Sir Bono the gobs***e

DonJose

Great artisit, but as a person he must be one of the biggest gobs***e out there. He accepted his honorary knighthood today from a country that supressed Ireland for centuries, then waffles the following speech.

"What a great year for an Irishman to receive an award from Great Britain. The peace process has proceeded to a conclusion, debt cancellation - started in Great Britain - has put 20 million African children in school."

He didn't mention that its going to another great financial year for himself now that his company is moving abroad to avoid paying taxes in Ireland after taking advantage of years of tax breaks when he was makin 10's of millions each year.

Marksie

DonJose wrote:

Great artisit, but as a person he must be one of the biggest gobs***e out there. He accepted his honorary knighthood today from a country that supressed Ireland for centuries, then waffles the following speech.

"What a great year for an Irishman to receive an award from Great Britain. The peace process has proceeded to a conclusion, debt cancellation - started in Great Britain - has put 20 million African children in school."

He didn't mention that its going to another great financial year for himself now that his company is moving abroad to avoid paying taxes in Ireland after taking advantage of years of tax breaks when he was makin 10's of millions each year.

almost a big a gobsh*te as those still banging on about repression.

I don't suppose repression featured much when bertie from FF the "republican party" accepted "gifts" from all those in manchester

Femelade

money makes the world go round..He's trying to make as much as he can...so am i...

robinph

DonJose wrote:

Great artisit, but as a person he must be one of the biggest gobs***e out there. He accepted his honorary knighthood today from a country that supressed Ireland for centuries, then waffles the following speech.

There seems to be a few people about still that could do with being suppressed a bit to give the rest of us a break for a change.

JayRoc

marksuttonie wrote:

almost a big a gobsh*te as those still banging on about repression.

I don't suppose repression featured much when bertie from FF the "republican party" accepted "gifts" from all those in manchester

Heh heh....English much?

Marksie

JayRoc wrote:

Heh heh....English much?

LOL Yup

and tired of a bunch of sad losers blaming the past for all their own present failures while everyone else moves on and forward.

DonJose

marksuttonie wrote:

and tired of a bunch of sad losers blaming the past for all their own present failures while everyone else moves on and forward.

LOL We've come a long way since we sent you packing, but the history will always be there.

seamus

DonJose wrote:

LOL We've come a long way since we sent you packing, but the history will always be there.

And so will the idiots who keep confusing history with current events.

Marksie

DonJose wrote:

LOL We've come a long way since we sent you packing, but the history will always be there.

Well most have.

Me i am still here .

stovelid

DonJose wrote:

Great artisit, but as a person he must be one of the biggest gobs***e out there. He accepted his honorary knighthood today from a country that supressed Ireland for centuries, then waffles the following speech.

"What a great year for an Irishman to receive an award from Great Britain. The peace process has proceeded to a conclusion, debt cancellation - started in Great Britain - has put 20 million African children in school."

He didn't mention that its going to another great financial year for himself now that his company is moving abroad to avoid paying taxes in Ireland after taking advantage of years of tax breaks when he was makin 10's of millions each year.

I get a bit annoyed when people constantly bring up the hypocrisy of rich people involved in charity.

Bono is an annoying tax dodger but whatever he does for charity, I don't have a problem with it.

There are plenty of rich people who don't help the poor.

At the end of the day, if Bono is to believed, 20 million African kids have benefited even if it is a publicity stunt or conscience salve on his part.

Zebra3

DonJose wrote:

Great artisit, but as a person he must be one of the biggest gobs***e out there. He accepted his honorary knighthood today from a country that supressed Ireland for centuries, then waffles the following speech.

"What a great year for an Irishman to receive an award from Great Britain. The peace process has proceeded to a conclusion, debt cancellation - started in Great Britain - has put 20 million African children in school."

He didn't mention that its going to another great financial year for himself now that his company is moving abroad to avoid paying taxes in Ireland after taking advantage of years of tax breaks when he was makin 10's of millions each year.

