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Trying to scam an ebay scammer- RIGHT NOW

  • 17-04-2007 8:08pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭


    Right I was browsing ebay earlier for champions league final tickets. This item here to be exact http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=002&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=120110194330&rd=1&rd=1

    I noticed that there were quite a few similar items from different sellers with the exact same extremely basic ad layout, all advertising to email them for a buy it now price with stupid made up names like johnny.derek@hotmail.com. All the ads were one day listings, but for champions league final tickets you'd put them up for at least 5 days to generate the maximum interest. Scam alert!

    So I pm'd him via ebay just to make sure it wasn't a scam, and I got this response a short time later
    dont pay nothing you are being scammed someone has hijacked my ebay account im trying to sort it out now

    I emailed the address on the ebay ad ionutlord13@gmail.com and got a response from a guy with terrible english, called Dobrin Laurentiu-lonut


    ME
    Hey could you tell what the Buy It Now price is?

    Dobrin
    i want 600GBP for both of themare you interested?
    reply asap

    Me
    £600 for the pair, or 600 each?

    I'm interested but would you ship to Ireland, and how much would you charge for the shipping? Would you be willing to create an ebay auction for the pair with a buy it now price and email me the link. That way we would both be covering ourselves.

    Dobrin
    the price is for both of them and i can shipp them in Ireland,the shipping will be probably 15GBP,but i think that i will not put them at a by it now price because is not for the first time when a buyer told me that and after that he told me that is not interested anymore,you can buy them from me righht now and the transaction will be made trough ebay for our protection

    ME
    I'm really interested but I wont be home from work till 8pm. I'd really prefer to do it via ebay & paypal just to cover ourselves, how do you propose doing it through ebay without the buy it now option? Thanks

    DOBRIN
    the transaction will be done trough ebay so we will be both protected by ebay rules and policies,when you tell me that we have a deal i will contact ebay and they will send you an invoice with instructions on how you can pourchase the tickets from me
    thank you


    ME
    I will email you tonight when I get home from work and hopefully we can do business.

    Thanks very much

    DOBRIN
    just tell me if we have a deal so i can contact ebay for invoice procedure

    ME
    Thanks. I'll email you at 8pm with an answer, I have to get the ok from my donkey who will be going with me.

    Thanks for being so patient.

    DOBRIN
    ok i wait you then

    AT THIS POINT ALL AUCTIONS FOR THE GUY WHOSE ACCOUNT WAS HACKED WERE SUSPENDED.

    DOBRIN
    and you must to know that i have ended the listings earlier but the tickets are still available for sell,waiting for your reply
    thank you

    ME
    Thats great, thanks.

    I was talking to my donkey and he said the tickets are worth no more than £470 for the pair, would you be willing to accept £470 instead of £600? I know you asked for £600 so I would be willing to use western union or do a bank transfer to your bank account, so you don't have to pay paypal fees, or I am happy enough to use paypal so we can be sure everything goes smoothly

    DOBRIN
    sir i think that 500GBP is the lowest i can accept for them,and for the moment I'm expanding my paypal account and I can not send or receive any money,i think that western union will be fine with me
    reply asap

    ME
    Are you sure, because my donkey is adamant that we should pay no more than £470. So I think I'll have to draw the line here and decline your tickets unless you reduce your price. I'm sure you'll sell the tickets without much hassle anyway.

    Btw I dislike paypal due to the excessive fees they charged me when I sold some of my aul lads dirty knickers to a guy from Vietnam. I have used bank transfers with people on Ebay Germany in the past without any problems

    DOBRIN
    ok then let's do this fro 470GBP,i don't have a paypal account and for this i think that western union will be fine for me,tell me if we have a deal so i can give you my full details
    reply me back

    ME
    Yeah. Deal. Thanks for agreeing to 470. My donkey is happy

    Dobrin
    here you have my complete details so you can make the payment trough western union:

    Name:*****
    Address:****
    Zip:
    City:
    State:
    Country:

    now reply me back with your full info where i must shipp the tickets


    me
    Please excuse the delay, I am using wind up internet at home. I will email you in 20minutes when my connection is a bit faster.

    DOBRIN
    yes sir i have a deal with you how can i sell them to another person,i wait your reply when you can


    Right I told him I'd email him back soon, he gave me his address for the western union transfer, if this is of any use.


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Comments

  • Subscribers Posts: 16,617 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    so?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭free2fly


    Oprah had one of the head honchos from eBay on the other day and they were discussing something very similar to this. The suggestion was to never pay for anything on eBay without going through paypal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,472 ✭✭✭AdMMM


    Congratulations, you might just have the guy running in and out of Western Union offices for the next week or so :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 523 ✭✭✭mwrf


    oh, i love these. don't bring donkey into it for another few emails.

    http://www.whatsthebloodypoint.com/
    if you need inspiration


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭gyppo


    @ OP - Fair play to you - I hate those Ebay Bast**ding scammers - keep us updated.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭Nephew


    Any suggestions, I dunno where to take this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,472 ✭✭✭AdMMM


    Once you have the Western Union details you can pretend to send him the money and again and again and again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭Nephew


    lol.

