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Girlfriend Has Never Had Orgasm during Sex - Help!

  • 12-04-2007 9:24pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    Hi,

    I've been going out with my girlfriend for just over a year.

    The problem is she's never had an orgasm while having sex.

    Oral or using my fingers i can give her one no problem but never during sex.

    No matter how many times we do it or how long we go for - not a hope. Also i have a reasonable sized penis so don't think that's the issue.

    Also she was a virgin before i met her so no experience to go by.

    Any ideas on what i can do - Not giving your girlfriend an orgasm during sex is serious in my book.

    However she seems happy enough but i'm not.

    Any advice greatly appreciated


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 42 Isobel


    She's faking, Oral and "fingering" are easy to fake so you fake and they stop, no offence but you're doing them wrong, if you weren't she'd want sex, hell she'd be gagging for it. if she was a virgin when you met and you did it wrong the first time then thats all she expects now and tries to get it over as quickly as possible. I bet with oral and fingers she "cums" really quick? thats a lie.

    To get oral right you need her to help you, ask her what she wants and likes. Just outside the vagina about a centimeter above the "hole" is something that feels like a fish bone, it feels like a really soft, thin but noticable bone. play with that as you (can I tell this? without getting banned :D ) lick her and don't just lick outside, gentley open her "lips" and push your tongue in but nothing else while still playing (in a slow circular motion) with her (for the sake of you) fish bone.

    Fingering DOES NOT mean shuving your fingers up theire!!! play with the "fishbone" first and make her wet and slowly and gently slide one in and move it in and out slowly while using your thumb to massage her "fishbone" and when she's wet enough bent the finger inside to be touching your thumb on the outside and rotate them both together gently, the finger on the inside should be on her G-spot at that point (Thats how you find it boys :p ) and your thumb will be massaging her clit (the "fishbone") too.

    Heres an advanced illustration just to give you guide lines if you need some extra help but if its to techical give me a shout and I'll help you out, it was desiged as a medical aid:

    http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p72/izzydabomb/cum_factor.jpg


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Unreg2000 wrote:
    The problem is she's never had an orgasm while having sex.
    Very common, if by sex you mean penetrative sex.
    Oral or using my fingers i can give her one no problem but never during sex.
    That's a good thing believe it or not. The amount of women who have to suffer through not having an orgasm because of clumsy partners is not funny.
    Also i have a reasonable sized penis so don't think that's the issue.
    Generally it's the reasonable sized brain that's more the issue. Or so I've been told. maybe they were just trying to be nice...:D Joking aside, willy size has little to do with it.
    Also she was a virgin before i met her so no experience to go by.
    Well think on the fact that you can give her an orgasm by other means and be happy with that. The fact that you're looking for other ways to do that is a good thing (unless it's for ego massage).
    Any ideas on what i can do - Not giving your girlfriend an orgasm during sex is serious in my book.
    The problem is your thinking as to what "sex" is.
    However she seems happy enough but i'm not.
    Aye there's the rub. Look, she's happy. You are a skilled enough lover to give her orgasms in other ways. That's good. The reason you're unhappy is more to do with your ego than anything else. The fact is that some women can't orgasm through penetrative sex. So what.

    If I was sure that I could give a woman a guaranteed orgasm by doing a naked Saturday night fever dance, while singing the Uzbek national anthem with banjo accompaniment with a peacock feather stuck in my arse I'd be happy. More than happy. I would be giving her an orgasm. Full fúckin stop.

    In the end of the day it's what makes her earth move, not what you think should make her earth move that is the thing.
    Any advice greatly appreciated
    If you can be honestly and reasonably sure that you can give the woman in your life a regular predictable orgasm by your current means, you may be better suited to handing out the advice not looking for it.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,077 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Isobel's post is unbelievable! 'desiged as a medical aid'? I think not.

    OP, if she's happy, you should be too. Maybe different positions might help?

