Is this possible?

Theresalwaysone

Adidas say "Impossible Is Nothing".... After reading here for sometime Im beginning to disagree with this marketing crap BUT I have a few questions!

Is it possible for me to lose 1 stone in a month or shorter?
Does age affect rate of weight loss/Metabolism?

Heres my proposed regime...

First thing in the morning before brekkie: 3km Jog
5pm or so every second day: 3km cycle ,Weights every other second day(instead of cycle).

My proposed Diet:(not all at once but choices)

WATER

Breakfast:
Eggs poached or scrambled on toast (wholemeal)
Porridge w/ Honey

Snack 11 or 12am: fruit, tin of tuna, Fruit smoothie

Lunch(biggest meal): Sandwich Salmon/Tuna/ Chicken/ etc
Eggs
Fruit smoothie

Snack(same as above)

Dinner: I dont know(any suggestions to help me)

Nothing to be eaten after 7pm.

I plan on going cold turkey from my present eating habits.
I am young, 19, and doing this because
A: am unhappy with current weight (in college eating fast food and drinking)
B: Have a bet with the lads(great motivation)
C: My clothes dont fit me anymore

Can anyone help me?
Oh and how much would alcohol affect this weight loss?

I need help and know I wont be let down. thanks everyone

brianthebard

Well if you drink like an "average student" then the drink will almost totally negate your gains. I'm not passing judgement here, I drink but if you are trying to lose a stone in the shortest time possible, it will definitely slow that down an awful lot.

A stone is what, 10kg? More, less? No way you could lose 10kg of fat in a month, without harming health imo at least.

Theresalwaysone

a stone is 6kg..... if that makes a difference?
And yes but im willing to completely rule out drink until Im happy with results (plus im broke)

brianthebard

Ah thought a stone was more. Well 6kg is easier than 10, but its still a lot. The best I've heard suggested was a kilo a week unless you do some extreme bodybuilder cut but that won't really be suitable unless you are a bodybuilder. its definitely a good idea to cut out the drink imo, even just for a short while. (although RAG week is this week for me. Luckily its a pretty crap line up...)

Also you didn't say what height or weight you are at the minute...And I'm fairly sure from the proposed diet that you won't be eating enough. *pretends to be daveirl* have you read the stickies on diet?

Theresalwaysone

IM 5'9'' I think, and nearly 14 stone! fat fu.cker! Pretty drastic huh?

Theresalwaysone

13 10 to be precise

brianthebard

Are you starting from nothing ito exercise or do you consider yourself fairly fit? Your cardio plan seems fairly brutal, if that was me I wouldn't be able for it I think. Also you haven't outlined what you plan to do with the weights-try making a plan so people here can offer advice on it. You won't get it right first time but that shouldn't stop you. I'm pretty much in the same place as yourself, and I plan to have lost 10kg of fat by May. I'm not sure if I'm being too easy on myself but it definitely feels more achievable. In the meantime I have several weightlifting goals that I want to beat. Dividing them into short medium and long term goals means I can always aim for something without it being too far away from me.

Theresalwaysone

Well I dont know much about weights but The basics! Bicep curls, Push ups, crunches etc! I dont know?

And See thats my problem, I used to be extremely fit. My 3k Jog wud take roughly 15 mins! I want to get back to that, Im 2 stone heavier than i was this time last year!


Ok just checked my diary and i was 17 mins and 53 seconds!

Clive

Theresalwaysone wrote:

Is it possible for me to lose 1 stone in a month or shorter?

If you're over 80 kilos you could easily lose a stone in one day, never mind a month. The issue is, could you lose it healthily or not?

Most students, in my opinion, neither train nor drink as hard as they would like to think they do, so that evens it out.

Seriously though unless you're some kind of athlete, why are you trying to lose a specific amount of weight in a specific time? Would it not be better to focus on eating well and exercising regularly?

thirtysomething

On the positive side, as a student you will have a bit more time than the average working person.

You also may have access to inexpensive gym membership.

There are probably also a number of societies you could get involed with to broaden your aerobic persuits.

brianthebard

Where are you studying OP? If you are near Maynooth, I can try to help you out. I won't claim to be anything other than a n00b myself, but I do have a wee bit of experience.

rubadub

Theresalwaysone wrote:

Well I dont know much about weights but The basics! Bicep curls, Push ups, crunches etc! I dont know?

And See thats my problem, I used to be extremely fit. My 3k Jog wud take roughly 15 mins! I want to get back to that, Im 2 stone heavier than i was this time last year!