Well, I'm sure the families of those Irish people who have recently been murdered with impunity by the British security forces and their agents are delighted with his decision to accept his honorary knighthood. :rolleyes:

Considering this man was once prepared to stand up for them by singing "Sunday, Bloody Sunday" or was that just good enough for him to raise his profile as a rebel rocker?

Sure who needs a political stance now when you are part of the tax avoiding establishment.

Talk about selling your soul....

JayRoc

marksuttonie wrote:

LOL Yup

and tired of a bunch of sad losers blaming the past for all their own present failures while everyone else moves on and forward.

It always cracks me up the way people talk about, say, eighty years ago, as if it was the mesozoic era.... 'Tis less than a lifetime ago, you know.

Now kindly start acting like the rest of your countrymen and get down on your knees looking for forgiveness from us for the famine. Thank you.

Marksie

Zebra3 wrote:

Talk about selling your soul....

Terry Wogan.

JayRoc

seamus wrote:

And so will the idiots who keep confusing history with current events.

That's gas.
Here was me thinking partition WAS a current event.

Mossy Monk

DonJose wrote:

Great artisit, but as a person he must be one of the biggest gobs***e out there. He accepted his honorary knighthood today from a country that supressed Ireland for centuries, then waffles the following speech.

"What a great year for an Irishman to receive an award from Great Britain. The peace process has proceeded to a conclusion, debt cancellation - started in Great Britain - has put 20 million African children in school."

He didn't mention that its going to another great financial year for himself now that his company is moving abroad to avoid paying taxes in Ireland after taking advantage of years of tax breaks when he was makin 10's of millions each year.

Do you often feel bitter about many different things?

DonJose

Mossy Monk wrote:

Do you often feel bitter about many different things?

No, only when I read the newspaper

seamus

Zebra3 wrote:

Well, I'm sure the families of those Irish people who have recently been murdered with impunity by the British security forces and their agents are delighted with his decision to accept his honorary knighthood. :rolleyes:

Who would these people be now?

Considering this man was once prepared to stand up for them by singing "Sunday, Bloody Sunday" or was that just good enough for him to raise his profile as a rebel rocker?

The song was written at least 24 years ago, detailing an event that was carried out by agents of said establishment, not on the orders of said establishment. It was also a very different time.

Britain and some of the bigger countries of Europe entered into a common economic agreement with Germany, just 13 years after they had attempted to annex most of the continent and ethnically cleanse vast swathes of their populations.

Why are some Irish people having trouble letting go of incidents that happened on a micro scale, and in most cases before they were even born?

seamus

JayRoc wrote:

That's gas.
Here was me thinking partition WAS a current event.

What has Bono accepting a knighthood got to do with partition?

Partition may have been caused by a previous occupation many years ago, but it has been propagated by the population of that partition. Newsflash for you: Northern Ireland is a different country. However much you'd like to feel that it's somehow rightfully "yours", you're wrong.

DonJose

seamus wrote:

Britain and some of the bigger countries of Europe entered into a common economic agreement with Germany, just 13 years after they had attempted to annex most of the continent and ethnically cleanse vast swathes of their populations.

Was Hitler still in power when this agreement was signed?

DonJose

seamus wrote:

What has Bono accepting a knighthood got to do with partition?

What has Bono accepting a knighthood got to do with Germany? Anyway back to Bono...

seamus

DonJose wrote:

Was Hitler still in power when this agreement was signed?

Ah good point. Damn that Cromwell and his oily hide! If only we could get rid of him...

jank

Great artisit, but as a person he must be one of the biggest gobs***e out there. He accepted his honorary knighthood today from a country that supressed Ireland for centuries, then waffles the following speech.

"What a great year for an Irishman to receive an award from Great Britain. The peace process has proceeded to a conclusion, debt cancellation - started in Great Britain - has put 20 million African children in school."

He didn't mention that its going to another great financial year for himself now that his company is moving abroad to avoid paying taxes in Ireland after taking advantage of years of tax breaks when he was makin 10's of millions each year.

