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BMWR1100R - I think I'm getting old !!!

  • 08-04-2007 3:36pm
    #1
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭


    I spent the morning drooling over BMW R850R & R1100R's on ebay and the web.

    Has anyone any expierience with them without stating the obvious that they're a BMW or an old mans bike. Bearing in mind I just turned 28 and I'm sitting here in my comfy trousers and slippers :D

    I'm looking for a sensible bike after my little "incident" yesterday and this seems to tick all my boxes.


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  • #2
    madrab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭madrab


    oh god...


  • #3
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    madrab wrote:
    oh god...


    You just shut it :p leather-boy


  • #4
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,823 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    bought first BeeEmm in 90, at age 23. Have had 20 since. QED, methinks......

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #5
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,823 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    bought first BeeEmm in 90, at age 23. Have had 20 since. QED, methinks......

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #6
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    galwaytt wrote:
    bought first BeeEmm in 90, at age 23. Have had 20 since. QED, methinks......

    What do you have at the moment ?


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  • #7
    Steffano2002
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,918 ✭✭✭Steffano2002


    Fed up waving at other bikers already KTRIC?


  • #8
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,823 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    actually, for the first time since 1990, I'm BeeEmm less - a temporary interlude, I assure you - and am faffing about on an 05 H-D Road King Custom. Frickin' hilarious, btw....

    K1200GT in the pipeline for next year. One should always have a BeeEmm in the stable, dontchaknow...........most of mine were old K's, then R's, to include GS's, 1100/1150/1200, and RT's of 1100/1150. Not gone on the look of the RT12 though........

    Oh, a gaggle of F's, too.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #9
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    Steffano2002 wrote:
    Fed up waving at other bikers already KTRIC?

    I don't go in for this bike snobery thing that "some" BMW / Harley drivers have. I buy a bike because I like it , not a fashion accessory.

    I have a lovely girlfriend so I don't need a chick magnet any more ;)


  • #10
    Steffano2002
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,918 ✭✭✭Steffano2002


    KTRIC wrote:
    I don't go in for this bike snobery thing that "some" BMW / Harley drivers have. I buy a bike because I like it , not a fashion accessory.
    Good answer! ;)


  • #11
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,823 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    btw, I'm no snob, either. I also have an '87 Vespa PX125 which I love at least as much, if not more, than the 'nice stuff'. Likewise my 89 RGV250K - now 16 years with me.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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  • #12
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    galwaytt wrote:
    btw, I'm no snob, either. I also have an '87 Vespa PX125 which I love at least as much, if not more, than the 'nice stuff'. Likewise my 89 RGV250K - now 16 years with me.

    Really sorry man, wasn't talking about you. I have met some bike snobs and they always seem to be on Harley's or BMW's.


  • #13
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,823 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    no offense taken, was just filling in the blanks. Frankly, it it's got two wheels and an engine, I'm game to try it.....and so long as you're on two wheels too, I won't care what you ride.

    Oh, I commute on an Aprilia Atlantic 500 superscooter too......can't say I don't vary the types !!

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #14
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    galwaytt wrote:
    no offense taken, was just filling in the blanks. Frankly, it it's got two wheels and an engine, I'm game to try it.....and so long as you're on two wheels too, I won't care what you ride.

    Oh, I commute on an Aprilia Atlantic 500 superscooter too......can't say I don't vary the types !!


    I'll ride anything , I will ;) (shut up Sutty), but my missus is a bike snob. She hates cruisers / choppers etc.


  • #15
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,823 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    KTRIC wrote:
    but my missus is a bike snob. She hates cruisers / choppers etc.

    maybe, but dumping her in the Sally Gap is a bit extreme LOL !!:p

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #16
    Idleater
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,236 ✭✭✭Idleater


    galwaytt wrote:
    bought first BeeEmm in 90, at age 23. Have had 20 since. QED, methinks......


    Yeah, 20 bmw's in 17 years, means a blow up rate of >1 per anum :D

    K-Tric, what about the k1200rs?

    L.


  • #17
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    nereid wrote:

    K-Tric, what about the k1200rs?

    L.

    Why, are you trying to sell one ?


  • #18
    art
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭art


    nereid wrote:
    Yeah, 20 bmw's in 17 years, means a blow up rate of >1 per anum :D
    That's what I was thinking too - took 20 bikes to find one that worked??? Not a great recommendation ...


  • #19
    Idleater
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,236 ✭✭✭Idleater


    KTRIC wrote:
    Why, are you trying to sell one ?

    Not a chance.

    I would rather spend a ridiculous amount of money on a Italian bike than a BMW.

    Personally, I admire the K1200 purely for doing something "innovative" by making something actually different (fast). Another one I "like" (I use the term loosely) is the Boxxer cup R1200S. I don't like many of the other BMW's.



    L.