    But wouldn't I need to email him a password and account number (obviously fake) to make him think its real


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 249 ✭✭Hypnotoad


    419 Eater anyone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 523 ✭✭✭mwrf


    Nephew wrote:
    Any suggestions, I dunno where to take this

    there's no rush, leave it until the morning. and as someone said keep "sending" him the monies.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=372Ah0Z_L1w

    ^^^fonejacker


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,541 ✭✭✭Heisenberg.


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭Nephew


    I sent him this a few minutes ago, I wont reply to his emails until tomorrow night, thats if he actually replies
    Thank you for being patient, my home internet connection is very slow You have a very strong English name, I have never been to Kent but my donkey says its a fabulous metropolis, it reminded him of the city in Demolition Man.

    Is it ok if I send the money at lunchtime tomorrow, or do you require it more urgently? I could probably send it before work if you do. I have not used Western Union before, so could you tell me what procedures I must do to send you the money for the tickets? I think my friend Rupert said its pretty safe for transferring money, I hope it is as I'd hate to miss out on these Champions League final tickets. Did you factor in the price of shipping to Ireland in £470, or do you want £15 on top of it for the shipping?

    Btw, how will you ship the tickets to me, via registered post?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭patrickolee


    Then send him an empty envelope without a stamp. If its like here, he will have to pay the postage to receive the letter.

    when he gets back to u, tell him u must have forgotten to put the money in and will send again!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭Nephew


    And Dobrin Laurentiu-lonuts instant reply
    sir you can make the payment when you can,this is not a problem for me,you must to pay the shipping cost for the tickets,and i will shipp them trough UPS it is safe then other shipping companyes,now give me your corect and complete name and address where i must shipp them so i can prepare the shipping to you tomorrow
    thank you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 523 ✭✭✭mwrf


    Then send him an empty envelope without a stamp. If its like here, he will have to pay the postage to receive the letter.

    when he gets back to u, tell him u must have forgotten to put the money in and will send again!

    i doubt he will give his real postal address


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,010 ✭✭✭besty


    Keep going...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭patrickolee


    Come to think of it, you'd probably want to be careful enough. Don't play with him too much. If he can hack into someone else's account, theres good chance he can attack yours, if sufficently motivated.... have you registered your address to receive any goods before?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭Nephew


    This is my reply with a made up address. The * is my real name, which unfortunately is part of my email address.
    Ok thank you.

    **** Cornelius G. ****
    13 Ballyfuga Rd,
    Tubbahcurry,
    Leitrim,
    Ireland

    Do you require any further details?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭Nephew


    his response
    no sir this is all i need,i wait you tomorrow with the payment info so i can provide you the traking # of the shipping
    thank you and have a good night


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 523 ✭✭✭mwrf


    Come to think of it, you'd probably want to be careful enough. Don't play with him too much. If he can hack into someone else's account, theres good chance he can attack yours, if sufficently motivated.... have you registered your address to receive any goods before?

    no, he got the account from phishing. someone went to a fake ebay site after recieving an email asking to confirm their details and signed in. this is how they rob accounts.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Alter-Ego


    Do this sometimes through the email scams, its fun trying to get the con-men to book you flights over to meet them and hotels and stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Smellyirishman


    Nephew wrote:
    Tubbahcurry

    Hehe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    copacetic wrote:
    so?
    Oooh bad call buddy. You anticipated general apathy and shrugging of shoulders towards this thread yet it has been embraced with enthusiasm.

    Unfortunately your response has been shown up for what it is, lazy and spannerish. You've gotta try and judge the mood of the nation better than that buddy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Nick_oliveri


    Scambaiting forum FTW! They need to burn in hell. Send him some dry donkey poo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 523 ✭✭✭mwrf


    Scambaiting forum FTW! They need to burn in hell. Send him some dry donkey poo.


    get on it! http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=461

    my support would be quite enthusiastic :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,469 ✭✭✭weeder


    as would mine hehehe

    photocopy the cash (duno if thats legal) and change bank of england to bank of scambaiting with photoshop or similar(im sure you could get someone to help) and send him that, would be rightly funny


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,617 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    Pighead wrote:
    Oooh bad call buddy. You anticipated general apathy and shrugging of shoulders towards this thread yet it has been embraced with enthusiasm.

    Unfortunately your response has been shown up for what it is, lazy and spannerish. You've gotta try and judge the mood of the nation better than that buddy.

    you got me there, I will never cease to be amazed at what excites the boardsies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    After speaking with Ruu the decision was made to lock this thread for now. I'll have a chat with the other moderators of After Hours and will decide if it should be left open or not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    Thread re-opened. Sorry for the delay.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Alter-Ego


    Hurray.

    Update?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,687 ✭✭✭Dun laoire


    copacetic wrote:
    so?

    My god you need to find yourself a sense of humour. HAHAHA


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,617 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    Dun laoire wrote:
    My god you need to find yourself a sense of humour. HAHAHA

    can I borrow yours? it seems finely tuned.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭patrickolee


    copacetic wrote:
    can I borrow yours? it seems finely tuned.
    lol


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    In the same sort of area..
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2b1_1172462850


    scammer gets hers from Judge Judy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 931 ✭✭✭banjopaul


    Hypnotoad wrote:
    419 Eater anyone?

