Why is bowling so expensive?

califano

Why is bowling so expensive*?.
In my opinion bowling would be much more popular in Ireland if it was more affordable for what you get. Currently imo the price of bowling is far too high keeping it an occasional persuit for most. I really like the game but the high price certainly wouldnt encourage me to take it up as a regular hobby.

I mean there cant be much overheads?. Ok the lanes need to polished and maintained and fitters hired to keeping things working but that seems to be pretty much it, its just lane time. So why is it that bowling so expensive keeping most of us as occasional players?.

The high price of bowling hasnt been a thing ive heard discussed much maybe because we dont want to appear to be skin flints? Am i on my own or do you think it would be played more if it were a cheaper persuit?


*(example of current prices of one of the bigger bowling places in Dublin)MON-SUN 7PM-12AM €40.00 PER HOUR or €7.25 PER GAME.

r3nu4l

I have to agree with you completely rounders! I've no idea why the game is so expensive and I worked in a bowling alley!

If it's any consolation bowling is just as expensive in the UK. I do know that the initial set up is very, very expensive. We're talking huge! Especially for alleys using older machines and wooden lanes (not many wooden lanes left these days!).

The reason I first started playiing bowling was because at that time a 1 hour lesson was cheaper than booking a lane for an hour...so myself and my brother used to pay for an hour coaching.

I'm not sure how it works these days in Ireland but league bowling used to be far cheaper than casual bowling and I have to say that it's more enjoyable since you get to know the regulars and they help you improve!

DubTony

rounders123 wrote:

Why is bowling so expensive*?.

*(example of current prices of one of the bigger bowling places in Dublin)MON-SUN 7PM-12AM €40.00 PER HOUR or €7.25 PER GAME.

Apart from losing my balls ... eh, I'll re-phrase that. One of the reason I didn't replace my kit after the car was stolen was the cost. Buying two new balls and a couple of pairs of shoes wasn't the issue. At the time a ball was about £120, so I was looking at £500 max. The real issue for me was the cost of bowling. 10 years ago to bowl in Tallaght in the evening would set you back £15 an hour IIRC. So €40 doesn't really surprise me. It's absolutely outrageous.

I think the main reason for this is that there was a practical monopoly on bowling alleys in Dublin after the Leisureplex people bought up anything they could. Initial investment must be massive and a desire to get that investment back asap is obviously going to increase the price to the punter. And that crack of paying at the door? WTF?

When 6 people can play for an hour for €40 it seems like OK value, until they actually realise that it can be difficult to have good craic and play a full game in an hour. Having said that, I'm sure the owners know their stuff and are happy to screw their customerrs for as muc as they can.

Tails142

Yeah I dont get it either, these bowling alleys are open 24 hours but are left empty most of the time cause its so bleed expensive

Time Magazine

I suppose that's how they make the most profit.

No justification for it though.

r3nu4l

DubTony's point about the Leisureplex near-monopoly on everything in Dublin is quite true and valid but is reflected somewhat by the Bowling alley in Clonmel charging €30+ an hour for bowling...probably because it's new and they want to recoup investment quickly and because there are no bowling alleys anywhere nearby!

It's the same in the UK, Hollywood Bowl, AMF Bowl and 10Pin are the major players over here and prices are very high. It is a pity because bowling is a very family-friendly game yet not family friendly on the pocket

califano

DubTony wrote:

And that crack of paying at the door? WTF?

This is refundable off the bowling if you produce your €1 entry reciepts when paying for bowling.

Thats bad news about your car getting stolen with all your bowling stuff too.

DEmeant0r

In Hong Kong, you could play an hour bowling for around €20, and a single game for around €3 - €4, but that's because there's so many bowling alleys and competition is stiff, if you were to set up a new alley in HK, I don't think it would last very long if you were to charge anything above the mentioned prices in this post.

glen290

I agree with r3nu4l, its pretty expensive over in the uk, but being a league bowler, we do get a pretty good discount, so its now £1.60 a game, as opposed to £3.80 :rolleyes:

bbability

Having worked and managed in a Bowling alley myself in Dublin I can tell you its not a cheap business to run. Our bowling alley had Brunswick A-2 machines which were not the worst to work on but getting parts was the expensive bit. But at the end of the day the Leisiureplex brand did more damage than good over the years to the people who had a dedication to the sport. They were only interested in one thing....money! And who could blame them its a business after all. I found many experienced bowlers moved to Alsaa or Palmerstown where there was more of a personal touch to the business.