    Not your ornery onager



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Oh yea I've just read Isobel. Take that advice to heart OP. Though it is possible she isn't faking and just isn't primed to orgasm vaginally. It does depend on the woman. Age comes into it too in my limited. A lot of women find it difficult.
    Of course stimulation can encompass both as it were.
    Loooove the pictorial. It should be a sticky(ooh er). No seriously, it should be.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Isobel wrote:
    I bet with oral and fingers she "cums" really quick? thats a lie.
    Not always. Some women orgasm very quickly. Most don't in fairness.
    ask her what she wants and likes.
    The best advice of all.
    Just outside ..../... fish bone.
    Yes but some women don't appreciate direct stimulation. As Isobel says, ask her.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 828 ✭✭✭SoBe




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 42 Isobel


    esel wrote:
    Isobel's post is unbelievable! 'desiged as a medical aid'? I think not.

    OP, if she's happy, you should be too. Maybe different positions might help?

    Actually the last part was meant as a joke, I think that was pretty obvious, grow the **** up, yeah like that that pic is used in colleges lol like "OK this is a vagina and these are the gooey bits" hahahaha **** off ya twat!!!! if you were any stupider you'd be a grape lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 828 ✭✭✭SoBe


    ooooohh personal abuse


    /pulls up chair and gets popcorn


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 42 Isobel


    SoBe wrote:
    lolers :D

    What does lolers mean? is it bad?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Isobel wrote:
    yeah like that that pic is used in colleges lol like "OK this is a vagina and these are the gooey bits
    Isobel, I wouldn't laugh too long. I'm quite sure if it was used as a teaching aid there would be many a college age woman that would be happier.;) :D

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 42 Isobel


    Hey OP, know the pic was a mess but I bet my advise has been the best so far, at least I gave you options and stayed on topic before this ****


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Isobel wrote:
    What does lolers mean? is it bad?
    Laugh Out Loud according to Google. So good it seems, unless he/she's faking it. :)

    Sadly this will get locked soon. It's a pity as too many may get some good info from it.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 42 Isobel


    It was genuine info, I spent over an hour givng him good advice, the picture was just a joke for everybody else to go "Like how obvious is that". I was giving you's a man joke I can't see how that is bad, esel started making it more, like for **** sake esel do you think if I didn't care I'd have wrote a fecking essay reply? it took me over an hour to reply, to write all that and in all that time I still ended up as the second poster???? if you're so ****ing smug where was all your morals when he really needed it? fuking no-where and you can go off topic now and get all righteous indignation on me but I'd be willing to bet that the advice I gave as the SECOND poster was based on nothing more than ADVICE, you used his thread to to start on me, what did you contribute?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭timmy69


    All the stuff about women not being able to have orgasms during penetration is BS, ive been with some that swore they couldnt, but i learned later with the sames ones that it was all psychological!! some are insecure, some have internal issues and stuff like that. What you can do is help em be in a relax state and comfort state during that time, them to all kinds of release during sex and have them wipe out all old memories and or insecurities by talking to em during it. Only in a fully relaxed state will your partner go into squirting orgasms, some women are very comfortable but most arent. Talk to em during this time, sexual communication is the key here.

    Where as orgasm during penetration is concerned, thats all got to do with the G spot!

    The G-spot is a small bunch of nerves about the size of a euro coin located 1 - 2 inches inside and on the roof of the vaginal cavity, find this is with your
    fingers slide your finger up inside along the upper wall of the vagina at about a forty five degree angle (using the two finger come here gesture)

    making a woman orgasm has a lot to do with calibration, every woman is different, u have to see what arouses her most and its like if the clitoris and the G spot isnt aroused enough and swollen on time, she will not orgasm. so if u stimulate (and swell) the clitoris and then the G spot using techniques that arouse her most, when the G spot is so swollen and you can feel it, keep doing whats right, she will squirt all over your face!

