Music Technology & Production in LIT

Steve_o

Hi, i'm hoping to start Music Tech and Production this yr in LIT, if there's anyone doin course, could ya comment on it?? Good, Bad or Indifferent!

Mongo

I'm with Steve O! Let us know folks!

Steve_o

Surely someone has done this course, no???

dave_t

It's only a new enough course(1st year last year I think) so not many would've done it I'd say

Steve_o

Well i got offered it in the second round offers today, so i'll be there!!!

Mongo

Me too!

maca912

i'm a second year student, any questions?

Belt them out?

no problem!!

Mongo

I can't figure out where I have to go Monday morning!

Pacifico

Yeah nobody knows. Typical

Steve_o

It'll all work ouot nicely in the end, usually does!!:D

Mars Bar

So how do ye find the course? This will be second on my list this year, didn't get UL or LIT last year so i'm trying it again.
Much appreciated!

Steve_o

I love it, its not easy but i enjoy the challenge....the subjects are Music Technology, Digital Workstations, Electronic Technology, Audio Electronics, Sound and Light and Music Styles and Structures...

Mars Bar

So there is people out there! lol
Thanks for the reply Steve o...I'll be putting this down as my second choice...

RINO87

just hope you dont have ul as your first choice in music technology mars bar! the ul music tech course is very theoritic with feck all studio work. LIT now has some really top notch recording studios (the ones in ul are fairly dated), and students are encouraged to use them as much as possible!

Mars Bar

That was the plan actually...hmm, haven't heard too many good things anout that course. Heard the LIT one is better alright. Must take a trip down to the college some day...
Thanks dudes!!

RINO87

a coulpe of the lecturers from the mus tech course in ul are now teaching in lit too!

starr0409

Im gettin veery mixed up about what course i want to do.....frickin really stressing like...
I just cant decide between this course in lit, the music media and performance technology course in ul and something completely different in ucc....Id prefer ul as a college but if the course in lit was worth it i'd go.Someone pleeease help me im going insane!
Cheers

Cato

Starr i would recomend going to UL, stay well clear of any media course in LIT!

RINO87

just check out the facilities in both first, i nwas going to do a masters in music tech in ul until i saw the state of the studios, they are really dated. im going to hold off now for a year and do the masters in lti instead

Mars Bar

There is a common "stereotype" i suppose that the IT's are more practical, as in, hands-on. From what I hear from the students in Ul is that the course is quite gammy in first year and very theory based but they are planning to change it next year. I wonder is the IT more hands on in the actual recording side than the Uni. Any comment?!?
I have seen UL and LOVE the college, haven't seen LIT yet though...

Starr, I know exactly how you are feeling. I just can't seem to make up my mind...

starr0409

see any thread n an LIT section says to deffinately do this one cause UL sucks and anything i find under UL threads say the opposite.......back to square one

Cato

i think because they both suck, they dident call them media courses for nothing!

opelmanta

Cato wrote: »

Starr i would recomend going to UL, stay well clear of any media course in LIT!

i totally agree. the electronics department in lit is just a fceking joke. ferrets would run it better.

Mars Bar

okay...UL is just in front now...

starr0409

yes yes ul is gaining on the inside...... uphill now, still gaining......2, 3 lengths ahead.....and its reputation is just about to kick in for the final furlong....yes!past the post. winner alright winner alright

Mars Bar

lol...hope to see ya there starr...

Mongo

It's up to you but.......I'm doing the course in LIT and I am enjoying it.It's very hands on and practical.The studios in LIT are top class and getting better.On the other hand I have a friend doing the course in UL.He's in 2nd year now and they have to yet to record anything.

Cato

well if LIT`s idea of "recording" is still hook a fecking mic up to the sound card on a 10 year old pc and giving an hours theory how to do it before hand, i would rather go to UL and not "record" at all.

Mars Bar

UL you mean...

Mongo

It's quite the opposite.If it's sound engineering you wanna do the LIT course is infinitely better.

Cato

Mongo wrote: »

It's quite the opposite.If it's sound engineering you wanna do the LIT course is infinitely better.

have you tried both? I was in LIT and i found it hard to beleive there was worse courses out there that the one i was doing 40 in the 3 passed at the rest got pissed and left it

RINO87

Cato wrote: »

well if LIT`s idea of "recording" is still hook a fecking mic up to the sound card on a 10 year old pc and giving an hours theory how to do it before hand, i would rather go to UL and not "record" at all.

i had two years of that aswell! but this year its totally different. theres proper recording studios, and proper mics, neumann, rode, etc. Full pro-tools with digidesign desks, yamaha o2r desks.

they have realised how ****ed up video and sound was when we got in proper lecturers, theyre adding in an extra year as a B.Science, getting rid of all the electronics ****e and cocentrating completely on pro tools and avid.

dont get me wrong the facilites up to this year were by far the worst in the country, but theyre finally getting it right this year

Cato

RINO87 wrote: »

i had two years of that aswell! but this year its totally different. theres proper recording studios, and proper mics, neumann, rode, etc. Full pro-tools with digidesign desks, yamaha o2r desks.

they have realised how ****ed up video and sound was when we got in proper lecturers, theyre adding in an extra year as a B.Science, getting rid of all the electronics ****e and cocentrating completely on pro tools and avid.

dont get me wrong the facilites up to this year were by far the worst in the country, but theyre finally getting it right this year

well its actually sounding better than it was, but i will remain skeptical, i will beleive it when i see it! all i remember is what a circus that course was and everyone who did it would agree...

