IP Address conflict -banned

TelePaul

Hi guys. Basically I get in trouble any time myself and my brother post in the same forum - different user names but our IP address is coming up as the same (assuming it's using the IP address from the wireless router, both in the same house). I've gotten banned for alleged trolling in the Instruments forum, though it's not the case! Is this normal?

feylya

This is how it appears to me - Bratach Bán and TelePaul are backing each other up in the Instruments forum, while attacking another user (in this case Voodoo_Child). Previously, they have both posted (from the same IP address) about how to get around paying tax. Both of these things are against the charter. I banned them both previously until they explained the situation when I unbanned them. All was good until tonight until they started backing up each other (TelePaul's deleted post of "owned" will is evidence enough).

Both are banned for a week.

Matthewthebig

garthv

Brother....sister....its all the same,
Posting with two accounts from the same IP is a no no.

TelePaul

feylya wrote:

This is how it appears to me - Bratach Bán and TelePaul are backing each other up in the Instruments forum, while attacking another user (in this case Voodoo_Child). Previously, they have both posted (from the same IP address) about how to get around paying tax. Both of these things are against the charter. I banned them both previously until they explained the situation when I unbanned them. All was good until tonight until they started backing up each other (TelePaul's deleted post of "owned" will is evidence enough).

Both are banned for a week.

Look Feyla, just because we share the same opinions isn't grounds to ban us....if you're going to remain impartial you'll notice that I didn't advocate tax avoidance - merely referenced that instrument prices in Ireland are high - and you'll also notice that Voodoo Child made derogatory comments towards me because he mistook me for someone else. Sorry if this is all coming from the same IP address, but there's nothing I can do about it, that's why I took this up with feedback.

TelePaul

GaRtH_V wrote:

Brother....sister....its all the same,
Posting with two accounts from the same IP is a no no.

So you're telling me there's no way to differentiate no? And I wont be taken at my word?

johnny_ultimate

Matthewthebig wrote:

Cats by the second reply? Must be some sort of record.

Bratach Bán

feylya wrote:

Bratach Bán and TelePaul are backing each other up in the Instruments forum, while attacking another user

Feylya, with all due respect, what I said was in no way an attack on Voodoo Child. It was meant strictly as genuine advice. I don't want to be punished for making honest suggestions.

Sparky

It's all in the nàme.

Bratach Bán

Actually, Feylya, I've thought this over. I have a solution: how about you chew the bark off my big, fat log.

You preside over a piece of **** forum with no traffic. Your status as a moderator revolves around your position in a glorified circle-jerk of Ibanez ans second rate metal players who derive sexual satisfaction from locking trems, poor paint-jobs, eighties perms and spandex pants.

You know shag all about anything relevant. I firmly suggest a real job, where your input may matter.

So suck the big one, you second rate cocksmoker.

feylya

Kinda ironic. I don't play Ibanez guitars. Fair enough though. TelePaul and Bratach Bán's bans are permanent. Why TelePaul? He requested it:

TelePaul wrote:

I have to tell you I won't be coming back to the guitars and basses forum, it's run in a ridiculous way.

Matthewthebig

Bratach B&#225 wrote: »

Actually, Feylya, I've thought this over. I have a solution: how about you chew the bark off my big, fat log.

You preside over a piece of **** forum with no traffic. Your status as a moderator revolves around your position in a glorified circle-jerk of Ibanez ans second rate metal players who derive sexual satisfaction from locking trems, poor paint-jobs, eighties perms and spandex pants.

You know shag all about anything relevant. I firmly suggest a real job, where your input may matter.

So suck the big one, you second rate cocksmoker.

TelePaul

Your call Feyla. What's with all the cats lads?

Matthewthebig

Bratach Bán

The cats - well, inarticulate people have historically used crude symbols to communicate when they are incapable of coherently expressing themselves with written words.

TelePaul

Bratach B&#225 wrote: »

The cats - well, inarticulate people have historically used crude symbols to communicate when they are incapable of coherently expressing themselves with written words.

*sigh*

Sparky

BuffyBot

Bratach B&#225 wrote: »

The cats - well, inarticulate people have historically used crude symbols to communicate when they are incapable of coherently expressing themselves with written words.

...says the person who brought us the literary classic that is...