    P.S some bozos think banging hard like a porn star gets her off, it does in the short term but later on her nerves become numb and no feelings, so go gentle and hit every side, you'll see ;)

    PM me for more info.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    Isobel, watch your mouth and stay on topic or don't post at all thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,639 ✭✭✭PeakOutput


    i was going to write a long reply but that pic really threw me off i cant stop laughing..............all im going to say is CLITORIS i cant emphasize it enough any girl iv been with cant emphasize how much they like it enough either...if you know nothing about it google it and learn quickly..............also the only way youll learn is by asking her wat she wants and tell her not to bull**** you about you being fine or watever be a man and say teach me............it took me a while to get the bottle to first of all admit i might not be doing everything as good as i should and secondly to ask for help

    she has fantasies like everyone else she has sorted herself out many times before regardless of what ashe tells you so she knows where she likes to be touch how hard or soft etc etc so ask her these things she might be shy at first but just get it out in the open...........a good sex life will improve the rest of your life no end....a bad one will make the rest of your life average imo anyway

    that reply was kinda long but went in a different direction than how i was going to....good luck anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,639 ✭✭✭PeakOutput


    it wont let me edit my other post so ill just throw this in here

    let her be on top and be in control she will soon work things out for herself


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    Isobel wrote:
    Actually the last part was meant as a joke, I think that was pretty obvious, grow the **** up, yeah like that that pic is used in colleges lol like "OK this is a vagina and these are the gooey bits" hahahaha **** off ya twat!!!! if you were any stupider you'd be a grape lol

    You're lucky Gordon got here before me, I'd have banned you for that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Isobel wrote:


    play with the "fishbone" ... ...massage her "fishbone"... ...your thumb will be massaging her clit (the "fishbone") too.

    Heres an advanced illustration just to give you guide lines if you need some


    I'm no expert on wimmens, but I'd avoid using the term 'fishbone' with her :p



    timmy69 wrote:

    making a woman orgasm has a lot to do with calibration

    Calibration:
    The process whereby the magnitude of the output of a measuring instrument is related to the magnitude of the input force driving the instrument (ie Adjusting a weight scale to zero when there is nothing on it)


    ---

    Have I missed something, or are 'fishbone' and 'calibration' common sex terms :o

    ---
    Unreg2000 wrote:
    Hi,


    Any ideas on what i can do - Not giving your girlfriend an orgasm during sex is serious in my book.


    Can she get herself off? thru masterbation? Via penentration with a dildo?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Would somebody please get Marksuttonie to give this guy some real advice goshdarnit?

    I mean fair enough, they got there, after a fashion, but the way the advice was written reads like the blind leading the blind. I dunno. I think if you read any of Marks posts ever on this topic you will probably learn a lot more about the whole sexual experience, and not limiting it to mastering oral and penetration. Everyone here seems to be jumping on just one thing saying this is the most important, the be all and end all. Really, its a little of all those things.

    Good to find the g spot.
    Treat the clitoris, but treat it well.
    Warm a girl up like an oven, dont just stick it in and press the button like a microwave.
    The girl probably isnt faking, but just mightnt orgasm from penetration.
    Lots of women cannot orgasm from penetrative sex alone.
    This does not mean that lots of women fake orgasms.
    There are lots of positions which might increase her chances of orgasming.
    Communication is your number one tool to get you through any sexual issues in a relationship.
    You know, Big picture stuff people.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭rediguana


    Why does she have to be faking just because she comes during oral / fingering? Did somebody actually say that? What kind of logic is that?

    I thought that all those surveys said most women don't find it so easy to orgasm through penetrative sex alone? It might be something like a third who do regularly, without any additional stimulation.

    OP, don't make a big thing out of it. An orgasm is an orgasm, at least she's having those. As you both become more comfortable with each other, maybe she'll start to come through just penetration, maybe not. If it's so important to you, gently guide her to finger herself as you're having sex with her. Yes, it's cheating but it's a good compromise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 152 ✭✭frizzefreckles


    dr. bollocko has the best advice I've read here. Loads of women do not orgasm thru penetration, it would seem that your girlfriend is one of these women, you can help her by trying different positions particularly ones that would help you hit her g-spot. Isobel is wrong in saying that if she is orgasming quickly through oral and 'fingering' she's faking it, you are obviously doing what she likes and therefore she is going to cum quicker. Experiment a bit and you'll find a position that satisfys both of you, but most of all have fun don't get hung up on this and allow it ruin your sex life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 322 ✭✭boffin


    Well although I don't agree with everything that Isobels post said - in terms of practical advice I thought it was pretty good.

