Im fed up with people saying they dont study but manage to do well

estebancambias

There is such thing as people who are naturally smart but in the lc, it is purely to do with studying. Some people claim they do no work but manage to get good results but in reality they have been studying. How can someone know about the foreign policys of bismarck without studying, its impossible.
Some guy in my class is considered someone who does not have to study to do well, but in reality he has been working throughout 5th and 6th year maby nort intensively but he has worked at a continous basis.

Let me ask you this i got 40 points in my christmas exams, but then when i began opening the books in janurary i got 300 points. Does that mean im naturally smart? I dont think so.

herbieflowers

Some people though can just pay attnetion well in class, retain information really well so that they don't need to study AS much...they still need to study though...

interested

things never change.
The people that say then dont study are generally those that spend alot of time in the books. Of course, as per previous post, there are varying levels of information during retention.

My two cents worth: ignore what people are saying around you with regard to studying before the exams and immediately after an exam. Listening to someone talk about how easy they found Q1 etc can really mess with your head when sitting to prepare for the next exam. Be a bit selfish and only worry about what you do.

Rozabeez

Oh stop your whinging, some people do a standard amount of work that they wouldn't consider as "study". I've only started cramming recently. I didn't study for the mocks and did well enough, obviously you're feeling insecure if you feel the need to go and rant about other peoples' study habits/exam results.

Tar.Aldarion

In the LC I did not study, jus did homework and got up around 600. Not everybody has to know foreign policies.

Don't worry, in college people will not see study as 'not cool'...

cson

I'm fed up with yore ma.

Donald-Duck

herbieflowers wrote:

Some people though can just pay attnetion well in class, retain information really well so that they don't need to study AS much...they still need to study though...

This.

lemansky

I do homework, listen in class, and study for class tests.I've never sat down with the intention of studying 'for the leaving' if you know what I mean.I get along just fine that way without doing anymore study than is necessary to do well in class.

md99

meh, it's the same old story... Some can study LESS and get on. that's life. Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.

i dunno about just paying attention in class... Maybe if the student were attending a really good school, or had 7 very good teachers... because a majority of todays teachers are just quite rubbish...

phasers

as long as I do my homework I seem to remember a lot of it
some people just have a head for this type of stuff, I think it's very possible for someone to remember that stuff without studying

the only subject I study is maths and I did great in my junior cert

that being said, I wouldn't take the chance on the leaving so I'll have my head down studying (well trying to)

JC 2K3

lol, Jealousy.

I personally have to study, but not loads.

Nehpets

Noone goes into the leaving without studying..

Rozabeez

Don't be so quick to generalise. That's not exactly true, and no I'm not suggesting I'm one of those people. But your statement is false.

Nehpets

Noone aiming for any type of course goes into the leaving without studying

Rozabeez

That's better

Tar.Aldarion

Also not true though. People can have a good memory.

StephenInsane

I NEVER studied for my leaving. Just got hammered drunk the night before the exams, plus never went into school and never did any homework. Still got 600 in my leaving and left every exam after half an hour.

spurious

Some people can listen (really listen) in class, do regular homework to a high standard and retain a great deal of information. They have been doing this for 13 years before the Leaving. Any topping up they do may not seem to them to be 'study'.

At the other extreme are people who daydream in class, rarely do homework, or put little effort into homework and then seem to be suddenly faced with a huge amount of information to learn. These people often look at textbooks and have absolutely (genuinely) no recollection of having covered some topics. They then try to cram in information without having the underlying structures for recall and synthesis - this they see as study and of course it is difficult as they do not have the skills to retain at the same level and as easily as the other group do. People learn and store information in different ways.

The Leaving Cert. is not just a two year course, it builds on habits acquired at home, in primary school and during Junior Cert.

Many of the 'I never study' brigade have actually been studying, though they may not recognise it as such, for 13 years.

Enemy Of Fate

StephenInsane wrote:

I NEVER studied for my leaving. Just got hammered drunk the night before the exams, plus never went into school and never did any homework. Still got 600 in my leaving and left every exam after half an hour.

Something tells me you're exagerrating slightly.......

Tar.Aldarion

Is it your brain?

Captain Smiggy

What a convienient thread to distract me...I never really studied "for exams" as such, i just, as has been mentioned already, always did homework and study for class tests. Got 420 in my mocks with little study.....still, as has been said, different strokes....

md99

StephenInsane wrote:

I NEVER studied for my leaving. Just got hammered drunk the night before the exams, plus never went into school and never did any homework. Still got 600 in my leaving and left every exam after half an hour.

lol, aye, this is BS

Enemy Of Fate

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

Is it your brain?

Maybe........

