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Jack Evans Vs Roderick Strong ROH All Star Extravaganza III

This was a good match, one of the better singles contests Ive seen this year so far, but it was highly flawed from one major point of view. I am a fan of Evans, I find him one of the more innovative high flyers at the moment. But this match was a grudge match, second from top of the card, against his former stable mate, who had blindisded him in New York a few weeks beforehand. Jack should have been angry. No, he did his usual entrance and his usual breakdance schtick. His offense was same as always, though if anything more flippy than usual. No aggression whatsoever. This annoyed me as this match had the potential to be at least MOTN. Roddy was solid as always. Im enjoying his heel run.

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No Remorse Corps vs The Resilience - This Means War II

I'm going to talk more about the feud here than the match itself, although was quite entertaining.The NRC are a great heel faction, Richards is a smug bastard that I love to hate, Strong is improving as a heel now, and Romero is a great addition to the group. The Resilience on paper however don't look too impressive. Aries is awesome as everyone knows (except TNA), but Stevens and Cross don't really match up to the other members of the NRC. Until I saw this match.
Let me just say first off, I don't think M-Dogg is good enough to be in this group. He does nice spots but he doesn't know how to work a match. He's grand in multi man matches but that's it, him one on one with Romero for example would be awful.
Thank god for Erik Stevens! He is over big time with the crowd from his work with FIP and his explosive style really complements Aries. He makes up for Cross big time. This faction war can really take off now

especially with the news that Aries has left TNA.

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Now in this match the NRC dominated. It was elimination rules though so I'd be interested to see a proper 6 man tag.

I think ROH can get a lot of mileage out of this feud and hopefully Jack will get back and start his faction too, although at this stage they can get away with these two. Maybe substitute Cross for someone good and were in for a great year!

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Kenta & Marufuji Vs Marvin & Suzuki PRO WRESTLING NOAH

This was always going to be a humdinger, and it totally did not dissapoint. Ive not seen much of Marvin & Suzuki, but what I have seen, I have been well impressed. Very innovative high flyers, and certainly keep a high tempo to their matches. This match went a good 25 minutes, with maybe an 8 minute sprint toward the end. Now i know people are too into 'false finishes' etc, and this one had its fair share, but it helped its pace. I think every finisher was done, and the actual finish had the usually quiet japanese audience on its feet and loud.

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Vince135792003 wrote:

Ric Flair versus Steamboat Chi Town Rumble February 1989


The WWE Legends of the '80s dvd was in sale in town so I picked it up. This match is one hundred shades of greatness. I don't have the words to describe how good it was.

They would have an even better one a few months later at Wrestlewar 89 too!

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Vince135792003

validreasoning! wrote:

They would have an even better one a few months later at Wrestlewar 89 too!

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I preferred this one. I've only watched both once but I just enjoyed the one from Chicago more for whatever reason.

ShawnRaven

Vince135792003 wrote:

I preferred this one. I've only watched both once but I just enjoyed the one from Chicago more for whatever reason.

If i recall correctly, they had three matches on PPV during that feud. Wrestlewar was the third and last one to finish the feud. Just thought it was a classy way for it to finish.

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BOLA Night 2 PWG Necro Butcher Vs Super Dragon

This was never going to be pretty, and it wasnt. it was oddly enthralling though. Both of these fellas are trash wrestlers, but they told a decent story in this match, and to be fair to Necro, he sells great. Probbaly went a tad long at 20 minutes, but the finsih was outstanding. The crowd went wild for the entire match.

Takeshi Morishima & Mohammed Yone Vs Takeshi Rikio & Siguira Pro Westling NOAH Nov 06

The more I see of Morishima, the more impressed I am every time. Same can be said of Yone. I would love to see him booked in ROH to face McGuinness, or if Low Ki is still booked in NOAH to see that match. There isn't much pretty about Rikio, he seems to be more about powerful chops than any technical grace, from what I have seen of course, and Siguira seems to be a hard hitting guy who can also do the odd high spot. This went a good 15 mins,the momentum switched plenty, letting both teams show what they could do. Well worth watching this. It will be repeated on TWC at some point during the week Im sure.

