The Best Star Trek Film?

Pride Fighter

I was just wondering what people out there think the best Star Trek film is. Personally I am of the view that the wrath of Khan is the best with the undiscovered country a close second, the voyage home a close third and first contact a close fourth. The worst in my view is the final frontier, what a terrible, terrible film. Anyway you decide.

monkeyfudge

Wrath of Kahn would be my favourite as well.

The most recent TNG movie would be the one I think is the worst... the one with the clone of Picard... the title even escapes me at the moment...

At least Final Frontier still had some good character moments....

EDIT: ah... there's a poll now... Nemesis it was...

Pride Fighter

Nemesis bucked the trend in that every even numbered Trek film was absolutely amazing. That was unfortunate in my view. The TNG films should have ended on a bang not a whimper.

Karl Hungus

It can only be the Wrath of Khan, why even bother with a poll? Everyone already knows the answer.

Now, second best Trek film? That'd be a doozy.

Karl Hungus

Pride Fighter wrote:

Nemesis bucked the trend in that every even numbered Trek film was absolutely amazing.

That 'Even numbered' trend is actually a complete misunderstanding.

In reality, it's more of a case of every Trek film that Nicholas Meyer was involved in was good. Star Trek II? Written and Directed by Meyer. Star Trek IV? Written by Meyer. Star Trek VI? Written and Directed by Meyer.

It is infact, First Contact that bucked the trend in being the only good Trek film that Nicholas Meyer wasn't involved in.

FYI.

Pride Fighter

It is coincidence. But that coincidence was broken by Nemesis.

Karl Hungus

Pride Fighter wrote:

It is coincidence. But that coincidence was broken by Nemesis.

No it wasn't. Nemesis isn't any different to other Trek films that Nicholas Meyer wasn't involved in.

Pride Fighter

Karl Hungus wrote:

It is infact, First Contact that bucked the trend in being the only good Trek film that Nicholas Meyer wasn't involved in.

FYI.

I dont agree. you are overlooking generations which is a good film aswell as the search for Spock. And Nemesis is different. Data dies and that was an emotionally traumatic experience for me

Karl Hungus

Pride Fighter wrote:

I dont agree. you are overlooking generations which is a good film

I'm not overlooking Generations, it was clear-cut garbage. And the entire plot was pathetic...

Pride Fighter wrote:

aswell as the search for Spock.

I'll grant you it wasn't the worst, but compared to II, IV, VI, and First Contact, it's still a poor film.

Pride Fighter wrote:

And Nemesis is different. Data dies and that was an emotionally traumatic experience for me

Nope, it's also garbage. Worse than Generations even! And Data's death was not only meaningless, but they added in such a blatant 'Get out of death free' card as to make something that may have had some point, utterly wastefull and pointless.

Pride Fighter

Your a funny guy. Especially in regards to Data's death, I would agree with you. I like generations, I think its good. Its just a case of different strokes for different folks.

Dirk Gently

no borg / no angry klingons = no good.

II and VI coming in second and third after first contact.

can't believe the search for spock was even mentioned.

Pride Fighter

Maybe you should watch search for spock again. Its decent.

monkeyfudge

Search for Spock is actually pretty good.

The whole stealing the Enterprise scene is great.

Goodshape

Aye, Search For Spock was decent. A bit slow going maybe, and I doubt it would ever be anyones first or second choice, but it's not a bad film.

Wrath of Khan gets the #1 vote from me too. Either Undiscovered Country or First Contact would be next.

I also really like The Motion Picture.

triple h

The Wrath Of Khan. Has to be no. 1

Thrill

Wrath of Khan is no.1 star trek film for me also.

Khhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannn.........Khhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannn.

Marathon Man

Wrath of Khan is the business.

LilKitty

I didn't vote because I haven't seen all the movies, most of them but not all. I tried watch the first one but kept falling asleep(seriously, although it was as I was laying in bed and ready to sleep soon anyway) but basically it just goes on too long and the storyline doesn't seem to be interesting enough to warrant that time.

The only other Star Trek movies I haven't seen are 2 and 3, although a saw a small bit of one or both.

I'm wondering though, with the announcement of an 11th movie being released in I think it was 2008, will this poll need to be edited to accommodate it?

User45701

monkeyfudge wrote:

Search for Spock is actually pretty good.

The whole stealing the Enterprise scene is great.

Ye the music during that scene is very good.

I also liked the fact it was the first we got the klingon POV and who i assumed was either the klingons commanders wife or else his subordinate, she didnt mind dying and wished the commander Ka'plah (success) before he blew up the ship he was on

LilKitty wrote:

I didn't vote because I haven't seen all the movies, most of them but not all. I tried watch the first one but kept falling asleep(seriously, although it was as I was laying in bed and ready to sleep soon anyway) but basically it just goes on too long and the storyline doesn't seem to be interesting enough to warrant that time.

The only other Star Trek movies I haven't seen are 2 and 3, although a saw a small bit of one or both.

I'm wondering though, with the announcement of an 11th movie being released in I think it was 2008, will this poll need to be edited to accommodate it?

emm.... Please watch Star Trek II

Oh and the poll cant be edited because it only fits 10 options unless we just start a new poll and dont include the movie that gets the least amounts of votes here, probbley insurrection,final frontier or the motion picture

monkeyfudge

LilKitty wrote:

I didn't vote because I haven't seen all the movies, most of them but not all. I tried watch the first one but kept falling asleep(seriously, although it was as I was laying in bed and ready to sleep soon anyway) but basically it just goes on too long and the storyline doesn't seem to be interesting enough to warrant that time.