Steve_o

Cato wrote: »

well its actually sounding better than it was, but i will remain skeptical, i will beleive it when i see it! all i remember is what a circus that course was and everyone who did it would agree...

Mango's right, the music tech course in LIT is suberb, top notch studios (3 actually, with live rooms), 6 editing suites, a MIDI room with keyboards for every computer....its good, dont believe?? come and check it out!!

Cato

Steve_o wrote: »

Mango's right, the music tech course in LIT is suberb, top notch studios (3 actually, with live rooms), 6 editing suites, a MIDI room with keyboards for every computer....its good, dont believe?? come and check it out!!

cool can i crash at your place?

Na seriously im done with media courses, if i ever did one it would be that fas course in tralee supposed to be the best.

maca912

i'm finishing second year in the music tech course there's 4 studios not 3 steve, 2 digidesign, 1 yamaha o2r and a soundcraft analogue, to be honest sbout it i live in the studio i've often started in there at 8:30 in the morning and not gone home till 10pm at night.

The UL course is very synthesis and theory based and while it does provide a superb knowledge and understanding of synthesis etc Nothing beats the quality and hands on approach that LIT provides, Thats coming from all my lecturers, the windmill lane staff and any other employees of the colleges that has come and visited the college.

All i have to say is that i have attended UL and this is my second course, i tend to prefer LIT to UL but thats my opinion. I have mates in UL and maynooth studying the courses and they don't know what an sm57 or 58 are and they're in second year!

:eek:

Mars Bar

Thanks for that Maca...one of my friends dropped out of UL and is thinking of taking the IT course so i'm going to accept the IT course if I get it also. I really wanna work in the studio so to hear you spend that long in there is deadly!:D
Could you tell me if they do tutorials in music theory coz I can't read music but can play the drums and guitar. I know in UL they have lectures teaching music from scratch or is it at all necessary in the IT?

Thanks for your help in advance!

maca912

Music Style and structure pretty much starts off from scratch and roisin is a cool enough teacher unfortunately you wont be using the studios in first year but you will be learning studio etiquette and using tascams (multitack recorders) to get you started, which aint too bad as you'll need to know how to work them prperly before the proper desks.:cool:

Mars Bar

Second Year is better than waiting for Third Year in the University. I might get a summer job in the recording studio here in town so I hope to have a fair idea of how it works before going in.
I'm glad they do the music from scratch as it is something I have wanted to learn to do for the past 4 years but never had the chance of time...

RINO87

maca912 wrote: »

Music Style and structure pretty much starts off from scratch and roisin is a cool enough teacher unfortunately you wont be using the studios in first year but you will be learning studio etiquette and using tascams (multitack recorders) to get you started, which aint too bad as you'll need to know how to work them prperly before the proper desks.:cool:

studio etiquette??? bollocks!!
theres some people up there wouldnt know a bit of manners if it came up and slapped them in the face

LayneVedder

Agreed.
blatant disregard for what other people might be workin on.
some people leave a serious mess up there its fairly bad. on the other hand, they are savage studios, cant go wrong like

RINO87

a little acoustic treatment wouldnt have hurt!!

but thats just nitpicking at stuff. its great that they are there after all the talk! I'd say they should get a fair bit of use over the summer!

Cato

its good to hear they got studios an all, they should of had it when they started that course, but oh well at least they have it now!

godfrey

there would have been studios from day one only for all the government & EU-imposed rules on tendering - believe me, I was involved in many aspects of this course.

I'm really glad to hear the very positive comments - makes it all worthwhile.

g

maca912

RINO87 wrote: »

studio etiquette??? bollocks!!
theres some people up there wouldnt know a bit of manners if it came up and slapped them in the face

Indeed, those video and sound lads haven't a clue altogether, everytime they had class, there was a problem with the desks. They should've been shown the basics instead of jumping in the deep end.

Cato

maca912 wrote: »

Indeed, those video and sound lads haven't a clue altogether, everytime they had class, there was a problem with the desks. They should've been shown the basics instead of jumping in the deep end.

hehe when i was there it was the other way around

RINO87

oh dear, now lets not turn this into a row!

Steve_o

maca912 wrote: »

Indeed, those video and sound lads haven't a clue altogether, everytime they had class, there was a problem with the desks. They should've been shown the basics instead of jumping in the deep end.

Oooo thats a bit harsh....

maca912

Yeah well i was sick of the sly comments on this thread aimed at music tech, It works both ways!

The studios are closed from today over the summer! bummer!:(

RINO87

no one is trying to be sly. my manners comment was aimed at both courses, lecturers included, its a shame when you've got something cool going and people interrupt sessions. both courses are guilty of that.

its true that some people havent the first clue what to do up there, but again its from both courses in fairness, in my experience anyway.

its a shame the studios are closed, hopefully its to upgrade some of the equipment. Some really nice boutiqe pre-amps and some cool outboard gear would go down a treat!

Steve_o

maca912 wrote: »

The studios are closed from today over the summer! bummer!:(

Are the Edit Suites open??