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Briscoes Vs Marvin & Suzuki First Navigation 2007

Finally saw this match and boy was it worth waiting for. Im not too familiar with Marvin or Suzuki, but some of their innovation needs to be seen to be believed. Very good back and forth match with plenty close falls. It was well paced throughout and timed well in that it wasnt too long or anything. Derfinitely a must see.

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Briscoes Vs Marvin & Suzuki First Navigation 2007

I watched this match earlier, brilliant stuff. Some of those spots just made me smile, they were done so well. The double hurricanrana in the corner, the running dropkick from the ramp by Marvin, the double lionsault by Suzuki, the leap over the turnbuckle from the outside by Mark Briscoe, it was really enjoyable. Definitely one of the best matches I've seen this year

Briscoes vs Marufuji & Ibushi - NOAH Summer Navigation

This was a part of the NTV Cup League that I mentioned in one of my posts earlier in this thread. I hadn't seen Kota Ibushi before, but he impressed the hell out of me. He pulled off some great offence and some stuff I hadn't seen before, and it was as you'd expect from the other three guys, very solid match

KENTA & Ishimori vs Marufuji & Ibushi

This was a part of the same tag league, from last Sunday. The whole thing was just phenomenal. Even before any punches had been traded they had the crowd going crazy, as KENTA and Marufuji both decided that they'd start things off. Explosive start to it and they told some great stories the whole way through. KENTA and Marufuji had some excellent exchanges with one great bit where Marufuji was just one step ahead the whole time. The two younger lads went at it a lot too, it was like KENTA and Marufuji wanted to prove to each other that their new tag partners were better (KENTA and Marufuji having been a tag team in the past). Ibushi continued to impress me and Ishimori was a lot better than the two or three times I've seen him before. Apparently KENTA got injured here somewhere, but I couldn't tell how. This was just awesome. Easily a match of the year contender, I'll have to watch it again because I think it may very well be THE very best match I've seen this year

Briscoes vs Marvin & Suzuki

This was the last match of the tag league, went on straight after the last match I mentioned. Whichever team won would have a match with KENTA & Ishimori to decide the winners of the league, so both teams were really giving it their all. Not as spot-based as their match from earlier this year, but it quickened up towards the end. Both teams played the part of heel at certain points, to get over how much they needed the win I guess. Mark smacked Jay in the head with a top rope move by accident, Jay didn't look too happy. This was still an amazing match, but the greatness of it has probably been diluted for me having watched those two other great matches just before it

I'm not sure if I just happened to watch the best three matches of that tag league, but considering that Davey Richards & Bryan Danielson were also in it I'm sure there's some more worth watching

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KENTA vs Bryan Danielson - ROH Chicago June 23rd (2nd PPV Taping)

Excellent, excellent, EXCELLENT match! One of the best singles matches of the year that I've seen, up there with Cena/Michaels, Orton/Edge and Nagata/Tanahashi. Great technical wrestling to start with, nice quickening of pace for a few spots in the middle and I just loved the finishing stretch. Looks like the second ROH ppv will be one to watch, this was better than any of the matches on the first

EDIT: Oops, just saw that this match won't be on the ppv. All the more reason to get the dvd I suppose

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It didn't take you too long to get your hands on that! I recently watched their match in NOAH, and while it was solid, it didn't blow me away like Glory By Honor did. The weak crowd probably had something to do with it. People who saw it live on the ROH boards all reckon its their best yet. Is it on DM?

Fozzy

Not yet, but the KENTA/Ishimori vs Marufuji/Ibushi match is, I'd definitely recommend giving that a look. The KENTA vs Dragon match had Japanese commentary when I watched it, so I'll be getting the dvd for sure

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Kurt Angle Vs Scott Steiner TNA Destination X

This was absolute rubbish, and both men are guilty of a half hearted slap dash effort with about the most stupid and botched finish I have ever seen.

