FF overall majority: its time to get out of this country

JonnyXXX

latest predictions are a FF overall majority. Thats it folks, the irish have a serious problem if they are voting this shower back in. What are we like?!!

Simi

Smart?

Mr Magnolia

Source?

The Bollox

don't look at me, I voted for Kodos

back on topic: I suppose it was just our thirs for a good bitching session that got us all voting FF again, at least that way we won't have to come up with new reasons to be pissed off.

I voted green btw

aidan24326

They won't have an overall majority. They're looking at being around the same mark as last time.

PD's won't be with this this time though, even their senior TD's are struggling to get re-elected.

ateam

JonnyXXX wrote:

latest predictions are a FF overall majority. Thats it folks, the irish have a serious problem if they are voting this shower back in. What are we like?!!

It's democracy!

Colonel Sanders

what does FF have to do to lose an election? Flush people down the toilet rather than billions of their cash?

Wino82

Pretty depressing stuff. mcdowell losing against gormely would be some consolation, but hope its not overall majority!

PH01

FF Majority! Wow That would be fantastic, but I don't think it'll happen this time.

John R

Who has predicted that? All indications are that FF will get a similar number of seats as 2002, that will mean they are the only ones realistically able to lead a government but they will still need a coalition of some sort.

And it looks like the PDs are in trouble so they may well have to look elsewhere.

Pal

JonnyXXX wrote:

latest predictions are a FF overall majority. Thats it folks, the irish have a serious problem if they are voting this shower back in. What are we like?!!

Yes. that's clever. the people are wrong and you know best.

TheBigEvil

JonnyXXX wrote:

latest predictions are a FF overall majority. Thats it folks, the irish have a serious problem if they are voting this shower back in. What are we like?!!

We'll if they do get it, what does that say about the opposition?? Obviously they didn't do enough to convince the public that they would be any better. And in fairness, there have been enough issues for the opposition to

These pre-election pacts end up working in favour of FF not against. Looks like Labour are going to lose seats to FG.

what_car

PH01 wrote:

FF Majority! Wow That would be fantastic, but I don't think it'll happen this time.

oh dear another 5 years of fianna folly....

i thought these idiots would get their marching orders.....

Giblet

Ah sure we should have had Enda, when he ****s it up he'll pull out like, you know, he'll leave! (it in a mess).

nesf

JonnyXXX wrote:

latest predictions are a FF overall majority. Thats it folks, the irish have a serious problem if they are voting this shower back in. What are we like?!!

Grow up and welcome to democracy.

thebman

TheBigEvil wrote:

We'll if they do get it, what does that say about the opposition?? Obviously they didn't do enough to convince the public that they would be any better. And in fairness, there have been enough issues for the opposition to

These pre-election pacts end up working in favour of FF not against. Looks like Labour are going to lose seats to FG.

Yeah it has nothing to do with Bertie calling the election on a Thurs, preventing many people from voting (especially students) so the only people turning out in numbers are the people who have got rich from the "celtic tiger" or property bubble if you will who are happy to have Bertie licking developers holes.

ninebeanrows

Talk of an overall majority on RTE there..

Seems like it could be possible.

Extraordinarily disappointing, can't believe there's such a support.

:rolleyes:

Giblet

brim4brim wrote:

Yeah it has nothing to do with Bertie calling the election on a Thurs, preventing many people from voting (especially students) so the only people turning out in numbers are the people who have got rich from the "celtic tiger" or property bubble if you will who are happy to have Bertie licking developers holes.

It was one of the highest turn outs though. So yeah. Students are idealistic idiots at the best of times anyway, the real world doesn't run on wind power. Most people have done well off the "Celtic Tiger".

daveirl

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Paddy Power is offering 11/10 on an overall majority for FF :eek:

That's almost evens.

Next on the list is 2/1 for FF/Greens

Time Magazine

Giblet wrote:

Students are idealistic idiots at the best of times anyway, the real world doesn't run on wind power.

And here's me thinking the country would be able to see the benefit of a change in government.

Congrats FF.

