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Top 101 PC Games of All time

  • 10-05-2007 11:27am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,912 ✭✭✭


    As the title says, :D:)
    The following arent my votes or opinions, but as voted and printed in PC Zone (the Best gaming PC mag out there :) )

    Took me ages to write this :p

    101. Blood
    100. Starsiege Tribes
    99. Need for Speed Most Wanted
    98. Chronicles of Riddick : Escape from Butcher Bay
    97. N
    96. Worms
    95. Nethack
    94. Hidden and Dangerous 2
    93. Hitman Blood Money
    92. Grand Prix Legends
    91. Splinter Cell
    90. Silent Hunter 3
    89. Sid Meir's : Pirates
    88. Supreme Commander
    87. Grim Fandango
    86. Cave Story
    85. Rollercoaster Tycoon 3
    84. Descent
    83. Soldier of Fortune 2
    82. Indiana Jone : Fate of Atlantis
    81. The Movies
    80. Clive Barkers Undying
    79. F.E.A.R
    78. Team Fortress Classic
    77. Frontier Elite 2
    76. NoOne Lives Forever 2
    75. Final Fantasy 7
    74. The Longest Journey
    73. Uplink
    72. Total Annihilation
    71. Fahrenheit
    70. Warhammer 40k : Dawn of War
    69. STALKER : Shadow of Chernobyl
    68. Trackmania United
    67. Garrys Mod
    66. Sim City 2000
    65. Swat 4
    64. X3 : Reunion
    63. Prince of Persia : Sands of Time
    62. Dungeon Keeper
    61. Planescape Torment
    60. Age of Empire
    59. Starcraft
    58. The Fighter
    57. Guild Wars
    56. Neverwinter Nights
    55. Thief : Deadly Shadows
    54. Tomb Raider
    53. Medal of Honor : Allied Assault
    52. Everquest
    51. The Sims 2
    50. Carmageddon 2 : Carpocalypse Now
    49. Star Wars : Jedi Knight - Dark Forces 2
    48. Syndicate
    47. Beyond Good and Evil
    46. Black and White
    45. Alien vrs Predator 2
    44. Commandos 2 : Men of Courage
    43. X-Com : UFO Defence
    42. Command and Conquer
    41. Quake
    40. Duke Nukem 3d
    39. Warcraft 3 : Reign of Chaos
    38. Microsoft Flight Sim 2007
    37. Sam and Max Hit the Road
    36. Pyschonauts
    35. IL-2 Sturmovik : 1946
    34. Pro Evolution 6
    33. Battlefield 1942
    32. GTR 2
    31. Ultima 7 : The Black Gate
    30. Far Cry
    29. Wing Commander 4 : The Price of Freedom
    28. Vampire : The Masquerade -Bloodlines
    27. Mafia
    26. Counter Strike Source
    25. Diablo 2
    24. Call of Duty
    23. Baldurs Gate 2 : Shadows of Amn
    22. Star Wars : KOTOR
    21. Fallout
    20. Eve Online
    19. Quake 3 : Arena
    18. Operation Flashpoint
    17. Company of Heroes
    16. Max Payne 2 : The fall of Max Payne
    15. World of Warcraft
    14. Football Manager 2007
    13. The Elder Scrolls IV : Oblivion
    12. Unreal Tournament 2004
    11. GTA : Vice City






    And the Top 10 !!!!!!:eek:




    10. The Secret of Monkey Island
    9. Battlefield 2
    8. DooM
    7. System Shock 2
    6. Rome : Total War
    5. Half Life
    4. The Elder Scrolls III : Morrowind
    3. Civilisation IV
    2. Half Life 2






    And the winner is






    1. Deus Ex


    Let the debate begin :)


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    Far Cry at number 30???? Deus Ex at number 1??? This immediately renders this list invalid! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 432 ✭✭Duras


    Nice list... however I think it has few flaws... Brilliant games like KOTOR2 and Arcanum are not there...

    Also the oldies and goldies.... Sam&Max is in the list but Day of the Tentacle is not there??

    Talking about oldies, how come Simon the Sorcerer is not in the list?

    Also Half Lives are waaaaaaaay overrated.

    Shame on me, I never played Deus Ex so I can say nothing on that :(

    It is very difficult to say which is the best game ever that I played, but it is probably be one of: KOTOR, KOTOR2, Arcanum and Oblivion.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,019 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Would be lying if I said Id played alot of the games on the list - probably only around 15 of them.
    But the top two would probably be exactly the same if I was to write it (maybe switched around order-wise).
    But I'll be honest - I nearly stopped reading when the first game I saw was Need for Speed.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Warcraft III should be higher, and with the sequel, number 1.
    That or morrowind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭Iompair


    A wing commander game but no Tie Fighter!
    A lot of good games on the list though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭muppetkiller


    Not a bad list I thinK i have all but 5 of them ..mainly the online ones Ultima and everquest.
    But having AVP2 there and not AVP1 is just silly . AVP2 was woeful by comparrison to the first one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,465 ✭✭✭MOH


    Surprised Max Payne 2 is on there but not the original.