A weak looking sunset flip FFS

. Throughout this match the two of them were trying submissions and the Steiner Recliner looks incredibly weak and stupid looiking. Angle reversed it at one point into the Ankle lock which he held for about 45 seconds. When Steiner escaped he totally no sold the effects. This crapfest could not end quick enough. Truly the worst Kurt Angle match I have ever seen.

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Six Man Mayhem - ROH FYF Dayton - Claudio Castagnoli vs Roderick Strong vs Mark Briscoe vs Shingo vs Matt Cross vs Pelle Primeau

Really fun match, everyone in it had a certain role and they all did their bit excellently. Too often these multi-man matches end up as cluster****s with nothing meaning anything, but the spots here made sense and it's definitely one of the best of these kind of matches ROH have had. Claudio and Pelle really put on great performances

CZW Cage of Death 6 - Super Dragon & Excalibur vs Kevin Steen & El Generico

Possibly the best CZW match I've ever seen, helped in large part by it being a regular tag match. This really highlighted the positives of each wrestler and they were able to tell a great story between Generico getting ganged up on and Super Dragon using his experience, along with teasing the beatdown between Super Dragon and Steen until Steen could finally get his hands on Dragon. Slightly odd sight in America to have 3 guys in masks in a match together. And

poor Generico! Steen turned on him after the match and the other two saved him, but then of course they bet the ****e out of him anyway!

I think this one might be on Dailymotion, it's worth checking out

ROH's First Japan Show - Bryan Danielson vs Go Shiozaki

Much like I think that John Cena's match with Lashley wasn't his best match this year, but it was his best performance, I think the same thing about Danielson here. Shiozaki is by no means a bad wrestler, but he's just not up there with the best. Danielson reminded me of Flair so much here, the way he changed his gameplan to make his opponent look like gold. Apart from the one American guy chanting "you're gonna get your ****in head kicked in" at the start, this was just brilliant. I'm just so in awe of Danielson right now

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In regards to what you have spoilered above, I'd really love to see that happen in ROH too.

Generico is too much of a good guy to have as Steen's partner. I don't mind Generico but I love Steen, very possibly a future world champ!

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Just finished watching ROH Fighting Spirit after taking a bit of a break from ROH in general. Good show, but certainly nothing there to make me want to watch it over again.

Some good matches with Jay Briscoe & Ericks Stevens Vs Steenerico with a great and dramatic run in. Rocky Romero Vs Caludio was a handy effort also.

Id say my favourite match of the show would have been Richards & Strong Vs Delirious & Evans. Contrary to how I bitched about Jack earlier in the thread in his singles match with Strong, he actually brought an attitude to this one. No dancing, no crowd pandering, just straight to the action. Delirious plays a great role also. The NRC are a great faction and play the crowd almost perfectly in this match.

The main event wasn't too bad either. i expected more, but what we got was a hard hitting 'slobberknocker'. This match put both over greatly. My only complaint is McGuinness' overuse of his jawbreaker lariat. It looks too contrived constantly going through the ropes to do it. Great sprint at the end and a very nice finish.

Overall I would give this show about 7/10

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ROH - Good Time, Great Memories

Just finished watching this, extremely solid event. Not a bad match on the card. Best has to be the Briscoes vs Shelley & Sabin, they put on a great show

I liked Jimmy Jacobs promo at the start, ignoring the couple of times he messed up when using big words. His knee looked a mess

6 Man Mayhem with some of the Chikara guys was deadly. Delirious and Mike Quackenbush really made this. Excellent way to start the show, it was a perfect opening match

Christopher Daniels left on a sort of low-key note, although his promo was decent. Pity TNA didn't do much with him after it

Rocky Romero's improved some more, I'm starting to like the guy now. Himself and Aries had a good match but I think they're capable of something more and I'll be watching it when it happens

Shingo's last match for ROH was very good. Morishima was excellent in the match, especially in the closing stretch. He's deserving of that title I think. Probably Shingo's best singles match in ROH, seemed like the fans thought he might actually win the title at some points

Roderick Strong and Jack Evans did well, although not as good as one of their other matches from this year that I watched recently. I was hoping that Jack would make a bit more of a comeback at the end, but it wasn't to be

As I said, the tag titles match was the best on the card. I just read that it was 35 minutes long, didn't feel like that at all! The Briscoes have been accused (rightly!) of dragging out their matches after the biggest moves have been hit, but that didn't happen here. Great match

Colt had a fun match to end the night, good send-off to him. Adam Pearce is great at working the crowd. Colt looked like he was having a lot of fun (as he usually does) and it was a happy ending to the show!

