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English Predictions

  • 07-05-2007 4:25pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35


    hi, im new to this and I was just wondering what other teachers in other schools are predicting to come up this year. My prediction is as follows:
    The single text:Macbeth, Kingship/the plays relevence in the 21st centuary or Macbeth/Lady Macbeth
    The Comparative:Theme/Issue and general vision and viewpoint
    Poetry:I personally hope Monatague but its nearly a guarantee that one of the female poets will be up.
    Everyone seems to be saying plath but there is a strong chance Bishop could be up as the have asked Plath two years in a row a few years back and the same with bishop.
    Any opinions?
    Im a repeat btw!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 482 ✭✭Steve01


    The relevance of Macbeth in the 21st century?? I dunno where'd I'd even start if I had to answer that one :rolleyes:
    I'd say Cultural Context is more likely to appear than Theme or Issue for the comparative, not that I have any basis for saying that.
    As far as poetry goes I'm hoping Plath will come up since I've put so much effort into learning her stuff. Allegedly Plath and Montague are the most highly tipped for the paper this year, so if you want to be really economical learn them inside out and ignore the other 6. I'd be very surprised if neither of them came up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 sully88


    thanks, our teacher is really tipping the relevence of macbeth in the 21st centuary to be there. I dont know what thats based on though! Last year i was told for definate a question was going to be on the paper for the single text at an easter revision course, so i learnded off an A grade answer. But of course it didint come up. So dont put all your eggs in one basket or you could have to do this again like me!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Haven't a Clue


    English is probably the most unreliable thing to give any tips on. Like, there's no way in hell of knowing what will come up as there doesn't seem to be much of a pattern. The only lucky thing is that there isn't a whole lot they can ask you on Macbeth..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭sternn


    There's no way you can predict what is going to come up. Ok...there has been an irish poet and a woman poet up every year. You never know..they may change it/ not decide to put them on. And as for macbeth, its so hard to predict for that. All you can do is learn quotes, have some notes on kingship, magic, relationships, and each of the main characters and i would say you would get away with that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭Donald-Duck


    English is probably the most unreliable thing to give any tips on. Like, there's no way in hell of knowing what will come up as there doesn't seem to be much of a pattern. The only lucky thing is that there isn't a whole lot they can ask you on Macbeth..
    Wait...what?
    You can't predicate exact questions but you can save yourself a lot of time.

    For example, for the comparative, you'd be pretty safe just learning general viewpoint and vision. Because theme/issue and CC came up last year.

    And for poetry, Plath is the more likely of the female poets because shes only come up twice, and bishop three times including last year. Montague is also a good bet because its his first or last year on the course( I can't remember)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 817 ✭✭✭md99


    Montague Plath Kavanagh Frost....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭Limerick Dude


    Montague SHOULD come up, his last year on the course and he hasnt come up yet....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,504 ✭✭✭Nehpets


    I'd love Frost to come up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 817 ✭✭✭md99


    Montague SHOULD come up, his last year on the course and he hasnt come up yet....

    LOL, it's his last year again now? I thought it was his first...then his last....which is it, seriously??:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭cocoa


    or you could go and find out >_>

    In fact, it's neither his last nor his first, he was on in 2002 but didn't make it onto the paper. He is also on the syllabus for next year.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 eimear89


    Poetry: Kavanagh, Montague, Frost and definitely Plath. There's only two female poets on the course and Bishop was up last year

    Comparative: general vision + viewpoint and cultural context. Theme/Issue is unlikely seeing as it's been up two years running.

    Macbeth: erm, the usual I suppose. Imagery, appearance vs. reality, characters etc. This is the question I'm worrying about


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,715 ✭✭✭marco murphy


    Maybe I'm mad, but does this board contain last years predictions?
    Iam too lazy but who wants to see if last years predictions actually came through


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭inverted_world


    Just a general caveat in regards predictions for the English paper: don't rely on them too heavily. Especially with the first year/last year on the course logic. The same poets have been used in various combinations on the LC course for years, so it's never their last year on the course. With famale poets, that one in impossible. I remember when I was doing mine, everyone had learnt the same famale poet because she hadn't come up in previous years, and it was her "last year" on the course. She didn't come up, leaving a lot of people feeling a bit silly.

    All bets off, if you do three poets one of them will come up. Do whatever you feel most comfortable with. There is no point in studying a poet you simply cannot grasp just because everyone thinks they will come up. The same goes for the single text and comp. studies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,504 ✭✭✭Nehpets


    Everyone is saying Plath will come up. It could be Bishop. Plath had a double whammy 03, 04


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭cocoa


    All bets off, if you do three poets one of them will come up.
    what? That's not true at all, it's likely, certainly, especially if you choose three highly tipped poets, but not definite, not by a long shot. Study five poets, one of them will come up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    plath frost montague kavanagh

    Bam!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 parky1303


    Hey. I may be insane but i've decided that they'res just too much on the english course to be learning on top of every other subject soooo....

    -For poetry, I'm ONLY learning Plath because if you make a list of what female poet came up every year, you'll see that if bishop came up again, it wud look a bit too patterned. I know they mighn't even give a female poet, but sher whats life without the risk...

    -For comparitive, I'm only learning Theme or Issue to A-Grade and i'll skim over General Vision and Viewpoint just in case, but if you make a list of what came up over the years, it seems much more likely that a combination of T&I / GV&V is coming up.

    -I will say that Macbeth is the least predictable because there's such a large scope of possible questions, But I'm tipping (in order of likelyhood) Kingship, Lady Macbeth, The witches influence in macbeths downfall, Relevance in the 21 century and know a rough character sketch of macbeth banquo and macduff.

