in 1996 I had no problem getting tickets through the club.

meathman 007

ok you make some fair points blackbelt - but i do think that a lot of dublin fans feel they have a divine right to get a ticket to the game - i dont know why the have this attitude - would they feel the same if Croke Park was not based in Dublin? - maybe not. The population of Dublin is far greater than any of the other teams in question - so it logical that there will be a greater demand for tickets in Dublin - despite this, i think tickets should be evenly distributed and if a county can not sell its batch, then pass them on to Dublin........

clg23

Of course DCB would try get more tickets for their fans its common sense..

Also u are not giving the wicklow and Louth fans the chance to play in front of a full Croker as about 50,000 people will arrive between half 3 and 4 (which I do not support but will happen regardless).

It is not a case of DCB thinking of Croker as a home ground but it is the only ground in the country that could satisfy demand for the fixture

Trampas

Only way to solve all the talk about who should get tickets is to bring in a ticketing scheme. Where every match someone goes to gets a tick (League games included). Where tickets are short whoever has the most tickets over the past x years gets first chance to buy a ticket.

It can be broken down to club level to make it fairer.

Then the proper fans will get a ticket come final day.

Might even make more more for the gaa.

But we know it will never happen

Nalced_irl

meathman 007 wrote:

blackbelt wrote:

Agreed,

While I think Dublin do have a right to request it,its a bit cheeky.

why do they have a right to request it blackbelt? - its NOT dublins home ground, parnell park is. So what gives them the right to have the stadium to themselves? - in my opinion, Dublin county boards think they are royalty and should get whatever they request. Youse havnt won an All Ireland in over 10 years and youse wanted to be treated like the top county in Ireland.
Im a meathman, but if were a louth or wicklow fan i would be outraged...

This is my point tho. Of course it isnt Dublins Home ground but whats so bad about requesting this? They dont have a right to have the stadium to themselves but it would make sense as the match will easily sell out. Besides its Dublin and Meath that would have it to themselves, not just Dublin. I dont see how everyone sees this as Dublin thinking they "should get what they want". This is a matter of getting more tickets for Dublin AND Meath as both counties are short. Now of course Louth and Wicklow are also short on tickets so in one way having them at different venues makes sense. As i said originally, im aware that Louth and Wicklow want to play in HQ so i have nothing against the GAA turning the request down, just that Dublin werent demanding anything, simply requesting it.

Nalced_irl

cruiserweight wrote:

Would you get it if the game was Wexford vs Wicklow/Louth as was originally scheduled.

Here is my 2 cents on the whole thing. The Dublin County Board are representing the Dublin team and supporters, and as such are entitled to request more tickets off of the GAA, or a single fixture to get more tickets. They are doing there job. The GAA is responsible for looking after the organisation as a whole, and as such should look after the interests of all counties and teams, and as such should turn down any such request IMO. Nothing bad has gone one here.

I am just disappointed that Wexford are not playing this weekend, although I feel that watching a Dublin vs Meath game may have been a let down after watching Wexford

Spot on. This is the thing. I have no problem with the GAA turning it down whatsoever. Just the way the request has been seen by others. I dunno about Dublin Meath being a letdown either. I think its great value. You get 2 football games and a bit of UFC also

Smarmore

blackbelt wrote:

Let Louth and Wicklow play in CP.They have the right.For one of these two teams,it will defintely be their last day in CP for the season.

Well you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. If Wicklow lose they go into the Tommy Murphy Cup and could well end up back in Croke Park for the final as Louth did last year. Also Louth will go into the back door if they lose, so they could well make another appearance before the end of the year. That comment is a perfect example of Dublin arrogance as is the manner of their request. I'm a Louth man and am finding it hard enough to get a ticket. If the game was not in Croke Park I would have no complaints. However Dublins argument was we want a single header so Dublin fans can get more tickets. The other teams can surely be accomodated elsewhere. That shows total disregard for both counties and they made no attempt to communicate their feelings with either of the respective county boards. If they had said this will benefit everybody and consulted with the other county boards involved, fair enough. They didn't though and that's why they're being accused of arrogance.

blackbelt

First of all Smarmore,maybe I should have pointed out that I meant it will definitely be one of these teams last day out in CP in a big capacity ie the championship.No offence but the Tommy Murphy Cup is hardly going to attract thousands of fans or sell out the stadium as not many people can give a monkies about it.Thats the sad reality.Thats also not being arrogant,thats fact.I also don't need you to point out to me that Wicklow will go into the Tommy Murphy Cup if they lose,I already know that.