Highly recommended!


All Japan - Toshiaki Kawada vs Kenta Kobashi (early 1995 Kawada title defence)

This is probably the best hour long match that I've ever seen. I'm struggling to think of any better. Story of the match was mainly Kawada beating down Kobashi and Kobashi selling his ass off. This was Oscar-worthy selling! I was so into this match by the end, seriously good stuff. If you've got the patience for an hour long match then check this out!

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Bryan Danielson vs Go Shiosaki - ROH Live in Tokyo

Probably the best ROH match I've seen so far this year. Danielson made Shiosaki look like a superstar in the early goings, selling his chops like gun shots. The way Danielson worked over Go's arm in the middle was great and it really setup an astounding closing segment with excellent reversals and counter reversals.

Even the dead Tokyo crowd came alive for this, you could hear a pin drop for much of the reat of the show. Fair play to the one American who tried to get the "You're going to get your f*cking head kicked in" chant going. It was never going to catch on with 1,500 lethargic Japanese people in the room.

Shiosaki is meant to do an American tour next year, more of him in ROH please! "Here we go Go, hear we go!!" (South Park style) better catch on.

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All Japan - Toshiaki Kawada vs Kenta Kobashi (early 1995 Kawada title defence)

This is probably the best hour long match that I've ever seen. I'm struggling to think of any better. Story of the match was mainly Kawada beating down Kobashi and Kobashi selling his ass off. This was Oscar-worthy selling! I was so into this match by the end, seriously good stuff. If you've got the patience for an hour long match then check this out![/QUOTE]

Now you're talking. You're right in touting this as the best 60 min match of all time, its glorious. Kobashis selling back in the day when he was the young upstart was just awe inspiring. Where did you get your hands on the full 60 mins of this pray do tell?

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Kurt Angle Vs Eddie Guerrero WMXX

Watching this match made me remember what I loved about WWE. This was pretty much the under rtaed show stealer. Then, these two would not have been able to pull off a poor match. I love the ending of this so much. Watching it live I was sure Eddie was beat, and remember laughing out loud at how it eventually did end.

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WWF Superstars August-October 1991

Don't expect many main event matches on these, but there was pretty decent buildups post Summerslam, Pre Survivor Series. Jake Roberts heel turn as he sides with Undertaker to form the Unholy Alliance. Sgt Slaughter turns face after what seems like endless weeks of promos all ending with "I want my country back"

Savage goes on a reinstatement campaign. Bret Hart is fresh off a failed program with Warlord after winning the IC title from Hennig, The Mountie is fresh off his feud with Big Bossman, and whenever he asks Jobbers if they know who he is, they all respond "The Jailbird". Both Bret and Rougeau are about to begin their fued about this point.

Heenan has retired from managing at this point but is walking around with the NWA World Heavyweight Title, which was heavy stuff at the time because it was never heard of having that belt on WCW television. Piper gets the first crack at Flair, by coming down to Heenan on The Funeral Parlour and spitting on the belt. Flair however, still has yet to debut.

So not much in the way of matches, but if you're looking for buildups and storylines. Superstars was the way to go from 1986-1992.

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Mitsuharu Misawa (c) vs Naomichi Marufuji - GHC Heavyweight Title Match, NOAH, September 29th

The winner of this match defends the belt against Samoa Joe later this month. Certainly not the best match either guy has ever had, but it had its moments, mainly with some cool stuff outside the ring. Misawa desperately needs to avoid the corners though. He slipped on a monkey-flip attempt, he slipped on the ropes just before he was about to dive out of the ring, and he severely messed up a Tiger Driver attempt off the top rope

Just noticed some interesting matches coming soon in NOAH: KENTA vs Ricky Marvin for the first time ever, Marufuji vs Doug Williams, and Misawa vs D'Lo Brown!

