Cheating In The Leaving.

cson

I hope no one who frequents these boards would be so callous to the rest of us as to cheat in the exams.:D No the question I'm asking is what would you do if you saw someone cheating? Probably nothing I imagine the respones will be.

Enemy Of Fate

I wouldn't really care.Hell I cheated in the junior cert.....wouldn't do it in the leaving though.Too much at stake.

Steve01

I was an attendant during the Leaving Cert last year and I can say for certain that there was cheating going on. I didn't do anything about it though... still got paid

Tails142

would be so callous to the rest of us

:rolleyes:

md99

it's done a little, but how much of a difference can it really make? apart from minor things...

cson

Tails142 wrote:

:rolleyes:

I think you can take what I said with a pinch of salt my feathered friend.

Enemy Of Fate

Actually funny story bout cheating.In the Junior Cert mocks we had a study period before our Irish exams so we obviously all had notes and stuff out.So then during the exam we get this ***** of a teacher who goes around checking if anyone had notes in with them.So only 2 seats ahead of me she goes mad when she finds out one of HER irish students has brought his entire irish copy in with him!!And it wasn't a normal sized copy, it was an A4 pad!!And his excuse was (this is priceless) ''I forgot''......I mean how the hell can you forget about an A4 pad?!?

I was really lucky though because whenever she was giving out to him, I just realised I had an irish letter in my fullscap.And I wasn't even going to use it to cheat because I didn't care about Irish at all, but it still would have had my exam cancelled.Thankfully though she stopped RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.It was quite lucky for me.

Sangre

people who cheat always do cráp anyway.

Enemy Of Fate

Sangre wrote:

people who cheat always do cráp anyway.

Now I think we all know thats just not true.

Peyton Manning

Its not the LC, but a girl beside me got caught cheating in our college exams last tuesday. Great to watch her being thrown out.

Sangre

who will do better? the guy who takes the time to look at his limited notes to cheat or the guy who knows it anyway?

Time Magazine

Pfft that's nothing!

'Twas the Spring of '92 and big brother of Ibid was sitting his LC History mock. Despite being a strong student, he had done a poor exam and worried about how it might affect his confidence. Sitting at the back of the exam hall, he concocted a plan.

Thus when the examiners were correcting the scrips, big brother sat on his script and informed one that his script had indeed already been collected.

And so it came to pass, come results day, there was no History result for big brother. He feigned the tears and gave out no end to the poor Mr Cummins. An agreement was reached: a B and a sincere apology from the school for the loss the of the paper.

Big brother was a happy little cheater.

Rozabeez

Classy. I nearly got a mock cancelled because some little weirdo of a 3rd year started asking me if I had any smokes. Gob****e.

Sangre

in his mocks? what an idiot.

ZorbaTehZ

Sangre wrote:

who will do better? the guy who takes the time to look at his limited notes to cheat or the guy who knows it anyway?

We're Leaving Cert students, not little children. Your rhetorical questions and wisdom are useless here I'm afraid.

cson

I have to agree with Sangre, if you have to resort to cheating.......

Hence those who do cheat would in theory do worse than someone who doesn't on the basis that the person that doesn't actually knows their stuff.

Enemy Of Fate

I attempted that in my 2nd year german exams.Couldn't answer the last page at all so I simply ripped it out and handed up the paper without it.Next day during one of my other exams my german teacher comes in and asks me about it, and I said I must not have gotten the page.She didn't buy it though and so I didn't get any marks for it.*****.

Also another great story bout my 2nd year exams.In English we knew in advance that the question was going to be on the balcony scene in Romeo and Juliet, and so I had an answer written out in my pocket on an A4 page.Whenever the examinier turned their back I just took out the sheet and handed it up with my paper.Got a B+ for it too!!

Sangre

ZorbaTehZ wrote:

We're Leaving Cert students, not little children. Your rhetorical questions and wisdom are useless here I'm afraid.

because Leaving Cert students don't understand rhetorical questions?

cson

Enemy Of Fate wrote:

Also another great story bout my 2nd year exams.In English we knew in advance that the question was going to be on the balcony scene in Romeo and Juliet, and so I had an answer written out in my pocket on an A4 page.Whenever the examinier turned their back I just took out the sheet and handed it up with my paper.Got a B+ for it too!!

The Darina Allen method was quite popular in our school too.

Rozabeez

I remember during a French exam once, I wasn't really thinking and had to put an "A, B or C" in the box, but I just ticked it. I got 95% and all. She lol'd at me.

Donald-Duck

I'd cheat(ed) in a mock but never a real exam.

Limerick Dude

I cheated a wee bit in my maths mock this year.

Completely cheated in my economics xmas exam, had the book open in my bag and was just flicking through pages! Was just too easy

Rozabeez

But like....what's the point in get false recognition (in the mock I mean) for work you didn't really do? I mean, if you can't do well in the mock without cheating, then you get a false sense of security towards the LC after doing well....what's the point?

cson

So that when you get you're real results you can be shocked etc and go along the lines of "what?!, oh my god where did it all go wrong?"

Then you can go back to school next year, hardened from your experiences.

jimi_t

I've met one or two people who cheated in the leaving repeats, but to be honest they had little to lose being close to complete gob****es.

AFAIK you can't sit a state exam for 3 years if you're caught cheating - and I think that includes things like your Provisional theory test. I mean, worst comes to worst at least you have the option of repeating the year after if you make a balls of it. And think about if you ever need a character reference from your prinicpal (common enough). JUST SAY NO KIDS!