Funtasia in Bettystown do very good deals off-peak. Anyone living near by should check it out.

1ofmany

Can anyone advise me what will be the price of going bowling in Dublin in the afternoon, well after 6 pm on weekdays (around 10 people for 1 hour) We're beginners so it doesn't have to be the best of places but the one that is reasonably priced. Thanks a mill!!!

God Of Radio

Good thread and I agree totally. Its expensive here in the States as well. You get some crappy shoes and a shi**y space to sit in. THEN half way through a good game they turn the lights off and do the glow crap with techno music. I HATE that!

DubTony

1ofmany wrote: »

Can anyone advise me what will be the price of going bowling in Dublin in the afternoon, well after 6 pm on weekdays (around 10 people for 1 hour) We're beginners so it doesn't have to be the best of places but the one that is reasonably priced. Thanks a mill!!!

WOW! This got dragged out from the archives. A year and 4 months. Is that a record? :-)

TBH, I haven't a clue what the rates are at the moment. I will say that 10 of you aren't going to have a lot of fun, or even finish a game in an hour unless you break it down into 2 groups of 5. If you do that you could have 2 teams playing a "match". Ask the management can they put you side by side and play "league style" (i.e. all players playing both lanes) Would make for better craic and a slightly quicker game .... I think Of course it'll cost twice as much. But 10 of you on one lane will be no good, in fact, I just realised (it's been a long time) they won't allow you all on one lane. Guess you're looking at €80+ for the hour.

Tony_Montana

Go to Wales £8.50 for unlimited bowling can't go wrong

the groutch

imo they should have annual memberships for the dedicated bowlers (eg. €500 p.a. and then €10 per hour)

Donkathon

Diamond bowl in wicklow town are ginng an hours bowling for €20 or a game for €5

the groutch

is that all times, or just off peak?

Donkathon

all the time as far i i know its been €20 for past 2 months ssince i've started going and they have a loyalty card aswell 6 x hour = 1 free hour

the groutch

will have to check it out, that's even cheaper than the league rate I get in leisureplex

population

Bowling is damn expensive these days, but it was always quite dear. Myself and my sister used to be league bowlers in Crumlin Superbowl in the early nineties, and even at league rates it was still pricey.

Cant remember the exact figures but Jesus me poor Dad was gutted I had jacked in football on Saturdays for this! And can you blame him ha ha!!!

r3nu4l

population wrote: »

Bowling is damn expensive these days, but it was always quite dear. Myself and my sister used to be league bowlers in Crumlin Superbowl in the early nineties, and even at league rates it was still pricey.

Cant remember the exact figures but Jesus me poor Dad was gutted I had jacked in football on Saturdays for this! And can you blame him ha ha!!!

When Crumlin closed were you oone of the crowd that started bowling at XLBowl? There were a load of people from Crumlin who joined our leagues back then

Donkathon wrote: »

all the time as far i i know its been €20 for past 2 months ssince i've started going and they have a loyalty card aswell 6 x hour = 1 free hour

That's a good price and a really good idea to have a loyalty card! Great thinking by management there!

population

I was briefly one of the folk who went to XLBowl. When Crumlin shut we were all actively encouraged to go there. Cant exactly remember why??? I always though Tallaght would have made more sense because of the busses, but the people in XLBowl were all sound to deal with. Also one or two of the old staff in Crumlin went to work there if I remember right.

Signed up for a league there and everything, but at that stage my interest in the game was starting to wane and Palmerston was a nuisance for me to get to so I knocked it on the head.

Sold my gear and bought a guitar and that was that! Must admit though I do miss it sometimes. Went bowling for the first time in at least 12 years on my 30th birthday and had a 165 with a house ball so I was pretty chuffed. My next game was a 90 though but in my rose tinted memory that bit never happened ha ha!!!

r3nu4l

Yeah I think Tony from XLBowl and some of the people from Crumlin knew each other well enough and those contacts probably helped. It was good for the Crumlin bowlers to keep together too though.

population

It was yeah.

There was a good sort of community spirit in the Crumlin bowl and I think alot of people did their best to transfer that over to XL, and fair play to them and to the XL people, but truthfully for me it just didnt feel the same. The Superbowl was a real loss.

DubTony

population wrote: »

Myself and my sister used to be league bowlers in Crumlin Superbowl in the early nineties, and even at league rates it was still pricey.

aaaaaaah ........... Crumlin in the early 90's. Those were the days. Back when I could pick up a ball without hurtin' me back. Release with a slide without hurtin' me knee. Put the ball on the lane without a thump. Roll that cobra - stand up - turn around - hand to my ear and and listen ... STRIKE !!!!
Holland said I was showing off. Higgins said I was showing off. Yore Me Ma thought I was great.