Time Magazine

Look, the LC is a bit like life lads.

Some people will be completely f*cked over for no apparent reason. Some people will work their ass off and get their course. Some people will get freak grades, like the A1 my friend got in Higher English based on me telling him to study literary genre during the lunchtime before the exam. Just like in football/relationships/everything else, some people will just perform well off the cuff. Some people will do what I did and cram for three weeks and make their points with 5 to spare.

And some of you will be f*cked over despite working and blame the likes of me for getting decent points with three weeks of cramming (I didn't do much of the homework over the two years, either) and claim it's not fair. And in one way it's not. In another it is: the best way of measuring fair is who gets the better grade regardless of anything else.

Oh, and nobody gives a crap once you get to college. I hang out with a couple of 600 points people and regularly do better than one or two of them. I do study in College though because I genuinely enjoy my subjects.

Guinea

I dunno, there are people who do copious amounts of study, know the course, and do fairly well. But when these people are asked something slightly off-topic, the stumble and fall. Their knowledge is so narrow and Leaving Cert-focused that they have no real understanding of what they have memorised.

This to me is far worse than getting a C or B grade without studying, which, if you pay attention in class, and do a bit of homework, is well within most people's ability. A little bit of understanding in a subject like Physics will do more for you than learning off worked equations and problems, and will be more flexible in an exam situation.

Granted, a subject like Biology requires a fair bit of learning, but is memorising a text book really a justifiable way to spend an entire year of your life?

Duff

Its all lies, i didnt study and did shooite!!

Zaph

When I did my LC I really didn't study much and did all right. In the years since I left school I've done a few courses for professional qualifications relating to my job and again didn't study all that much, but I now have a degree and other qualifications. Now I've no doubt that I could have done better in the LC and improved on my 2.2 degree if I had studied, but the fact of the matter is that I knew I could get by with minimal effort. The reason for this is that I have very good retention, as long as I hear something in a class there's a very good chance that I'll remember it. However, give me a text book and I'll be bored with it and doing something else within minutes as I have a low boredom threshhold. I somehow doubt that I'm the only person on the planet with a good memory, and that's how those of us lucky to have it get by without studying much. The downside is that it does make a person a bit lazy and, as I said, I would have done a lot better had I studied more.

Copper_90210

When some people say they did barely any study + dey get really good results in d end,, then u must remember that they could b on a totally different level than what ur aimin for.
The study that they did could be a lot more than what U did ... but to THEM it was not enough. -therefore dey say dey did little study.
make any sense??

lemansky

Copper_90210 wrote:

When some people say they did barely any study + dey get really good results in d end,, then u must remember that they could b on a totally different level than what ur aimin for.
The study that they did could be a lot more than what U did ... but to THEM it was not enough. -therefore dey say dey did little study.
make any sense??

Precisely.Its all relative to the individual involved.

cson

I dunno if this question has been asked already but....

Why the hell do you give a $hite whether someone else is studying or not?

What fcuking difference does it make to you?

OP, grow up.

Cake Fiend

StephenInsane wrote:

I NEVER studied for my leaving. Just got hammered drunk the night before the exams, plus never went into school and never did any homework. Still got 600 in my leaving and left every exam after half an hour.

Hah. I specifically hypnotized myself to forget all knowledge of all my leaving subjects, came into the exam hall on acid, left before the exams started, and I still got 700 points out of 600!

I walked uphill both ways too (in the snow).

Nehpets

Cake Fiend wrote:

Hah. I specifically hypnotized myself to forget all knowledge of all my leaving subjects, came into the exam hall on acid, left before the exams started, and I still got 700 points out of 600!

I walked uphill both ways too (in the snow).

I've ordered in a Turkish chicken which I have trained for only 4 hours to cover all the material needed for the LC. The chicken is going to sit all 49 subjects available and I think it's gaurenteed that I will get an A1 in each. But maybe a C3 in German as the Turkish chicken has some prejudice against that subject!

The chicken is also proving Sam Hamiliton wrong in the "Should Irish be mandatory" thread!

Donald-Duck

Copper_90210 wrote:

When some people say they did barely any study + dey get really good results in d end,, then u must remember that they could b on a totally different level than what ur aimin for.
The study that they did could be a lot more than what U did ... but to THEM it was not enough. -therefore dey say dey did little study.
make any sense??

True and not true. I'd be suprised if anyone could get 500points+ without studying except for the night or 2 before any given exam. But it would easily be possible to do with the 400point region for anyone whose got at retaining information.(I got 375 with starting my study for 3/7 subjects the night before and not even bothering studying for 3 subjects at all until the an hour before the exam, could easily have done better but I didn't need to so I didn't bother.)

