13% Off EVERYTHING in Harvey Norman Tomorrow

the-ging

Hey All,
I heard on the radio this morning that Harvey Norman is going to have 13% off everything tomorrow.

Its not huge but could save you all a few bob.

brav

Friday the 13th eh?

Pity Friday the 30th isn't as popular

andrew1977

In my opinion Harvey Normans aint that cheap to begin with, found better deals in other stores selling the same stuff

Kashkai

Yeah, I went there a month ago to but over €5k worth of gear (at their prices) for my new house and they graciously offered me a discount of €120 on the whole lot.

I got the same stuff elsewhere for €700 cheaper.

Stay away from Hardly Normal's, they're rip off merchants. Try Expert, DID, Power City first to compare prices.

johnnyrotten

Not quite true. In Airside retail park in Swords theres a Harvey Norman and a DID. I've often compared prices in both. Some stuff is much cheaper in HN and then again DID can be cheaper for other stuff. SHOP AROUND!

Bluetonic

Prosperous Dave wrote:

Stay away from Hardly Normal's, they're rip off merchants.

How is it a rip off? They clearly state the prices in advance.

smcelhinney

Bluetonic wrote:

How is it a rip off? They clearly state the prices in advance.

Let me come to the defense of my good man Dave

From Wiktionary

rip off
4. (idiomatic) to charge an exorbitant or unfair rate

So Harvey Normans prices could quite possibly be deemed a rip-off..

Funnily enough, the etymology of rip-off, from Wikipedia..

The origin of the term is from the late 1960s drug culture, where a marijuana drug seller would put a small amount of the drug in one corner of a paper-wrapped kilo (a.k.a. key, brick) of a non-marijuana look alike. Then to an unsuspecting buyer rip open that corner to prove the quality, thus the term ripoff artist, and from there the general term of being or getting ripped off.

Kashkai

Hokay then,

Rip off in my ever so humble opinion is when their obnoxious ads state that "we won't be beaten on price".

Well I shopped around and beat their price by €700. When I rang their sales assistant up (he had told me to ring him if I could get cheaper), he said there;s no way he could match that price.

I had also tried DID, Power City and Currys before I eventually bought my stuff in EXPERT in Naas. Each one of them was cheaper than Hardly Normals.

And as for "they clearly display their prices" - yeah they may very well do so but if they are charging €400 more for the same cooker, and between €50 - €130 more for the same fridges, washing machines, dryers and hoovers, then they are rip off merchants.

grahamo

I mentioned to a sales rep in harvey normans that a certain model of TV was cheaper elsewhere. he told me to buy it in the other shop as they couldn't match that price. surely then, the "we won't be beaten on price!" is total crap and false advertising. Where do we complain?

bbbbb

grahamo wrote:

..... Where do we complain?

here

viking

bbbbb wrote:

here

The ASAI have no statutory authority and are simply the advertising industries way of self-regulation, Ryanair ignore them and do not respond to any communication from them. However, most newspapers keep an eye on the bulletins and will gladly make a story out of anything that might be interesting. Harvey Norman is a big enough company and newspapers might be happy to report any breach of the codes, especially the "we won't be beaten on price" malarky.

Funnily enough, all the Harvey Norman's here seem to be franchises and prices can vary wildly from one store to another. They will sometimes moan and groan about matching a price of an item even to a price that another one of their stores is selling the same item for!

qwertplaywert

how much would they be selling ipod videos and psps for full price?

monkeyfudge

Prosperous Dave wrote:

I had also tried DID, Power City and Currys before I eventually bought my stuff in EXPERT in Naas. Each one of them was cheaper than Hardly Normals.

Sheesh.. Expert was cheap?

I used to design their catalogs many years ago and would always feel dirty after I'd spent the day trying to make their terrible prices look attractive.

Maybe they've changed.

Oracle

I agree Expert prices seem generally high to me, as do Harvey Norman, still fair dues to the OP for letting us know. I have seen mobile phones in Harvey Norman at the regular retail price minus 13% during the last sale so genuine discount there.

irelandsown

I bought a sound system in Harvey Normans in Limerick a couple of months ago. HN were selling it for €449 and Power City had the same one for €375. I printed off the price from the Power City website and HN gave it to me for €374.

Happy days.

TVDX

Prosperous Dave wrote:

Yeah, I went there a month ago to but over €5k worth of gear (at their prices) for my new house and they graciously offered me a discount of €120 on the whole lot.

What is it about people expecting to get a discount for buying alot?.
It's a shop, not a charity.
You were lucky they said 120 euros off.
It's not some sort of ye olde marketplace where you can barter.

Mylow

TVDX wrote:

What is it about people expecting to get a discount for buying alot?.
It's a shop, not a charity.
You were lucky they said 120 euros off.
It's not some sort of ye olde marketplace where you can barter.

Dont you mean he is not a charity. If I place an order in work I will push to get a discount, does that make our vendors a charity? Its called the 'real world'. If I think someone is trying to make a monthly or quarterly target I will push for a bigger discount. Shops love customers who don't look for discounts. All the EPOS systems are pre-programmed for discounts, normally need to use a management level code.

He didn't go in with a chicken and try bartering it for a DVD.

TVDX

Mylow wrote:

Dont you mean he is not a charity. If I place an order in work I will push to get a discount, does that make our vendors a charity? Its called the 'real world'. If I think someone is trying to make a monthly or quarterly target I will push for a bigger discount. Shops love customers who don't look for discounts. All the EPOS systems are pre-programmed for discounts, normally need to use a management level code.

He didn't go in with a chicken and try bartering it for a DVD.

Work is different, the point is, he DID get offered a discount and now hes complaining about it.

RobertFoster

I was in Harvey Normans in Airside today. They seem to be trying to get rid of some of their old Xbox and PS2 stock. 2 bins with 50% off marked price. The Xbox bin had nothing much, but the PS2 bin had Shadow of the Colossus, Second Sight and Psi-Ops. All with varying prices, but I think they all worked out at under €15 each with the 50% off discount.

Bluetonic

smcelhinney wrote:

Let me come to the defense of my good man Dave

From Wiktionary


So Harvey Normans prices could quite possibly be deemed a rip-off..

Funnily enough, the etymology of rip-off, from Wikipedia..

A source of everything thats good.

construct06

Do Harvey Normans have a Website?

Fnz

construct06 wrote:

Do Harvey Normans have a Website?

Don't think so.... I couldn't find one.

Kashkai

TVDX wrote:

What is it about people expecting to get a discount for buying alot?.
It's a shop, not a charity.
You were lucky they said 120 euros off.
It's not some sort of ye olde marketplace where you can barter.

And if you go to buy a car, do you pay what the nice salesman asks or do you bargain him down as much as you can?

We pay through the nose in this country for everything so perhaps if more people were prepared to haggle over prices, then we might all be better off. Or are you like all the other lemmings who just pass over the plastic and pay what you're told???

I saved €700 yo yos on the deal and all it cost me was €10 in petrol and the time spent shopping around. Finally, I'd never heard of EXPERT until they opened their new store in Naas. Maybe they just had some great opening deals, but like I said, I saved a packet which will now go towards a new 42in LCD. Maybe I'll try Hardly Normals, after all they cant be beaten on price :rolleyes:

scargill

TVDX wrote:

What is it about people expecting to get a discount for buying alot?.
It's a shop, not a charity.
You were lucky they said 120 euros off.
It's not some sort of ye olde marketplace where you can barter.

what is it about people afraid to haggle for a discount ?? I worked in a furniture store a few years back. 10% discount was available at the drop of a hat if a customer haggled a bit. It was built into the price !

fl4pj4ck

scargill wrote:

what is it about people afraid to haggle for a discount ?? I worked in a furniture store a few years back. 10% discount was available at the drop of a hat if a customer haggled a bit. It was built into the price !

you can ALWAYS get a discount
1) when paying by cash, as the shop has to pay about 3% when you pay by card
2) 'cant be beaten on price' - just find a better deal and there you go... as far as I remember you have up to 10 days for this

savemejebus

PS3s for €547 today in Harvey Normans, not a bad deal at all

randomer

fl4pj4ck wrote:

1) when paying by cash, as the shop has to pay about 3% when you pay by card

The shop do not have to pay 3% or anything near that. Most of them work on a fixed per transaction fee of about 30c.

mickoneill30

fl4pj4ck wrote:

you can ALWAYS get a discount

Totally agree. I used to work in Peats (years and years ago). If somebody asked they either got a discount or something thrown in as long as there was room to maneuver on the price. After working there I always haggle. I doubt it would work in some of chains that don't give a crap about your custom but there are plenty that do.

Slutmonkey57b

savemejebus wrote:

PS3s for €547 today in Harvey Normans, not a bad deal at all

Assuming you think the PS3 is a good deal to begin with!

savemejebus

Slutmonkey57b wrote:

Assuming you think the PS3 is a good deal to begin with!

