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WSOP syndicate game!
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20-04-2007 9:01pm#1PLEASE READ BEFORE VOTING!
Please vote to sign up to the WSOP syndicate game. Rather than having everyone reply and create a huge flipping thread, I made it a poll. Because its a public poll, when you vote your name will show up. Therefore, we'll see who is interested on the top of this thread, in a nice and clean manner. So please don't reply with "Yes, I wanna play" but vote "YES" instead.
Vote "YES" only if you are seriously interested in playing this syndicate game!! This means paying 127 to 250 euro (plus 10 to 15 euro fee for professional dealers if you're playing) and getting a percentage in one or two players or maybe even play the WSOP yourself! Playing is optional, but obviously more fun and a chance to play a $10,000.00 buyin event yourself! The "NO" vote is provided if you already won a seat or simply would feel left out by not voting.
HOW DOES IT WORK?
All syndicate members will sign a form where you declare to agree to the syndicate's rules and fill out your contact details. We'll need those so we know where/how to wire you money if/when the seat winner(s) cashes out. We will then play a game with a very similar structure as the WSOP main event (but not two hour levels :rolleyes:) to determine who will be representing the syndicate. One or two players, named "seat winner(s)", will get 10,000 euro to play. This consists of approximately 8,000 euro buyin and the rest for flight + hotel expenses. The other players will get a percentage of the seat winner(s) winnings.
WHEN AND WHERE?
We will democratically pick a Sunday afternoon to play. The location will be somewhere in or around Dublin. Hopefully a similar location as the last syndicate game we played for the Irish Open. First we need to determine whether its viable. If we get 50+ "YES" votes we'll discuss the next step.
ALL ABOUT NUMBERS
To make this work, we'll need at least 40 people. With more people both the entrance fee and the percentage returned will be smaller. But if we get 80+ players there will be two seats going instead of one, thus doubling everyone's chances of a potential return. Numbers right here:syndicate size € e.a. losers win 40 players 250 1 x 1.79% 50 players 200 1 x 1.43% 60 players 167 1 x 1.19% 70 players 143 1 x 1.01% 80 players 250 2 x 0.89% 90 players 222 2 x 0.79% 100 players 200 2 x 0.71%
jacQues
("YES" hamster)
Small print:- Seat winner(s) get 30% from their own winnings, 70% goes towards all other syndicate players (including the other seat winner, if there are two seats).
- Seat winner(s) may enter into a sponsorship deal for wearing logos etc, at the same division scheme of 30% self / 70% syndicate.
- Any and all sponsorship deals made after the main event are not part of the syndicate deal and therefore 100% for the seat winner.
Do you want to join the WSOP syndicate? 20 votes
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The Clamper wrote:Its Amazing That No Matter What Someone Orgainses, There Will Always Be Those Who Look For Faults
Generally, Its The People That Organise Zilch Themselves That Have The Loudest Voice In This Regard
To Me This Looks Like A Guy Trying To Set Something Up For Players To Get A Chance To Play In Vegas Or To At Least Get A Slice Of The Man In Form
Sponsorship For The Syndicate Is How It Was Posted And If You Dont Want To Participate, Then Dont Play Or Invest, Very Simple
If You Want To Organise An Event Using Your Own Rules, Then Post It Here And Do The Work Yourself Instead Of Constantly Criticising The Efforts Of Others
There Is A Poll, Vote No If You Dont Want To Participate Or Disagree With The Post
A Comprimise Could Be That The Winner Wears A Syndicate Logo, Thereby Negating The Likelyhood Of Being Approached By Another Sponsor
Print All The Names Of The Syndicate On The Shirt, Now There Would Be No Room For Sponsors
Well it amazes me how unflexible some of the people who organise things are about their plans. If you post things on a public forum, expect people who frequent that public forum to give their opinion. And in this case, the voicing of opinions is justified as it is coming from people who would like a specific change before they participate. If Jacques insists on sticking with his original idea that is perfectly fine. I just won't be involved.