Plus I wouldn't hold my breath on the winning team getting back to CP as I think Wexford will beat either team....more likely Louth if they win as Wicklow beat Wexford in the O Byrne cup.The Wexford fixture will either be in Parnell,Dr Cullen Park or Aughrim.According to bookmakers,Wexford would be strong favourites.

You seem to confuse the actions of the DCB and come up with a conclusion that its typical Dublin arrogance.First of all,the DCB are doing their job and thats trying to look after its fans.Granted,they should have gone about it in a different way.

The DCB knew that it was going to be a double header,they should have took any necessary action when they first knew of this but presumably they didn't.I've had some dealings with County Board officials and I can say that whilst the majority of them are nice people who seem to genuinely care and are good at their job,the minority of them are ignorant,arrogant pr1cks who are old fashioned and are unfit for their job.Unfortunatley they are also the people in top management down there.Yes they should have contacted the other county boards,I'll agree,but they didn't.This supports my case that some of the top officials down there are incompetent.I also don't think it was a case of blatant disregard for the other teams,I think it was more a case of regard for the Dublin fans who couldn't get a ticket.

So please don't brand the actions of those individuals in the DCB as typical Dublin arrogance because their actions have nothing to do with the mindset of Dublin supporters like myself who genuinely cares about each county and their fair share of the spoils and the best interest of their fans.I know they want to be in CP,I'm pro double header.

PS I'm very sorry for you if you can't get a ticket.Maybe you shouldn't give out about "Dublin arrogance" as it could have been beneficial to you by getting the game into another venue where you could have easily been accomodated.The DCB went about it the wrong way and I understand your anger but don't be so quick to brand it as typical Dublin arrogance.That is ignorance on your part but I would not call it typical Louth ignorance.

cruiserweight

blackbelt wrote:

First of all Smarmore,maybe I should have pointed out that I meant it will definitely be one of these teams last day out in CP in a big capacity ie the championship.No offence but the Tommy Murphy Cup is hardly going to attract thousands of fans or sell out the stadium as not many people can give a monkies about it.Thats the sad reality.Thats also not being arrogant,thats fact.I also don't need you to point out to me that Wicklow will go into the Tommy Murphy Cup if they lose,I already know that.

The Tommy Murphy Cup final will be in Croke Park as a curtain opener to one of the All-Ireland semi finals AFAIK

blackbelt wrote:

Plus I wouldn't hold my breath on the winning team getting back to CP as I think Wexford will beat either team....more likely Louth if they win as Wicklow beat Wexford in the O Byrne cup.The Wexford fixture will either be in Parnell,Dr Cullen Park or Aughrim.According to bookmakers,Wexford would be strong favourites.

Wexford beat Wicklow in the league, people seem to forget that I think it has been decided that Wexford vs Louth would be in Parnell Park and Wexford vs Wicklow would be in Dr Cullen Park

Smarmore

That was a long rant. Ultimately you agree with me though.

blackbelt wrote:

Granted,they should have gone about it in a different way.

And it is arrogance to say that Louth or Wicklow will "definitely" not be back in Croke Park and it's completely irrelevant to the argument anyway. It doesn't matter how far either team get, that's not the issue. That's your take on it which nobody asked for. The issue is DCBs request and you have agreed that they went about it the wrong way which is what the OP asked.

Bluetonic

chriskieire wrote:

Double headers are great...It'll be good for Wiklow and Louth playing infront of a full house! As said before everyone should have their day in HQ

ha ha ha brilliant.

The only houses that will be full when they play are the public houses.

sharkman

chriskieire wrote:

Double headers are great...It'll be good for Wiklow and Louth playing infront of a full house! As said before everyone should have their day in HQ

But it wont be a full house , because all the Dubs will still be in the pub !:D


Beat me to it Blue !!

andrew1977

I dont know what the big fuss is about now, this double header in croke park was on the bill even before the louth /wicklow match last week, the winners were going to play wexford .