    The key is to ask her what she likes and doesn't like --- or get her to show you- maybe if she is shy you could tell her what you like during sex and get her use to the idea of telling you.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    Isobel wrote:
    She's faking

    Unless you know the girl, I can't see how you can come to that conclusion based on what he has said above.
    The percentage of women who never cum through just penetration is very high, these same women have no problem cuming through oral means. We are all different, what works for one does not necessarily work for another.
    With regards to your g/f OP, you need to relax and work out what works best for her.
    Ask her lots of questions about what she likes best and work on your foreplay.
    Eventually it may happen for you, but if it doesn't and oral works what's the biggie if she is happy.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,315 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    The main thing people forget about orgasms is that you do not 'give' them to your partner. She has to allow herself to have them.

    Even with expert G Spot Massage if the woman is 'holding back' somewhere in her head, it will not happen. Prolonged G spot massage can be very painful and not at all pleasant for some women.

    If she's happy, let her be. Be less concerned about your 'performance' and more about her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 991 ✭✭✭aye


    Isobel wrote:
    Fingering DOES NOT mean shuving your fingers up theire!!! play with the "fishbone" first and make her wet and slowly and gently slide one in and move it in and out slowly while using your thumb to massage her "fishbone" and when she's wet enough bent the finger inside to be touching your thumb on the outside and rotate them both together gently, the finger on the inside should be on her G-spot at that point (Thats how you find it boys :p ) and your thumb will be massaging her clit (the "fishbone") too.

    think i'll write this down.


    OP this technique actually realxes women and allows them to cum easier through penetration.
    i had a girl last year who had never cum through penetration, and after using this a few times it was all good.
    there are planety of things on the web, and mens health magazine has loads of stuff about where to touch a woman.

    here's a good one i found (i'm bored)
    http://en.allexperts.com/q/Sex-Advice-Oral-2391/cum-taste.htm


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    Alot of woman dont climax just from penitrative sex alone. 90% of women (or there abouts) Need clitoral stimulation at the same time. Its no big deal really, just make sure you get her off before yourself. or you get her off after yourself, which ever you feel like. Maybe with more experience she might be able to experience a orgasm from penitration.

    When you have sex next, ask her how she likes it, what ways does she prefere ? deep, slow, fast, being teased ect ect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭SexyD4Lady


    Hi Unreg2000,

    It sounds like your girlfriend is one of many females who need clitoral stimulation to climax.

    A lot of females need clitoral stimulation to orgasm. During oral sex and when you pleasure her with your fingers, she is reaching orgasm because you are paying attention to that "special" area. During intercourse, the only stimulation your girlfriend will feel on her clitoris is slight friction, that comes alongside your thrusting.

    While having sex, try different positions to see which works best for her. Use your fingers on her at the same time, or maybe even invest in some toys that can enhance the pleasure you both gain from sex.

    Don't question your performance- this is a really common occurance and you shouldn't let it give your confidence in bed a bashing.

    Good luck!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭Kell


    Anti wrote:
    Need clitoral stimulation at the same time.

    Oh thats easy. Doggy with a busy middle finger on the fish bone.

    ROFL. Fish bone. I'll never forget that. Like the day I heard vag being described as a hatchet mark. Or bosey. That took the biccy ROFL ROFL ROFL.

    OP- not sure how old you are, but in my experience, if they tell you that its fine that they cant get off thru penetrative sex, LISTEN to them. You'll píss them off pulling a mood everytime you perceive yourself to fail. Experience tells me that so long as something gets them off, they are quite happy.

    Besides, I believe its an equal thrill for women to watch/feel their opposite cum.