Actually, Feylya, I've thought this over. I have a solution: how about you chew the bark off my big, fat log.

You preside over a piece of **** forum with no traffic. Your status as a moderator revolves around your position in a glorified circle-jerk of Ibanez ans second rate metal players who derive sexual satisfaction from locking trems, poor paint-jobs, eighties perms and spandex pants.

You know shag all about anything relevant. I firmly suggest a real job, where your input may matter.

So suck the big one, you second rate cocksmoker.

I'd look for a suitable cat picture, but I can't be bothered this early

Hobbes

Bratach B&#225 wrote: »

Actually, Feylya, I've thought this over. I have a solution: how about you chew the bark off my big, fat log.

You preside over a piece of **** forum with no traffic. Your status as a moderator revolves around your position in a glorified circle-jerk of Ibanez ans second rate metal players who derive sexual satisfaction from locking trems, poor paint-jobs, eighties perms and spandex pants.

You know shag all about anything relevant. I firmly suggest a real job, where your input may matter.

So suck the big one, you second rate cocksmoker.

So your solution is to get yourself permantly banned and let your brother use the forums. Very clever!

Boston

It looks like problem solved to me. Well done team.

monkeyfudge

Start up the flux capacitor and try this one again!

hullaballoo

Bratach B&#225 wrote: »

Actually, Feylya, I've thought this over. I have a solution: how about you chew the bark off my big, fat log.

You preside over a piece of **** forum with no traffic. Your status as a moderator revolves around your position in a glorified circle-jerk of Ibanez ans second rate metal players who derive sexual satisfaction from locking trems, poor paint-jobs, eighties perms and spandex pants.

You know shag all about anything relevant. I firmly suggest a real job, where your input may matter.

So suck the big one, you second rate cocksmoker.

Right.

Edit: TelePaul, you needn't worry about your brother posting from the same IP address for a couple of weeks. In the meantime, you can sort out some sort of way of making sure both machines have a different IP address.

TelePaul

hullaball&#250 wrote:

Right.

Edit: TelePaul, you needn't worry about your brother posting from the same IP address for a couple of weeks. In the meantime, you can sort out some sort of way of making sure both machines have a different IP address.

I'll ask in the tech forum.

Hobbes

I'm amazed there has been cats in spandex pants. You guys are slipping.

tuxy

GaRtH_V wrote:

Brother....sister....its all the same,
Posting with two accounts from the same IP is a no no.

I think you may be wrong here.
Before, a mod + Devore asked why I had the same IP address as another poster.
When I explained it was my brother, all was good.
Also if I was to use boards from a net café or library, would I have to go to every PC in the building to make sure no one else was posting on board?

Tar.Aldarion

It is true, you can use two accounts from the same IP. A lot of people have to.

feylya

A problem appears when 2 people post from the same IP, trolling in the same forum.

Karl Hungus

feylya wrote:

A problem appears when 2 people post from the same IP, trolling in the same forum.

Were they really trolling though? I mean, they wouldn't be the first purists to think that certain Fender models have acheived perfection, and that everything since then is blasphemy.

Surely the reaction in this very thread to clearly superior Ibanez guitars would indicate that they're just misguided purists?

feylya

Read the thread Hungus.

Karl Hungus

feylya wrote:

Read the thread Hungus.

I have read it, there was a disagrement about whether a 3 saddle bridge would intonate full. Was that really trolling?

feylya

Two people, backing up each other from the same IP address while attacking another posting and posting such wonderful posts as "owned" is close enough to trolling for me.

Karl Hungus

feylya wrote:

Two people, backing up each other from the same IP address while attacking another posting and posting such wonderful posts as "owned" is close enough to trolling for me.

Attacking?

TelePaul

Karl Hungus wrote:

Attacking?

Hey Karl, you and me have gotten into some good arguments before, I remember one about the shape of Metallicas new guitars! But I seem to remember it was all cool. To be honest, I think a diversity of opinions is pretty healthy, especially given the propensity for varying tastes.

Yeah, like you said myself and Bratach love our Fenders. But if you read bratachs post, he does know what he's talking about, particularly from the physics side of things. It wasn't an attack, but it was some pretty good general advice on intonation. I also think attack is a very strong word considering Voodoo Childs ability to hold his own! He knows a thing or two about Fenders as well. The 'owned' comment was stupid, I'll admit that, I posted it, immediately thought better of it and deleted it.

