Madwoman in Maynooth

Kashkai

Just a warning to all you good people who happen to travel west on the M4, and in particular, if you take the turn off for Maynooth.

I was travelling out that way last Saturday morning at 10a.m. when I took the slip road off the motorway. Now for anyone who knows this road, it veers sharply off to the left. As I was going round the bend of the slip road, I had to jam on my brakes as one of our "safe lady drivers" was coming straight at me heading the wrong way down the slip road so she could enter the motorway. I stopped and beeped her to warn her she was going the wrong way. Her reaction was to start mouthing off at me and beeping her horn and waving at me to get out of the way. I rolled the window down and told her again that she was going the wrong way. Her reaction was "How do you know where I'm f$cking going?". If the situation hadn't been so dangerous, I'd have laughed. However, I calmly told her she going the wrong way down a one way slip road and that she'd be entering a motorway facing in the wrong direction. She then proceeded to do a u-turn and screeched off back towards Maynooth.

Lunatics everywhere (and she probably has lower car insurance than most of us )

Alun

Did you get her reg number and report her to Trafficwatch? I would have.

blastman

It takes some effort to get that far without noticing anything wrong. How completely stupid is she?

Borderfox

That doesnt bear thinking about.

tdc

sounds like a nutjob, i would have reported her

reminds me of the film planes, trains and automobiles where theyre driving down the wrong way of the motorway and the someone on the right side is trying to tell them theyre going the wrong way- their reaction is "how does he know where were going?"

fits

I love the way this is directly attributed to her gender.
Didnt Jim McDaid do something similar when under the influence? Maybe she was on something... thats not normal behaviour. You definitely should have reported her.
As for women being safer drivers.. the numbers speak for themselves. Of 370 killed on roads last year, approximately 270 were male ( I dont know the exact numbers).

Pherekydes

Having gone to NUIM for 3 years, I saw quite a few of these. One guy on a motorbike went past me even though I was flashing/beeping him; he turned around after an artic almost creamed him. The majority were male, so it's nowt to do with gender.

starman100

Reminds me of the following gag :

Wife watching TV, sees helicopter footage of a lunatic bombing it the wrong way down the motor way.

Suddenly remembers her husband is out driving near said motorway, quickly rings his mobile and screams, "George, Geroge, be careful, theres a nutter driving down the wrong side of the motorway!!!!!"

Husband replies : "One nutter? There's fecking hundred's of the b**tards!!!!"

BeardyGit

fits wrote:

I love the way this is directly attributed to her gender.
Didnt Jim McDaid do something similar when under the influence? Maybe she was on something... thats not normal behaviour. You definitely should have reported her.
As for women being safer drivers.. the numbers speak for themselves. Of 370 killed on roads last year, approximately 270 were male ( I dont know the exact numbers).

I'd love to know what the breakdown of male versus female drivers on the road is at any time. It's something that's never mentioned when people spew these statistics....

I mean, if 25% of drivers on the road at any time are female, the above statistics would do no more than suggest men and women posed equal risk as motorists..... But we'll never know, will we? Instead, consider the number of women you see driving trucks, delivery vans, working as field service engineers, construction workers etc.... All heavy daily road users. Don't you think these figures need to be viewed in context? Are you smelling what I'm cooking sunshine?

Anan1

fits wrote:

I love the way this is directly attributed to her gender.

Is it? Where?

fits

Gil_Dub wrote:

I'd love to know what the breakdown of male versus female drivers on the road is at any time. It's something that's never mentioned when people spew these statistics....

I mean, if 25% of drivers on the road at any time are female, the above statistics would do no more than suggest men and women posed equal risk as motorists..... But we'll never know, will we? Instead, consider the number of women you see driving trucks, delivery vans, working as field service engineers, construction workers etc.... Are you smelling what I'm cooking sunshine?

I do.... and funnily enough its steaming and smelly... sunshine....

But its not the people driving trucks and delivery vans and field service engineers who are dying on the roads is it now?.... its the lads who feel the need to treat their cars as dick extensions....

fits

Prosperous Dave wrote:

........ as one of our "safe lady drivers" ....

