the libary

gary the great

What way do libaries work? If i write a book I want people to buy it so i make money, but if it goes to a libary everyoen can read it without paying for it! How does that work!?

aidan_walsh

gary_the_great wrote:

What way do libaries work?

Sharing information. Also, best seller lists would suggest that the arse hasn't quite fallen out of book sales just yet.

Goodshape

'Books'.. pffft.. that'll never catch on.

iguana

I have read books from the library that I enjoyed so much I went out and bought the book so I could have my own copy. I might never have considered it if I had not had the opportunity to buy it. Libraries also encourage people to read and as such improve literacy. When I was a kid I used to go to the library once or twice a week to borrow books. Now I buy several books a week, if I hadn't developed a love of reading as a child I wouldn't buy books as often as I do.

mikemac

Got a letter stating I've to serve a one year ban from all Dublin City librarys for leaving 4 books back 3 months late.:(
Meh, I deserved it.

Excellent tip for ye.
Go to your local St. Vincent DePaul or other charity shop.

My local one sells books for 50c each and I just give them back when I'm finished.

Ghost Train

the library buys your book.
if you cant spell library, you might have trouble writing a book.

simu

And: http://outofthejungle.blogspot.com/2005/08/library-royalties-for-writers-in.html

Zebra3

eolhc wrote:

if you cant spell library, you might have trouble writing a book.

Chinafoot

eolhc wrote:

the library buys your book.

Exactly.

If you had written a book would you seriously object to it being in a library?

Also, libraries aren't just about books these days.

Thrill

Book? What the hell's a book?

/googles/

Ahh, those things. They built a library near me recently. It's full of those
book thingys plus you can access the interweb there.

Would there be restrictions on what can be accessed there?
Like Boards.ie for instance.:)

Miss Fluff

gary the great wrote:

What way do libaries work? If i write a book I want people to buy it so i make money, but if it goes to a libary everyoen can read it without paying for it! How does that work!?

I honestly wouldn't worry or lose too much sleep over it love. Most LIBRARIES accept books of a certain standard, I believe being able to spell helps so I'm sure EVERYONE will be able to manage with what is there already....:rolleyes:

Newaglish

gary the great wrote:

What way do libaries work? If i write a book I want people to buy it so i make money, but if it goes to a libary everyoen can read it without paying for it! How does that work!?

Trust me, even in a "libary", I don't think people will be rushing to read this book

Time Magazine

You're legally obliged to provide copies of your books to certain libraries for free.

Chinafoot

thrill wrote:

Would there be restrictions on what can be accessed there?
Like Boards.ie for instance.:)

No problems accessing boards.ie from the library interwebs as far as I'm aware. At least not in Fingal County Council libraries anyway. Staff are blocked from it though. (*weeps*)

There are the obvious restrictions on pornography and chat rooms.

Zebra3

Ibid wrote:

You're legally obliged to provide copies of your books to certain libraries for free.

Any books printed in Ireland have to provide a copy to the British Library by law.

Time Magazine

Zebra3 wrote:

Any books printed in Ireland have to provide a copy to the British Library by law.

And any books printed in Britain have to provide a copy to the Trinity library.

BuffyBot

gary the great wrote:

What way do libaries work? If i write a book I want people to buy it so i make money, but if it goes to a libary everyoen can read it without paying for it! How does that work!?

You should go to a liberry tomorry and ask.

tolosenc

What's a 'libary'?

gary the great

That was really retarded of me to spell LIBRARY wrong :-) as i was spelling it I was looking at it asking myself if it was spelt correct! Its just one of them words I could never spell correctly until now.

Anyway I dont have a book or anything, i was just thinking about it whilst reading a book when the author mentioned that he reckons he loses a fortune by people reading his books through borrowing them from a library! So i just thought i'd ask.

I presume video shops work in a different way, as in everytime the video is rented the film company get a loyalty?

aidan_walsh

gary_the_great wrote:

loyalty

Royalty.

Overheal

When I was in elementary school we had a Libeary because our mascot was a Teddy Bear....speaking of stupid methods of edumacation.

insafehands

gary the great wrote:

That was really retarded of me to spell LIBRARY wrong :-) as i was spelling it I was looking at it asking myself if it was spelt correct! Its just one of them words I could never spell correctly until now.