Honestly, the IP thing is annoying me the most, you guys have the right to moderate as you see fit but you wouldn't have called 'trolling' if we had different IPs.

Edit: I see Voodoo Child wasn't banned. Feylya you said Voodoo and I were both on final warnings, but banned Bratach and I when you saw that we had the same IP. That adds further weight to the fact we were banned for this silly IP thing.

jhegarty

Dogs allowed ? or it just cats?

Karl Hungus

TelePaul wrote:

Hey Karl, you and me have gotten into some good arguments before, I remember one about the shape of Metallicas new guitars! But I seem to remember it was all cool. To be honest, I think a diversity of opinions is pretty healthy, especially given the propensity for varying tastes.

I agree with you completely, and I think a clash of opinion makes for really interesting discussions.

The instruments board has become kinda neutered as of late.

To be quite frank, I don't see any reason for your ban. You weren't trolling in my books, you weren't attacking anyone, you weren't being disruptive or annoying. Bratach Ban could've shown some cop on in this thread mind you, but for the original instruments ban, I can't see any reasoning behind it.

Karl Hungus

Karl Hungus wrote:

I agree with you completely, and I think a clash of opinion makes for really interesting discussions.

The instruments board has become kinda neutered as of late.

To be quite frank, I don't see any reason for your ban. You weren't trolling in my books, you weren't attacking anyone, you weren't being disruptive or annoying. Bratach Ban could've shown some cop on in this thread mind you, but for the original instruments ban, I can't see any reasoning behind it.

Aren't you a mod of instruments????

Karl Hungus

iainnash wrote:

Aren't you a mod of instruments????

Yes. What's your point?

TelePaul

Karl Hungus wrote:

I agree with you completely, and I think a clash of opinion makes for really interesting discussions.

The instruments board has become kinda neutered as of late.

To be quite frank, I don't see any reason for your ban. You weren't trolling in my books, you weren't attacking anyone, you weren't being disruptive or annoying. Bratach Ban could've shown some cop on in this thread mind you, but for the original instruments ban, I can't see any reasoning behind it.

Kark I'm inclined to agree with you. I know Bratach Ban didn't do himself any favours in this thread, but I know he was annoyed at being banned for giving some solid advice; did you read his post on noticeable difference? I thought it was spot on. Part of the reason we are of similar opinions in many cases is because I'll ask his advice on set-ups, intonation, amps, effects etc.

tallaght01

Karl Hungus wrote:

I agree with you completely, and I think a clash of opinion makes for really interesting discussions.

The instruments board has become kinda neutered as of late.

To be quite frank, I don't see any reason for your ban. You weren't trolling in my books, you weren't attacking anyone, you weren't being disruptive or annoying. Bratach Ban could've shown some cop on in this thread mind you, but for the original instruments ban, I can't see any reasoning behind it.

The Hungus tells it like it is.

TelePaul

tallaght01 wrote:

The Hungus tells it like it is.

Thanks tallaght01.

DonkeyStyle \o/

jhegarty wrote:

Dogs allowed ? or it just cats?

I'm still wondering what happened to the owls.

Tar.Aldarion

The owl died.

Stabshauptmann

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

The owl died.

Exaustion

DonkeyStyle \o/

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

The owl died.

No wai!

(I heard it was a hoax tbh)

Karl Hungus

To be entirely fair, I think this thread should be taken a little more seriously.

tuxy

Karl Hungus wrote:

To be entirely fair, I think this thread should be taken a little more seriously.

Unfortunately a thread about being banned is never taken seriously. The OP just gets heckled.

Boston

Karl Hungus wrote:

To be entirely fair, I think this thread should be taken a little more seriously.

I agree. Cat picture on the first page is too much. Negates the whole idea behind them, which was to add insult to injury on some user that refused to see sense. The Op actually had some form of valid point, and that should have been respected to a degree.

nesf

GaRtH_V wrote:

Posting with two accounts from the same IP is a no no.

Eh, no.

TelePaul

Look, I know this is something of a kangaroo court, but I really don't wanna get banned from other forums for the same reason.

TelePaul

Boston wrote:

The Op actually had some form of valid point, and that should have been respected to a degree.

Might I pitifully add it's not too late?