Colonel Sanders

Giblet wrote:

Students are idealistic idiots at the best of times anyway, the real world doesn't run on wind power.

they are still entitled to vote. are you saying people who are still influenced by michael collins signing a treaty over 80 years ago are in any way rational?

nesf

daveirl wrote:

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Group think. There's been a large opposition following on this forum for quite some time and some of the more naive people convinced themselves that it was representative of the population.

That, and arrogance.

Giblet

Ibid wrote:

And here's me thinking the country would be able to see the benefit of a change in government.

Congrats FF.

Well a completely unexpected Ibid comment there... :rolleyes:

I can see the benefits of living how I am at present thank you very much.

Giblet

Colonel Sanders wrote:

Giblet wrote:

Students are idealistic idiots at the best of times anyway, the real world doesn't run on wind power.

they are still entitled to vote. are you saying people who are still influenced by michael collins signing a treaty over 80 years ago are in any way rational?

And they did vote. So no problem there.

TerrorFirmer

brim4brim wrote:

Yeah it has nothing to do with Bertie calling the election on a Thurs, preventing many people from voting (especially students) so the only people turning out in numbers are the people who have got rich from the "celtic tiger" or property bubble if you will who are happy to have Bertie licking developers holes.

No you're totally right, it doesn't. Massive turnout this year.

seamus

We'll see a big change over the next 10-15 years as the die hards die out.

FF and FG have for the last 80 years relied massively on the "My father died..." and "Our family has always voted..." and "De Valera was a saint...." type voting to secure their majorities. As today's 18-40 age bracket turn 30-60, there'll be a sea change.

My brother's girlfriend voted for an FF candidate because the candidate's a family friend. She specifically disagrees with a number of the candidate's positions on things, but was compelled to vote for them because of the family connection :rolleyes:

Time Magazine

Giblet wrote:

I can see the benefits of living how I am at present thank you very much.

Bah, too busy with exams (stupid lecturers must be slaughtered) to get into it, but government is not boolean.

daveirl

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Giblet

Ibid wrote:

Bah, too busy with exams (stupid lecturers must be slaughtered) to get into it, but government is not boolean.

Do you think I'm that much of an idiot? Really?

bringitdown

Thank god I'm leaving on a jetplane tomorrow.

I swear, democracy doesn't work....

empirix

25 years of Communism is the answer boys, just back from Prague, beautiful city, cheap, decent transport system, fairly decent healthcare system, affordable housing.

Sure who needs to leave the country, we have tv

DeepBlue

It would be nothing short of remarkable if FF get an overall majority and the PD's are wiped out in the one election. Bertie would have to be canonised as the patron saint of FF if that were to happen.
McDowell and Harney would then have plenty of time to reflect ruefully on Charlie's famous comment about him being "the most clever, the most cunning, the most devious of them all" .

Time Magazine

Giblet wrote:

Do you think I'm that much of an idiot? Really?

Do you think I'm an idealistic idiot at the best of times?

It depends on your answer to that tbh.

Smarmore

seamus wrote:

We'll see a big change over the next 10-15 years as the die hards die out.

FF and FG have for the last 80 years relied massively on the "My father died..." and "Our family has always voted..." and "De Valera was a saint...." type voting to secure their majorities. As today's 18-40 age bracket turn 30-60, there'll be a sea change.

My brother's girlfriend voted for an FF candidate because the candidate's a family friend. She specifically disagrees with a number of the candidate's positions on things, but was compelled to vote for them because of the family connection :rolleyes:

Wishful thinking!! I'm 26 and I will always vote Fianna Fail provided they keep progress going strong in this country. A lot of older people vote FF because they're a lot wiser. As the 18-40 age bracket turn 30-60 you will see them change from the likes of the Greens to FF. The reason being is because young people are too idealogical and don't realise what it takes to run a country. It's a dirty job and FF are the best at it. Do you not think it's strange that old people who are most at risk of getting ill are voting FF and you have students waffling on about a crisis in the health sector even though they have probably had no first-hand experience of it!!

Giblet

Ibid wrote:

Do you think I'm an idealistic idiot at the best of times?

It depends on your answer to that tbh.

Here's a hint. I'm also a student. So unless I think I myself are an idiot, wait I'll let you hang on that, because this is fun.