The Leinster council had months of fixture planning , they could have set it at the beginning of the season to be a single match.

And as for the Dubs bringing their massive crowd to croke park, you dont see the thousands of them flocking to parnell park for league fixtures for the Dubs during the winter months
Give the die hards who follow them in the league a ticket and then then the Dubs wont need such a massive allocation.
Even in the place i work there are 5 lads going this weekend to cheer "The Dubs " , you would be lucky if they could name 2 players on the Dublin team

blackbelt

I do agree with you 100% about the DCB.I see the flipside of the coin however.There are genuine reasons why the DCB pursued that course of action and I don't believe it was to snub Wicklow or Louth.They just tried to accomodate Dublin fans and failed to do so by not partaking the course of action they should have which was to approach each CB in Wicklow/Louth.The reason I mentioned that either county will not likely be in CP thats packed to the rafters in the championship was to support the case of this game to be in CP with Dublin-Meath.

I was in CP for the Louth-Wicklow,Kildare-Meath match and the atmosphere was not the best.Then you look at it in Parnell Park and it looked much better.With Dublin and Meath playing,tickets were hard to get for every county,especially Wicklow-Louth.

I just didn't like your comments about Dublin arrogance.Kinda took it a bit personal to be honest.We are not all arrogant here in Dublin.The typical arrogant supporter is most likely a sunshine supporter.People who know me and in particular my girlfriend will know how passionate I am bout GAA.I do not fit into the category of arrogant supporter.


I am not a sunshine supporter.If you want to meet real arrogant fans,you'll find them as people who don't know the rules of the game,structure of the league and championship,how their county got so far in the league/championship or where a particular county is on the map,or "fans" who don't even go to their county's home league fixtures in February or March because its too cold.The same bunch of undeserving people who get tickets in their lap so easy when the real supporter will kill for just one ticket.The same arrogant people who ticket tout :mad: and those who have the ideology of putting off going to CP til the final.

Thats real arrogance Smarmore.

I assume you are not one of these
and I strongly presume members on this board aren't either.I'm sorry for the rant again but in my mind arrogance and sunshine supporters are synonymous.

Mushy

Do people think it was bad of the Dubs to request this?

Yes. Mainly cos it was already a double header long before this replay was fixed for this Sunday.

Bluetonic wrote:

ha ha ha brilliant.

The only houses that will be full when they play are the public houses.

As much as there is a small bit of arrogance from the DCB over this, that sort of comment is still classic, even though I should be offended.

But honestly, I feel this request, or more-so in how it came about, undermines the efforts of both Louth and Wicklow. Sure who knows, that match may possibly a lot more entertaining, and worth the ticket price on its own. Plus tickets were on sale before last Sundays replay, so Dub fans had plenty of time to get tickets. I know many Wicklow fans who cant get tickets for the match(s) aswell but hey, Wicklow are still on their longest Championship run in decades:p

Blackjack

Bluetonic wrote:

Ahem!



http://www.hill16.ie/viewstoryhill16.asp?mainheading=Word+on+The+Hill&id=8384&viewstory=yes

Well that's me corrected then!.

Nalced_irl

Bluetonic wrote:

ha ha ha brilliant.

The only houses that will be full when they play are the public houses.

Hehe, good one. Very true tho. Its always hilarious to see some bloke at about 2:30pm before a 4pm throw in falling around The Big Tree or Quinns or whatever and just knowing he has no chance of seeing the inside of Croker today!

Nalced_irl

Smarmore wrote:

Well you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. If Wicklow lose they go into the Tommy Murphy Cup and could well end up back in Croke Park for the final as Louth did last year. Also Louth will go into the back door if they lose, so they could well make another appearance before the end of the year. That comment is a perfect example of Dublin arrogance as is the manner of their request. I'm a Louth man and am finding it hard enough to get a ticket. If the game was not in Croke Park I would have no complaints. However Dublins argument was we want a single header so Dublin fans can get more tickets. The other teams can surely be accomodated elsewhere. That shows total disregard for both counties and they made no attempt to communicate their feelings with either of the respective county boards. If they had said this will benefit everybody and consulted with the other county boards involved, fair enough. They didn't though and that's why they're being accused of arrogance.