Read up on the weights, you dont want to waste your time throwing around dumb-bells without knowing what your body is really doing. try www.exrx.net

to loose 14lb you need a calorie deficit of 49000kcal,
In 4 weeks that is 3.5lb per week which is certainly not recommended. You should lose no more than 2lb per week for a healthy SUSTAINABLE weight loss. Weights will help keep muscle while on the calorie deficit.
2lb a week means it can be done in 7 weeks, which is 49days, so that means a calorie deficit of 1000kcal per day. This could be achieved by eating 500kcal less than your basic basal metabolism needs, combined with 1 hour of exercise to burn 500kcal. So overall your calorie expenditure is 1000kcal less, or you could eat the same and do 2 x1 hour workouts.

Your 3km run will expend more calories now, it is like you are running with 2 stone more now, instead of measuring distances you should jog for 30mins or an hour, rather than distance. The fitter & lighter you get the easier 3km will be.

davyjose

I lost 6 kilo between January 5th and 31st. To be honest though it was too much weight, and I definitely lost muscle.
OP be careful - you want to lose fat, not muscle; so really any weight-loss should be slight. Obviously your not going to put on a stone of muscle in a month, but if you lose that much weight your going to be sacrificing what muscle you have.
The thing about putting on muscle is that even if your bodyfat is high enough, you can still look kinda good. Because you've got the good posture, the good bodyshape, the big shoulders etc. Whereas if you get skinny, you have to bring your bodyfat% waaaay down in order to look in any way decent, if you see what I mean.

Theresalwaysone

OK, thanks everyone!
So basically what your saying is that Its not possible in 4 weeks but maybe 6 or 7?

Is my diet ok?

brianthebard

Tbh I think you could do with eating a bit more, at least 1500 calories a day. Where are you studying then?

davyjose

Theresalwaysone wrote:

OK, thanks everyone!
So basically what your saying is that Its not possible in 4 weeks but maybe 6 or 7?

It's possible - just not advisable.

rubadub

Theresalwaysone wrote:

So basically what your saying is that Its not possible in 4 weeks but maybe 6 or 7

Personally I aimed for 1lb a week loss. This was bearing in mind that I was lifting weights so knew I would be adding muscle. When you start lifting you can add muscle quite quickly, some say up to 1lb a week, most say the average beginner would be about 1/2lb per week.

Do not focus on weight loss. I can weigh up to 7lb difference during a week, depending on hydration, what I ate, when I last went to the toilet!
For several months I weighed a constant 12 stone, loosing fat and gaining muscle at the same slow controlled rate, dropping in jean sizes putting new notches on my belt every 3 weeks or so.

Theresalwaysone

Ok cool, thanks for the help everyone!

So what would you all recommend I change in my proposed diet and cardio in my original post?

FX Meister

Friend of mine is on some weird diet thing called lipotrim, or something like that. He lost a stone in a week. It involves taking a drug to suppress appetite and then eating food they provide which ocontains 800 caolories for the day. Sounds nutso to me but then he is 6'3" and 17 stone.

mloc

How active are you? What current level of activity do you undertake?

With some SERIOUSLY strict dieting and a pretty intense training regimen, I reckon you could cut 6kg in as many weeks. You might, indeed probably will lose muscle. But it's up to you if thats ok.

Vinnie K

FX Meister wrote:

Friend of mine is on some weird diet thing called lipotrim, or something like that. He lost a stone in a week. It involves taking a drug to suppress appetite and then eating food they provide which ocontains 800 caolories for the day. Sounds nutso to me but then he is 6'3" and 17 stone.

What kind of food do they provide for him?? Looseing a stone in a week, would that not be bad for your health?? Is that prescription or did he just buy it over the counter somewhere??

Dragan

No offence to the chap, but if he's 6'3 and 17 stone and he needs Lipotrim then he hasn't really tried up to now.

