[US/IRL] 3X21 - "Greatest Hits" [** SPOILERS WITHIN **]

Basq

- WARNING: THIS THREAD WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT YET SEEN "GREATEST HITS" -

Episode Title: "Greatest Hits"
Airdate: May 16th 2007

Synopsis (from TV.Com):

While Jack devises a plan to do away with “The Others” once and for all, Sayid uncovers a flaw in “The Others” system that could lead to everyone’s rescue. However, the plan requires Charlie to take on a dangerous task that may make Desmond’s premonition come true.

Next New Episode: 3X22 -

"Through The Looking Glass"

- May 23rd 2007

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This episode shall air on:

ABC (US) - May 16th 2007
Sky One (UK/IRL) - May 20th 2007
RTÉ2 (UK/IRL) - May 21th 2007

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Anima

6

I liked it, nothing major happening except for the ending (which was great) but it was fast paced with lots going on. Roll on next week!

feylya

8

No great answers, not as good as last week but the ending was good

magick

7

its a build up ep, but v good none the less, however next week 2 hr finale looks fuc*in brillant!

Ste.phen

I'm a little confused as to WTF is going on... :P
It's obvious Ben lied about the station being out of commission, but who the hell are the 2 girls manning it?

Last week's encounter with Locke / Jacob sure lit a fire under Ben's ass, didn't it?

Also, was Desmond lying the whole time?

Anyone else notice the Looking Glass / White Rabbit team up today?
[edit: Just noticed the logo for The Looking Glass station is a rabbit.)

Was the rabbit that Alex killed for Karl the same one we see Ben with on the hydra station?

Haven't a Clue

6

That was a grand episode, although I cannae deny that I wanted to see Charlie dying. The ending wasn't overly shocking either because if Ben said that the station was flooded or whatever, why would Desmond say he saw Charlie going over, pressing some button and THEN drown?

It was a pure build up for the finale. Nothing wrong with that, but after the last couple of weeks' episodes I guess I was expecting a little bit more.

E@gle.

6

i thought it was meh. answered no questions imo. just dragged out a bit. i knew with the music when charlie was swimming into the hatch that there would be someone inside.

FX Meister

I'D LIKE TO NOW WHY DESMOND WAS GOING TO go down instead. Did he see what was going to happen down there. I did think charlie was going to die but even though he can be a bit of a spa I still like him

Star Lord

7

I really liked it, as it did a good job or making me think "Ah no, I don't really want Charlie to die!"

Nice tension with the arrival of Karl, and at least now Alex is questioning that Ben isn't her real father.

And I was pretty surprised to see the women com running out with the guns! I thought that Charlie'd hit the button and the whole place would self destruct or something, resulting in him drowning.

redtom

FX Meister wrote:

I'D LIKE TO NOW WHY DESMOND WAS GOING TO go down instead.

I reckon Desmond is a sleeper spy for the others, although against his will - maybe they've told him they've got Penny or something and will kill her if he doesn't orchestrate certain events... Maybe he's going down to make sure Charlie dies (i.e. to kill him), coz it's the right time now for Charlie to go...

Just thinkin aloud coz I don't buy into the whole future vision/time travel stuff - Desmond knows something and we're being misdirected...

...or something...

PiE

4

FX Meister wrote:

I'D LIKE TO NOW WHY DESMOND WAS GOING TO go down instead.

Ehhh... If I saw a vision of two fit-looking girls all alone in a lonely underwater station, I'd sure as hell offer to dive down.

Complete filler-tastic episode and a big drop in excitement from recent eps, but again I guess it was needed to build up to the finale.

dan_y

maybe desmond was lying? maybe he just saw charlie and him going out to the station - but it was him that went in? but he was too scared to go through with it so he used charlie cause he knew charlie would fall for it. but then he had that change of heart on the boat. only to end up attacking charlie's paddle with his face. desmond's weird.

Kanney

7

Filler I guess but was needed, flashbacks are kind of annoying me, especially when he wrote "#3, girl from covent calls me a hero" I thought, bollox another 2 flashbacks... Oh and the girl was Nadia aswell, Sayids love.
Not sure what to think about the underwater hatch...

Also Starring LeVar Burton

8

I thought it was great, although I knew Charlie wasn't going to die at the end of the episode, but still thought the build up was dramatic and everyone was expecting him to die. Even though it was a build-up episode for the finale, it's a better penultimate episode than what we've seen in season 1&2.

Ponster

7

Igy wrote:

It's obvious Ben lied about the station being out of commission, but who the hell are the 2 girls manning it?

I understood that it was probably Juliette who was lying.

And I suppose they're just Others like the.....Others

Narcissus

7

CaptainNegative wrote:

I thought it was great, although I knew Charlie wasn't going to die at the end of the episode, but still thought the build up was dramatic and everyone was expecting him to die. Even though it was a build-up episode for the finale, it's a better penultimate episode than what we've seen in season 1&2.

