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Triton T90si stopped working. Repair or replace?

  • 12-03-2007 9:20am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭


    Our Triton T90si shower is 9 years old. It gets used twice a day. I've had it repaired once in the past. A switch needed replacing.

    The technician that fixed it the last time claimed that their life span is about 8 to 10 years.

    I'm wondering now if I should get it replaced or repaired. The callout charge was around 65 Euro a couple of years ago. The cost of parts are on top of that.

    Any advice?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭eoghan.geraghty


    It would cost 450 euro for a new one supplied and fitted.
    Can't say how much a repair job would be as no idea whats broken.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭FunkyDa


    It's probably the brushes in the motor, that are worn out. I get about 4 years out of a set, at my rate of use. Earthridge, in Maynooth, are the agents. They sell the brushes for about 30 euro.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭Dopey


    The shower was causing the trip switch to trip. When I tried to pop back the trip switch it went again. I figured that water was coming in contact with the electrics.

    The repair guy from Triton came to the house and said that they no longer support them. It's a Triton T90I. They stopped making the model in 99 and stopped supporting them last year.

    It looks like I'll have to replace it.

    Thanks for the posts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭Dopey


    I noticed the cord switch for the electric shower seemed jammed. When I pulled it I couldn't switch it on and off. The red light was staying on but I couldn't switch it off.

    I opened it up and the live wire plastic cover is burned and some of the wire is exposed. It must have burned at a very high temperature as it burned through the earth wire. It's in two pieces.

    Any idea what might have caused this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭dingding


    Arcing across the contacts. This is likely to be the problem with tripping, might be worth replacing this switch. This fault would have been caused by using the switch under load. Mabye the swithc was not up to the load of the shower.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,035 ✭✭✭mad m


    I replaced my T90i with the T90si and have the old one out in shed if you need parts...The only thing which was wrong with it was it wouldnt heat the water any more. It got tepid if you were lucky on a hot day...

    So your welcome to it if your in Dublin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 232 ✭✭nikolaitr


    I had the exact same problem. Did your shower also alternate between hot and cold sometimes for a couple of seconds?


    I just bought a new one and replaced it myself....it really only requires the connection of a few wires and a pipe...buy a new shower and try it yourself....you may be surprised, and it will save you money. The reason our shower stopped working is from overuse....I like to use the shower as a relaxation area


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭Dopey


    Thanks for the replies folks. I'm not certain that the shower needs replacing yet. The cables in the cord switch (not sure what the proper name for this is) are burned.

    dingding, the switch has been working for seven or eight years. We never switched it off but it did work. Could it be the case that it has worn over time causing arcing? I was going to replace the switch first and see if it works. If it trips straight away then the problem is with the shower and I'll probably just replace it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭Dopey


    By the way, it was working perfectly up to the point of failure. It was heating the water fine. No hot and cold behaviour nikolaitr. I believe this can happen with limescale builds up in the shower.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,425 ✭✭✭Avns1s


    Dopey, those switches can burn out over time. The connections at the back particularly if they are the "1 screw" type often dont connect well enough with the cable for the load being carried. This causes some overheating which loosen the screw even more and in turn causes even more overheating to the point that the cables will be burnt.

    It is possible that the arcing is across the cables in the switch. In any case, even if you're replacing the shower, you're going to need a new switch so it makes total sense to replace this first before doing anything with the shower.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    If its as old as you say it is, you might be better off replacing.

    Would they really cost 450?

    I recently replaced a T80i with a T80xr for 180. Took me an hour to replace.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,035 ✭✭✭mad m


    I got mine(T90si) from a mate at cost for €200,remember its better to go with same make because the pipes will be on the right side making it easier to replace.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭Dopey


    I replaced the cord switch and the shower is working again. :D

    Hopefully I'll get another year out of it before it breaks down. Thanks for the posts!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,421 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    We got rid of ours years ago after having it repaired 4 or 5 times over about 6or so years. Apparently it had a vital switch made of plastic which just snapped off, or so the repair man told us. Don't know if that was/is your problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,425 ✭✭✭Avns1s


    Dopey wrote:
    I replaced the cord switch and the shower is working again. :D

    Hopefully I'll get another year out of it before it breaks down. Thanks for the posts!

    Well Done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭Snaggerman


    Lex,
    Just to let you know, The Triton T80i is a regular electric shower, connected to mains water feed. These are usually about e180 - e200 cos they don't have a built in pump. The T90 is tank fed and has a pump to build up the pressure, they would usually retail about e280. Having said that, e450 would seem steep for supply and fit, its less than an hours work for a half competent DIYr! Hope this helps:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 mattie


    Dopey wrote:
    I replaced the cord switch and the shower is working again. :D

    Hopefully I'll get another year out of it before it breaks down. Thanks for the posts!
    Where is the most competitive prices, in Dublin, for Triton T90si shower?