  • #20
    Bradidup
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Bradidup


    nereid wrote:
    Not a chance.

    I would rather spend a ridiculous amount of money on a Italian bike than a BMW.

    L.
    I would rather spend that kind of money on two good jap bikes, you would also be getting double the reliability over the Italian bikes.


  • #21
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    I have my eye on a '00 BMW R1100R in Germany at the mo, its got just over 6500 kilometers on it and its about €5k and in mint condition.


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  • #22
    madrab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭madrab


    drop into joe duffys & you can take a testdrive on one


  • #23
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,823 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    KTRIC wrote:
    I have my eye on a '00 BMW R1100R in Germany at the mo, its got just over 6500 kilometers on it and its about €5k and in mint condition.


    tbh, that's not bad, but not a bargain.........new bikes cheaper in Germany, but depreciation is slower, too........

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #24
    Idleater
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,236 ✭✭✭Idleater


    Bradidup wrote:
    I would rather spend that kind of money on two good jap bikes, you would also be getting double the reliability over the Italian bikes.

    True, but this thread is talking about "wasting" money.

    In that regard, I would rather waste it on an Aprilia, than a BMW.

    In fact, I would rather buy a Triumph triple and have it blow to bits, than buy a BMW.

    L.


  • #25
    Bradidup
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Bradidup


    nereid wrote:
    True, but this thread is talking about "wasting" money.

    L.
    In that case it would definitally waste it on a Ducati rather than a Bmw.


  • #26
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,823 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    art wrote:
    That's what I was thinking too - took 20 bikes to find one that worked??? Not a great recommendation ...

    no, simple logic: it's cheaper than servicing it and buying tyres !! And I liked different colours, or a nice spec came up (one came with MiniDisc etc fitted), then wanted light, simple -got an F. First trip to Dublin from Galway, in December, sorted that - back to a K then. Then hated the K's bobbing/weaving thing at speed, so went to R's. Then newer R's. Then GS's....then.....

    oh, and I'm fickle.

    Like, very.

    My last RT depreciated 3k in just over 3 years. That's bloody cheap motoring. Once you get the first good one, it's easy to keep on top of it. The first one is a killer, though, just gathering it.

    Well, that's what I keep telling myself about the RK I just spent Charlie McCreevy's money on........... :o

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #27
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    madrab wrote:
    drop into joe duffys & you can take a testdrive on one


    Might head up there soon. To be honest I'm looking for a bike with a shaft, decent amount of thorque and 3 disk breaks. The BMW fills all these requirements and myself and the missus like the look of it.

    Unless someone can recommend something else ?. I have a while before I buy one as I need to sell my W650 first.


  • #28
    madrab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭madrab


    pan, deavelle(sp), wing(well considering you are thinking of trying to sellout with a bmw why not with a honda :D)


  • #29
    madrab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭madrab


    Ural dalesman you know you want to!


  • #30
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    madrab wrote:
    Ural dalesman you know you want to!

    I know I want to , call me whipped but I'm not brave enough to put it to the missus :(

    madrab wrote:
    pan, deavelle(sp), wing(well considering you are thinking of trying to sellout with a bmw why not with a honda )

    Not a big fan of the Dullsville or a 2 wheeled cage ;)



    Can someone please tell me what the problem people have with BMW's, am I missing something ??.


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  • #31
    Idleater
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,236 ✭✭✭Idleater


    KTRIC wrote:
    Can someone please tell me what the problem people have with BMW's, am I missing something ??.

    Jealousy? I dunno. Whether you like it or not, they have a rep, and there is a (minority???) of BMW Bikers who think that everyone else is below them because they can afford the BMW badge.

    Like I said, personally, I don't like the value for money aspect of them. I have no doubt that technically the k1200r is a beast, and yes Ewan and Charlie got across the world on a GS, but, so did yer man on an R1, at a fraction of the cost, and with less damage (it seemed).

    BMW have a very very good advertising department, and they have a certain segment of the bike market guaranteed. It just so happens that many "bikers" feel that "real" bikers don't see EmcG and CB on TV and decide that because they have a 530, they can buy a RT, and get the "out of my way, I'm a biker damn it" attitude.

    Personally I enjoy annoying BMW bikers who think that their bikes handle so well, and are so quick, but yet there is some crappy jap SV keeping up with them.

    L.


  • #32
    Wossack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,044 ✭✭✭Wossack


    Not seen it mentioned, you asking about alternatives with shaft drive, 3 discs etc :

    K1200R.jpg

    k1200r, love at first sight for me, I shall own one some day! :P


  • #33
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    Wossack wrote:
    Not seen it mentioned, you asking about alternatives with shaft drive, 3 discs etc :

    K1200R.jpg

    k1200r, love at first sight for me, I shall own one some day! :P

    Don't like the lights on that and its a bit outside of my price range at the moment.