    That website should give you more than enough inspiration! its great:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,817 ✭✭✭✭Dord


    have you ever seen the one about the apple powerbook? if not you should read it. you're heading in a similar way to this guy.

    http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/

    sorry if this has been posted in the thread before. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,945 ✭✭✭D-Generate


    Ask him to pose for a photo with the tickets holding a sign saying "Pighead is a ****" for verification that he has them. I know he has none but the lengths people go to get £470 will make him do it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Thank you for being patient, my home internet connection is very slow You have a very strong English name, I have never been to Kent but my donkey says its a fabulous metropolis, it reminded him of the city in Demolition Man.

    Brilliant!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,687 ✭✭✭Dun laoire


    HavoK wrote:
    Brilliant!
    Btw I dislike paypal due to the excessive fees they charged me when I sold some of my aul lads dirty knickers to a guy from Vietnam. I have used bank transfers with people on Ebay Germany in the past without any problems

    This was very funny too. Excellent stuff nephew


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭skywalker


    Then send him an empty envelope without a stamp. If its like here, he will have to pay the postage to receive the letter.

    when he gets back to u, tell him u must have forgotten to put the money in and will send again!

    I remember reading a similar thread on 419 eater, I think thats the tactic nowadays, but they made sure it was a hefty package & had declared its as being rather valuable so the scammer had to pay the customs charges to get it out.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭patrickolee


    From

    'http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/'

    3) Finally, and most disturbingly, Jeff was not heard from again. I personally e-mailed him for permission to run his story on ZUG, but after an initial response, I never heard from him again. All of his Web sites have come down, and he is nowhere to be found.

    That has to be the most worrying part. Nephew be very careful...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Oriel


    Post him some anthrax?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭Nephew


    DOBRIN
    Hy
    after the payment was made from the western union office email me the payment details like:
    MTCN# and Sender complete name and address so i can go to the UPS office and shipp you the tickets
    reply me back asap
    thank you

    ME
    Dobrin, my friend,. I will email you the western union details later tonight. I was a held up in the brothel earlier.

    DOBRIN
    ok,i understand,i wait you with the confirmation of payment so i can shipp you the tickets tomorrow

    ME
    Do you mind if I email you a scanned copy of the receipt, because I cannot read the stupid ****s writing who filled in the form in the western union.

    DOBRIN
    you can send me the scanned paper but if i can't read the info i must have the mtcn# and sender complete name and address,send me the scaned paper


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭Nephew


    ME
    Here is the receipt, I hope you can read the ****s writing better than me.

    http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/3324/picturexs3.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭Nephew


    dobrin
    sir this is the paper completed by you this is not the receipt from western union

    me
    no this is the receipt they gave me

    dobrin
    ok i will go to the western union office tomorrow and if the money are there i will shipp you the item tomorrow too
    thank you

    me
    Thank you. They said the money transfer is more or less instant

    dobrin
    ok give me your corect and complete name so i can verifie the money on western union website,give me your corect and complete name

    me
    My correct name is **** YOU, YOU * *

    dobrin
    ohh my God,you are only a stupid fuking scammer

    me
    No you are, you ****ing geebag **, why else would they close all your auctions

    dobrin
    i have end them myself because ebay has instructed me to do this if i have a deal with a buyer stupid man

    me
    oh my god, i have totally mistaken you for a scammer. my sincere apologies, will you accept paypal?

    dobrin
    what?how can you tell me that you have mestaken me with a scammer sir,i told you that this deal can goes trough ebay and in this way i can't be a scammer,i told you that for the moment I'm expanding my paypal account and I can not send or receive any money,


    me
    ok log into your account and we'll do this through ebay

    dobrin
    sir after i will contact ebay for invoice procedure they will send you an invoice into your email account with instructions this is the standard procedure


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭Nephew


    dobrin
    here you have the scanned paper of the confirmation from fifa so you can see that i really have the tickets

    http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/2463/fifast8.jpg

    me
    I dont know, davey. Anyone could get a picture like that by searching google images, and pretend they have the letter. If you take a picture of you holding the letter I will believe you have the tickets and I will definitely buy the tickets off you, as it is the only way I can tell if you a trustworthy man of trust speaking words.

    dobrin
    this is your opinion that you can get this pics on google??you know something sir?i will sell them to another buyer, i have tryed all my best so i can make this transaction with you after all your offends
    thank you for your time anyway


    me
    Thank you kind sir for being patient. I will buy from another ebayer unless you send me a picture of you holding to letter to prove you have them. If not, I wish you luck in selling them.

    I doubt he's going to reply again


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭Daknight


    yeah i doubt he will, stupid scammers! :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    if he does, ask him to do the payment by WU again, but ask him to complete this form - tell him Western Union are covering their asses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭Nephew


    Guys you will not believe the picture he emailed me.
    here you have the pic where i am with my brother and the scanned

    http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/9683/nextvf6.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    Dodgy photoshop, if ever I did see.


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