    K-


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    Alright then, I may as well add to this.

    * Try a technique called The Swirler (TM) :D , clitoral stimulation using your mouth and tongue.

    What you do is after a decent bit of foreplay, encapsulate her clitoris in your mouth. Then simultaneously begin to suck in air, sucking her clit like a lollipop AND swirling your tongue around her clit in a circular motion.

    After this it is really up to you and what reactions you're getting. Maybe have a brief breather, repeat, but this time swirling your tongue in the opposite direction.

    * Another thing is to lightly blow on the aroused clitoris.

    * A great one is to apply an ice cube to the clit, alternating between the cube and our tongue on her clit. The different temperature can create good results!

    Good luck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭Kell


    * A great one is to apply an ice cube to the clit, alternating between the cube and her clit. The different temperature can create good results!

    Or if you want to be dead flash, take a mouthful of champagne and also go down. Bubbles have great effect (apparantly), just trying to keep the champers in your mouth can be a bit tricky.

    K-


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭muppetkiller


    If I may also add when have a bit of fun in the Bath when she's on top turn on the shower head and let the water spray on to her Clit ...the vibrations cause waves hahaha


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    My advice would be not to "make it your mission" to make her cum through penetrative sex everytime you have it. Sure, experiment, do different things, have fun….. But if you constantly thinking " I need to make her cum, I need to make her cum." I guarantee you that will ruin the vibe and you won't stand a chance.

    You know what works for her in other means, which is a far better boat to be in than a lot of people. Mix and match, people seem to forget that mouth and tounge can be used during and after full sex, not just before.

    Have fun, chill out about it, try new things and eventually you guys will get there. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭jesus smith


    Isobel wrote:
    She's faking, Oral and "fingering" are easy to fake so you fake and they stop, no offence but you're doing them wrong, if you weren't she'd want sex, hell she'd be gagging for it. if she was a virgin when you met and you did it wrong the first time then thats all she expects now and tries to get it over as quickly as possible. I bet with oral and fingers she "cums" really quick? thats a lie.

    that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard ever
    Apart from the fact that foreplay is an integral and amazing part of sex its a completely different part of a vagina getting stimulated with cunnilingus and masturbation(provided your just massaging the clitoris not sticking your fingers in) then during intercourse.
    also any girl who's prepared to fake an orgasm through cunnilingus of masturbation is will to do it during during sex, i mean its not like its that hard to fake, all you have to do is tremble your legs a bit get breathless and sqeeeeeze.

    listen bro, a lot of girls don't come through sex, so its not your fault.
    some learn what works for them and some never do, some women even cant come during sex because of something as stupid as a slightly ticker vagina wall which reduces the stimulation on the g spot
    however no one can blame you for trying so try these

    everyone so far has been going on about the clit and techniques to get it off but if you want her to come through sex then its the back of the clitoris inside her you need to hit, the g spot.

    my advice is try different positions,
    her gspot may be in a differant place then you think, so (gently) enter her with your finger(s), it should be about 3-5 inches in tords the front and feel like a walnut.
    its harder to find on some girls then others
    even if you can find it I'd recommend these for achieving orgasm fast

    1. Try sitting up against the head board or on a chair and have her sit on you and then go back and forth (reduces the amount of area in the vagina that the top of your penis will be hitting hence more active stimulation) put your hands on her hips and push and pull her back and forth not up and down, the trick here is consistency, you have to keep her going even if she gets tired and she wont get tired as quick if your helping.

    2.that last one works great if her g spot is further in but if its lower you should try this one,
    get her in the doggie position and enter her,then gently bring her legs in between yours then back under you till shes lying on the bed facing down
    with you in her. Then bring your legs up along side her hips so your balls are resting at the base of her ass (stay in her the whole time,it can be trick but its worth it)
    then just go at it, the natural curve of the penis will be rubbing along a long stretch of her front and should pick it out for you.this works a bit better then doggie because her legs are closed and the muscles aren't as taught but her vaginas still not getting stretched at all so theres less resistance and the first 3 inches of a vagina are the most sensitive.

    3.or if her g spot is too one side maybe try having her on top and then bringing one of her legs inside your legs and then slowly roll onto your sides ( the side where she lifted the leg obviously), this can be very tricky but it hits in different ways or you could just lay her down on her side knees up to her belly and enter her and go for it

    the key with all of these is be relaxed, if she thinks your just focused on making her come she'll get stressed that its not good sex and she'll never come, don't go "oh some bloke on the net told me to roide ya sideways!" just do it "in the name of experimentation"

    also if you are fingering dont just stick your fingers in and out slide them in gently so as not to pull on the lips try using your middle two then just start closing your fingers in breaking the joints just a little as if you where making a lower case "r" with your middle two fingers and slowly move it in a smal circle as you do this.

    4.if all else fails just get her to masturbate during sex and just as she feels shes about to climax to stop, after a few times of doing this in a row it should have the clitoris enlarged and excited to the point where pressure on the back the g spot will carry the orgasm through and hey presto.

    of course try and get her off before you have sex too as she'll be wetter and more aroused

    (also if you want to try isobels technique go ahead but the one man band is difficult to master and if shes the type who doesn't receive inter vaginal pleasure easily then you could just be waking her clit awkwardly with your thumb.)

    best of luck!
    - jesus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    75% of women can't climax during penetration alone without clitoral stimulation.
    Try stimulation her clit with you hand when you're having sex. It's probably easier do this is she's on top but it's easily doable in other positions.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭jesus smith


    Isobel wrote:
    It was genuine info, I spent over an hour givng him good advice, the picture was just a joke for everybody else to go "Like how obvious is that". I was giving you's a man joke I can't see how that is bad, esel started making it more, like for **** sake esel do you think if I didn't care I'd have wrote a fecking essay reply? it took me over an hour to reply, to write all that and in all that time I still ended up as the second poster???? if you're so ****ing smug where was all your morals when he really needed it? fuking no-where and you can go off topic now and get all righteous indignation on me but I'd be willing to bet that the advice I gave as the SECOND poster was based on nothing more than ADVICE, you used his thread to to start on me, what did you contribute?


    is there a small chance that esel might not have seen the post till later? i know its a radical thought but some people do spend time away from their computers, I think people getting mad at you is justified the guy asked for advice not judgment on his technique from someone whos never had sex with him, if i came on here looking for advice and was told straight off by the "second poster" that i was just simply crap in bed i'd be out of here sharpish before i could get any "real help"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 42 Isobel


    that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard ever heard

    hahaha are you for real? seriously I think I out rank in vaginal matters anyday

    Apart from the fact that foreplay is an integral and amazing part of sex its a completely different part of a vagina getting stimulated with cunnilingus and masturbation(provided your just massaging the clitoris not sticking your fingers in) then during intercourse.

    True
    also any girl who's prepared to fake an orgasm through cunnilingus of masturbation is will to do it during during sex, i mean its not like its that hard to fake, all you have to do is tremble your legs a bit get breathless and sqeeeeeze.

    Not true, some girls will fake cause they love the person they are with and (unlike yous) we can actually feel affection thats not based on sex
    listen bro, a lot of girls don't come through sex, so its not your fault.
    some learn what works for them and some never do, some women even cant come during sex because of something as stupid as a slightly ticker vagina wall which reduces the stimulation on the g spot
    however no one can blame you for trying so try these

    My god! no alot of girls don't cum (thats how its spelt be the way) through just bad sex and bad attempts at it and a "ticker vagina" my ass, try "small cock" next time you feel like using that phrase to blame girls.
    everyone so far has been going on about the clit and techniques to get it off

    CAUSE THEY WERE RIGHT!
    but if you want her to come through sex then its the back of the clitoris inside her you need to hit, the g spot.

    or in his case, on the head with a club, and then drag her back to your cave to make fire!
    my advice is try different positions,
    her gspot may be in a differant place then you think, so (gently) enter her with your finger(s), it should be about 3-5 inches in tords the front and feel like a walnut.