This is an exact example of why this board really pisses me off sometimes. Blackbelts comment was obviously to do with the Championship, fair enough he didnt go through his post with a fine tooth comb to ensure some anti Dublin (insert word) doesnt pull him up on it. This request shows no arrogence. As someone already pointed out, the DCB job is to look after Dublin fans. This is what they were doing and if playing in HQ wasnt such an experience, it would make perfect sense, as all counties want to play there obviously it would be unfair to push the match elsewhere but i think this request is being used once again by the large amount of Anti-Dublin bigots out there to have yet another shot at the DCB.

Blackjack

To be fair, if it's sold out already, then there is a case for s single header. However, I'm not a big fan of single headers. One of the things I love about going to Croker is that you almost always get 2 games - if you don't show up for the first one, fine, but at least you get value for money. Plus, you get a better mix of fan, which adds to the craic and atmosphere.

Anyhow, being from Mayo, I would expect that I can see the mighty Mayo in Croker several times this year up until the last sunday in september, given the road to Sam this year is via the qualifiers.

Nalced_irl

Blackjack wrote:

To be fair, if it's sold out already, then there is a case for s single header. However, I'm not a big fan of single headers. One of the things I love about going to Croker is that you almost always get 2 games - if you don't show up for the first one, fine, but at least you get value for money. Plus, you get a better mix of fan, which adds to the craic and atmosphere.

Anyhow, being from Mayo, I would expect that I can see the mighty Mayo in Croker several times this year up until the last sunday in september, given the road to Sam this year is via the qualifiers.

I fully agree, single headers can take away from the day compared to a double. Its just people view on Dublin that annoys me. You were around this board last year and almost every thread that opened up was anti-Dublin. Either we always think were gonna win Sam, were not real fans, were too cocky, nobody like the dubs and so on. I think the people who say all this have no real idea about Dubs fans. They see the Hill every now and then on a Dubs match day and come to all sorts of conclusions from that. Maybe they should pay more attention to the Dubs fan sitting beside them who is simply supporting his county? Jesus, i have been at games when a fan of the opposing team makes every effort to turn around and celebrate at the Dubs fans for every point scored and of course ive seen Dubs fans do the same but i think we get the bad end when it comes down to it and people highlight what we do and not what anyone else does. Anyway, thats kinda me going off on a spiral of other things. I believe, while the DCB may not have gone about it the right way, they were right to do this as they are looking after the people they should be looking after. Sure, they should have gone to the respective boards but hindsight (or however its spelt) is a wonderful thing. The natural choice is to go to the GAA for things like this so thats what they did.

Blackjack

Nalced_irl wrote:

I fully agree, single headers can take away from the day compared to a double. Its just people view on Dublin that annoys me. You were around this board last year and almost every thread that opened up was anti-Dublin. Either we always think were gonna win Sam, were not real fans, were too cocky, nobody like the dubs and so on. I think the people who say all this have no real idea about Dubs fans. They see the Hill every now and then on a Dubs match day and come to all sorts of conclusions from that. Maybe they should pay more attention to the Dubs fan sitting beside them who is simply supporting his county? Jesus, i have been at games when a fan of the opposing team makes every effort to turn around and celebrate at the Dubs fans for every point scored and of course ive seen Dubs fans do the same but i think we get the bad end when it comes down to it and people highlight what we do and not what anyone else does. Anyway, thats kinda me going off on a spiral of other things. I believe, while the DCB may not have gone about it the right way, they were right to do this as they are looking after the people they should be looking after. Sure, they should have gone to the respective boards but hindsight (or however its spelt) is a wonderful thing. The natural choice is to go to the GAA for things like this so thats what they did.

Agreed, I was around these boards last year, and a number of posts were Anti Dublin.

From my own perspective, the Mayo/Dublin Semi last year when a number of posters got upset at Mayo claiming the hill from being first out did the ublin argument no favours. Not intending to open old wounds, but there was a notion that the right to practice into the hill belonged to Dublin and Dublin only - My opinion on this (and I am biased in favour of Mayo) is that Dublin don't own Croker, Parnell Park maybe, but never Croker.