I think so too. It was a very good episode and a good build up to the finale.

The ending was fairly surprising. I didn't expect the two women to be there. According to Lostpedia their names are Bonnie and Greta. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out.

In the flashback where Charlie helps Nadia we see him singing Wonderwall. Is that supposed to be the same moment we see him singing it in "Flashes before your Eyes" only without Desmond in it, meaning he didn't travel back in time? or that the moment was changed? or was it a different moment? if I remember correctly it starts raining at that moment in "Flashes..." too.

And we see Rose and Bernard in an episode for the first time this season, I have a feeling that the others will get to them in the finale.

Also, I liked the way the flashbacks were done, each one being one of Charlie's greatest hits.

Royale with Cheese

5

Meh, not too much going on in that episode. Didn't expect much apart from a set up for the finale, and that's what we got.

scojones

6

Not much happened. I really like Charlie after the episode though.

damnyanks

Maybe the 2 girls are old dharma and stuck on the station. Or the kids of dharma stuck on the station.

Haven't a Clue

6

CaptainNegative wrote:

Even though it was a build-up episode for the finale, it's a better penultimate episode than what we've seen in season 1&2.

I beg to differ. Though 'Three Minutes' in s2 was a good bit better than this offering.

WellyJ

1

Why didnt they just cut the powerline to the underwater station?
That would have disabled whatever is blocking the signal

Anima

6

Maybe its not a power line?

I was sure Desmond was going to take his place that time. Des's episode had a strong sacrifice theme and it seemed like the only way to end that storyline. I wonder if Charlie is still going to die. I'd say the women won't be too happy with him just wandering in and ****ing their home up

Sad Professor

7

WellyJ wrote:

Why didnt they just cut the powerline to the underwater station?
That would have disabled whatever is blocking the signal

Yeah I don't think it's a powerline. Patchy said it was for communication and Sayid's map indicates that it's a "anchor" to the mainland.

Ponster

7

damnyanks wrote:

Maybe the 2 girls are old dharma and stuck on the station. Or the kids of dharma stuck on the station.

Doubt it as it seems the as it was built to be services by a sub, then they are probably Others who get supplies (or did at least) via the sub.
They couldn't survive down there that long without food.

Ponster

7

WellyJ wrote:

Why didnt they just cut the powerline to the underwater station?
That would have disabled whatever is blocking the signal

It's not a power line, it was described as an "anchor line"


What gets me though is the phone though. It's supposed to be a Sat phone which wouldn't be jammed by RF interference and if it did work they could call ANYONE IN THE WORLD so it doesn't matter if the ship is 18 miles of the coast or 18,000.

Haven't a Clue

6

Ponster wrote:

It's not a power line, it was described as an "anchor line"


What gets me though is the phone though. It's supposed to be a Sat phone which wouldn't be jammed by RF interference and if it did work they could call ANYONE IN THE WORLD so it doesn't matter if the ship is 18 miles of the coast or 18,000.

Ah, the reception could be a bitch. Vodafone haven't put up a permanant mast on the island yet ya see.

naitkris

Ponster wrote:

They couldn't survive down there that long without food.

fishing?

oxygen on the other hand, how does the station get refilled by oxygen without regular sub visits, or is that cable some sort of oxygen pump - seems pretty small to be anything other than for electricity/communications, but this is Lost so it could be anything.

WellyJ

1

naitkris wrote:

fishing?

oxygen on the other hand, how does the station get refilled by oxygen without regular sub visits, or is that cable some sort of oxygen pump - seems pretty small to be anything other than for electricity/communications, but this is Lost so it could be anything.

Maybe it pumps fresh water, liquidized food, oxygen electricity and communications through fibre optics

Gingervitis

at the start of that ring scene i thought charlie was gonna write "my first 3some"!

I suppose with all the stringing along of us that it'd be two obvious to kill off charlie in this episode, although he might still die in the finale, seeing as he hasn't flipped the switch yet...desmond to the rescue again?

rip2roar

8

The significance of the white rabbits? I can tell you, back in season one there was an episode called "white rabbit" in which the camp face water shortages and Charlie admits that he is "afraid of the water".

Creamy Goodness

one of the girls looked like cindi, the flight attendant. the one holding the rifle in the distance.

damnyanks

Ponster wrote:

Doubt it as it seems the as it was built to be services by a sub, then they are probably Others who get supplies (or did at least) via the sub.
They couldn't survive down there that long without food.

But Desmond and the other lads in the hatch had food for ages. It's unlikely I guess but possible all the same

King.Penguin

Did anyone else think the way they portrayed Desmond's premonition was unusual? We didn't see any of it for ourselves. I wasn't particularly impressed by this episode. Couple of interesting things but still leaves a lot to be desired.