Sorry perhaps I misinterpreted the above...

Anan1

fits wrote:

Sorry perhaps I misinterpreted the above...

Sorry, I missed that line!

_Kaiser_

In fairness it's a legitimate (and appropriately ironic - hence the " " around the comment by the OP) observation in this case given that female drivers ARE generally considered to be safer and DO get cheaper insurance as a result of this.

Personally I think if we all really want to be PC :rolleyes: , then we should all be treated equally in terms of our driving ability, insurance quotes etc, until proven otherwise.

fits

Kaiser2000 wrote:

Personally I think if we all really want to be PC :rolleyes: , then we should all be treated equally in terms of our driving ability, insurance quotes etc, until proven otherwise.

Yeah I guess so, I know a lot of young guys who are spot on in their driving and they are unfairly punished by insurance companies.
I suppose going on the statistics is the only way the insurance companies can do it, its all about risk and theres no point evaluating risk after the event.

Theres been a few posts recently about 'wimmin drivers' and it just annoys me a little.

mike65

New edict - All threads must be gender neutral!

Mike.

Gary ITR

Last week I was turning off the N7 onto the N8 when suddenly I realised the car just up ahead of me was actually reversing. Some old farmer type auld lad in an old jap import corrolla.

_Kaiser_

mike65 wrote:

New edict - All threads must be gender neutral!

Mike.

Now now Mike. You don't have teh powah around here no more!

ZiabR

Prosperous Dave wrote:

Just a warning to all you good people who happen to travel west on the M4, and in particular, if you take the turn off for Maynooth.

I was travelling out that way last Saturday morning at 10a.m. when I took the slip road off the motorway. Now for anyone who knows this road, it veers sharply off to the left. As I was going round the bend of the slip road, I had to jam on my brakes as one of our "safe lady drivers" was coming straight at me heading the wrong way down the slip road so she could enter the motorway. I stopped and beeped her to warn her she was going the wrong way. Her reaction was to start mouthing off at me and beeping her horn and waving at me to get out of the way. I rolled the window down and told her again that she was going the wrong way. Her reaction was "How do you know where I'm f$cking going?". If the situation hadn't been so dangerous, I'd have laughed. However, I calmly told her she going the wrong way down a one way slip road and that she'd be entering a motorway facing in the wrong direction. She then proceeded to do a u-turn and screeched off back towards Maynooth.

Lunatics everywhere (and she probably has lower car insurance than most of us )

I would have been out of the car with the wheel brace.... i mean, calmly told her to turn around and directed her to where she needed to go

unkel

Alun wrote:

Did you get her reg number and report her to Trafficwatch? I would have.

Of all the battles out there, this is the one I would have picked too. Any update, Prosperous Dave?

Biro

logik wrote:

I would have been out of the car with the wheel brace.... i mean, calmly told her to turn around and directed her to where she needed to go

Out with the wheel brace and showed her the correct way by "gently" coaxing her head around to the direction she should have been travelling...

ZiabR

Biro wrote:

Out with the wheel brace and showed her the correct way by "gently" coaxing her head around to the direction she should have been travelling...

lol don't you know it

Seth Brundle

Prosperous Dave wrote:

How do you know where I'm f$cking going?

Priceless!

Don't know about driving the wrong way on a motorway but I often see people reversing on them (esp. the M50). Only last week I saw some 'story bud' skanger in his modded 106 (L-Plates and all!) (very) slowly edging his way backwards towards the Tallaght exit ramp.

slumped

you have me wondering now if that was the missus..................

r3nu4l

In my 5 years driving in and out to Maynooth I never saw that happen but I did share a house with a girl in Maynooth who bought a Ford Fiesta and half way through her first driving lesson, kicked the instructor out of the car and told her to f*ck off, she'd do it herself.

She never had a lesson afterwards and within the year had 4 speeding fines, numerous parking fines, had crashed it three times into parked cars (left the scene!), crashed it into the windowsill at the front of the house and also accidentally set fire to it when she left a ciggarette burning in an overflowing ashtray stuffed with ash and shopping receipts...