As Zaph(I think) said above, I too can't look at a text book for more than a minute without being bored so I do very very small amounts of study for anything and tend to just go on what I've picked up from doing homework(Even this was half-ass attempted when I did). I agree with him about it making you lazy too:o I've carried on doing the same thing in college too.

pilchard

i dunno, i mean i've done what i would call little study but did ok in the pre's.... the people i would concider more able to get the points,feel the need do way more study (eg- a friend of mine got 550 in her pre's and has now taken to spending hours, i mean HOURS, locked in her room studying, but i think this is due to the pressure on her to do better i the exams as it is expected in most casses that ones point would increase)

i think peoples ability to study, way of studying and the pressure on each indevidual plays a large part in time spent studying and perceived time spent studying.

I wont 'study' certain subjects as i seem to retain information much easier in those subjects... i dont think people sould go into exams without studying even if it is just to build confidence in their knowledge, but to each his own.

blondie07

i agree that it really does depend on the individual. i have a friend who genuinely did barely any study all year because her brother is friends with mine and he's always bitching about how little she does. she goes out most weekends too. but she got 560 in her pre. i guess she's just got the most incredible retention skills. im fine for english, french and biology cuz i did my homework all year. as for history, irish and geography, this week is my first week looking at them. but tbh, geography is a load of bs. 3/4 days is plenty of time to get the course done. i can honestly say i did more for my junior cert than now, but i study best when im under pressure, il get a lot done the nite before!

TriciaDelicia

I'm doing my lc I listen in class and do my homework I think that's enough until it's time to refresh my memory closer to the day

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TriciaDelicia wrote: »

I'm doing my lc I listen in class and do my homework I think that's enough until it's time to refresh my memory closer to the day

What posessed you to drag up this fossil?

PurpleFistMixer

I'm mystified as to how people stumble across old threads. I presume they don't go searching boards for them, so... do they turn up on google or something when you look for "Leaving Cert"?

Fad

PurpleFistMixer wrote: »

I'm mystified as to how people stumble across old threads. I presume they don't go searching boards for them, so... do they turn up on google or something when you look for "Leaving Cert"?

Turns up in google when you search "How To Disturb The Natural Order"


[Actually this does: link, if only google was this helpful when i am looking for something! current fustration: finding a link* that isnt dead to either of the Emocapella albums, im just venting fustration, not looking for help btw, no rules broken]

*I like having a functioning computer too much to go near torrents or limewire and what not

HouseHippo

I know how you feel there is a girl in my year, a straight A student, who got all A's in her junior and when you ask her for study tips she tells you she didn't open a book.
I don't know about you buut I certainly would not get straight A's if I didn't open a book.

Cokehead Mother

Neither would I. She might have though.

HouseHippo

Na another girl in our year lives next door to her she never leaves the house. Thinks hanging out and having bf's and going to parties etc etc is immature lol

eVeNtInE

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Stev_o

This thread is goddamn awful :P

I'm fed up with people who are fed up about people saying they don't study but still do well, get over it! Some people will always be naturally more intelligent/have a better memory etc; life isn't fair, get used to it!

K4t

cson wrote: »

I dunno if this question has been asked already but....

Why the hell do you give a $hite whether someone else is studying or not?

What fcuking difference does it make to you?

OP, grow up.

Word.

All I'll say on the matter is that there is no worse feeling than sitting in an exam hall and not knowing the answers to most of the questions, while the people and friends around you are writing away.

Just do your study and don't listen to people who say they do no study. If they're saying that all the time without provocation, they're just looking for attention and want you to do worse than them.

GA361

K4t wrote: »

Word.

there is no worse feeling than sitting in an exam hall and not knowing the answers to most of the questions, while the people and friends around you are writing away.
quote]

But its a great feeling when you do know all the answers:D.

estebancambias

ah nice to see my leaving cert thread..good times.

K4t

GA361 wrote: »

K4t wrote: »

Word.

there is no worse feeling than sitting in an exam hall and not knowing the answers to most of the questions, while the people and friends around you are writing away.
quote]

But its a great feeling when you do know all the answers:D.

Just another day in the life of K4t. :cool:

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estebancambias wrote: »

ah nice to see my leaving cert thread..good times.

I blame TriciaDelicia

crunchycorner

I hate the fact that some people care so much about what others are doing. If they're that worried they should be studying themselves. I do my homework, listen in class, learn for class tests and as a result am doing very well at school compared to most of my class. I would like to study but i haven't got the time. Every year when it comes to x-mas + summer tests and even the jc i left my study to the night before. A lot of people don't belive this 'cos i usually end up with the best results overall and it really pisses me off!!!!!!!!:mad: