Creatine monohydrate

p-nut

Hey folks, i got this stuff free with a tub of whey protein isolate i bought a while back and dont have any intention to use it before the sell by date, which if memory serves right is june of this year.:rolleyes:

Here is a link to it: Nutrisport
The only difference is that the one i have has the older label.

So if anyone here wants it yer more than welcome to it, jus let me kno.

Dr4gul4

i'll happily subject my body to this pm me with a delivery / collection method

Hanley

Any reason why man??

p-nut

Hanley wrote:

Any reason why man??

If you're askin me that question, i dunno. I just never really considered taking creatine i suppose:rolleyes:

Should i have? Like i havnt hit any major plataus yet

Dr4gul4

Hanley wrote:

Any reason why man??

a) free

b) i'll be doing sum reading soon on how to administer said product. however i'd be happy to listen just as quick i know u want to say no drag dont take that stuff and then tell me why .. no really i actually want to know ?

Hanley

Sorry.. it was directed at P-Nut, as in why aren't you taking it?

Dr4gul4, creatine's a staple supp of mine. Both in ethyl ester and monohydrate form.

With the mono I just throw a heaped teaspoon into my RAM post workout. And the Xplode pre workout takes care of the CEE.

I really don't think there's any need to load it as some suggest. I also only take it on training days. Mainly because of 2 reasons;

1) I wouldn't waste Xplode on a non-training day

2) I've heard of studies that have shown creatine levels only return to "normal" up to 8 weeks after supplementation has stopped. If that's truly the case then a 1-2 day gap isn't gonna diminsh my stores by a noticable amount at all.

Dr4gul4

As always james great info, just 1 question as im not really tryn to bulk up ( im big enough as is ) im tryin to lean out more and of course gain lean musclein the process, would i be ok with say 1 teaspoon in with my post work out Pro-x shake ?

To be honest, im actually just curious as to the boost it's going to give me.

dave.

Hanley

Creatine won't affect your leaness levels. It MIGHT (and I stress the might part) make you appear more bloated.

Before I tried RAM or Xplode, what I used to do was just throw a teaspoon into a half drank bottle of lucozade and finish it off pre-workout, and then throw another teaspoon into my ProX postworkout and then have a bottle of lucozade sport afterwards.

You need carbs post training... ProX on it's own isn't really optimal.

mloc

Hanley wrote:

...throw a teaspoon into a half drank bottle of lucozade...

Hehe you ever have it completely fizz up and go totally flat? Damn fine insoluable powder + carbonated liquid, can get awful messy!

Hanley

mloc wrote:

Hehe you ever have it completely fizz up and go totally flat? Damn fine insoluable powder + carbonated liquid, can get awful messy!

Yup. That's why it's a half bottle. A full one goes all over the place. Like that iodine snake chem teachers love to show off with!!

Dr4gul4

Hanley wrote:

You need carbs post training... ProX on it's own isn't really optimal.

i've had Kenny say this to me also, but im still a little unsure as to why , ( more reading required ) Mainly as im cutting why would i want to consume more carbs. that would mean i'd be cutting more whole foods out during the day. and as is im pretty stretched. well i think i am, could be completely wrong.

Hanley

Dr4gul4 wrote:

i've had Kenny say this to me also, but im still a little unsure as to why , ( more reading required ) Mainly as im cutting why would i want to consume more carbs. that would mean i'd be cutting more whole foods out during the day. and as is im pretty stretched. well i think i am, could be completely wrong.

Well... simple answer = carbs replenish glycogen stores, spike insuliun and get all the nutirents to the muscles so they can go about repairing themselves.

How many kcals are you "allowed" per day?

Dr4gul4

Ya know what, i just realized this now :rolleyes: and way about to edit my post, and though, no wait he's only going to reply any way *sigh*

With my 15% drop in cals i think im toppin out at 1800 cals a day, over 5 - 6 meals. i could be wrong, however i have noticed a little reduction in the belly area, starting from the top down .

Hanley

Hmm... so you're looking at approx. 300-350 kcals per meal.

2 scoops of ProX = 200ish kcals??
2 scoops of RAM = 440 kcals

So you're looking at about 200kcals in the difference. In other words you'd need to drop about 40kcals out of each of your meals to provide for it.

That's if you want to be REALLY strict.

Personally, I'd treat the post workout window as a free period, and if it pushes you over your kcal limit by 200 I wouldn't worry TOO much.

Dr4gul4

not far off, 2 scoops of Pro x is 121 not sure about RAM i'll work it out tomorrow if i have time. im pretty sure i can cut back on milk sum how that will leave me with room wot work in the RAM post work out. however my work outs are usually during the week post 7:30 pm, and finish at 9:30 ish. which might be a little late to be consuming all those cals. but i guess i can test it and see.

Dragan

Dr4gul4 wrote:

not far off, 2 scoops of Pro x is 121 not sure about RAM i'll work it out tomorrow if i have time. im pretty sure i can cut back on milk sum how that will leave me with room wot work in the RAM post work out. however my work outs are usually during the week post 7:30 pm, and finish at 9:30 ish. which might be a little late to be consuming all those cals. but i guess i can test it and see.

It's after your workout that your body is going to use them. I would happily cut 50 calories from all my daily meals if it meant improved post workout supplementation.

I am on a cut right now and i still have my RAM after my workouts. I can pretty much guarantee that two scoops of RAM will do NOTHING to dent your progress on a cut once they are the only High GI carbs you are taking in.

Dr4gul4

Thanks for the input guys, i'll review my carb intake over the comming days ( off to galway now for a stag ) and make sure there all Low GI's im eating. as i said the only reall worry would be consuming RAM so late at nite, 9:30 ish, As i usually come home, make dinner, wait an hour and then head up to the gym.

d.