Ponster

7

damnyanks wrote:

But Desmond and the other lads in the hatch had food for ages. It's unlikely I guess but possible all the same

Not for ages as such. From what I can remember there was a food drop every 4 weeks.

Spiritus Mundi#

Enjoyed it. As always i was impressed, very impressed with the acting and subtle little nods from the writers. e.g. When Ben hands Alex the gun she is gutting the rabbit, he hands the gun to her right hand that's covered in blood - a la "where's Locke?" subtle reply from Ben "his blood on your hands".

Also as usual was touched by a few scenes, with charlie n claire, charlie n Hurley, and i thought the scene where Karl whips out the gun was pretty funny!

I think what seperates myself from 90% of the posters here is im not obsessed with the search for answers, neither am i always totting up the amount of new questions being asked. I enjoy the show for it's writing, acting, execution, the whole works, kinda makes me feel people obssessed with questions n answers are missing out on the true experience.

ps. I thought Jack was excellent in this episode, surely has to quell a few of the Jack haters.

King.Penguin

What was the gun about though? why did she give locke a gun and not her dad? How did ben get the gun? Why did she return it to her. ....

Volvagia

7

You could say it was a filler and a build up to the finale, but in my opinion it was a very entertaining and well made filler.

As someone who usually gets frustrated with the way lost works, i'd be more than happy to watch more filler episodes of this quality in the future.

having said that, next week can't come soon enough!

Spiritus Mundi#

King.Penguin wrote:

What was the gun about though? why did she give locke a gun and not her dad? How did ben get the gun? Why did she return it to her. ....

She gave Locke the gun mainly i suppose because she wouldnt trust her 'dad' as far as she could throw him!!! not sure she knew anything specific was going to happen but for his own protection he might need it....and he did! AFAIK Ben had a gun also, Locke reached for his standing at the edge of the pit.

jor el

7

Pretty good episode all in all. What an ending though, who the hell are these women? I'd also say that Desmond is hiding something about his premonition and that's why we weren't privy to it this time.

The scene with Charlie playing in the rain is the same as Desmond's future/past flashback thing in episode 3x08 but Charlie is wearing different clothes and the people around are different. Same song, same location, but no Desmond or some other people and also it starts raining before he finishes the song this time.

A bit disappointed that there was no update on Locke in this episode though, I guess that'll be held till the final. Also, Jack wasn't an annoying prat this time either, miracles never cease on this island I guess.

anotherlostie

7

I gave it 8/10.

It was good, but not to the standard of the last couple of weeks, maybe there just wasn't enough action, because it was largely about setting the scene for next week.

The end was great - once again a Lost WTF ending. Don't think the loss of the sub would have a huge impact upon the girls - after all, Charlie got down there, so surely they could have swam out if they had to.

Maybe this was why Ben didn't want the others to have a boat.

Ryan looks like the sort of bloke who could kill someone with one blow - like happened in the early days to some of the less fortunate members of the Losties.

Flashbacks - meh. Nadia and the reference to Des's episode was a nice touch. And the hero reference she made reminded me of Mrs Hawkings telling Des he would never do anything significant.

Snake Plisken

6

Yeah Good episode solid 7, was sure Charlie was going to die, I don't like seeing any of the original losties die so happy he's still alive for now. <REMOVED>. Jack was pretty ok in it Like his "lets blow them all to Hell" line. Also Alex's line about Ben "Is he really my father?" looks like a setup for her to meet Danielle next week. Also Charlies Dad what the hell kind of accent had he? Also can Sayiid or Sawyer please put a bullet in Juliet's head for me?

Snake

Modedit: Please do NOT refer to promos in this thread, some of us don't want to hear it and just enjoy watching the show, thanks...

abelard

7

I actually preferred this one to last week's episode (probably as I hate Locke). Not going to deny it was filler, obviosuly, but there were lots of little things going on, between Carl, Ben/Alex, Danielle, and the survivors dividing into 3 groups, so the episode motored along at a good pace.

Flashbacks were pleasingly short, nice crossover with Nadia, and they were pretty relevant to the episode....and they had a threesome

cooker3

I quite enjoyed this one which is weird seeing as it was Charlie orientated.
I liked the flashbacks, they were short and snappy and I was actually interested to see what they were and they did a good job of making me feel sympathy for him.

Jack wasn't incredibly head wrecking and Sayed was on great form, telling Jack whats what and a quality rugby tackle on karl, nice hit!

Wtf @ the ending, I certainly wasn't expecting it.

Nice set up finale which looks like it is going to be amazing and I haven't got a clue what is going to happen which is just the way I like it

Kazooie

Liked this very much (First one I liked that centered on Charlie!). Lots of action and plot development. The bit where he's swimming down to the station was very well done. One question : where did Sayid get plans of the station?

CatInABox

Kazooie wrote:

where did Sayid get plans of the station?