*sigh* makes me want to annoy a ball driller somewhere and do it all over again *sigh*

here.from.day.1

Theres a place in Drogheda we go to.. its NOT funtasia but its not far away from it, they charge €15 an hour. We usually go in 3s so €5 each, its not bad.

r3nu4l

here.from.day.1 wrote: »

Theres a place in Drogheda we go to.. its NOT funtasia but its not far away from it, they charge €15 an hour. We usually go in 3s so €5 each, its not bad.

That's an excellent price! Is that price for under 18's or between certain times on certain days?

DubTony wrote:

Roll that cobra...

Interesting, I had an AMF Cobra too!! I bought it second hand, had it re-drilled for my hand and used it as a spare ball, I was using the Ebonite Turbo (sanded) as my strike ball back then.

here.from.day.1

r3nu4l wrote: »

That's an excellent price! Is that price for under 18's or between certain times on certain days?

Its anytime, and we do enjoy a pint (im 22) with our game so thats a no to the under 18 part! Ill find out the name of the place later on if I can.

mac_attack

**HALF PRICE BOWLING 7 DAYS PER WEEK €15 PER LANE PER HOUR***

http://www.droghedaleisure.ie/bowling/

Irishmaster

Leisureplex are doing a special now! Its 5euro per game sun 6pm till thursday 6pm. The last time we went we only paid a 5er for some reason we didnt know. Now we do!

here.from.day.1

mac_attack wrote: »

**HALF PRICE BOWLING 7 DAYS PER WEEK €15 PER LANE PER HOUR***

http://www.droghedaleisure.ie/bowling/

Thats the one, thanks george. They say its a special but its been like that since it opened and its on peak too!

mac_attack

here.from.day.1 wrote: »

Thats the one, thanks george. They say its a special but its been like that since it opened and its on peak too!

Nah I think the price changed when Funtasia opened up last year. Duno what the old price was asumming 30euro though. But I do recall a rudy great big sign appearing outside advertising its cheap rate and me having a hmm moment.

kc66

Was in LeisurePlex Blanchardstown on Sunday morning. It was €44 for an hours bowling. Wasn't going to pay that.

here.from.day.1

kc66 wrote: »

Was in LeisurePlex Blanchardstown on Sunday morning. It was €44 for an hours bowling. Wasn't going to pay that.

Thats unreal. Swines!! :mad:

r3nu4l

kc66 wrote: »

Was in LeisurePlex Blanchardstown on Sunday morning. It was €44 for an hours bowling. Wasn't going to pay that.

Whoa!! That's expensive!
Interestingly most centres in the UK book lanes per game rather than per hour!

In Norwich you get unlimited bowling for £6 on weekdays before 6 PM

After 6 PM it's £9 for two games plus a choice of drink from the bar Mon-Fri!!

Where I bowl is £9.90 for two games and I get every 7th game free

len81

I know this thread is old skewl and if this is of any help to anyone! Sorry if it aint!

http://www.onoffer.ie/aspx/search.aspx?keyword=leisureplex

Irishmaster

Leisureplex league bowlers get vouchers for 20 euro an hour which is fine! Anything over 20 an hour is bad. Luckily im a league bowler there.

Irishmaster

Oh that 5er a game special is over at leisureplex. Oh well.

Gillington

Braybowl is €6 for 2 games which isn't bad.Not sure of the hourly prices

bbability

I brought the kids up to Drogheda Bowl las week. 2 kids were €2 each and I was €4.50 for 1 game. Or €15 for the hour. Hard to beat that price. Leisureplex was always known for being an expensive spot. League bowlers in my opinion should only be paying league prices at all times. The sport is expensive enough as it is..

nachoman

Anyone know if theres a proper league in Blanchardstown, hope the prices have gone down for the hour these days what with the recession and all and more people with lots of free time on them these days.

r3nu4l

nachoman wrote: »

Anyone know if theres a proper league in Blanchardstown, hope the prices have gone down for the hour these days what with the recession and all and more people with lots of free time on them these days.

There should be proper leagues in Blanch and yes, bowling in a league is usually cheaper than bowling outside a league. In the league you don't pay by the hour you pay a set price for the number of games.

In my league it's £11.50* for three games



*I'm in the UK, hence the £ sign