Do you feel bitter that your life is a shadow of what you thought it would be by sitting in an internet cafe and trading insults with others ala cyber bully

Why dont you just go to the toilet and have your 6th w@nk of the day.
Save us the time and the bandwidth.....

kevmy

Bono deserves his knighthood. If I got offered one I'd take it. Look who else got honours recently, Stevie Gerrard, Elton John and another shower of civil servants. Bono has done as much as any of these and just because he doesn't get any praise here doesn't mean he shouldn't accept it elsewhere.
I mean I agree he can be an annoying twerp at times but hey so can I. He's tried to do something for charity on a big scale and he's a genuine, 100% global rock star. How many of us can say that?
Leave him alone if you don't like to here him speak use the mute button.

The Hill Billy

Done. To. Death.
More. Useless. Trolling.


BTW - DonJose, JayRoc, Zebra3: Humour me - What football teams do you lads support?

DonJose

kevmy wrote:

I mean I agree he can be an annoying twerp at times but hey so can I. He's tried to do something for charity on a big scale and he's a genuine, 100% global rock star. How many of us can say that?
Leave him alone if you don't like to here him speak use the mute button.

I said from the start he's a great artist, it's just when he starts opening his mouth in public that the bullsh!t starts to fly.

biko

seamus wrote:

Newsflash for you: Northern Ireland is a different country. However much you'd like to feel that it's somehow rightfully "yours", you're wrong.

Well, Sinn Fein and the Irish constitution would disagree with you there

edit: sorry the constitution was amended

DonJose

Hill Billy wrote:

BTW - DonJose, JayRoc, Zebra3: Humour me - What football teams do you lads support?

I'm a Rangers fan

DonJose

jank wrote:

Do you feel bitter that your life is a shadow of what you thought it would be by sitting in an internet cafe and trading insults with others ala cyber bully

Why dont you just go to the toilet and have your 6th w@nk of the day.
Save us the time and the bandwidth.....

Sorry to burst your bubble, I'm self employed and work from home.

jank

Sorry to burst your bubble, I'm self employed and work from home.

Yea a self employed w@anker!

You must be very successfull if you can spend all your time on boards.ie trolling:D

pleba

DonJose wrote:

I said from the start he's a great artist, it's just when he starts opening his mouth in public that the bullsh!t starts to fly.

bullsh!t in who's eyes? i've seen more bullsh!t in this one thread that i've ever heard coming out of Bono's mouth!

give the guy a break. if he had snubbed the 'honorary knighthood' then he would have had the other half of the country attacking him for doing that.

the guy can't win no matter what he does.
we are a nation of begrudgers. let him get on with raising the profile of an incredibly worthy cause.

DonJose

jank wrote:

Yea a self employed w@anker!

You must be very successfull if you can spend all your time on boards.ie trolling:D

bonkey

DonJose wrote:

I'm a Rangers fan

WHich one of the provinces do they play in?

Oh..wait...you understood "football" to mean that foreign, english sport we know as soccer.

I see.

That language you're speaking too...must say its the most unusual dfialect of Gaeilge I've come across yet.

Get of your cross. Someone else needs the wood.

DonJose

bonkey wrote:

WHich one of the provinces do they play in?

Oh..wait...you understood "football" to mean that foreign, english sport we know as soccer.

I see.

That language you're speaking too...must say its the most unusual dfialect of Gaeilge I've come across yet.

Get of your cross. Someone else needs the wood.

LOL, somebody missed the smiley.

DaBreno

To be fair, the U2 lead singer has talked a lot of ****e in his time, goes with being a rock star I suppose. On the other hand, he has been quite active in using his influence for the benefit of the Northern political process and has done a lot for Africa. Does it really matter what the motivations are? It only matters to us if its an attempt to stroke the ego. To the people of Tanzania, whose Western dept repayments easily outstrip their GDP, they dont give a **** why, only he does. Theres a lot more who choose to do nothing at all.