  • #34
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    nereid wrote:
    Jealousy? I dunno. Whether you like it or not, they have a rep, and there is a (minority???) of BMW Bikers who think that everyone else is below them because they can afford the BMW badge.

    Like I said, personally, I don't like the value for money aspect of them. I have no doubt that technically the k1200r is a beast, and yes Ewan and Charlie got across the world on a GS, but, so did yer man on an R1, at a fraction of the cost, and with less damage (it seemed).

    BMW have a very very good advertising department, and they have a certain segment of the bike market guaranteed. It just so happens that many "bikers" feel that "real" bikers don't see EmcG and CB on TV and decide that because they have a 530, they can buy a RT, and get the "out of my way, I'm a biker damn it" attitude.

    Personally I enjoy annoying BMW bikers who think that their bikes handle so well, and are so quick, but yet there is some crappy jap SV keeping up with them.

    L.


    So its an "us and them" thing !!! :confused:

    Anyone that knows me knows that I love Jap bikes and have a thing about retro and 70's Jap bikes. But I have the greatest respect for BMW's as well. They've been making bikes for over 80 years now, a lot longer than any other Jap manufacturers.

    I wouldn't class them any better or any worse than their Jap counter-parts. Admittedly there are a lot of "new money" Irish that buy BMW's and think they are buying into a lifestyle and are better than everyone else. I've met people with Harley's and Ducati's (not Sutty ;)) who think the same.


  • #35
    MrPudding
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    nereid wrote:

    Personally I enjoy annoying BMW bikers who think that their bikes handle so well, and are so quick, but yet there is some crappy jap SV keeping up with them.

    L.

    Funny, I thought it was the other way round.

    KTRIC wrote:
    So its an "us and them" thing !!! :confused:
    Maybe. I think it is more an us and them thing with the people that don't ride BMWs having the problem.

    I think a lot of riders, when they see someone on a bmw, assume they are a snob. I am sure there are a lot that are but I have met a lot that aren't.

    KTRIC wrote:

    I wouldn't class them any better or any worse than their Jap counter-parts. Admittedly there are a lot of "new money" Irish that buy BMW's and think they are buying into a lifestyle and are better than everyone else. I've met people with Harley's and Ducati's (not Sutty ;)) who think the same.

    TBH I find the worst snobs to be cruiser riders. I did a few miles on mainland Europe over th weekend and got waves or nods from all bikers except those on crusiers. Harley riders seem to be the biggest snobs.

    MrP


  • #36
    Idleater
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,236 ✭✭✭Idleater


    MrPudding wrote:
    Funny, I thought it was the other way round.

    It would be the other way around if the SV rider was going out of their way to zoom past the BMW rider to make a point of how quick their bike was.

    However, as the rider who generally is keeping to themselves, only to find that they are being "prooven" against, then, it wounds the BMW driver's pride more than the SV.

    KTric, I think it is an "us and them" thing in so far as some bikers are concerned.
    Particularly because of the "new money" BMW bikers.

    It is not something I would be concerned about in the slightest, because I am not an Us and Them type biker, but you asked what the reason behind the BMW bike thing.

    And to be fair to you, you are not looking at the top of the range BMW, no offence mind, but that bike is less likely to attract the Cappucino maker/Peasant button jokes than other models in the BMW stable.

    Oh, and as for the heritage of BMW bikes, to the Us and Them brigade, that started with Ewan and Charlie ditching KTM for the GS's.

    At the end of the day, it's your bike. You afforded the BMW badge, not me. If I feel like I have to prove myself to you, then it is my loss not yours. Similarly, if you feel that you need to prove your BMW badge to me, then don't be sad if/when it is matched by what is a lower class of bike.

    (the 'you' and 'me' in the last paragraph is the generic BMW owner and non BMW owner, not any one particular person.)

    L.


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  • #37
    Steffano2002
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,918 ✭✭✭Steffano2002


    I have nothing against BMW riders however not a single one of them has ever replied to my waves/nods... :o

    And if it's because they think they are too good to do so because they are riding a bike with a BMW badge well I think that's the saddest thing in the world... I mean how sad must your life be if you think that way? No... I think they're all normal bikers but they just don't see me because they're too old :p


  • #38
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    Steffano2002 wrote:
    I have nothing against BMW riders however not a single one of them has ever replied to my waves/nods... :o

    And if it's because they think they are too good to do so because they are riding a bike with a BMW badge well I think that's the saddest thing in the world... I mean how sad must your life be if you think that way? No... I think they're all normal bikers but they just don't see me because they're too old :p

    Well if I get a BMW , I'll wave at you all ;) But them secretly dis your bikes behind your backs :D


  • #39
    Krusty_Clown
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,550 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    A snob is "a person regarded as arrogant and annoying". They come in all shapes and sizes, these arrogant and annoying people. Snobs can be a small clique of people who believe they are better than anyone else, or a small clique of people who resent others because of what they themselves don't have (historically a noble title).

    So you don't have to own a bmw to be a snob, although I'm sure it helps.. ;)


  • #40
    madrab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭madrab


    yeh i have come acroww a few bmw snobs but i have come across far more harley snobs

    my main beef about bmw's is the price & how awkward they are to work on, so many needless fiddleybits that require special tools - it will drive you mad


  • #41
    madrab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭madrab


    yeh i have come acroww a few bmw snobs but i have come across far more harley snobs

    my main beef about bmw's is the price & how awkward they are to work on, so many needless fiddleybits that require special tools - it will drive you mad


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  • #42
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    madrab wrote:
    yeh i have come acroww a few bmw snobs but i have come across far more harley snobs

    my main beef about bmw's is the price & how awkward they are to work on, so many needless fiddleybits that require special tools - it will drive you mad

    You're joking right !!! :eek:

    Me, fix my own bike !! what do you think I am a peasant ??




    Jaysus, I haven't even bought it yet and I can feel the snobyness creaping in.


  • #43
    Idleater
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,236 ✭✭✭Idleater


    Krusty_Clown wrote:
    A snob is "a person regarded as arrogant and annoying". They come in all shapes and sizes)

    A snob is entirely subjective.

    A person that is a loathed snob to me could be an envy in someone else's eyes.

    BMW drivers, seem to happen to have been caught in the Union of snobbery in many other marques riders' eyes.

    L.


  • #44
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,823 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    madrab wrote:
    yeh i have come acroww a few bmw snobs but i have come across far more harley snobs

    my main beef about bmw's is the price & how awkward they are to work on, so many needless fiddleybits that require special tools - it will drive you mad

    a qualified bike mechanic, having trained and studied in the UK, I can tell you that there's nothing difficult about working on Bee Emms. Some special tools make life easier, but neither more nor less than any other bike, these days..... Now, changing the plugs on a VFR or new gen Fireblade.........don't get me started.

    An R1100R is very easy to work on. An RT would be a bit more, mainly due to taking off the plastic every time, but the mechanic's are the same. GS' are somewhere in the middle.

    Yes, new Bee Emm's are expensive, so what? If he's found one in his price range, well then it obviously..........isn't.

    edited by galwaytt - irrelevant off topic comment, deleted.........KTRIC is right....

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #45
    Krusty_Clown
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,550 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    nereid wrote:
    A snob is entirely subjective.
    I was using a dictionary definition. It's a clear form of snobbery to look down on others because of the brand of bike they own.


  • #46
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    Look lads, I was looking for some info on the bikes, not to start an argument.

    I know the whole snobbery thing can get some bikers a bit hot under the collar, but this thread is getting a bit silly.


  • #47
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,823 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    okelydokely - back to the topic.

    Grand bike, only rode an R850R - arguably a bit 'sweeter', but obviously not as quick, either. Mind you, it'd be cheaper, too.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #48
    Krusty_Clown
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,550 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    I had a loan of an r1150r for two days.. Compared to the SV1k and the 12GS I found it a little gutless, but it was a road test bike, so had probably been thrashed pretty thoroughly by the time I got it.

    You should try Maddocks for a test ride as well. I wouldn't buy a second-hand bike there, as the prices are not comparable to picking up the bike in Germany if that's a viable option, but see if you can take one for a test spin anyway..


  • #49
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    Krusty_Clown wrote:
    I had a loan of an r1150r for two days.. Compared to the SV1k and the 12GS I found it a little gutless, but it was a road test bike, so had probably been thrashed pretty thoroughly by the time I got it.

    You should try Maddocks for a test ride as well. I wouldn't buy a second-hand bike there, as the prices are not comparable to picking up the bike in Germany if that's a viable option, but see if you can take one for a test spin anyway..

    I'm going to head up to Joe Duffy's soon and have a look at the 2 they have.


  • #50
    art
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭art


    madrab wrote:
    yeh i have come acroww a few bmw snobs but i have come across far more harley snobs

    my main beef about bmw's is the price ... mad

    I'd agree with that, on both counts: Harleys are the most annoying bikes on the planet and drivers just behind that; BMWs are excessively expensive - eg comparing the Triumph Tiger new with the GS1200, to get basically the exact same spec (ie same bhp, heated grips, luggage etc) you pay BMW 5,000 euros more ... That's a hefty difference in price ...

    But some of the BMW models are very classy and they've really improved the options in the last few years and been very innovative (eg with bikes like the F650). I've also had a fair few good chats with BMW riders at lights (though not, for some reason with GS riders???).


  • #51
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    I had a 01' BMW R1100R today for an hour on loan from Joe Duffy in Finglas. Nice ride, very comfy, but my pipe kept blowing out and my slippers kept falling off.

    The search continues ......


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