While it sounds funny the same girl has since had a breakdown and is now in a home! Goes to show you just don't know who the hell is on the road in front of you or what's around the next corner!

Kashkai

I was on my way out to our new house to do some painting when I came across this eejit. Thing is, my car was full of 10 litre pots of paint that probably would have exploded in a tidal wave of magnolia if I'd hit her head on. Cops probably would have done me for having magnolia tinted windows then:D

BTW, this "lady" (and I use that term very loosely after getting a dose of her language) was driving a corolla saloon with L plates. Stupid of me not to get her reg but my first thought was "goodbye cruel world" quickly followed by "she's out early for her Sunday drive", and finally by "God, she's ugly. Perhaps she caught sight of herself in a mirror and now wants to end it all. Better let her on her way then".

Seriously though, its eejits on L plates like this one who are allowed to drive cars unaccompanied that have our roads as lethal as they are. And to all the pc concious Boardsies out there, eejits come in all shapes, sizes and from both sexes. This one just happened to be a woman, or else a very ugly man in drag

Seth Brundle

Prosperous Dave wrote:

God, she's ugly.
<snip>
This one just happened to be a woman, or else a very ugly man in drag

ROFLMAO

GreeBo

Prosperous Dave wrote:

Seriously though, its eejits on L plates like this one who are allowed to drive cars unaccompanied that have our roads as lethal as they are.

while there is no doubt this one was an idiot a car with L plates doesnt always mean a learner driver.
PLenty of people share cars with children, partners etc.

If you want to see crap driving borrow a car with a L plate on it and strap yourself in. There is no speed you can go at that you wont be overtaken.

jmayo

Just to show it is not just down to sex...
I remember number of years ago watching lady driving wrong way around the Parkway roundabout on Dublin road in Limerick. This was at 3pm and as some people may know it is very busy roundabout, so why she decided to drive opposite direction to all other traffic beats me?
Another occassion on N11 passing Cornellscourt met guy in old jeep driving down wrong side of dual carriageway at 11 am.
And btw they were definetly not foreigners who were used to driving on other side of road.

Kashkai

GreeBo wrote:

while there is no doubt this one was an idiot a car with L plates doesnt always mean a learner driver.
PLenty of people share cars with children, partners etc.

If you want to see crap driving borrow a car with a L plate on it and strap yourself in. There is no speed you can go at that you wont be overtaken.

True but this car did have an L plate and she was driving the wrong way down a motorway slip road and thus I'd safely say she was an inexperienced driver who should take more care while on the public highway. In other words she should find another way to kill herself, preferably one that wouldn't involve taking anyone else, especially me, with her.

prospect

fits wrote:

I love the way this is directly attributed to her gender.

Ah get off your high horse. If anything it is you who is the sexist here.
I see plenty of threads about guys breaking road rules, and doing stupid things, but no one comes on spouting about gender issues.

Have you nothing to do but come on here and try and make a issue out of something that isn't an issue. The fact is that the OP saw a WOMAN drive doing something utterly reckless behind the wheel. Accept it.

um7y1h83ge06nx

jmayo wrote:

Just to show it is not just down to sex...
I remember number of years ago watching lady driving wrong way around the Parkway roundabout on Dublin road in Limerick. This was at 3pm and as some people may know it is very busy roundabout, so why she decided to drive opposite direction to all other traffic beats me?

Know the one! How thick could she have possibly been? That roundabout is almost always very busy during the day, surely she had seen the other traffic! :eek:

I saw an old guy beginning to drive the wrong way around the Raheen roundabout beside the South Court Hotel one day, and that's a busy roundabout too!

cold_filter

My mam has just started driving i can see her doing something like this very very soon

fits

prospect wrote:

An I am afraid that the drivers of three cars I met on single lane roads this morning were all female..

posted by you in another thread... How is this relevant??? Who is the sexist? I didnt have to search to hard to find this.
I'm not trying to defend the indefensible here, the lady in question is quite clearly mad (and has a sense of humour). But to lump all lady drivers into the same category is unfair!
I also said in the thread that many of my friends are very safe drivers who are unfairly penalised by insurance companies because of their gender/age.

prospect wrote:

Ah get off your high horse. If anything it is you who is the sexist here.
I see plenty of threads about guys breaking road rules, and doing stupid things, but no one comes on spouting about gender issues.