Btw, If I was offered a Knighthood, Id take it. Id love to walk around the streets of a former World power and have its citizens refer to me as "Sir Breno". What good is power if you cant abuse it? Id get into all the best nightclubs and blag a few free drinks. And call a meeting with Blair to tell him what a disgrace he his to the notion of a Labour party. Oh yes, many reasons to be a Knight.

ps. Would I get a few bob out of it?

cornbb

DonJose wrote:

Great artisit, but as a person he must be one of the biggest gobs***e out there. He accepted his honorary knighthood today from a country that supressed Ireland for centuries, then waffles the following speech.

"What a great year for an Irishman to receive an award from Great Britain. The peace process has proceeded to a conclusion, debt cancellation - started in Great Britain - has put 20 million African children in school."

He didn't mention that its going to another great financial year for himself now that his company is moving abroad to avoid paying taxes in Ireland after taking advantage of years of tax breaks when he was makin 10's of millions each year.

I agree with everything you say except for the great artist bit.

skywalker

DonJose wrote:

Great artisit, but as a person he must be one of the biggest gobs***e out there. He accepted his honorary knighthood today from a country that supressed Ireland for centuries, then waffles the following speech.

"What a great year for an Irishman to receive an award from Great Britain. The peace process has proceeded to a conclusion, debt cancellation - started in Great Britain - has put 20 million African children in school."

He didn't mention that its going to another great financial year for himself now that his company is moving abroad to avoid paying taxes in Ireland after taking advantage of years of tax breaks when he was makin 10's of millions each year.

So saving himself a tonne of money in tax makes him a gob****e?

JayRoc

bonkey wrote:

WHich one of the provinces do they play in?

Oh..wait...you understood "football" to mean that foreign, english sport we know as soccer.

I'm not only annoyed that you managed to make a "foreign games" crack before I had time to post the quite frankly hilarious one I had all ready,
but I'm also annoyed you managed to come up with this rubbish as well as stealing my thunder;

bonkey wrote:

That language you're speaking too...must say its the most unusual dfialect of Gaeilge I've come across yet.

I, you and the rest of us who are currently writing and talking in english do so because it is the main language of this country.
Would you care to hazard a guess as to why it is the main language of this country, or am I being too vague for you?
(Hint; It involves my rabidly roaring "800 years of oppression" and foam dripping from my mouth all over my Celtic jersey)

Sinfonia

I don't really get the anti-Bonoism,
He can be arrogant, and maybe a bit diva-esque at times, but that's nothing unusual for incredibly famous rock stars.

Maybe he's as anti-English as some of the people here are, and he just wanted to lord it over them as DaBreno described.

And he moved away to supposedly (is this fact, I'm not sure) avoid paying taxes. Why are people so upset about this? (Honest question)

Kinetic^

The oppression is over people. We don't need to forget about it but there's on need to bring it up constantly :rolleyes:

Anyway, if they do ever come a knockin' again........I've got jack johnson and tom o'leary waiting for 'em!!!!

FlutterinBantam

SumGuy wrote:

I don't really get the anti-Bonoism,
He can be arrogant, and maybe a bit diva-esque at times, but that's nothing unusual for incredibly famous rock stars.

Maybe he's as anti-English as some of the people here are, and he just wanted to lord it over them as DaBreno described.

And he moved away to supposedly (is this fact, I'm not sure) avoid paying taxes. Why are people so upset about this? (Honest question)

My beef with the man is that he seems to expect others to do what he is not prepared to do..vote.. pay taxes..

Remember the presidential election??

Staggered out of the Shelbourne ,didn't bother his arse voting after
advising everybody else to make sure to vote.

Fess up man

Maccattack

Bono is a gobs****e.

Not for any other reason than for some of the stuff he says. He is a self obsessed ****€r.

But he has helped raise awareness and money for less fortunate people than himself. which is commendable. If I were in his position I would do it to. I'm glad he does it:

But I believe a lot of it is
a) to raise his own profile
b) to extend the life of a very average band
c) based on his insecurity and a need to be noticed and loved which stems from having no Ma and being as tall as an Umpa Loompa.

gyppo

DaBreno wrote:

To be fair, the U2 lead singer has talked a lot of ****e in his time, goes with being a rock star I suppose. On the other hand, he has been quite active in using his influence for the benefit of the Northern political process and has done a lot for Africa. Does it really matter what the motivations are? It only matters to us if its an attempt to stroke the ego. To the people of Tanzania, whose Western dept repayments easily outstrip their GDP, they dont give a **** why, only he does. Theres a lot more who choose to do nothing at all.