On the flip side, the Dublin county team are probably the best supported team in the country, ahead of any other non-national sporting team, and are generally well represented. There is a percentage of gob****es who follow most counties, Dublin by virtue of population has a larger number of these, hence why there is the anti-Dublin bias.

Thankfully, Mayo have no gob****es whatsoever. We're as pure as the driven snow.

dcr22B

On the other hand, I don't see the harm in requesting a single header considering we had to sacrifice a home game in the 'Nell to keep Nickey Brennan et al happy by having a match played under the lights rather than having one of the garrison games have that honour!

Blackjack

dcr22B wrote:

garrison games

Move on.
That game sold out Croker. Plenty of people, particularly the Anti GAA bunch were writing off the league as a second string championship. The weekend that was played, it was the best attended sporting event in Europe, and if I recall correctly, there was a full timetable of a number of sports (Wales vs Ireland in Rugger, the usual Premiership stuff) that same weekend.

Gaelic Football and Hurling have nothing to fear from any other games.

Lemlin

Blackbelt and Nacled_Irl

Ye say the Dublin county board is doing this for the Dublin supporters. However, where were all these great supporters when they had a League game in Limerick earlier in the year and there was only about 1,500 (between the two teams at it). 83,000 managed to walk down the road the week before to see Dublin play Tyrone. Did the other 81,500 get lost on the way to Limerick???

The Louth and Wicklow supporters have every right to be looked after. More of a right that the sunshine supporters.

Waylander

You never tire of repeating yourself Lemlin do you? It does not matter that they were not in Limerick that day, it matters that the demand is there to fill croker on Sunday, and if you dont ask you wont get. My view is that it was worth asking by the county board, it was refused, nothing else to say on the matter. I really think some people are blowing it out of all proportion here.

Trampas

They didn't demand for it to be a single header they asked and was refused.

Dublin didn't go screaming to the press about it.

They accepted the decision.

Tickets for the game went on sale on ticketmaster so anyone who wanted a ticket could have got one so people can't complain.

clg23

Every county has reduced crowds at away league games in undesireable locations (to get to, i would never suggest that Limerick is not a nice place )

I too enjoy double headers getting to see teams up close that we may meet later in the summer but I think it has been established now that the request for a single header was to make tickets more freely available for everyone and not to deny smaller counties there day in CP...

Nalced_irl

Lemlin wrote:

Blackbelt and Nacled_Irl

Ye say the Dublin county board is doing this for the Dublin supporters. However, where were all these great supporters when they had a League game in Limerick earlier in the year and there was only about 1,500 (between the two teams at it). 83,000 managed to walk down the road the week before to see Dublin play Tyrone. Did the other 81,500 get lost on the way to Limerick???

The Louth and Wicklow supporters have every right to be looked after. More of a right that the sunshine supporters.

Ah Lemlin, things were getting a little too quiet here. Good to have you back. I think the you should be looking more at the Limerick fans on that one. Dubs had to travel the entire way accross the country which obviously is not possible for most of us, Limerick fans didnt so where were they? As i said, of course the Louth and Wicklow supporters should be looked after but thats not the DCB job. The GAA as someone pointed out are there to look after everyone and thats what they did by turning the request down. Anyway, this thread isnt supposed to be about how commited fans are to each county, we had that last year and nothing good came from it so i say leave it lie for this year. This is about the reaction to the request being made.

Nalced_irl

clg23 wrote:

I think it has been established now that the request for a single header was to make tickets more freely available for everyone and not to deny smaller counties there day in CP...

Precisely, but these things get turned all to often to make it look like there was a hidden agenda involved

Smarmore

I'd just like to say that I'm not anti-Dublin at all. I'm from Louth which is why I really want Dublin to stuff Meath on Sunday. A Louth victory followed by a Meath defeat would be a fantastic day for any Louth supporter!! I never made any comments about Dublin fans, every county has sunshine fans in proportion to their populations. So I wasn't using this as an excuse to attack Dublin fans at all. My point was about the DCBs actions and I already attempted to point that out to stop this thread going off topic into that childish debate. The fact is DCB did not show any respect to their fellow county boards. They have a responsibility not only to Dublin fans but also to the GAA in general. I think that's the point Mick O'Dwyer was trying to get across. And who are we to argue with the great Micko!!