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Marufuji & Ibushi Vs KENTA & Ishimori

This is everything that is good about pro wrestling. Relentless pace, high spots, no let up, raw aggression, pure(o) awesomeness. There is a moonsault spot by Ibushi in this which needs to be seen to be believed. Man I had a smil on my face for the entire 25 minutes of that. See this match. And love this match. Defo MOTYC.

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Tonight's Raw, mostly non eventful until the end

The return of HBK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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WWF Superstars October-December 1991:

Rounded off this year so i can get stuck into 1992. I generally watch this stuff all day. Matches were srtarting to break away from the jobber squashes as we had Ric Flair vs Jim Neidhart where Flair puts Neidhart on the shelf, knocking him out of the Survivor Series. Bret Hart gets electrocuted before his match with the Mountie after Jimmy Hart douses him with Water and Mountie nails him with the shock stick. Jake is the hot heel of the season replacing his python with a 14" cobra after sicking it on Sid, taking him out of the Survivor Series.

Savage is days away from being reinstated only to be called out by Jake Roberts two days before the Survivor Series and have the snake bite the arm off him for the guts of two minutes, a complete accident in reality as Jake couldn't get the snake off him! Undertaker gets his first WWE title reign, a grand total of five days before he drops it to Hogan again at Tuesday In Texas. Tunney has now declared the title vacant and up for grabs at the 1992 Royal Rumble.

Sgt Slaughter now has his country back after saving Jim Duggan in a beatdown from the Nasty Boys, nobody however could give a rats about this. Flair's "real world title belt" is now video distorted (in reality, WCW got the belt back and he was using a tag belt to continue the storyline).

And thats about it for now. Quite enjoyable stuff really.
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krudler

wasnt the snake meant to bit savage? it had been milked so had no venom,although it probably wasnt meant to gnaw on his arm for that long, i remember seeing that when i was a kid and think jake roberts was the coolest wrestler ever, its such a pity his drink and drug problems got the better of him, i marked out when he turned up on raw 2 years ago, although he did look a fat mess

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krudler wrote:

wasnt the snake meant to bit savage? it had been milked so had no venom,although it probably wasnt meant to gnaw on his arm for that long, i remember seeing that when i was a kid and think jake roberts was the coolest wrestler ever, its such a pity his drink and drug problems got the better of him, i marked out when he turned up on raw 2 years ago, although he did look a fat mess

Yeah it was meant to bite Savage, but not for 2 minutes! It was deemed too graphic for TV at the time as Superstars was on late afternoon slot that it had to be censored (although the uncensored version appeared on the Survivor Series PPV).

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Danielson/Morishima from Manhattan Mayhem II i think it was. This was the match people were calling 5 stars I think and I found it underwhelming. The first 15 minutes were great but then it seemed to fall apart. Another Japan-lite style match that pretty all Morishima's defences have been. Danielson was made to look like just another geek Morishima has killed. Ugh.

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Chris Sabin vs Katsuhiko Nakajima - All Japan, late August

This was a really fun match, very fluid. Sabin worked on the leg early on. He went into X-Division mode a few times, pulling out big moves and not staying down for too long, so Nakajima would kick him and sort him out! Sabin can be really great when he's on the top of his game. Top-rope Cradle Shock in this one too. Nakajima's a really solid wrestler and had some nice counters. A thumbs up match

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Raw 16th November, 1998

Just been watching this episode which was the Raw after Survivor Series where The Rock became the corporate champion. The Rock gives a great heel interview in the ring and generates amazing heel heat. In contrast when Austin came out the place went ballistic for him. I can't recall an opening segment on Raw this year which came close to generating this kind of electricity. Time to get rid of the scripted promos and put a bit more passion and heart into promos.