Modified Xbox 360s banned from Live

um7y1h83ge06nx

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=76528

So MS are banning modified 360s. There is a thread I notice on the Console Modding forum already, dealing with how to circumvent this etc. but I put it up here to get a different viewpoint.

I tend to be a bit shady when it comes to computers or electronics in general, but I refrained from modding my 360 for fear of this very thing happening. It'll be interesting to see how modders come up with new undetectable mods and how MS will counter them.

So will many people be affected by this and do you think it's a good idea?

Asmodean

Hmm I think its a good idea. TBH I don't see any reason why people would like to **** around with their console anyway. What possible mods will make it perform any better. Guess I just dont see the advantages of modding, it seems rather pointless.

mickoneill30

Asmodean wrote:

Hmm I think its a good idea. TBH I don't see any reason why people would like to **** around with their console anyway. What possible mods will make it perform any better. Guess I just dont see the advantages of modding, it seems rather pointless.

Did you ever see the Xbox 1 modded? Cool media centre, web browser, RSS feeds, emulators for piles of old consoles, homebrew, ability to run games from your HDD.

I think that's the eventual goal for the modders of 360s. Haven't gotten there yet though.

um7y1h83ge06nx

Well if modders can't make their modded 360s appear to be genuine to MS's computer systems then I think the numbers of people modding their consoles will drop massively.

Live is a huge part of the 360. Even if you don't like playing online, the ability to check out demos of new games and get DLC for games (e.g. the great Crackdown stuff) is excellent, and something people won't want to miss out on.
I guess if people are crazy enough they could have 2 consoles, one genuine, one modded, but can't see many doing that.

It will be interesting to see how this all pans out.

brav

Ya xbox 1 mooded was brilliant, It was(and to some extinct still is) the center of my media hub.

I used to throw up all my videos etc on the 200gb hrad drive and watch on the TV.
However Live was not big back then and I did not need it so the mod never affected me with Live.

Now though I think Live is a core part of the 360 and I will not mod it as I think I would not use my 360 as much if it didn't have Live

Gearsofwareire

brav wrote:

Ya xbox 1 mooded was brilliant, It was(and to some extinct still is) the center of my media hub.

I used to throw up all my videos etc on the 200gb hrad drive and watch on the TV.
However Live was not big back then and I did not need it so the mod never affected me with Live.

Now though I think Live is a core part of the 360 and I will not mod it as I think I would not use my 360 as much if it didn't have Live

I agree totally, xbox live has totally reinvented console gaming, all the consoles available on the market now are all very capable for playing games offline hence thats whats so appealing about the 360 it has such a big online community the live service is untouchable in comparison to anything offered by any of the other consoles. I cant understand why people would run the risk modding their xboxs voiding their warranty and running the risk of not being able to play online aswell after deciding to buy a 360 just buy a pc if you want a media centre!

Ah well leave them too it.

anto1208

I had a modded PS1 and PS2 never bothered with modding the xbox . I think microsoft have no right what so ever to ban these consoles , once the people buy them its there property to do with what they like .

They are within there rights to void your warrenty but that should be about it .

Mitch Connor

anto1208 wrote:

I had a modded PS1 and PS2 never bothered with modding the xbox . I think microsoft have no right what so ever to ban these consoles , once the people buy them its there property to do with what they like .

They are within there rights to void your warrenty but that should be about it .

they are not stopping you usnig your 360 though, they are stopping modded consoles from using Live, which they are perfectly entitled to do considering it is in the terms of use.

Tank Top Fever!

well I'm gone off live anyway, going to have to buy a new box

manyshadzz

Tank Top Fever! wrote:

well I'm gone off live anyway, going to have to buy a new box

Hate to laugh but I did let out a chuckle when pete told me

You cheap bastard!

Gearsofwareire

manyshadzz wrote:

Hate to laugh but I did let out a chuckle when pete told me

You cheap bastard!

Tank top ya clown haha

Kinetic^

Tank Top Fever! wrote:

well I'm gone off live anyway, going to have to buy a new box

Just buy a core.

lee_baby_simms

Kenny 5 wrote:

Just buy a core.

Yeah but thats the easy part. Its buying the games after previously getting them for nothing thats the tough bit.

Kinetic^

I wouldn't be back dating my games tbh, buy a handful of games second hand that you know you'll play. When you've got your 360 flashed, you'd be amazed at the amount of tripe games you pick up just because they're cheap.

J`S

I hope to god Microsoft take away all the gamer points clocked up whilst your box was chipped

kensutz

Won't happen J's. Just the console is banned

J`S

kensutz wrote:

Won't happen J's. Just the console is banned

ah I know but I was just hoping, Tank Top worked so hard to get his 30000+

kensutz

I've almost caught up with him

KdjaCL

Tank Top Fever! wrote:

well I'm gone off live anyway, going to have to buy a new box

Lol swap yah mine for yours i cba with live tbh 30 day thing ran out and i havent renewed it.

kdjac

Helix

im banned too but not particularly pushed, didnt play on live that much

kensutz

Tempting offer KdjaCL

Stokolan

Mine is weird.

I have 2 360s a Euro one and a Japanese one. I use the same HD and wireless adapter. The Euro one will connect but the Japanese one wont.. Im getting error codes but no message. weird that it only happens with one of the consoles..

Just found this too. [URL]"http://majornelson.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!FAB4B8088A70F52!590.entry"[/url]

If you see this screen and get Status Code: Z: 8015 - 190D…that means your console has been banned.

Just checked both consoles drives. My Japanese one has Haitachi-LG drive and the Eu one has Toshiba-Samsung. so If that has anything to do with it.

Tank Top Fever!