    "walnut"?? are you sure you hadn't got you finger up her ass just after Holloween? cause serously if you find a G-Spot like a walnut thats not a girl

    its harder to find on some girls then others

    I'm sorry but after the last few statements all I can say is hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
    1. Try sitting up against the head board or on a chair and have her sit on you and then go back and forth (reduces the amount of area in the vagina that the top of your penis will be hitting hence more active stimulation) put your hands on her hips and push and pull her back and forth not up and down, the trick here is consistency, you have to keep her going even if she gets tired and she wont get tired as quick if your helping.

    2.that last one works great if her g spot is further in but if its lower you should try this one,
    get her in the doggie position and enter her,then gently bring her legs in between yours then back under you till shes lying on the bed facing down
    with you in her. Then bring your legs up along side her hips so your balls are resting at the base of her ass (stay in her the whole time,it can be trick but its worth it)
    then just go at it, the natural curve of the penis will be rubbing along a long stretch of her front and should pick it out for you.this works a bit better then doggie because her legs are closed and the muscles aren't as taught but her vaginas still not getting stretched at all so theres less resistance and the first 3 inches of a vagina are the most sensitive.

    3.or if her g spot is too one side maybe try having her on top and then bringing one of her legs inside your legs and then slowly roll onto your sides ( the side where she lifted the leg obviously), this can be very tricky but it hits in different ways or you could just lay her down on her side knees up to her belly and enter her and go for it

    the key with all of these is be relaxed, if she thinks your just focused on making her come she'll get stressed that its not good sex and she'll never come, don't go "oh some bloke on the net told me to roide ya sideways!" just do it "in the name of experimentation"

    also if you are fingering dont just stick your fingers in and out slide them in gently so as not to pull on the lips try using your middle two then just start closing your fingers in breaking the joints just a little as if you where making a lower case "r" with your middle two fingers and slowly move it in a smal circle as you do this.

    4.if all else fails just get her to masturbate during sex and just as she feels shes about to climax to stop, after a few times of doing this in a row it should have the clitoris enlarged and excited to the point where pressure on the back the g spot will carry the orgasm through and hey presto.

    of course try and get her off before you have sex too as she'll be wetter and more aroused

    Now I agree with all that some of it should work, if it doesn't then check for a pulse :D
    (also if you want to try isobels technique go ahead but the one man band is difficult to master and if shes the type who doesn't receive inter vaginal pleasure easily then you could just be waking her clit awkwardly with your thumb.)

    Yet again, a typical male answer to a very discriptive set of instructions (by a person who actually owns the equipment) , listen do what he says and I bet tomorrow you'll have NO shelfs, be minus 3 screws and will think yourself lucky if you can still find 2 nuts.

    best of luck!

    Izz


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 42 Isobel


    is there a small chance that esel might not have seen the post till later? i know its a radical thought but some people do spend time away from their computers, I think people getting mad at you is justified the guy asked for advice not judgment on his technique from someone whos never had sex with him, if i came on here looking for advice and was told straight off by the "second poster" that i was just simply crap in bed i'd be out of here sharpish before i could get any "real help"

    I was already warned and I apoligised to a mod for what I said, and for the record ESEL I apoligise to you too, I was totally out of line and what I said was beneath contemp and I deserved the warning I got, it won't happen again


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Isobel wrote:
    hahaha are you for real? seriously I think I out rank in vaginal matters anyday
    so what. I have a guitar, it doesn't make me Jimi Hendrix.
    (unlike yous) we can actually feel affection thats not based on sex
    eh so can we, just like yous(sic). You really should meet more men, not boys, men.

