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best bosses ever

  • 22-03-2007 12:34am
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    As we all know final fantasy has provided some truly great bosses during its series. This thread is about all those great bosses.

    In my opinion the best boss ever has to be penance final fantasy x (international version the USA couldnt handle the awesomeness of this boss) if youve been able to even get to him, hes truly immense and almost undefeatable (something like 12 million hp). It took me about a year-year and a half of off and on playing to max out my characters and even then this boss was reaaaaaallllly hard. i was so proud of myself!

    anyway thats my opinion on the best boss ever...whats yours?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭grimloch


    Penance was a pretty crappy boss tbh. It was just a ludicrously hard to complete goal that required obscene amount of level grinding to beat.

    I can't really think of any standout bosses at the moment, very few of them required genuine skill and tactics to beat. By and large, a tough, hard-to-beat obstacle could be easily circumvented by 20 minutes of levelling. Although there was one boss in X that changed its elemental strengths and weaknesses every few turns so that was a fairly interesting fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,945 ✭✭✭Anima


    I'd say Emerald or Ruby weapon from FFVII were the best FF bosses.

    Emerald especially did a move that took 9999 HP. So it forced you to come up with a way of surviving that (phoneix summon joined with life spell or something). I thought that was great at the time because you were the whole time gearing up for this fight that took like 20-30 mins to finish anyway. Seemed really epic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    I always liked the Midgar Zolom. Seemed so epic and terrifying the first time around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭AnCapaillMor


    Anima wrote:
    I'd say Emerald or Ruby weapon from FFVII were the best FF bosses.

    Emerald especially did a move that took 9999 HP. So it forced you to come up with a way of surviving that (phoneix summon joined with life spell or something). I thought that was great at the time because you were the whole time gearing up for this fight that took like 20-30 mins to finish anyway. Seemed really epic.

    Final Attack materia paired with phoenix and you needed phoenix at 3-4 stars. Dark yojimbo from X was tough, can't remember the name of the move but if he pulled it off that was it, because it broke through the rise\angel status. Dark Magus sisters as well, you're only hope was to split them up and fight them 1 by 1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭CodeMonkey


    Dark Magus sisters as well, you're only hope was to split them up and fight them 1 by 1.
    Yijimbo had an attack that can one hit kill things. When I stumbled upon the dark magus sister, I grand summoned yojimbo, paid him most of my gil which wasn't much cause I read that it increases the chance of doing that move and he did. The dark magus sister were instantly killed. I think yojimbo can probably kill all the dark aeons and Penance if you don't mind rebooting when he fails. You didn't really had to spend hours leveling. I didn't bother hunting dark aeons though, wasn't particularly motivated after finishing the game.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,387 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Found the Dark Aeons got in the way of subquests and ruined the PAL version for me. Should have just Yojimbo-ed them but it felt like cheating.

    All my favourite bosses were in Final Fantasy X. I didn't spend any time levelling up and because of the brilliant battle system a lot of the last few bosses were really hard fought tactical affairs. The best were:
    Seymour on Mt. Gagazette (sp?)
    Having to change from shell to protect after his attacks changed just to stay alive mixed things up nicely.

    The dragony boss before yunalesca
    Brilliant the way you had to constantly change position and use a tank to distract him.

    Yunalesca
    Horrible boss. Really hated her zombie status effect. Felt great beating her :)

    Also the boss at the top of Kefkas tower in FFVI had a nasty surprise that really broke my heart ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭grimloch


    Retr0gamer wrote:
    Seymour on Mt. Gagazette (sp?)
    Having to change from shell to protect after his attacks changed just to stay alive mixed things up nicely.

    Incorrect, that boss was a pain in the arse because of that stupid doomsday-insta-kill-everything on the screen attack that he had. An absolute emot-jerkbag.gif of an enemy.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,387 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    grimloch wrote:
    Incorrect, that boss was a pain in the arse because of that stupid doomsday-insta-kill-everything on the screen attack that he had. An absolute emot-jerkbag.gif of an enemy.

    If you used shell (or was it protect) Doomsday was survivable and you could easily recover. It used to wipe my entire party out as well until I used these spells.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭grimloch


    Really? I recall using both of those spells and still getting obliterated. It was due to luck and luck alone that I eventually beat him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,836 ✭✭✭Vokes


    Yeh, it was Protect that did the business against his attack on the whole party. Also one he tried his Lance / Zombie thing on an indivdual, fling in a Holy Water (or have Zombie Ward attached) and he wastes a move on performing a Full-Life.

    Definitely one of the more interesting bosses in X.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,388 ✭✭✭Cina


    Well, this thread apart from retr0s comment seems to be more about the toughest boss than the best boss! And there have been many of them, Ruby in VII, Omega in VIII, Osmo in IX, Dark Aeons in X etc but ..

    Surely Safer Sephiroth in VII is the most awesome boss EVER? Sure if you level up enough and get KOTR you can destroy him but I didn't do that the first time I played the game and my god he was challenging. The backround music for the fight was epic, and gave me shivers, he looked awesome, and his supernova attack was just crazy, I don't think I've ever seen anything as long and as over the top brilliant in any FF game since. Loved it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭AnCapaillMor


    Yeah music was well cool, i remember getting goosebumps when they played the music in Advent children.

    After fighting gillgamesh in XII, i've got to see he's one of the best, funny intro and ending to the fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭Mark Hamill


    Anima wrote:
    I'd say Emerald or Ruby weapon from FFVII were the best FF bosses.

    Emerald especially did a move that took 9999 HP. So it forced you to come up with a way of surviving that (phoneix summon joined with life spell or something). I thought that was great at the time because you were the whole time gearing up for this fight that took like 20-30 mins to finish anyway. Seemed really epic.

    I assume you are talkin about the attack where the top half of the weapon flies over you and shoots energy or lasers or something at you? This attack does damage equal to the number of materia orbs attached to you times 1000, so if any character has 10 orbs or more junctioned to weapons and armo, they are dead because there is no way to reduce/avoid damage. You have to decide what materia is really important before you go into this battle.

    I think that the ruby weapon is the best boss


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,912 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Fighting Cerebus in Galbadia Garden in 8 was pretty cool, also enjoyed having to Fight diablo:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,388 ✭✭✭Cina


    I assume you are talkin about the attack where the top half of the weapon flies over you and shoots energy or lasers or something at you? This attack does damage equal to the number of materia orbs attached to you times 1000, so if any character has 10 orbs or more junctioned to weapons and armo, they are dead because there is no way to reduce/avoid damage. You have to decide what materia is really important before you go into this battle.

    I think that the ruby weapon is the best boss

    Or just final attack and phoenix ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭AnCapaillMor


    Never new that with emerald and materia, it woud've saved on alot of time not having to level up phoenix and final attack.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 224 ✭✭dan_y


    I assume you are talkin about the attack where the top half of the weapon flies over you and shoots energy or lasers or something at you? This attack does damage equal to the number of materia orbs attached to you times 1000, so if any character has 10 orbs or more junctioned to weapons and armo, they are dead because there is no way to reduce/avoid damage. You have to decide what materia is really important before you go into this battle.

    yeah, the attack is called aire tam. spell it backwards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭entropi


    Well i suppose i'll add my 2c then... i thought Penance ranks amongst the most frustrating bosses of all time, along with Gilgamesh in FF12 <<
    took me over 30 mins to kill him 2nd time round
    . Also, i just recently fought Fafnir
    took me about 1hr 20 mins to kill this bastard, compared to other rank 7 marks he was by far the toughest

    For best boss though, probably Safer Sephiroth, i thought the Jecht battle was pretty cool also in X , Dark Yojimbo, Griever and Kefka deserve a mention because i loved, and hated those battles also :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭Robbiethe3rd


    My favourite was the giant goomba, it took me about a hundred meat junkies to beat him the first time, then I figured out you could just use orbs and stars. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,945 ✭✭✭Anima


    yeah, the attack is called aire tam. spell it backwards

    I feel like such a clown now :mad:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 534 ✭✭✭sd123


    ruby and emerald in 7, giant cactuar was a good laugh in 8 when you'd spend ages at him and then hed run away. also odin and tonberry king dude GF in 8 were slightly challenging. never played 9. but the best were in 10. nobody mentioned nemises, neslug, and jumbo dark flan guy (cant remember real name) all in the fighting arena were pretty challenging. Dark anema dark behemoth and dark magus sisters were a real challenge if not using Zanmato. also the tetra elemental and giant eater which had to be repeatedly killed to get fortune sqheres and luck. At the end of all the dark aeons Penance wasnt too bad. just keep at least one arm dead and he was a pretty easy. kind of an anti climax in my opinion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭Mark Hamill


    Just beat Gilgamesh in 12 (elite rare mark). Brilliant fight because after every 20% of his health is lost he takes out a new sword and you can recognise them from other final fantasy's (eg buster sword form VII, Gunblade from VIII, caladbolg from X etc)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭bluto63


    Dyne from FF7 for personal sentimental reasons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭nzamcdza


    Ruby Weapon for me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭Infini


    My favourite was the giant goomba, it took me about a hundred meat junkies to beat him the first time, then I figured out you could just use orbs and stars. :o
    LoL Penance is a wussy against Jojimbo I 1 shotted him with his main attack.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭Captain Smiggy


    I freakin hated penance! i never saw the point in fighting all the dark aeons, it was ridiculously hard. Dark yojimbo especially(why the hell wouldn't he just DIE?!).I'll always remember ruby, cos i first did it when i was like 11 and i actually cried when i beat the ugly red mofo...I always found sephiroth a cinch after jenova, that mother(pun definitely intended) was hard! loved fightin osma in IX, mostly cos i'd gotten all of the help style creatures, so it was easier...i always liked fighting seymour too....dunno why.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭ec18


    favourite boss prob be ultimate weapon in VII


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭Evangelion


    one that always got me was the Wall Demon in the Temple of the Ancients in VII. He was damn hard at that stage of the game (unless you were using Tifa who could pretty much kill him in one Limit)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,845 ✭✭✭2Scoops


    I'd have to go with Ruby Weapon in FF7. It was before the time of insane leveling up and 2 hour battles, which are just a bit over the top IMO.

    Ruby looked virtually indestructible at first, but with clever preparation and strategy you could take him down. A battle that makes you think hard and look for weaknesses is the most satisfying to win, I think. I remember when I beat him - it was the very last time I played FF7.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭Ishmael


    Hehe, i would probably go ruby weapon if i'd bothered to beat him the hard way.

    Was lucky enough to have cath sith kill him in one go with his slots limit though :D

    Favourite Boss was The Big robot thing in seven, not when you originally meet him but when you had to fight him at the end of the battle arena. I found it fun because you usually missing some important things when going into the fight and weren't always guaranteed to beat it.

    Those little Yan things(i think) in 8/9 (can't remember which) were also little tough feckers, they only appeared on one island on the map(little yellow guys with horns on their heads). Mostly cause each one had 2 goes for everyone one turn you had and they had some really powerful and annoying attacks.
    Very Satisfying when you beat a group of three of them tho.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,388 ✭✭✭Cina


    After fighting gillgamesh in XII, i've got to see he's one of the best, funny intro and ending to the fight.

    Yeah, gets my vote, great boss.

    Beaten all FFXII bosses now, I'd still say Safer Sephiroth is the best but XII has some seriously epic battles, eseccially the optional summons like Zodiark and Ultima. In terms of sheer difficulty Yiazmat was insane, 50 million health and almost 3 hours, got him in the end though, possibly the hardest FF boss I've ever fought (though I've never spent the 100 hours playing FFX you need to beat Penance .. might do if I ever get a chance though!), then Omega was a bit of a letdown, took about 10 minutes, oh well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,943 ✭✭✭Burning Eclipse


    I win

    Favourite boss is a tough one, I can't commit, but this guy is always first that comes to mind. 2 mins 30 seconds in....

    Also, listen to the music, it is perfection!!! Such an amazing moment!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Talk of FFX is making me wanna play it again.

    Pity i have a ps3 40gb now and can't play ps2 games on it. Never got to play FFXII either :(

    EDIT:

    Wahey! have a ps2 now. preowned one from GAME was missing plug so they gave me a brand new one. Got FFX, FFXII and SHADOW OF THE COLOSSUS still in original box with manual and postcards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 DaithiDuil


    My favorite has to be Ultros what a tool!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭Sudsy86


    Ruby had to be mine as well...Took me ages to beat him without using tricks and by tricks i don't mean cheating...Have ye heard of the 7777 trick...It's were you get all you characters to 7777health and when they attack the hit for that ammount 77 times each...Once i figured how to do this i went back and used it on him for the fun of it...Savage to look at...haha...I aint sharing how to do the trick either...haha


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 162 ✭✭solace


    I remember when the 7777 trick activated for the first time, didn't have a clue what was going on!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 Klept0


    Demon Gate looked pretty awesome in FF7 for it's time. Emerald was probably my fav, purely because when I sunk into the water for the first time I moved right into him without knowing. :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    Sudsy86 wrote: »
    Ruby had to be mine as well...Took me ages to beat him without using tricks and by tricks i don't mean cheating...Have ye heard of the 7777 trick...It's were you get all you characters to 7777health and when they attack the hit for that ammount 77 times each...Once i figured how to do this i went back and used it on him for the fun of it...Savage to look at...haha...I aint sharing how to do the trick either...haha


    Ruby is the most over rated....ever..... i had a stratagey that destroys him, It was with the master materia i think the name was??? and the w summon on one character, and mime on the other two, He would freeze to haedes effect and then i'd summoner kotr and have the other two use mime on him. It made this he easiest boss in the whole game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    Ultros was excellent, the thing was a buffoon yet he always beat me the first time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭Mark Hamill


    Ruby is the most over rated....ever..... i had a stratagey that destroys him, It was with the master materia i think the name was??? and the w summon on one character, and mime on the other two, He would freeze to haedes effect and then i'd summoner kotr and have the other two use mime on him. It made this he easiest boss in the whole game

    How does that strategy make Ruby the easiest boss in the game? Couldn't you use that strategy on most of the bosses (of the third disc anyway)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    it makes him the easiest because he only hit me once......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭Lee Snowflake


    Sephiroth is the boss to end all bosses. What a cool mutha****a.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Captain Ginger


    Probably Kefka, I really hated him and he just wouldn't die. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,081 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    Kuja and Trance Kuja

    Mainly for the music.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 Kildare Dude"91


    i thought seymours like final form was the coolest boss purely for the music and the last boss from ff9 too for the moosic :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 580 ✭✭✭karlr42


    i thought seymours like final form was the coolest boss purely for the music and the last boss from ff9 too for the moosic :D

    Final Jenova fight for similar musical reasons!:) But, of course, the best boss has to be Ultros! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 Kildare Dude"91


    the guy is a total legend like lol:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 85 ✭✭matthew26


    karlr42 wrote: »
    Final Jenova fight for similar musical reasons!:) But, of course, the best boss has to be Ultros! :D

    Gotta agree with the Jenova fight music. I'm actually using it as the alarm on my cellphone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,726 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    The guy in the safe in the Shinra Mansion was tough, worth it to get Odin early on though. Especially tough if you hadnt overlevelled.

    I have more marks to kill in ff12, I think Giglamesh was the last one I killed. I like very much that they gave him actual voice acting (along with Balthier's enemy-can't remmeber his name).

    Penance took an age.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 917 ✭✭✭carbonkid


    Nevermind Odin, you needed it to get hold of Vincent.
    karlr42 wrote: »
    Final Jenova fight for similar musical reasons!:) But, of course, the best boss has to be Ultros! :D

    Maybe not the best but Ultros was definitely the funniest boss.


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