(imo, you'd want to be fairly vindictive to rat out someone for cheating - and the repurcussions for you mightn't be very pleasant either)

Limerick Dude

Well tbh I did absolutely nothing for the mocks and i still wnated to get reasonable results, (got 360)

Im not having any false sense of security because im well aware of what i need to do in terms of the work i have to put in, so ye can go both get of yer high horses

Rozabeez

Ah no, I don't mean with your maths exam cos tbh *I* know you'll do grand in maths anyway. But if you were to cheat your ass off in a load of exams, do you get what I mean?

Limerick Dude

Yeah I know what you mean, yeah but i didnt cheat in loads of exams, just maths in the pre's where i wrote a note to my friend asking what he got for a certain question.
Obviously im not going to do anything in the Leaving Cert.

Rozabeez

Hahaha, I'm not talking about you, I mean in general.

Limerick Dude

Erm ok.....sooooo......

Haven't a Clue

The only way I cheat is by writing out certain notes (e.g. quotes for history, theorems for maths etc.), put them in me pocket, then at the stage in the exam when you need the notes I go to the jacks and read them in there. There are the disadvantages of course, like you can realistically only do this once or twice during the exam, the jacks usually stink etc.

Nehpets

A lot of people seem to cheat...

Corruptedmorals

Ibid wrote:

Mr Cummins.

:eek: Colaiste, eh? I've never cheated... Way too much at stake in the LC too..like, never being allowed sit it at another school...

Taffy89

Enemy Of Fate wrote:

Now I think we all know thats just not true.

I find it true actually..I know a few people who have cheated entire test but barely pass, its's because you're so worried about getting caught you're not properly reading the questions or else writing the completely wrong answers!

Haven't a Clue

Taffy89 wrote:

I find it true actually..I know a few people who have cheated entire test but barely pass, its's because you're so worried about getting caught you're not properly reading the questions or else writing the completely wrong answers!

Pfft. Amateurs.

Boston

ZorbaTehZ wrote:

We're Leaving Cert students, not little children. Your rhetorical questions and wisdom are useless here I'm afraid.

Sangre wrote:

because Leaving Cert students don't understand rhetorical questions?

apparently so, given that your question has a definite answer and a rhetorical one doesn't.

8k2q1gfcz9s5d4

Sangre wrote:

people who cheat always do cráp anyway.

you have never cheated have you?

cson

I think he means cheating in the leaving cert.

They do crap in comparison to students who don't cheat as a student who doesn't cheat will probably know their stuff wheras a person who does cheat wastes time and energy cheating and more than likely won't really benefit from it.

So the moral of the story is this children; Don't cheat.

Or use my take on it; its only cheating if you get caught.

8k2q1gfcz9s5d4

Rozabeez wrote:

But like....what's the point in get false recognition (in the mock I mean) for work you didn't really do? I mean, if you can't do well in the mock without cheating, then you get a false sense of security towards the LC after doing well....what's the point?

in my situation when i did the mocks for the leaving, there was a lot of stuff i didnt have revised for the mock, that i KNEW i would know for the actual leaving its self, cheated as often as i could in the mocks, but not in the actual leaving.

another great reason to cheat in the mocks: if you do sh1t in the mocks, the chances of going out before the leaving are very small!!!

cson wrote:

its only cheating if you get caught.

dam right!!

timmywex

Steve01 wrote:

I was an attendant during the Leaving Cert last year and I can say for certain that there was cheating going on. I didn't do anything about it though... still got paid

how much do attendants get paid actually??i hear its good money

justbringit89

TBH , i wouldnt have any problem bringing a gun to a gun fight !! but for most my subjects hard 2 cheat , music,accountingetc.

Suppose bring quotes for ENG

GretchenWieners

go to the toilet during your exam, guarantee u there'll be notes in that cubicle somewhere and people don't even take their names off the front of their books!

Corruptedmorals

timmywex wrote:

how much do attendants get paid actually??i hear its good money

Minimum wage. Exact minimum wage, the one for under 18s too.

Boston

timmywex wrote:

how much do attendants get paid actually??i hear its good money

Thats not even remotely true. A bit less then minimum wage.

dan719

I did it last year, although the money per hour is poor it soon adds up. I made over 450 euros for the leaving cert!

Steve01

I did it last year too. Made 380 euro if my memory serves me well. In any event it was easily the best job I've ever held down. On the Monday when Maths and Geography were on I'd just come back from an all-night party. Slept for most of the way through both exams! I was positioned directly opposite the examiner for the Junior Cert. The look he gave me :rolleyes:

yurmothrintites

Ya I did it last year money was crap but you got a load of hours! Made like 480 euro:) Where I was supervisin de examiner once or twice would leave the actual hall and go into de hallway(kind of joined on to eachother) and i heard people in there whispering And also they were cheating in the bathrooms as well!

Nehpets

dan719 wrote:

I did it last year, although the money per hour is poor it soon adds up. I made over 450 euros for the leaving cert!

Yeah same here. It's boring but you can just listen to music or read. No work needed except bringing tea in

BigTommyBomb

I kind of cheated in the leaving. We had quite a casual setup in our school and when we were in one of the smaller rooms in the school. When the writing scripts were handed out I straight away wrote down every forumla that I might otherwise have forgotten. THen I had a few minutes to ask people others that i already had. Still maths that year was rock hard (2000) so I needed every bit of help I could get. I wouldnt reccomend proper cheating though as if you get caught you can be setup back your life quite a bit.

Mushy

how much do attendants get paid actually??i hear its good money

Not too true. Only got 250 for the JC last year. Although it is handy, just sitting round, doing whatever you want yourself. I even worked on my history project during that time. Alongside Smackdown Vs. Raw 2006 on the psp. It was just handy extra money really, I continued working where I normally worked, so it just supplemented that income. Plus trying to bring tea into a quiet hall when hungover/battered around, is very difficult. Thats my advice for the day.

Haven't a Clue

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God loves a tryer Jazzy. 8 attempts through though and have you really gotten anyone to pay for that ****e?