Actually I do, seeing as it's the cheapest blu ray disc player around, as well as a pretty good game console but that's a different conversation for a different post.

MisterAnarchy

Slutmonkey57b wrote:

Assuming you think the PS3 is a good deal to begin with!

Lol.
Crazy money

Santa Claus

randomer wrote:

The shop do not have to pay 3% or anything near that. Most of them work on a fixed per transaction fee of about 30c.

I think you're confusing laser card with credit card fees there. Laser charge 30c per fee as most laser transactions are fairly small so 30c is a good deal for the merchant !

Funnily enough, best place I ever found for being able to haggle on AV prices was Brown Thomas and their prices were actually fairly accurate !

Oracle

Should the title of this thread be changed? People are going to think the 13% is off tomorrow when it's only today.

Fnz

Just back from HN. They were willing to match the €399.99 Xtravision Xbox 360 bundle which includes:

- Premium pack (20 gig hard drive, wireless controller)
- Project Gotham Racing 3
- Crackdown
- Gears Of War
- and Play+Charge lead

Talked to a pleasant chap who said that the best he could do was give me the bundle for €389.99.

Not bad but I was hoping to get the full 13% off so I passed.

Fnz

Oracle wrote:

Should the title of this thread be changed? People are going to think the 13% is off tomorrow when it's only today.

They'll check... give people some credit.

TF-2K7

anyone know if there is any harvey norman stores in Co. Kildare or the nearest place?

govinda

Naas

http://www.harveynorman.ie/locations.htm

kerrymale

Bluetonic wrote:

A source of everything thats good.

I was in the Harvey Norman store in Limerick
first let me say how well their furniture looks , anyway found a dinnning room table and 6 chairs reduced from €1499 to just €699

now guys is that what you call a "rip off"

Now another thing I work for Harvey Norman and I think that they are the only company in Ireland that offer all there staff a discount at "COST PRICE"
so with my staff discount I got that dinning room table for "€485" again is that a rip off??????

when we here that a customer finds the same ithem at a lower cost we match it even if we take a huge hit in price.

and for those of you who think were in it only to make money we are selling the xbox360 under cost .

Mossy Monk

kerrymale wrote:

and for those of you who think were in it only to make money

Isn't that what every business does? Make money.

kerrymale

the reason is simple you could easily have gotten 13% off but you would have gotten 13% the rrp. but what you cant get 13% off is on a product which is allready discounted (under cost I might add) so in fairness that guy at harvey norman gave you a very very good deal.

kerrymale

of course a business is in it for the money but what is the issue here is that Harvey norman is being wrongfully talked as rip off merchants. let me tell you that on st patricks day we ran a sale on cameras. at easter harvey norman further reduced the cameras with a nationwide sale. our margin was little over cost yet we honoured the sale. And you the customer came out on top

Mossy Monk

Go you!!!!

I'd benefit if there was a Harvey Norman close to me but alas there isn't.

Fnz

kerrymale wrote:

the reason is simple you could easily have gotten 13% off but you would have gotten 13% the rrp. but what you cant get 13% off is on a product which is allready discounted (under cost I might add) so in fairness that guy at harvey norman gave you a very very good deal.

I don't deny that it's a good deal - the Xtravision deal in my previous post is probably the best Xbox 360 bundle deal going at the minute. Fair play to the guy at Harvey Norman for bettering that deal. He did point out that they don't normally price match on "bundle offers" unless they are selling the exact same (bundle) "product" themselves.

I actually went to HN to check their digital camera prices (looking for a Fujifilm F30/F31fd/F40fd). The Swords branch had a pretty small collection of cameras with none of the Fujifilm F range - so I figured I'd pick up the 360 bundle if I could get it at 13% off the Xtravision price.

The Muppet

kerrymale wrote:

I was in the Harvey Norman store in Limerick
first let me say how well their furniture looks , anyway found a dinnning room table and 6 chairs reduced from €1499 to just €699

now guys is that what you call a "rip off"

Now another thing I work for Harvey Norman and I think that they are the only company in Ireland that offer all there staff a discount at "COST PRICE"
so with my staff discount I got that dinning room table for "€485" again is that a rip off??????

when we here that a customer finds the same ithem at a lower cost we match it even if we take a huge hit in price.

and for those of you who think were in it only to make money we are selling the xbox360 under cost .

So they were selling a dining room table that cost them "€485" for "€1499" thats over a %200 mark up. I would consider that a rip off TBH.