Anyway I dont have a book or anything, i was just thinking about it whilst reading a book when the author mentioned that he reckons he loses a fortune by people reading his books through borrowing them from a library! So i just thought i'd ask.

I presume video shops work in a different way, as in everytime the video is rented the film company get a loyalty?

Think you mean "royalty". And I doubt it; but I could be wrong; but I doubt that too.

robinph

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robinph

Ibid wrote:

You're legally obliged to provide copies of your books to certain libraries for free.

Any books published in the UK or Ireland have to be provided to Trinity, Oxford and Cambridge University libraries, something to do with their Royal charters or some such..

robinph

gary the great wrote:

I presume video shops work in a different way, as in everytime the video is rented the film company get a loyalty?

The rental copies are just a lot more expensive to buy than regular copies. One of the online rental places that started up recently here got in a dispute with the movie companies because they went down HMV and bought a load of copies of films that they couldn't get from the publisher directly or for a cheap a price.

Goodshape

robinph wrote:

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Good point.



(I'll be here all week folks! Try the soup, it's wonderful!)

Miss Fluff

gary the great wrote:

I was looking at it asking myself if it was spelt correct!

Correctly. Spelt "correctly".......:rolleyes:

o1s1n

micmclo wrote:

Got a letter stating I've to serve a one year ban from all Dublin City librarys for leaving 4 books back 3 months late.:(
Meh, I deserved it.

Excellent tip for ye.
Go to your local St. Vincent DePaul or other charity shop.

My local one sells books for 50c each and I just give them back when I'm finished.

I've an even better one. Find your local recycling plant. There's one quite close to where I live. It has a 10ft long book case stacked with stuff. You can take as much from/add as much to it as you want for free.

Smellyirishman

Miss Fluff wrote:

Correctly. Spelt "correctly".......:rolleyes:

Relax, he has already said that it is not he who plans on releasing the next top seller. Sheesh, go join the Czechs. :rolleyes:

ODS

Chinafoot wrote:

No problems accessing boards.ie from the library interwebs as far as I'm aware. At least not in Fingal County Council libraries anyway. Staff are blocked from it though. (*weeps*)

Ah unfortunately you are incorrect - at least regardong Dublin City Councils' Gilbert library on Pearse St
Its a great spot for free wifi, but I couldnt believe it when my lappy was barred from accessing boards :eek:

(Btw the Chartbusters outlets - in Donnybrook at least - also won't allow access from their €2 per 15 mins computers to either boards or refdesk.com - I just quit after 4 mins and wont stop there again.)

InFront

robinph wrote:

Any books published in the UK or Ireland have to be provided to Trinity, Oxford and Cambridge University libraries, something to do with their Royal charters or some such..

Yeah that's true, but there's some clause or other which means that in reality, it doesn't actually happen. I can't remember the details... something like they have a right to each book, but they don't actually physically own a copy.

ODS

InFront wrote:

Yeah that's true, but there's some clause or other which means that in reality, it doesn't actually happen. I can't remember the details... something like they have a right to each book, but they don't actually physically own a copy.

Beg to differ - afaik Trinity does keep copies of such printed matter; in the past I had to go sourcing a Sunday Tribune article from c1990, which happily they were able to furnish a day or two later. I think storage may be in warehouses out near the Dublin airport - or so Ive heard.

phantom_lord

yeah, they they have a big storage facility somewhere in the city for the books they haven't got space for in the library. I'm almost certain they get a copy of every book published in ireland and britain.

http://www.tcd.ie/Library/about/index.php

And... http://www.tcd.ie/Library/libraries/collections.php#santry

Rudolph Claus

Miss Fluff wrote:

Correctly. Spelt "correctly".......:rolleyes:

If you`re gonna go around and correct every single one of his posts for spelling mistakes, i seriously suggest you change your little sig:
"Sticks and Stones may Break her Bones,
but Whips and Chains EXCITE her"

If your boring enough to corrrect spelling mistakes i doubt you`d be excited by whips and chains. And seen as your fond of rolling eyes :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


I reckon the mods of boards.ie should start clamping down on the boardsee spelling police, fair enough for hassling someone over using txt slang, but correcting little spelling mistakes is sad and stinks of political correctness, political correctness being something I absolutely detest in people. Ill start a new thread about this with a poll

mkennedy

the op's "everyoen" was obviously a typo not a spelling mistake.