    Bought them both again a couple of weeks ago, most of the way through the second now, but although the graphics are way better on it, I prefeered the first one.
    The storyline in the first one was better. It had a couple of neat little puzzles to progress, didn't hold you up too long but involved a bit of thought. Quite a few popular culture references, which haven't really dated that much. And it introduced 'bullet time' and variable difficulty. Only downside was there were a couple of places where the gameplay got a bit repetitive, but the same can be said for the second one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭Loco


    Duras wrote:
    Nice list... however I think it has few flaws... Brilliant games like KOTOR2 and Arcanum are not there...

    KOTOR2 was pants. developers were rushed to release it, half the stories amounted to nothing and there was so many bugs! there was forums taken down it got so much bad press!

    loved KOTOR but KOTOR2 took the piss. Money grabbing b4stards!

    Glad to see Fallout there at 21, fallout1&2 were best rpgs ever! Better than ff7!

    Bought Deus Ex but never got into it. too dark and boring. cant believe its number 1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭Nuttzz


    m1 tank platoon from microprose back in 1990 was a ground breaking game imho, pah kids what would they know!! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭tungsten


    wheres me delta force??:eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Like Muppetkiller I've all but 5 of them (and yet my family think I've achieved nothing in life...)

    Can't believe Half-Life 2 is ranked higher than 1. There is no way in hell that that is right. The first one revolutionised how FPS's were designed and played. HL2 had fancy physics. Not fair at all :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭DemocAnarchis


    Dawn of War higher than Total Annihilation? For shame. Don't agree with Oblivion being so high either, vastly overrated game.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,282 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Decent list, although i'd have Baldurs Gate 2 up higher.

    I'm also guessing no. 58, 'The Fighter' is supposed to be 'Tie Fighter'?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,258 ✭✭✭swingking


    em.... where's lemmings? a briliant game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,912 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Agree with our top 101 ? VIOLENTLY Disagree ? Feek a desire to rant at a game's exclusion ? Then join the debate at http://www.pczone.co.uk or fire off an email to letters@pczone.co.uk


    :p:p

    Maybe they can answer all this...why aint my game here there and everywhere business :cool: :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭User45701


    NO

    There is only 1 cnc game and thats at no 42.
    There is no KOTOR
    There is no Tie figher

    NO NO NO i dont even want to know what else is missing from the list

    No star trek games
    Armada
    Birth Of The Federation

    whoever said lemmings was right aswell im in work so cant try to help add more to the list but ill try to think of a few when i get home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,912 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    User45701 wrote:
    NO
    There is no KOTOR

    Check no.22 ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭Blowfish


    heh, can't believe nethack made it in there :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    Ah good old Blood by Monolith (I think) at 101. I still play it from time to time. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Timans


    CSS is better than BF2.

    :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 276 ✭✭Dregon


    battlefield 1942 only at 33, battlefield 2 at nine and no mention of bfv?

    pfff


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭Thomas_S_Hunterson


    Where is Solitaire?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 936 ✭✭✭Beecher


    Undying and Grim Fandango should be way higher :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Smellyirishman


    Freespace 2 anyone? Feck off with your Tie Fighter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,005 ✭✭✭Creature


    Good to see Ultima 7: The Black Gate get a mention. I'd probably put Baldur's Gate 2 as my No. 1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,579 ✭✭✭BopNiblets


    Reminds me, I have a lot of freaking games to play, only played about 30 of them, and dabbled with about 9 others in small doses (not finished or whatever).
    JC Denton: I know your UNATCO killphrase: Laputan machine.
    Gunther Hermann: I am not a mach ...
    JC Denton: Sticks and stones...
    *Hermann kerplodes*
    Awesome.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,406 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    What the hell is soldier of fortune 2 even doing on that list. Awful stuff altogether. Mechwarrior 2 should be in it and Starcraft should be far higher. Half-life was a far better game than 2. GTA doesn't deserve to be sharing the list with a lot of games let alone being no. 11. Both Max Payne games are samey repetitive gash with a dreadful storyline.

    Other than that not a bad old list and nice to see the underrated Descent, Blood and Undying on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Timans


    Retr0gamer wrote:
    What the hell is soldier of fortune 2 even doing on that list. Awful stuff altogether. Mechwarrior 2 should be in it and Starcraft should be far higher. Half-life was a far better game than 2. GTA doesn't deserve to be sharing the list with a lot of games let alone being no. 11. Both Max Payne games are samey repetitive gash with a dreadful storyline.

    Other than that not a bad old list and nice to see the underrated Descent, Blood and Undying on it.

    Is it just me or does that sound like a Metal Band?