    M.
    lennonaspect@iol.ie


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,443 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr Magnolia


    Dopey wrote:
    I replaced the cord switch and the shower is working again. :D

    Hopefully I'll get another year out of it before it breaks down. Thanks for the posts!


    Well done. Make sure your connections are good 'n tight to avoid this reoccurring. Don't like putting the scare on you but, if the cable insulation was burnt then the cable itself maybe damaged and may need replacing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 Dolphin Sligo


    We live in a hard water area. Finally, the Triton T90si gave up the ghost. The water tank (heating unit) started to leak and the water sprays onto the electrics causing it to trip the breaker. The only solution is to replace the whole unit. I guess we didn’t do too bad, getting 8 years out of the unit. However, we have a second Triton in the guest bedroom, which does not get anything like the same use as the unit upstairs. But it too has the same problem and gave up a week after the first. Therefore, that means having to replace two units………not very nice.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,443 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr Magnolia


    Disaster Dolphin. Still, 8 years isn't bad..

    Have you considered one of those softners?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 459 ✭✭northdublin


    we sell triton showers where i work and we've one t 90 left. they have a newer model now that fits inplace of the old one but is slightly slimmer and comes in a chrome finish aswell as the usual white. should be able to get a direct replacement easy enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭brianbruff


    Anyone got a service manual for one of these?

    I've got 2, one works one doesn't, I've traced the power in the broken one and it doesn't seem to travel through the on switch.. so I'm thinking this is my problem.

    I've got to check it with my working one, but the service manual would be handy none the less.

    tnx


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 declanmul


    Was looking through the posts and have had the same problem as some of the previous posts, being that the temperature would flick from cold to scalding and then was fine. Current problem is that it never gets hot enough and it is constantly luke warm with pressure having decreased a little. Do you think I need to replace it and if so with what? Thanks... Declan


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭FrinkDink


    Yeah, our triton t90si has been performing at a crap level for a few years now... its a trickle in terms of pressure, just about doable right now, not in the colder months. how would i find out what our kilowatt value is?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 342 ✭✭masterwriter


    Our shower is a tritron T90si. It is leaking from the shower head when it is turned off, been leaking all night. How do I fix it? Does it need replacing or is there a part I can replace? Is it something like http://www.fixed4free.com/answers.php?id=74542 ? Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,664 ✭✭✭rogue-entity


    dingding wrote: »
    Arcing across the contacts. This is likely to be the problem with tripping, might be worth replacing this switch. This fault would have been caused by using the switch under load. Mabye the swithc was not up to the load of the shower.
    This seems to be a fairly common problem.. my mother's shower trips out if you stay too long in the shower, but a standard cooker switch is used on that one. I've been meaning to take a look at it, and if necessary, tighten any loose wires and replace the switch itself.

    As for the Triton T90.. my one is still going great, and its over 11 years old now. No hassle with it at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27 Starryeyd


    use to sell Triton T90i's in an electricl shop i worked in, if it's still going after about 8 years your doing well! they don't make 'em like they use to as my nan says!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 murphno


    Hi All

    I have a Triton T90si in my en suite and has been working fine for the last 14 months then out of the blue it has started making a large humming noise and the water has gone RED HOT!!:mad: Can any tell what maybe causing this!!!
    :(

    Regards

    Noel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,425 ✭✭✭Avns1s


    Sounds like its not getting sufficient water. Did the tank run dry lately? if so it's probably airlocked.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Jo King


    How are the brushes replaced in a Triton T90 SI


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 Furze


    Replacing my brothers Triton 90.
    What is the correct connection to the inlet ? Old one has a short piece of copper pushed directly into inlet and then onto a elbow compression joint. This elbow compression joint is slightly too small to slide over the inlet although the nut says 15mm.
    Is a plastic elbow ok to use ? and please what is the correct size ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 143 ✭✭harly1516


    Lads could I just say be very careful these showers are not really a diy job no matter how simple they look if something goes wrong its your life your messing with, water conducts electricity so it could be like wraping a roll of wire round you and also the warranty states it must be fitted and serviced by a qualified electrician and plumber " be Careful" :eek::eek::eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 302 ✭✭blind_hurler


    Hi have a T90si in my house which we moved into around 14months ago
    It doesn't get overused as there is only two of us in the house but lately
    it has started to go from hot to cold then you can hear what sounds like the
    motor change noise and then it starts letting out nice hot water again.

