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What Anti-Spyware Program do you use for active monitoring?

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,767 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Yes, that's probably the case. Since coming overseas, I've realised that you can get a lot more capacity for less money in the USA.

    My biggest prob was not Kaspersky, but rather running Vista Ultimate for the first time. It's the king of resource hogs and ran much slower than XP-2 with less memory. They've got to be joking when they say you can minimally run Vista with 512 memory! Vista's now running faster, but only after I made several fine tuning adjustments.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭LilKitty


    My biggest prob was not Kaspersky, but rather running Vista Ultimate for the first time. It's the king of resource hogs and ran much slower than XP-2 with less memory. They've got to be joking when they say you can minimally run Vista with 512 memory! Vista's now running faster, but only after I made several fine tuning adjustments.
    Now that is a joke! Running Vista with anything less than 1G of RAM is madness:eek: and even then you'd really want a bit more. It's the most bloated version of Windows I've ever seen and much of that probably has to do with it's sleek new interface and all the bells and whistles Microsoft is so found of. Even if I had as much RAM as you and as good a graphics card I'd still stick with XP for a while yet. I prefer to wait until such an OS has been out for a few years and matured a bit.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,767 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    I was an early adopter, and am suffering through the bugs and patches. Thought about holding off as you are doing, but my last rig got a zero day worm that took it down, and looked like major surgery was required. Also found a deal over here on a new rig that was hard to resist.

    Word is that MS is already planning on a major revision to Vista with Vista-Figi, just like XP-2 was for XP, followed by a completely new (so they claim) OS called Vienna. Whatever timeline they proclaim will more than likely be delayed, so we are looking probably 2-4 years into the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭LilKitty


    I was an early adopter, and am suffering through the bugs and patches. Thought about holding off as you are doing, but my last rig got a zero day worm that took it down, and looked like major surgery was required. Also found a deal over here on a new rig that was hard to resist.

    Word is that MS is already planning on a major revision to Vista with Vista-Figi, just like XP-2 was for XP, followed by a completely new (so they claim) OS called Vienna. Whatever timeline they proclaim will more than likely be delayed, so we are looking probably 2-4 years into the future.
    Well let me tell you if I was a man I'd be wanting cosmetic surgery on well you know. I only have 250mb RAM and a crappy video card of 120bm RAM and to top it off I'm drunk. So am I only one who is a fan of Jim Beam? Seriously, as drunk as I am I can tell you be prepared to wait for at least a year for any major update to Vista. Long at Xp's history for example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭Blowfish


    LilKitty wrote:
    Well let me tell you if I was a man I'd be wanting cosmetic surgery on well you know. I only have 250mb RAM and a crappy video card of 120bm RAM and to top it off I'm drunk. So am I only one who is a fan of Jim Beam? Seriously, as drunk as I am I can tell you be prepared to wait for at least a year for any major update to Vista. Long at Xp's history for example.
    Quoted, so you can't go and edit it in the morning :p


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,767 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    LilKitty wrote:
    and to top it off I'm drunk. So am I only one who is a fan of Jim Beam? Seriously, as drunk as I am I can tell you be prepared to wait for at least a year for any major update to Vista. Long at Xp's history for example.
    Cheers to ye! Don't do the hard stuff too often, but when I do, I like Bushmills straight from a shooter. Understand your reluctance to be an early adopter. A lot of my apps that worked with XP-2 don't work with Vista.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,189 ✭✭✭_CreeD_


    I don't run any active scanners, beyond AVG's email scanner and the IPS functions of Comodo Firewall. I have AVG AV, Ewido, Spybot that are run about once a week. Prevention and Vigilance works better than any active scanner imho. I run Firefox with NoScript behind a PIX 501 firewall with Comodo set to application monitoring and IPS only. Have never had any issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭LilKitty


    _CreeD_ wrote:
    I don't run any active scanners, beyond AVG's email scanner and the IPS functions of Comodo Firewall. I have AVG AV, Ewido, Spybot that are run about once a week. Prevention and Vigilance works better than any active scanner imho. I run Firefox with NoScript behind a PIX 501 firewall with Comodo set to application monitoring and IPS only. Have never had any issues.
    Well you seem to have some pretty good protection from what you've said. Yes being careful on the net is better than just relying on security software or hardware but it's also better to have both.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 94,978 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    They've got to be joking when they say you can minimally run Vista with 512 memory!
    What to do you expect them to say, once you have bought a new PC or upgraded your old one they probably reckon you can go out and buy more RAM.

    These are the same guys who for windows 95 gave a minimum spec of 386 with 4MB ram.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 94,978 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Should really be a multiple choice poll

    Spybot Search & Destroy(TeaTimer)
    Windows Defender - more for registry / startup protection

    On the basis prevention is better than cure - FireFox with NoScript, AdBlock plus , Redirect Remover and other extensions > Opera > IE7


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭LilKitty


    Should really be a multiple choice poll

    Spybot Search & Destroy(TeaTimer)
    Windows Defender - more for registry / startup protection
    It shouldn't be in my opinion because running any of the programs on the poll at startup because this can very likely lead to conflicts and if you're running both these programs at startup well then you're actually undermining your computer's security.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,767 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    LilKitty wrote:
    It shouldn't be in my opinion because running any of the programs on the poll at startup because this can very likely lead to conflicts and if you're running both these programs at startup well then you're actually undermining your computer's security.
    Some programmes seem to be capatible, while others conflict? PC World, Wired, and Maximum PC have recommended that more than one spyware/adware/malware programme was needed (but not multiple AVs!), because no one programme catches them all. Some of these programmes are active, while others passive. The question is... can you have more than one active programme at startup? For example, Spybot S&D and Defender?

    Like Capt'n Midnight, I've been running mutliple active programmes at startup for quite some time. Admittedly, I had to sort through those that were compatible against those not, but now have a bundle that seems to work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭LilKitty


    Some programmes seem to be capatible, while others conflict? PC World, Wired, and Maximum PC have recommended that more than one spyware/adware/malware programme was needed (but not multiple AVs!), because no one programme catches them all. Some of these programmes are active, while others passive. The question is... can you have more than one active programme at startup? For example, Spybot S&D and Defender?

    Like Capt'n Midnight, I've been running mutliple active programmes at startup for quite some time. Admittedly, I had to sort through those that were compatible against those not, but now have a bundle that seems to work.

    Ok I think you missed my point. I was talking about the programs in the poll and when a person is running more than one with a resident shield. It is a great idea to have at least 2 of these programs but not both with resident shields enabled. From what you said you were using earlier that doesn't count towards what I was saying because they weren't even on the list and they are a slightly different type of active protection. Look for example running Teatimer and Windows Defender at startup together is not a good idea.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,970 ✭✭✭ActorSeeksJob


    yeah running something like windows defender/teatimer/spywareguard at startup will lead to conflicts, the same way running two firewalls will. new beta version of spybot out btw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭LilKitty


    yeah running something like windows defender/teatimer/spywareguard at startup will lead to conflicts, the same way running two firewalls will. new beta version of spybot out btw
    Running SpywareGuard with any of the programs in the poll is ok because of how it works, the same goes for SpywareBlaster.


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