    My god! no alot of girls don't cum (thats how its spelt be the way)
    The irony of misspelling "spelt" in that context is enough to explain the term to even the dumbest American.
    a "ticker vagina" my ass
    Bad juxtaposition of words.... Maybe it's an invite. I'm not too clear. :D
    try "small cock" next time you feel like using that phrase to blame girls.
    Issues much. He's not blaming girls.
    CAUSE THEY WERE RIGHT!
    Only partially. You do know how big the structure actually is? You do know what gets you off, may not work for others? Understanding that not everyone shares your experience and viewpoint is the beginning of wisdom.
    "walnut"?? are you sure you hadn't got you finger up her ass just after Holloween? cause serously if you find a G-Spot like a walnut thats not a girl
    I'd say hard spongy thingy, but i get the walnut analogy slightly. A spongy walnut, I suppose.
    Yet again, a typical male answer to a very discriptive set of instructions (by a person who actually owns the equipment)
    Whoopee, we know what works for you, it will work for a lot of women. It may not work for the OP's girlfriend. He needs to ask her. I've been pleasantly surprised as to what can get some women off. In one case direct stimulation of her clitoris stopped her getting much further, no matter how gentle. Women differ. Men differ. That's what's great about people. The only way to find out is by asking.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Beruthiel wrote:
    Unless you know the girl, I can't see how you can come to that conclusion based on what he has said above.

    My thoughts exactly.

    If the OP's gf is willing to fake orgasms during oral/masturbation, why not just fake it during penetrative sex as well.

    Isobel, I'm sure you meant well but your attitude in storming in like that before asking the OP to expand on his post was a bit remiss.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭jesus smith


    your a petty little thing aren't you.
    listen i have a friend whos slept with over 30 guys of various lenght/girth/race/age and has never come through penetration, now there is a chance that she just happened to have sex with a lot of really bad in bed guys but i doubt it. (for the record op she loves head)
    shes gone to gynacologists as this gets to her and they found nothing wrong.
    It can't remmember where she got the thicker vaginal wall theory, but it is plausable. its rare but it does happen,
    incidently faking orgasms isn't just a girl thing, I've done it with at least 2 girls who where crap in bed and they're none the wiser.
    now i think you'd should probably just leave it before you make an even bigger prat of yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    your a petty little thing aren't you.
    listen i have a friend whos slept with over 30 guys of various lenght/girth/race/age and has never come through penetration, now there is a chance that she just happened to have sex with a lot of really bad in bed guys but i doubt it. (for the record op she loves head)
    shes gone to gynacologists as this gets to her and they found nothing wrong.
    It can't remmember where she got the thicker vaginal wall theory, but it is plausable. its rare but it does happen,
    incidently faking orgasms isn't just a girl thing, I've done it with at least 2 girls who where crap in bed and they're none the wiser.
    now i think you'd should probably just leave it before you make an even bigger prat of yourself.

    If that is aimed at the OP, give it a rest ffs. The guy came on looking for advice and doesn't need censure.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    stovelid wrote:
    If that is aimed at the OP
    I think it's aim lies elsewhere.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Wibbs wrote:
    I think it's aim lies elsewhere.

    :o Just read back more slowly. Jesus smith, if your post was a retort to Isobel, I'm sorry dude. You didn't quote her and I jumped to conclusions.

    I'm going back to Fashion and Appearance.. :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 42 Isobel


    stovelid wrote:
    If that is aimed at the OP, give it a rest ffs. The guy came on looking for advice and doesn't need censure.

    It was mostly aimed at me but I'm wearing my bat-cape today so PING, see there it just went off to the left :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 42 Isobel


    stovelid wrote:
    :o Just read back more slowly. Jesus smith, if your post was a retort to Isobel, I'm sorry dude. You didn't quote her and I jumped to conclusions.

    I'm going back to Fashion and Appearance.. :o


    thank you stovelid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    jesus smith and Isobel, behave for fishbone's sake. Stay on topic and stop arguing like 12 year olds in the back of the car.

    Thread is resetting for the last time..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 42 Isobel


    I agree totally gordon but his name isn't fishbone lol I made that up :D:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 42 Isobel


    About the clit, cause I thought it would make more sense to him lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    :rolleyes: banned.


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