KdjaCL wrote:

Lol swap yah mine for yours i cba with live tbh 30 day thing ran out and i havent renewed it.

kdjac

Serious?

I'll defo take you up on that, and throw in all the games, sure they'd be no use to me

EricM

Has anyone here been banned from live yet?
I have modded firmware since last year and still not banned.
Screw them anyway if they do, i would rather play "backups" then go on live.
Their loss ill just call visa and do a chargeback for not providing service.

KdjaCL

EricM wrote:

Their loss ill just call visa and do a chargeback for not providing service.

You dont buy games yet its their loss

Thats some amazing logic.


kdjac

Ciaran500

KdjaCL wrote:

You dont buy games yet its their loss

Thats some amazing logic.


kdjac

You should read the comments on Major Nelson full of genius's with the same logic.

KdjaCL

Ciaran500 wrote:

You should read the comments on Major Nelson full of genius's with the same logic.

EG is the same, i have to wonder if im the only person with an unmodded xbox. Wonder how MSFT did it tho, the update seemingly checks eeproms and adds your console to a list by putting out the update and then mentioned the bans a week later is just brilliant.

The error code should be MSPWNZU tho (read that on EG )


kdjac

CiDeRmAn

I was tempted to mod the 360 but the benefits are so limited why bother, especially now folk are being banned.
It was always on the cards anyway, so folk with modded 360's, tough luck.

The Freeman

hhhmmm, i am not sure of this 'limited advantages' with the modded 360's, if ya have a p.c. you can download the games and they play on your 360 thus not paying 70e a pop, thats a fair advantage imo

axer

The Freeman wrote:

hhhmmm, i am not sure of this 'limited advantages' with the modded 360's, if ya have a p.c. you can download the games and they play on your 360 thus not paying 70e a pop, thats a fair advantage imo

Except thats illegal.

I think you meant to say that it allows you to play backups of the games you currently own.

Tank Top Fever!

I'm actually now contemplating keeping my crocked box to play back ups offline, and buying another core for xbox live purposes

Kinetic^

You're better off doing that Tank Top, I'd say you play offline and online 50/50 so there's no point in chucking your banned xbox live console.

weeder

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=603910&st=0

lol how to not get banned

Kinetic^

Cool, I only bought another one on thursday and had it flashed straight away, no problems so far......thank fcuk as most of my play is online!!!

Tank Top Fever!

Kenny 5 wrote:

You're better off doing that Tank Top, I'd say you play offline and online 50/50 so there's no point in chucking your banned xbox live console.

exactly man, you can never have enough xboxes!

The Freeman

axer wrote:

Except thats illegal.

I think you meant to say that it allows you to play backups of the games you currently own.

not at all mate!


a mate has his flashed downloads the games of the net, and burns them with his dual layered burner and he works them straight of the copied discs;)

axer

The Freeman wrote:

not at all mate!

I think you missed the point...

The Freeman wrote:

a mate has his flashed downloads the games of the net, and burns them with his dual layered burner and he works them straight of the copied discs;)

That is illegal.

~Marky~

Got banned this morning :mad: but at least now I have a reason to buy the elite 360 when it comes out..

The Freeman

axer wrote:

I think you missed the point...

That is illegal.

indeed i did miss the point, apologies all:o

Stokolan

~Marky~ wrote:

Got banned this morning :mad: but at least now I have a reason to buy the elite 360 when it comes out..

Yeah I'll probably do the same myself but will wait and see if my second 360 gets banned

Helix

reviews of the elite all make it sound very very pointless

Tank Top Fever!

Bought myself a new core and I'm back online, it's been a horrid few days ha

god's toy

Tank Top Fever! wrote:

Bought myself a new core and I'm back online, it's been a horrid few days ha

Can you still sing in to your 'old' profile, or is that locked out??

Tank Top Fever!

god's toy wrote:

Can you still sing in to your 'old' profile, or is that locked out??

Yep, all that's been banned is the console, not the gamertag, so all they've really done is banned people playing copied games online, you can still play them offline, just swap the hard drive into the other machine

god's toy

Cool! Thats good to know :)

skywalker

mickoneill30 wrote:

Did you ever see the Xbox 1 modded? Cool media centre, web browser, RSS feeds, emulators for piles of old consoles, homebrew, ability to run games from your HDD.

I think that's the eventual goal for the modders of 360s. Haven't gotten there yet though.

Is there an actual browser for the orig xbox? Havent come across that.

axer

skywalker wrote:

Is there an actual browser for the orig xbox? Havent come across that.

Linksbox - not sure if there is another though.

Kinetic^

Hmm, I got my new 360 on Thursday. Got it flashed before I even went on Xbox Live and it's still working........please work forever!!!!:)

Tank Top Fever!

Kenny 5 wrote:

Hmm, I got my new 360 on Thursday. Got it flashed before I even went on Xbox Live and it's still working........please work forever!!!!:)

there's a guy on Xbox-scene claiming people who modded the consoles before going live will be fine

He claims Microsoft still can't detect the flashed firmware, but each console when first signed up to live leaves a fingerprint of its various codes, flashing it changes one of the codes, which Microsoft are flagging as meaning you have a modded box

Kinetic^

Hmm, hopefully that guy is right!!!!

Stokolan

Tank Top Fever! wrote:

there's a guy on Xbox-scene claiming people who modded the consoles before going live will be fine

He claims Microsoft still can't detect the flashed firmware, but each console when first signed up to live leaves a fingerprint of its various codes, flashing it changes one of the codes, which Microsoft are flagging as meaning you have a modded box

I can see this being a possibility, but I used my 360 for a year on live then after what i thought was the warranty period I decided to get it done. And that console still hasn't been banned yet.