Villain

I think the PD's are taking the blaim for Health and Justice problems so FF have another 5 years to sort out the issues, this is last chance salone for them now if FF can't make real progress on the main issues they will get punished

BMH

It'd be nice to have a change, but FG/FF's policies and promises are near identical at the moment. I'd still have liked FG/Labour for the West connection and to stop FF from getting lazy though =/

radioman

Realistically the people were voting for the lesser of two evils. A FG-Labour led government which showed not much potential in opposition the past few years, or a FF led government who have presided over a blossoming economy yet can't get anything right when it comes to healthcare or transport. It seems at the moment that FF are the clear winners here, while the PDs have fallen foul of both being too close to FF for people to see a difference in voting for them, and also the McDowell effect, arrogant and pompous as he comes across.

It looks to me to be FF-somebody coalition at the moment. Who the somebody will be, PD, Green or Independents remains to be seen.

Time Magazine

Well if you're going to lump yourself in with idiots at the best of times, I best not complain about the semantics of your statement "I can see the benefits of living how I am at present."

Giblet

You really are acting the fool now, why do I get the feeling you literally think I meant "Hurr If I like where I am now, and Fianna Fail is in government, then I must vote Fianna Fail" Hence me saying "Do you think I'm that much of an idiot"

radioman

By the way, with regards to students being disadvantaged and not being able to vote on Thursdays etc... forgive me if I'm being ignorant but can students not register to vote in the area they are living/studying?

A Random Walk

There's a solid 40% block in this country who love the little scraps they get thrown from their masters table and ignore the big issues. Sure Charlie was a crook, but didn't he bring in free travel (as if he paid for it himself). So what if we wasted 50 million on e-voting and a couple of billion on the roads, Martin Cullen got the lamppost outside my house fixed.

Seeing us bulldoze our national monuments to build roads, seeing us force our children to commute 150 miles a day and seeing us leave our old people die on plastic chairs makes me grieve for this country. But not for the people who live in it.

The Muppet

We've never had it so good.

Pal

JonnyXXX wrote:

latest predictions are a FF overall majority. Thats it folks, the irish have a serious problem if they are voting this shower back in. What are we like?!!

Cheerio.

Zebra3

seamus wrote:

My brother's girlfriend voted for an FF candidate because the candidate's a family friend. She specifically disagrees with a number of the candidate's positions on things, but was compelled to vote for them because of the family connection :rolleyes:

But only she knows who she voted for.

If FF get a an overall majority, I'll get physically sick.

People voting for corruption, waste, and supporters of war crimes. :mad:

The Bollox

brim4brim wrote:

Yeah it has nothing to do with Bertie calling the election on a Thurs, preventing many people from voting (especially students) so the only people turning out in numbers are the people who have got rich from the "celtic tiger" or property bubble if you will who are happy to have Bertie licking developers holes.

most colleges are finished up by now, there maybe one or two left doing exams but that still leaves the rest of us "idealistic" voters open to vote

Giblet

The Bollox wrote:

most colleges are finished up by now, there maybe one or two left doing exams but that still leaves the rest of us "idealistic" voters open to vote

"idealistic idiots" I believe it was

Ok, I won't troll, sorry

Dyr

man If that shower get an overall majority im going to spend the next month down in A&E punching the lungs out of anny ould c***t on a trolley who admits to voting for luvely bertie

The mans a genius though he might have returned a FF majority purely on the "ahh poor bertie, leave him alone, he's alright" ticket.

Giblet

Why do people in opposition to FF like to do the "Ah here's the reason it must be x & y people living in their little houses etc etc" thing as the only POSSIBLE reason FF would get a vote.

Heinrich

The Muppet wrote:

We've never had it so good.

Is that what those happy people are saying, stuck on the National Traffic Jam aka the M50?

The happy patients on trolleys who are so glad they are not actually on plactic chairs?

The smiling victims of MRSA who have to pay for the treatment for the illness they contracted in the filthy hospitals which are only cleaned up for impending Harney visits?

Happy, contented parents with children in overcrowded schools.

Yes indeed, thank God, we never had it so good. You keep the money, I prefer my health.