That's why it's unkindly referred to as Star Trek: The "Slow" Motion Picture.

cold_filter

I quite liked insurrection....

monkeyfudge

cold_filter wrote:

I quite liked insurrection....

I didn't think it was too bad either... Far superior to Nemesis which was an atrocity.

It seems to be the forgotten Star Trek film though... It's a long, long time since I've seen it aired anywhere.

LilKitty

User45701 wrote:

Oh and the poll cant be edited because it only fits 10 options unless we just start a new poll and dont include the movie that gets the least amounts of votes here, probbley insurrection,final frontier or the motion picture

I have a poll currently running that has 11 options because the moderator for that forum allowed it, if you ask the mod of this forum and give a reason like you want to include all the movies(when the 11th one is released that is) they may let you.

LilKitty

monkeyfudge wrote:

That's why it's unkindly referred to as Star Trek: The "Slow" Motion Picture.

My ex told me that, totally agree!

LilKitty

cold_filter wrote:

I quite liked insurrection....

Yeah, I heard a lot of people thought it was crap but it was actually one of my favs, I liked the storyline and it was better than First Contact, they just had to have a movie that brought the borg into it didn't they? Not to mention the ridiculous storyline based around why they were involved!:eek:

Pride Fighter

Insurrection is decent. Wrath of Khan the best. Final frontier is definitely the worst.

Quote from futurama.

Nimoy- I knew how to get the best out of Bill (Shatner) on Star Trek 4 when I directed it.

Shatner- and I knew how to get the best out of me when I directed Star Trek 5.

lol.

Says it all though. Final Frontier sucks cause Shatner cant direct.

LilKitty

Pride Fighter wrote:

Insurrection is decent. Wrath of Khan the best. Final frontier is definitely the worst.

Quote from futurama.

Nimoy- I knew how to get the best out of Bill (Shatner) on Star Trek 4 when I directed it.

Shatner- and I knew how to get the best out of me when I directed Star Trek 5.

lol.

Says it all though. Final Frontier sucks cause Shatner cant direct.

I'm a Futurama fan so I know that quote well and then when he says that, they star at him like he's an idiot!:D

User45701

shatner is amazing best actor of all time.
and yes that episode of futurama is one of my fav's along with "Rosewells that end wells"

Kojak

The Wrath Of Khan, ftw.

Oh, and the episode of Futurama witht the cast of Star: Trek was absolutly hilarious

LilKitty

User45701 wrote:

shatner is amazing best actor of all time.

How can you think that?:eek: Sure he's good in Boston Legal but his performance in TOS left so much to be desired. I heard his earlier stuff was alright though. Then he was in TJ Hooker:eek:! He's a good actor but hardly amazing.

Karl Hungus

monkeyfudge wrote:

I didn't think it was too bad either... Far superior to Nemesis which was an atrocity.

It seems to be the forgotten Star Trek film though... It's a long, long time since I've seen it aired anywhere.

In fairness, watching the cast of Star Trek try and burp the theme tune for 90 minutes would be far superior to Nemesis. It was just a truly awful, turgid movie.

But yeah, Insurrection was watchable. I wouldn't call it good though.

User45701

LilKitty wrote:

How can you think that?:eek: Sure he's good in Boston Legal but his performance in TOS left so much to be desired. I heard his earlier stuff was alright though. Then he was in TJ Hooker:eek:! He's a good actor but hardly amazing.

Did you see the comedy central roast of william shatner?

Very funny, when i say he is the best i mean my favurate, i dont care about his acting skills at all i mean as a actor he is my fav because he is so funny and nobody can overact like he can.

BTW if you watch boston legal someone put up a youtube link a few months back on boards and i cant find it. Its a boston legal scene where some guy has a rifle and william shatner has something to say about it. It was very funny

8k2q1gfcz9s5d4

I liked first contact, then again i am a big fan of the borg!!!!

jackdaw

i just watched NEMESIS there, what a heap of sh*te!!!

terrible terrible film....

i voted for generations as the best....

Nemesis is on now at 19.05!

LilKitty

jackdaw wrote:

i just watched NEMESIS there, what a heap of sh*te!!!

terrible terrible film....

i voted for generations as the best....

Nemesis was a crap film but I don't think it was worse than The Motion Picture:eek: , at least I can stand watching all of the former!

Karl Hungus

jackdaw wrote:

i voted for generations as the best....

OMG, troll!

jackdaw

troll ??

LilKitty

jackdaw wrote:

troll ??

I don't get it either.

Goodshape

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll

troll
One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.

ie. nobody could possibly think that Generations is the best Star Trek film, so the suggestion is that you posted that just to provoke an argument.

I'm sure Karl was only joking. However, Generations is indeed a whole pile of poo

Q_Ball

Insurrection lost me once Riker started controlling the enterprise with a joystick :mad:

All those ensigns that sued the federation with carpal tunnel syndrome cases could have been avoided

risaphoenix

Either Voyage Home (what can i say, i like the ones where they utterly stick out in "old" earth, it was very funny) or First Contact. I did not like Nemesis at all.

R0ot

First Contact for one reason - The Borg!

Steve_o

First Contact was probably my favourite, Nemesis was awful and Insurrections was good up until, as Q_Ball said, the Joy Stick incident with Riker!