Nalced_irl

Smarmore wrote:

I'd just like to say that I'm not anti-Dublin at all. I'm from Louth which is why I really want Dublin to stuff Meath on Sunday. A Louth victory followed by a Meath defeat would be a fantastic day for any Louth supporter!! I never made any comments about Dublin fans, every county has sunshine fans in proportion to their populations. So I wasn't using this as an excuse to attack Dublin fans at all. My point was about the DCBs actions and I already attempted to point that out to stop this thread going off topic into that childish debate. The fact is DCB did not show any respect to their fellow county boards. They have a responsibility not only to Dublin fans but also to the GAA in general. I think that's the point Mick O'Dwyer was trying to get across. And who are we to argue with the great Micko!!

I will, Sky Box Office, Friday Fight Night Nalced_IRL V Micko! I know the DCB went about it the wrong way, but i still dont think Micko and the general publics criticism is fair. Im sure given the chance they would go back and do it in a better manner concerning all teams involved but as i said, hindsight is something unfortunately thats only good after the mistake has been made. The fans thing came up last year and i think it should stay in last year really. As you pointed out it did get rather childish after a bit but hopefully this thread will keep on the right track.

Dr. Nick

About 40% of the people who will frequent the Hill on Sunday have as much interest in the GAA as an organisation as they have in the current lack of Conservative members on the Colchester Town Council.

Nalced_irl

80% of stats are untrue tho Honestly, i think your going a little overboard saying 40%. Like to see where that stat came from.

Dr. Nick

Nalced_irl wrote:

80% of stats are untrue tho Honestly, i think your going a little overboard saying 40%. Like to see where that stat came from.

Top of my head of course

Mushy

Dr. Nick wrote:

About 40% of the people who will frequent the Hill on Sunday have as much interest in the GAA as an organisation as they have in the current lack of Conservative members on the Colchester Town Council.

Supposedly, I'm still not fully sure here, but supposedly I'm in the Hill on Sunday:D. Wicklow people in the middle of it all...I'm doubtful. Sweet if I am though. But my point is, I'm not in that 40%

Lemlin

Nalced_irl wrote:

Ah Lemlin, things were getting a little too quiet here. Good to have you back. I think the you should be looking more at the Limerick fans on that one. Dubs had to travel the entire way accross the country which obviously is not possible for most of us, Limerick fans didnt so where were they? As i said, of course the Louth and Wicklow supporters should be looked after but thats not the DCB job. The GAA as someone pointed out are there to look after everyone and thats what they did by turning the request down. Anyway, this thread isnt supposed to be about how commited fans are to each county, we had that last year and nothing good came from it so i say leave it lie for this year. This is about the reaction to the request being made.

Did you go to the same school of debating as Blackbelt? Because you're equally as poor.

The bottom line is that 60,000 or so Limerick supporters hadn't turned up for a game down their road the week before, had they??

Nalced_irl

I didnt go to a school for debating. You see, unlike you, i dont take every word anyone says and scrutinize it for the smallest hole. I simply come on here to talk about GAA, not to test my debating skills. You come on to argue. On that note, what was your last post that had nothing to do with Dublin? You dont discuss GAA at all really, you argue and whine about Dubs, thats it. What difference does it make how many come out for a game in croker. Again. you cannot seem to let this fans thing go can you? You seem surprised that more people will get a 45 min bus journey to a game than will travel for 4/5 hours to one. It seems kinda obvious! But anyway, ill play your game, 23,000 Tyrone fans did come out for a game the week before in a different county. Did they have all 23,000 in the stadium for their next home game?? Surely that worse eh? They will travel to see a game in Croker but then in a much smaller stadium, they dont bother?

PS. Try and make a real point about something other than the fact that some Dubs fans are not commited enough for your liking as, well, nobody cares. Good for you that the first thing you did when you got out of the womb was sign up to you local GAA team and get a season ticket for the county ground.