Have you nothing to do but come on here and try and make a issue out of something that isn't an issue. The fact is that the OP saw a WOMAN drive doing something utterly reckless behind the wheel. Accept it.

Its the 'one of our safe lady drivers' comment I objected to..

NeMiSiS

Saw a girl in with L plates up and the boyfriend in the car yesterday, trying to turn right across 3 lanes of traffic, which she would have had to cross a hatched markings to do so, completely oblivious to the danger, illegality.. and the roundabout 50m down the road to her left..
TK

prospect

fits wrote:

posted by you in another thread... How is this relevant???

Because they were all female, because it was foggy, because they had no lights on, because it was a narrow road, they were all facts. How is it sexist too report facts?
Am I 'weather-ist" because I said it was foggy?

Maybe the reason you didn't have too dig too hard is probably because there are more bad female drivers out there than you would care to admit to.

layke

kbannon wrote:

Priceless!

Don't know about driving the wrong way on a motorway but I often see people reversing on them (esp. the M50). Only last week I saw some 'story bud' skanger in his modded 106 (L-Plates and all!) (very) slowly edging his way backwards towards the Tallaght exit ramp.

Why didn't he justy drive straight over and back onto the M50

fits

prospect wrote:

Maybe the reason you didn't have too dig too hard is probably because there are more bad female drivers out there than you would care to admit to.

I'll admit to it, theres a lot of bad female drivers out there! Some are less skilled than most men but thats probably because some men view driving as proof of their masculinity. It doesnt mean all female drivers are bad drivers though... Not by a long way.
Once again, I'll give you the stats 370 dead on the roads last year, 270 were male. Both genders are guilty of bad driving albeit generally in different ways.

I'm generally a good driver, but sometimes I do make mistakes. I'd like these to be attributed to me as an individual rather than me as a woman driver.

GreeBo

layke wrote:

Why didn't he justy drive straight over and back onto the M50

he was reversing back up the M50 to get to the off ramp, not reversing back down the ramp...

fitz wrote:

Once again, I'll give you the stats 370 dead on the roads last year, 270 were male.

and once again we will ask you for the break down in male /female drivers for the same period.

Maybe 1% of drivers are women, using your "facts" that makes them incredibly worse drivers than men.

fits

GreeBo wrote:

and once again we will ask you for the break down in male /female drivers for the same period.

Maybe 1% of drivers are women, using your "facts" that makes them incredibly worse drivers than men.

Ah come on! Thats complete bull. Perhaps Monday to Friday 9-5 there are more men driving on the roads, but thats not when the majority of fatal accidents occur is it?
I'm sure there is a good reason why insurance companies assign more risk to young male drivers (even if they perhaps abuse this). Yeah its probably because they're riskier to insure... funnily enough!

prospect

fits wrote:

I'll admit to it, theres a lot of bad female drivers out there! Some are less skilled than most men but thats probably because some men view driving as proof of their masculinity.

I would agree with this. And certainly I would be inclined to say, some women are becominging increasingly agressive

fits wrote:

It doesnt mean all female drivers are bad drivers though... Not by a long way

Once again, I agree. It is completely irrational to say all men or women are good/bad drivers. If life was only that simple.

fits wrote:

Once again, I'll give you the stats 370 dead on the roads last year, 270 were male.

I don't think this stastic means a whole lot. For a start, some of these unfortunate people were pedestrians, and alot were passengers. Also, the person killed is not always the person at fault, take the example of the circus trailer disconnecting from the truck and killing the people in the car behind.
Also, I think you will find that there are far more male drivers on the roads than female. I had dinner once with a senior manager of hibernian insurance. He confirmed that there are far more accidents caused by women, but these are usually minor. But, more fatal/serious injury accidents are caused by male drivers.