    We are in a hard water area would that make a difference??

    Any ideas what the problem can be as it's no fun getting

    cold water when you have soap in your eyes :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 302 ✭✭blind_hurler


    Hi have a T90si in my house which we moved into around 14months ago
    It doesn't get overused as there is only two of us in the house but lately
    it has started to go from hot to cold then you can hear what sounds like the
    motor change noise and then it starts letting out nice hot water again.

    We are in a hard water area would that make a difference??

    Any ideas what the problem can be as it's no fun getting

    cold water when you have soap in your eyes :)

    anyone???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭hogandrew


    anyone???


    Id say to check if there is air or dirt in it... if you take off the cover ther is a round white plastic peace about 30mm in diameter if you take that out and clean out the insde of it might work ( there is a built in valve so no need to turn off the water ) to bleed it of air when you have ths done there is another plastc peace facing to the left and shaped lke a cog... open this slightly and bleed similar to a rad until the air is gone if any...

    MAKE SURE AND TURN OFF POWER TO THE SHOWER BEFORE REMOVING LID


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭MingulayJohnny


    Hey everybody , I have a Triton T90 Si in the flat that I rent , it cycles from hot to cold every 10-15 secs. The landlady claims that she had a repair man around and he gave it a service , which is obviously bull****. How and ever every time I turn the shower on a Sulphur like smell comes from the shower for about thirty seconds. Does anybody know if this could be down to a blocked filter or is it connected to sewage somehow? It's been giving me a sore throat lately after taking a shower. I never had a power shower in any place I've ever lived before and I'm a bit ignorant about them. Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭Traditional


    Triton t 90 is one of the worst showers you can fit in your house not only does it use a tremdous amount of electricty as a BER rating on your house will tell you and gives a performance of a watering can but can also scald you if it starts going faulty , how about fitting a thermostatic one for the same price and giving you the shower of your life with 7 settings on it for low or full boost .
    there is a new power shower out our plumber fitted one and its a dream to be under it . medium, powerful & hard settings on it .all for 500e never use a triton again .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭Traditional


    its not a power shower you have its a electric shower , take shower out of holster and let it hang down towards floor , turn on shower, turn it to the cold setting all the way run it for a few mins , this sometimes clears any airlocks in shower . then slowly turn it back to last hot settings.
    if it was a power shower it would not act up , that type of shower are poor quality and give the performace of a watering can .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭Dopey


    .... how about fitting a thermostatic one for the same price and giving you the shower of your life with 7 settings on it for low or full boost .
    there is a new power shower out our plumber fitted one and its a dream to be under it . medium, powerful & hard settings on it .all for 500e never use a triton again .

    Can you give us a pointer to the product you are talking about?

    I presume this shower you are referring to pumps the water but doesn't heat it. Is that right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭Traditional


    if you look up a plumber called a+a in yellow pages he will fill u in on the one fitted for me .it is a power shower full thermostatic which means it mixes the water auto and uses very little hot water .
    with a triton you have to heat water twice , this system only once.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭Duiske


    if you look up a plumber called a+a in yellow pages he will fill u in on the one fitted for me .

    Rather than having us call Joe the Plumber, could you gave us the make and model ? Would be easier to just google it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭Traditional


    The one i have is call a Horizon B 20 .
    just got out of it 10 min ago what a shower, i pity those people that have them tritons .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭Dopey


    The one i have is call a Horizon B 20 .
    just got out of it 10 min ago what a shower, i pity those people that have them tritons .

    Couldn't find anything on the internet about it. If you find out more let us know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭Traditional


    well as far as i know that plumber brings them in himself , thats why he can fit them reasonable .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭Traditional


    sounds and smells as if its burning out fast, melt down will be next Tritons are trash .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 mfitz53


    My Triton t90xr wont stop leaking ater i turn it off. Its two years old, any suggestions?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭hogandrew


    mfitz53 wrote: »
    My Triton t90xr wont stop leaking ater i turn it off. Its two years old, any suggestions?

    Most likely dirt catching in the vavle. possibly a dodgy seal. Where do you live


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,669 ✭✭✭mukki


    wonder who will bump this thread next, and when


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Demps


    Didnt have to wait too long for a "bump"

    Couple of questions I am replacing a 9 year ols Triton T90si with a T90xr

    1. Have been told all connections are same and should be easy enough job - true?
    2. How much should it cost for electrician to install (Shower will be provided)?

    Thanks for replies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭Traditional


    hi all the conections are the same , so its a straight swap , the tank in attic may need to be drained down , about 100e it should cost . i know of a guy who could do it for you .


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