More than likely off eye patch guy. Cant remember his name or what his station was called, but Sayid got plans of the barracks there too.

redtom

King.Penguin wrote:

Did anyone else think the way they portrayed Desmond's premonition was unusual?

I'm tellin you, Desmond is a sleeper spy working for the Others, but unknowingly - I bet he was programmed in Room 23 at some stage... or something - all through his interactions with Charlie in this episode I got the distinct feeling he was playing with him, but not entirely in an evil way - there's definitely something going on there...

Basq

I thought it was very good actually.

It was more or less a filler episode - but flashbacks flew by and had enough great moments to justify the watch.

It was obvious Charlie wouldn't die.. i mean they made it far too obvious from the start of the episode!

The pre-intro sequence of the episode was the most i've been pumped for an episode in a while with Jack giving his "300-esque" speech of "blowing them all to hell!" - and the explosion of the tree was all very exciting. The plan of the dynamite by the tents was genius. As was the reasoning for Danielle meeting Locke at the Black Rock.

The ending was suprising as i was sure because the finale was next week, it'd end with The Others descending on the beach.

Anyways: 7 / 10 for this one.

mr_angry

6

Cremo wrote:

one of the girls looked like cindi, the flight attendant. the one holding the rifle in the distance.

I thought it looked like Cassy (famed in the Sawyer and Kate flashbacks). Apparently its "Bonnie" though... unless she changed her name alà Kelvin "Joe" Inman, then I guess its somebody else!

Jesus Wept

4

why on earth did Charlie slap the bejaysais out of Desmond with an oar. He could just said 'ah no, it's alright, don't bother sacraficing yourself, I'll go'.

I don't think Desmond would of objected.

AnonoBoy

The-Rigger wrote:

why on earth did Charlie slap the bejaysais out of Desmond with an oar. He could just said 'ah no, it's alright, don't bother sacraficing yourself, I'll go'.

I don't think Desmond would of objected.

I would have thought it was quite an obvious reference to The Talented Mr. Ripley given the whole homoerotic undertone to the whole Charlie-Desmond relationship. No?

Alright so, must have just been cause it'd seem pretty damn dramatic.

And you'd think Charlie would have left his letter for Claire back on dry land instead of bringing it out on the open water.

ZiabR

6

I gave this episode a 7.

Ok there is something that I have in my head and I really need to post it before I go to bed as I will have forgotten it by morning.

As I have said before and from the very first time I saw Naomi. She is LYING. I am 100% sure if this folks, and if you have the time please read why I think so.

Ok lets go back to season 2 in LOST. Can you all remember when the Flame station sent out a request for a food drop? The Others needed supplies and in doing so they requested for a fresh drop to be made to the Island. Ok can anyone remember when the drop was made, the supply crate had a RED beacon on it so it could be easily seen and tracked as it fell through the sky and landed on the Island. It just happened that the Losties seen the RED light in the sky and made it to the crate first, taking all of the supplies for themselves.

Now let us fast forward to Season 3 where we see Desmond’s vision of the SUPPOSED helicopter crash on the Island. He sees a light in the sky and then as we seen whatever it was, crashed into the sea. Ok so as we have seen from Season 3 Episode 21 the underwater station is very much intact and there are people living on it. They are NOT Others as we know them and may infact be members of Dharma.

What is the one thing people will need to survive? WATER and FOOD. So the people living in the underwater station needed supplies dropped to stay alive. They requested a drop of supplies. What does the supply crates have on them for people to see? The RED beacon, the exact same beacon we seen in Season 2 and the EXACT same red beacon we seen in the sky when the SUPPOSED helicopter crashed. I think the RED beacon was NOT a helicopter but infact a supply drop for the people living in the underwater station. Now I am not saying that Naomi was not in a helicopter but the light we seen in the sky was not the helicopter, it was the supply crate.

You guys not think it a little odd that the RED light was exactly over the underwater station before we heard the crash into the sea? We know this because Charlie/Desmond/Jin/Hurley went to find the electric cable that ran into the sea and this was exactly the same spot they all seen the RED beacon.

The bottom line is, Naomi knew all along about the people in the underwater hatch, she was making a drop of supplies and not solely looking for Desmond. She may have ran into difficulties and she did eject from whatever she was flying BUT her purpose was not just to find Desmond but to bring fresh food and water to the people in the underwater hatch.

Also something that stuck out when Sayid first found out about Naomi... Remember his question to Desmond and the Losties? Did you actually see the helicopter crash? The answer was simple.... NO

I don’t think Desmond knew about the people in the underwater hatch when he offered to go in Charlie’s place but one thing is clear to me now.

Naomi is a LIAR and not to be trusted, she knew about the Island, the Others, Dharma and possibly even the Losties.

Ben knows about the people in the underwater station and that is why he said it is flooded. He wants no one to find them...