But I still stand by my first post. The OP is only telling a story, and to turn it into a gender issue is more sexist than anything he said.

GreeBo

fits wrote:

Ah come on! Thats complete bull. Perhaps Monday to Friday 9-5 there are more men driving on the roads, but thats not when the majority of fatal accidents occur is it?

So what you are saying is that if you only look at actual accidents then men have more than women?
Ehh hello? That just proves our point.
If there are more men driving on the roads 9-5 then surely there should be loads more accidents if men are worse drivers?

You cant prove anything with dodgy stats like you have.

Seth Brundle

Its not an accurate reflection of male Vs female drivers to simply say that of those that died last year, 270 were male. How many of those that died were pedestrians, cyclists, passengers, etc.? Was the incident caused by the driver that died or was it a surviving driver that caused it?
Males may or may not be responsible for the majority of fatalities but to group all deceased males into the one category is not accurate!

fits

GreeBo wrote:

So what you are saying is that if you only look at actual accidents then men have more than women?
Ehh hello? That just proves our point.
If there are more men driving on the roads 9-5 then surely there should be loads more accidents if men are worse drivers?

You cant prove anything with dodgy stats like you have.

They're not dodgy stats they're real numbers! You can twist it any way you want.
If you want to do a statistical study on the amount of drivers on the roads, their age profile, whether drink driving or drugs (prescription or other wise) are involved, I'd be very interested in reading it.
For now, all we can go on is the actual fatality numbers, and the risk assigned by insurance companies to each group... all of which would imply that men are more dangerous drivers.
If you have any actual numbers to the contrary, you have a genuine argument. Until then, you are just talking out of your behind.

GreeBo

fits wrote:

They're not dodgy stats they're real numbers! You can twist it any way you want.

You are twisting it to prove your point mate.
I dont actually have a feeling for which category are the worse drivers.

Can you not see that your numbers in isolation dont prove anything?
What if there were only 100 women drivers on the road. By your stats they all died so therefore all women drivers are crap and will kill themselves on the road.
Numbers like that alone are worse than useless, they get used as facts by people such as yourself.

Seth Brundle

fits wrote:

If you have any actual numbers to the contrary, you have a genuine argument. Until then, you are just talking out of your behind.

If you read my post above then you will see that Greebo isn't the only one talking from there!

OldmanMondeo

Sorry to go back on topic, that Maynooth junction is a nightmare. I pass it every day, on heading to Dublin, a lot of cars joining the M4 tend to head straight to the outside lane andf then build up their speed. Very annoying and dangerous when you have already moved over to let them onto the motorway and then to get all sorts of gestures because you blow or flash them.
Heading west is nearly as bad, Cars will fly past in the outside lane and at the last minute force their way into the inside lane so the can make the exit.

blastman

IMO, the OP's comment "one of our safe lady drivers" was meant to highlight the fact that gross generalisations aren't helpful and there are always exceptions. You say it's unfair to lump all lady drivers into the same category, and I agree. But you then appear to be happy enough to do the same where it helps your argument (the comment about insurance companies and young male drivers).

What's sauce for the goose, etc.

GreeBo

OldmanMondeo wrote:

S Very annoying and dangerous when you have already moved over to let them onto the motorway and then to get all sorts of gestures because you blow or flash them.

Should it be a rule of the road to move into the outside lane (or at least leave one inside lane free) around on ramps?
I think they are the most dangerous part of a motorway and people either fly on with no regard or come to a complete stop as they cant get in.

Seth Brundle

OK lets take it from now on that the OP wasn't generalising and focus on the idiot driver rather than wimmin as a whole!

GreeBo

NeMiSiS wrote:

Shouldn't have to move anywhere, that's what merging lanes are for.
TK

Merging lanes that are sometimes only 100m long and on motorways when there is only 1 driving lane are a bit useless when the road is anyway busy...