Often thought the same thing. Does Bono deep down really give a toss about humanitarian issues, and only be seen to care so as to further inflate his huge ego?
or
Does he use his position as a major celebrity to broker acts of christian kindness because he's a sound caring guy?

I dont have an axe to grind either way - just curious as to what the rest of ye think..

luckat

stovelid wrote:

I get a bit annoyed when people constantly bring up the hypocrisy of rich people involved in charity.

Bono is an annoying tax dodger but whatever he does for charity, I don't have a problem with it.

There are plenty of rich people who don't help the poor.

At the end of the day, if Bono is to believed, 20 million African kids have benefited even if it is a publicity stunt or conscience salve on his part.

Bono and his... colleagues move their wealth offshore to avoid paying for his country's roads, schools, hospitals, libraries, sports fields, water, etc - and then get lots of publicity - to make themselves lots more money - through charity efforts.

I give money to charity too, but I don't tell the newspapers about it.

As for taking a British title - I'd cross the road to avoid any 'Irish' person who does this. Disgusting.

edanto

Zebra3 wrote:

Considering this man was once prepared to stand up for them by singing "Sunday, Bloody Sunday" or was that just good enough for him to raise his profile as a rebel rocker?

But I won't heed the battle call,

it puts my back up

My back up against the wall.

I think that song's more of a call for peace than hardcore anti-Britishness.

Are you guys seriously saying that Bono shouldn't accept an award for the work that he's done, and that he should keep his mouth shut about the things that he cares about? Sure then he'd be a big idiot! Not taking the opportunity to speak into the mic about peace and equality when he has the chance?

You're the ones with the choice, you don't have to read what he's reported to say, listen to him on the telly or talk about him. It's you begrudger types that are part of the problem, not people like him that are doing something about it.

Sinfonia

luckat wrote:

As for taking a British title - I'd cross the road to avoid any 'Irish' person who does this. Disgusting.

Isn't that a bit of an overreaction?
Would you cross the road to avoid British people??

luckat

pleba wrote:

give the guy a break. if he had snubbed the 'honorary knighthood' then he would have had the other half of the country attacking him for doing that.

Nope. Seamus Heaney had the balls to say no.

robinph

luckat wrote:

As for taking a British title - I'd cross the road to avoid any 'Irish' person who does this. Disgusting.

That's OK then as he hasn't been given a title.

latenia

Fact: Bono and U2 have avoided 10s, probably hundreds, of millions in Irish income tax.

Fact: A certain percentage of the country's income goes to developing countries each year.

If Bono paid tax like everyone else does it would save extra lives/educate/cure disease/feed people.

I think we should start a campaign to call Bono a w@nker every time he's spotted around Dublin. With the amount of boardsies about he should probably hear it at least once a day.

Sinfonia

latenia wrote:

I think we should start a campaign to call Bono a w@nker every time he's spotted around Dublin. With the amount of boardsies about he should probably hear it at least once a day.

I'm pretty sure people already do that. It doesn't seem to be solving the 'problem'. Turns out verbal abuse doesn't make people want to come back to this country and start paying taxes.

nesf

luckat wrote:

Nope. Seamus Heaney had the balls to say no.

Sure, but really it's up to the individual whether they would have a problem accepting the award or not. For instance, I'd draw a large division between accepting a knighthood which isn't hereditary and has no lands attached to it and a title which is hereditary and has lands attached to it. One is an honour, and the other is quite a different thing altogether in my view.

Maccattack

nesf wrote:

Sure, but really it's up to the individual whether they would have a problem accepting the award or not.

True. Why alienate a large number of people who buy your records and concert tickets?