If you know how to read Harveys price tags you can see their markup on each item, in general they are not cheap but they do have some good deals on certain items.

ch750536

kerrymale wrote:

I was in the Harvey Norman store in Limerick
first let me say how well their furniture looks , anyway found a dinnning room table and 6 chairs reduced from €1499 to just €699

now guys is that what you call a "rip off"

Now another thing I work for Harvey Norman and I think that they are the only company in Ireland that offer all there staff a discount at "COST PRICE"
so with my staff discount I got that dinning room table for "€485" again is that a rip off??????

when we here that a customer finds the same ithem at a lower cost we match it even if we take a huge hit in price.

and for those of you who think were in it only to make money we are selling the xbox360 under cost .

Sooooo. what you are saying is that a table for a cost of €485 they retail at €1499?

I would definately say that is a ripoff without any doubt.

D'Oh! Beaten to it^^

knighted

kerrymale wrote:

I was in the Harvey Norman store in Limerick
first let me say how well their furniture looks , anyway found a dinnning room table and 6 chairs reduced from €1499 to just €699

now guys is that what you call a "rip off"

Now another thing I work for Harvey Norman and I think that they are the only company in Ireland that offer all there staff a discount at "COST PRICE"
so with my staff discount I got that dinning room table for "€485" again is that a rip off??????

when we here that a customer finds the same ithem at a lower cost we match it even if we take a huge hit in price.

and for those of you who think were in it only to make money we are selling the xbox360 under cost .

so what ur telling us is this -harvey norman bought a dining room set for 485 euros and originally tried to sell it to consumers at a profit of over 1000 euros -couldnt sell the last few so decided to clear them at 699 still making a profit of over 200 euros or 50% mark up -u have just, whether u know it or not ,confirmed to everyone here that harvey norman is a total rip off there margins are unrealistic and should leave the country as they send all there profits overseas anyway -

out of all the electrical retailers only two are 100% irish powercity and did electrical -if u can find a price u like in either of these two people should think of supporting them as they pay taxes on there profits in this country and dont ship there money abroad -in times of recession it pays to buy irish as it supports local econimies

rant over

Doodlebug

The Muppet wrote:

If you know how to read Harveys price tags you can see their markup on each item

So... ermm.... how DO you read HN's price tags to spot this info?

Kashkai

In addition to being rip off merchants, they can also be done for false advertising, i.e.,

"We won't be beaten on price"

In my original post, I stated that I managed to buy the exact same items at €700 lower than HN (I had a written quote to this effect) but when I phoned the HN salesman, he refused to beat this price or even match it. Ergo they can and will be beaten on price!!!!

HashSlinging

DID is another one that should be done for false advertising, I seen an ad on TV for a "Clearance sale" "this weekend etc" having already been in some weeks before for a full kitchen appliance quote which i had to hand, I was really interested to see this, I asked the skivvie at the desk was there a sale on, to which she confirmed there was. only when I checked the prices they were the same as a few weeks before. Went to power city and got a quote for the exact same appliances and actually got higher spec appliances for nearly 300 euros (incl delivery) better than DID/Harvey not normal.

So the story goes power city if your looking for the best price.

Fnz

HashSlinging wrote:

DID is another one that should be done for false advertising, I seen an ad on TV for a "Clearance sale" "this weekend etc" having already been in some weeks before for a full kitchen appliance quote which i had to hand, I was really interested to see this, I asked the skivvie at the desk was there a sale on, to which she confirmed there was. only when I checked the prices they were the same as a few weeks before.

It's telling that you had to ask if there was actually a sale on. I was wondering the same when I went in.

mcaul

couple of points

A 200% mark up including VAT on items brought in direct from china (as per most furniture these days) is not unusual for any store. - They buy in bulk and take a hit if it does not sell. Most people also will wait until "sales" to buy furniture and will expect 20 - 30% off the price before buying.

On clothing & footwear it is worse - most large retailers - mainly UK ones will insist on a 3.5 - 4.0 multiple from cost to retail on products under £20 and a minimu of a 3.2 multiple on all other merchandise - this allows for "fashion" markdowns.

Regarding Harvey Norman franchising - wrong. All HN stores worldwide are company owned. Ireland is being used as a test market for entry to UK.

Credit card fees - Large stores pay approx 12c per laser transaction, no matter what the value, 1% on credit card transactions and about 0.2% for cash lodgements on top of transit charges.

Retailers prefer Laser followed by credit cards and then cash is a poor third in preference.