    And that's it my friends


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭Donald-Duck


    Maybe I'm mad, but does this board contain last years predictions?
    Iam too lazy but who wants to see if last years predictions actually came through
    They did, mine did anyway. I got every poet right last year, and the topics for the comparative.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 curious girl


    They did, mine did anyway. I got every poet right last year, and the topics for the comparative.

    Would be grateful if you would make predictions for what poet is coming up in 2007 from the following poets: Donne, Eliot,Kavanagh, Yeats, Montague Plath, Bishop and Frost. Also on The Comparatives are Theme/ Issue, General Vision and Viewpoint and Cultural Context, whish 2 do you think?
    Thanks ;):)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Copper_90210


    nobody has really mentioned yeats yet! i'm really counting on him. has anyone any reasons why he shouldn't come up?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭KarmaCreep


    nobody has really mentioned yeats yet! i'm really counting on him. has anyone any reasons why he shouldn't come up?

    He's the most recent of the Irish poets to come up. My predictions are Plath (token female and Bishop was up last year), Montague (he has never come up and is the only living poet), Frost (it's been a while) and Kavanagh (again it's been a while and he'll be the token Irish). However since Yeats didn't come up last year there is still a chance he'll come up this year but i wouldn't emphasize on him. Run through the papers and make your own educated guess, you don't always have to follow your teacher's opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 198 ✭✭shazzyshaz


    nobody has really mentioned yeats yet! i'm really counting on him. has anyone any reasons why he shouldn't come up?

    cos hes boring. and no one likes him. and he wroted about swans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭Donald-Duck


    shazzyshaz wrote:
    cos hes boring. and no one likes him. and he wroted about swans.

    Oh dear god.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 198 ✭✭shazzyshaz


    Oh dear god.
    calm. it was a joke. my english is perfectly fine:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭ZorbaTehZ


    Yeats/Kavanagh with Plath/Frost to come up I hope.
    Ideally I'd like to be writing about Kavanagh though, easiest by far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭genericgoon


    I always wondered why Donne never gets mentioned. Is it because he's been up recently or what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,418 ✭✭✭curry-muff


    My bets are on:

    Single Text - Macbeth: Evil or Witches Significance
    Comparitive: General Vision and Viewpoint
    Poetry: Montague/Plath


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭KarmaCreep


    I always wondered why Donne never gets mentioned. Is it because he's been up recently or what?

    Yep. Last Year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭KarmaCreep


    curry-muff wrote:
    My bets are on:

    Single Text - Macbeth: Evil or Witches Significance
    Comparitive: General Vision and Viewpoint
    Poetry: Montague/Plath

    Sounds quite plausible.

    I got A2s on Montague, Plath and General Vision and Viewpoint so fingers crossed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭genericgoon


    Thats alright I didnt really engage with his poetry tbh. Style over substance FTL. Yeats, Kavanagh, Frost or Montague would be preferable. Plath is ok but the whole depression thing is kinda overpowering when writing about her and then youll probably answering the same as most other people by refering to the darker side of her poetry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 185 ✭✭Diamond007


    I hope Frost comes up.. Will there always be a 'character question' on Macbeth as single text??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Enemy Of Fate


    Am hoping for Plath, Kavanagh, Monatgue and Yeats for the Poetry, and I don't really care about the other sections.Something on the character of Macbeth would be preferrable I guess, and a question on ''Themes and Issues'' for the comparitive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭Donald-Duck


    Would be grateful if you would make predictions for what poet is coming up in 2007 from the following poets: Donne, Eliot,Kavanagh, Yeats, Montague Plath, Bishop and Frost. Also on The Comparatives are Theme/ Issue, General Vision and Viewpoint and Cultural Context, whish 2 do you think?
    Thanks ;):)

    I'd say theme/issue and general vision. And the poets I think I listed in this topic, or another english one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 David Fouhy


    holy crap. whats this about kingship?????? how can i get notes on it????:confused: :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 482 ✭✭Steve01


    My ideal Paper 2 would consist of kingship, cultural context and Plath. And any old unseen poem (why do they still put this on the course?)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭blondie07


    hey everyone,
    what in the name of god do you say for a question on that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 280 ✭✭SamHamilton


    Significence of "Macbeth" in the 21st century
    hey everyone,
    what in the name of god do you say for a question on that?

    Talk about human nature, primarily through the character Macbeth if you're particularly strong on him. Macbeth's ambition is his downfall and the idea of gaining power corrupts him. That facet of human nature hasn't changed and is still part of people today.

    You could bring in pretty much everything. People seem to have a lot of work done on kingship. So take that, you could say kingship has the potential of good or evil and that people in a position of power can change a country etc. which can all be applied to today's world.

    There's some stuff written on this is the thread: "Macbeth: what to study" you should check it out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 428 ✭✭Selphie


    holy crap. whats this about kingship?????? how can i get notes on it????:confused: :eek:

    Any Macbeth revision book.
    What you have to talk about is: the importance of the role of the King in that society (head of the society, God's representative on Earth, represented goodness and justice etc.etc) The theme of kingship is so significant that Shakespeare provides four versions of it.
    Then give an account of Duncan's reign; say how he is a prime force of goodness in the play, list his features. He shows many of the features sought by Malcolm in Act 4. His murder by Macbeth was therefore sacrilegious and really terrible, lead on to give an account of Macbeth's awful reign. Contrast his badness with King Edward's greatness. Then finally give a description of Malcolm, and say that with a true and rightful king, Scotland will prosper etc. etc.
    I got an A for my kingship essay. If you're really stuck, PM me and I'll send it on to you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭greydiamond


    Plath or Frost has to come up:D


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