    :p


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,406 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Timans wrote:
    Is it just me or does that sound like a Metal Band?

    :p

    I bagsy it!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Timans


    Retr0gamer wrote:
    I bagsy it!
    It's spelt bagsie!

    You haven't played bagsie spooney before, have you?

    :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭Kevster


    God damn! He puts The Elder Scrolls III : Morrowind at position 4 and I turned down the chance to buy it today for €12. I'll have to go back again and get it :rolleyes:


    The best - going by number of hours played - is Championship Manager 03/04 followed by Civilisation II.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,282 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Tie Fighter is in there...no. 58. At least i'm assuming its Tie Fighter, as any game called 'The Fighter' cant be good. And ya, Freespace 2 should be there too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭bluto63


    FF7 and Black & White need to be further up the list. Baldurs Gate 2 needs to be put on the list. Half Life needs to be moved down the list(don't see the big deal). Lemmings and Day of the Tentacle need to be put on the list.

    I just don't agree with this at all...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    half-life should be higher than half-life 2

    and no cs1.6??

    tbh find me a game that was more popular and more addictive as that...(no not warcraft :p)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭User45701


    Cremo wrote:
    half-life should be higher than half-life 2

    and no cs1.6??

    tbh find me a game that was more popular and more addictive as that...(no not warcraft :p)

    If your going to to different versions of games why not make it CS 1.3?
    or even before 1.3 maybe one of the beta's like when the siege had that vehicle.

    And again i have to mention it no star trek games? no botf or Armada 1


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,465 ✭✭✭MOH


    Kevster wrote:
    God damn! He puts The Elder Scrolls III : Morrowind at position 4 and I turned down the chance to buy it today for €12. I'll have to go back again and get it :rolleyes:

    I just bought it Saturday - 7 or 8 quid in Xtravision.

    Thought Far Cry should be a bit higher.

    And Stalker?! I really wanted to like that game, and forgave it a lot initially, but the bugs ruined it in the end.


  • Legal Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 5,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭Maximilian


    The lack of Daikatana on that list completely destroys its credibility.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 432 ✭✭Duras


    I just remembered.... there is another famous oldie which was not included in the top 101. Another World... Don't tell me that you don't know/like it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    Plenty of stuff to disagree with, but that's inevitable with these (opinion) lists, everyone will always disagree with something on it.

    I'm really glad VTM: Bloodlines is on the list though, and that high :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭kmick


    Sid Meiers Pirates - did anyone actually buy that game? Half life 2 better than 1 thats like saying Water is better than alchohol.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭stagolee


    good to see Mafia in there at #27, it had its faults but it was a great game with an amazing soundtrack:cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Smellyirishman


    Retr0gamer wrote:
    soldier of fortune 2

    The multiplayer was superb. Plus; gratuitous violence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    koneko wrote:
    I'm really glad VTM: Bloodlines is on the list though, and that high :)

    Yeah, shocked at that one myself, I really loved it, but it seemed to have been mostly hated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,956 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    That top 100 is very dodgy.
    No Return to Castle Wolfenstein plus many other glaring omissions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭legs11


    that list is fcunked

    grim fandango is more like top 10 material, one of the all time great adventures games like that now are not made no more which is a shame

    also the original commandos was brilliant. alot of games now are totally rubbish!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,441 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    Shambles of a list to be honest. I know it is nigh on impossible to do a good list like this but this has to be one of the poorest efforts I have ever come across.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭bizmark


    Yeah, shocked at that one myself, I really loved it, but it seemed to have been mostly hated.


    Every one iv talked to that played vampire the masquerade bloodlines loved it....one of the best games ever tbh

    Eve online should be first though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭BKtje


    How were they judging games tho? storyline, playability, graphicsm singleplayer, multiplayer, genre first type thing or just kinda whatever they felt like?

    Overall i gotta agree that the list is majorly flawed.
    Wing Commander 4? Wing commander 1/2 and privateer were far superior.
    WoW, a game that has over six million online players currently (far more than that have played it) comes only 15th?
    UT2K4 but not the original?
    Doom but no wolf3d?

    Only time i really kinda "respect" these lists are when they clearly state how they judge games.

    For the record i have played 44 of the games in the list :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


    B-K-DzR wrote:
    How were they judging games tho? storyline, playability, graphicsm singleplayer, multiplayer, genre first type thing or just kinda whatever they felt like?
    Read votes I think.

    TBH I think these lists should be taken as the top 101 games in no particular order as the more popular games always end up at the top even if some of the excellent niche games would be considered better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    User45701 wrote:
    If your going to to different versions of games why not make it CS 1.3?
    or even before 1.3 maybe one of the beta's like when the siege had that vehicle.

    And again i have to mention it no star trek games? no botf or Armada 1

    well i just said 1.6 as it's the latest version of counter-strike. source is no way near as popular or addictive - and probably won't be in my opinion - as counter strike on the hl1 engine.


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