DonkeyStyle \o/

Nuttzy wrote:

I reckon the mods of boards.ie should start clamping down on the boardsee spelling police

Yeah and replace all instances of 'rolleyes' with pictures of humorous cats.

Tar.Aldarion

Yes, I'll clamp down on those pesky grammar monkeys any second now.

DonkeyStyle \o/

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

Yes, I'll clamp down on those pesky grammar monkeys any second now.

You can't refer to them as monkeys, that's racist. :humorouscat:

looksee

Nuttzy wrote:

And seen as your fond of rolling eyes :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

And seeing as you're fond of rolling eyes.......

It's still not good English but I wouldn't like to come across as picky

themole

gary the great wrote:

I presume video shops work in a different way, as in everytime the video is rented the film company get a loyalty?

From talking to a friend who worked in a video rental place the cost used to be around £50 per video. Fixed cost. Anything after that was the profit. The prive will have changed but it will still be fixed.

As said before they pay a higer cost as it includes the ability to rent the tape/disc.

Catari Jaguar

"as you'll notice, I no longer say libary or tommorry."


Report in the paper recently said less and less books are being checked out but the places are more packed than ever because of the interweb.

Libraries loan out CDs too. You just rip them to your computer. Surely that can't be legal??

angeldelight

I'm not sure if it has come in here yet but I was flicking through the channels a few weeks ago and came across an interview with Jacqueline Wilson and she was saying that it's just changed in the UK so that the authors get a tiny amount now each time their book is checked out. Quite good for her, as her books are the most checked out books in British libraries by quite some distance!

ruprect

ODS wrote:

Beg to differ - afaik Trinity does keep copies of such printed matter; in the past I had to go sourcing a Sunday Tribune article from c1990, which happily they were able to furnish a day or two later. I think storage may be in warehouses out near the Dublin airport - or so Ive heard.

I heard of this too, maybe in the US or something. But are papers and magazines considered "books" or what is the legal definition. I remember hearing it in the US or something that they would have to hang on to ALL publications including playboys or hardcore porn. You got the sunday tribune, could you get the daily sport from 1988?

Surely there is some limit, or is there really some guy in a warehouse full of millions of jazz mags?

ruprect

Lil Kitten wrote:

Libraries loan out CDs too. You just rip them to your computer. Surely that can't be legal??

Well it is illegal to photocopy most books too. In the ilac you have to pay a year sub for the cds, this goes towards buying new ones too. Most are scratched beyond belief. I mentioned to them they should get a burner and only hand out copies and reburn once scratched. Not sure if it is legal to hold one burnt copy (thought I heard that somewhere). A library should be allowed IMO.

I bet many go in with a laptop, take out the max discs, rip there and then and get more 30mins later. Spend a day in there and you would get a fair amount, dunno what they would say. Lots of classical music in there.

Unshelved

Trinity Library is legally entitled to everything published in Great Britain and Ireland so they take all the books and a selection of the periodicals. Out of all the UK copyright libraries (those libraries entitled to books published in the UK) I think only the British Library takes everything. To the best of my knowledge, the others - Oxford, Cambridge, National Library of Scotland, National Library of Wales - take a selection because of space and storage restrictions. The cost of processing and storing the material greatly outweighs the cost of the material itself.

Only about 15% of Trinity Library's material is actually on open access where you can see it - everything else is in storage. You can access the Library's catalogue from their webpage - www.tcd.ie/library .

Several Irish libraries are copyright libraries for Ireland - that is they are entitled to a copy of everything published here. They include Trinity again, UCD, the National Library, Queens, NUI Maynooth, UCC and UCG.

Chinafoot

ODS wrote:

Ah unfortunately you are incorrect - at least regardong Dublin City Councils' Gilbert library on Pearse St
Its a great spot for free wifi, but I couldnt believe it when my lappy was barred from accessing boards :eek:

Weird. Works in Fingal County Council libraries.