Make sure you don't fall of your horse sir - it could be quite sore if you did.
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NOThe Clamper wrote:Its Amazing That No Matter What Someone Orgainses, There Will Always Be Those Who Look For Faults
Generally, Its The People That Organise Zilch Themselves That Have The Loudest Voice In This Regard
To Me This Looks Like A Guy Trying To Set Something Up For Players To Get A Chance To Play In Vegas Or To At Least Get A Slice Of The Man In Form
Sponsorship For The Syndicate Is How It Was Posted And If You Dont Want To Participate, Then Dont Play Or Invest, Very Simple
If You Want To Organise An Event Using Your Own Rules, Then Post It Here And Do The Work Yourself Instead Of Constantly Criticising The Efforts Of Others
There Is A Poll, Vote No If You Dont Want To Participate Or Disagree With The Post
A Comprimise Could Be That The Winner Wears A Syndicate Logo, Thereby Negating The Likelyhood Of Being Approached By Another Sponsor
Print All The Names Of The Syndicate On The Shirt, Now There Would Be No Room For Sponsors
Is this the most pointless post of the day?!
No one was complaining, we were fine tuning. It has already been acknowledged as a good idea, and good organisation on behalf of the OP.The Clamper wrote:
A Comprimise Could Be That The Winner Wears A Syndicate Logo, Thereby Negating The Likelyhood Of Being Approached By Another Sponsor
Print All The Names Of The Syndicate On The Shirt, Now There Would Be No Room For Sponsors
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This would benefit nobody! lol, how is that a compromise? It's useless to all involved.
oh... some guy in vegas has my name on his shirt, along with 49 others. er?The Clamper wrote:
'50 strangers who became friends through paddypowerpoker.com (the bestest poker site in the universe etc) nominated young Gholimoli to play on their behalf in the WSOP. Now he is in the last 30 of the richest event in the world' etc etc These 50 people from all walks of life could have their lives changed thanks to PaddyPower' etc etc.
So because of this I think it would be fair that any direct sponsorship should be split along the same lines as prize money.
no offense, but god that sounds like tripe, I wouldn't want to sell my soul like that!
THANKS TO PADDY POWER FOR CHANGING MY LIFE! :eek:0 -
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I had a few sponsorship deals in my life when playing tournaments, rather nice ones too. But there was never a cash payout involved. Well, except for making the final WSOP table (didn't happenFatboydim wrote:A sponsored player would sign a contract between himself and the sponsor. That is a legally binding contract. The contract will ask for certain commitments from that player. Be in Helsinki on Friday. Photo shoot in LA on Monday. Sign autographs here. Play this event. Do an interview here... Go there... Blah! Blah! Blah! That player could not be expected to sign a part of his life away for only 30% of the deal it's just not on. Even my agent only charges 10%. -
Now if that's the rules and people are willing to play under those rules - fair enough they know what they are getting into. If the rule stays I couldn't take part.
But I also think you should consider that it might hinder any player from actually getting a deal. I'm not sure any sponsor will want to sign a contract with a syndicate.
). The other deals I had did not involve anything like you say, but then again they were for games other than poker. Games where there are no professionals simply because there is no prizemoney involved. "I am a world champion!" "Great, what did you win." "Well, a trophy and some games..."
My logical reasoning was that you get the sponsorship deal because you are playing. And you are playing because of the syndicate. The syndicate clearly states that all tournament winnings will be split 30/70. Sponsorship for wearing a logo are tournament winnings as no special actions are required.
What you are saying is new to me, surprises me and would indeed change matters. What I am wondering is whether those special actions you need to do are because of wearing a logo or because of your results. What I mean is this: if you sign such contract before the tournament is finished then this rule needs to be scrapped. Simply because you are correct. Extra work is not part of the syndicate. Only work for/during the main event itself.
Note that if you sign such contract after the tournament (because of your results), then this doesn't apply to the syndicate. See rule 3 in the original post.
jacQues
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