Malteaser!

it definately is possible, i can't really comment on how healthy it is because i actually don't know!

i lost 23lbs between the 3rd of jan and the 31st of jan, i hadn't intended on losing it that quickly, i didn't have a target date as to when i'd finish the diet but when i cut out all fastfoods and stopped eating and drinking foods that were loaded with sugar the weight literally fell off me, i don't know how i could have done it any slower, i started to eat more and lost weight!

before i started i ate no breakfast, in college i'd have some kind of sandwich loaded with calories(mayonaisse, bacon, colelsaw etc), i'd drop into a macdonalds or burgerking on the way home and get some more crap in there then when i got home i'd have dinner(usually,chicken potatoes and veg) oh and i work in a bar but they have a restaurant in it and i could quite happily work my way through one of those bread baskets and then have some kind of chocolate desert on my break, i'd also drink 2-3 bottles of coke during the day as well!

i was never fat, but i was getting annyoed that i wasnt as thin as i used to be! Atfer Chrismas i put everything i ate into fitday and worked out that i needed to be eating about 1700 calories a day!

i started eating breakfast, porridge with raisons and flaxseed mixed in and without sugar(that was massive for me coz any time i did eat porrigde before i actually stirred the sugar into in before i cooked it and sprinkled sugar on top when it was cooked!), for lunch i'd have brown bread with salmon and salad oe something similar, and for dinner i'd have what i had before! i ate loads of fruit and nuts during the day if i got hungry and most definately didn't eat the chocolate cake from work! i replaced the coke with water!

i always came out at about 1700 a day sometimes i was waaayyyy over and sometimes i was under but 1700 was the norm!

since the end of january i've kind of slackened a little bit, but not too much, i still eat right but im not AS strict as i was on eating proper foods, i havn't put on any weight since then or lost any more!

so basically it IS possible, i haven't noticed any difference in my health since i started if anything i have more energy now then id id before, but maybe i've totally destroyed myself and i just don't know about it yet!!

(i meant to say, i'm 19, went from 150lbs to 127lbs, 5ft10ins)

daveirl

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rubadub

FX Meister wrote:

Friend of mine is on some weird diet thing called lipotrim, or something like that. He lost a stone in a week. It involves taking a drug to suppress appetite and then eating food they provide which ocontains 800 caolories for the day. Sounds nutso to me but then he is 6'3" and 17 stone.

Lipotrim for men is only about 550kcal for men, what is worse is they do not mention height, 550kcal for a dwarf or a 7ft wrestler!
Disgraceful amount and only suitable for somebody where the health benefit of immediate weight loss outweighs the terrible side-effects on the body of such extreme weight loss (i.e. obese people consulted by an experienced & qualified doctor).

rubadub

Malteaser! wrote:

i lost 23lbs between the 3rd of jan and the 31st of jan,

(i meant to say, i'm 19, went from 150lbs to 127lbs, 5ft10ins)

That is almost 6lb per week. The recommended is 1-2lb, and for an already normal weight woman like yourself it should be closer to the 1lb per week. In saying that it looks like you were perfectly sensible and I reckon it was not all fat/muscle loss. The math doesnt add up. To loose 1lb you need a calorie deficit of 3500kcal, that means you would have needed an average 2875kcal deficit per day, since you were eating 1700kcal+ this is a 300kcal deficit from the average 2000kcal for women, so you would have needed 2575kcal to be burned with exercise, about 5 hours of cardio.

I suspect you may have been carrying water weight over christmas. perhaps were hydrated or full of food! maybe a different scale. I can weigh 7lb difference over the course of a few days. Did you use the same scale & clothing?

I dont mean to dishearten by saying you didnt lose 23lb, more to alay your fears that you overdid it, you obviously have lost weight, and due to normal sensible eating habits, well done.

Hanley

The general rule with low carb diets is that the majority of the first weeks loss with be water/glycogen.

I would imagine in the region of 18lbs was fat, which comes out to about 4ish lbs a week, which seems more realistic.

EDIT: Wow... you've way too much time on your hands if you're working out the maths of it.

Malteaser!

rubadub wrote:

That is almost 6lb per week. The recommended is 1-2lb, and for an already normal weight woman like yourself it should be closer to the 1lb per week. In saying that it looks like you were perfectly sensible and I reckon it was not all fat/muscle loss. The math doesnt add up. To loose 1lb you need a calorie deficit of 3500kcal, that means you would have needed an average 2875kcal deficit per day, since you were eating 1700kcal+ this is a 300kcal deficit from the average 2000kcal for women, so you would have needed 2575kcal to be burned with exercise, about 5 hours of cardio.

I suspect you may have been carrying water weight over christmas. perhaps were hydrated or full of food! maybe a different scale. I can weigh 7lb difference over the course of a few days. Did you use the same scale & clothing?

I dont mean to dishearten by saying you didnt lose 23lb, more to alay your fears that you overdid it, you obviously have lost weight, and due to normal sensible eating habits, well done.

i started the diet on the 3rd of jan and weighed in at 150lbs, i've since weighed myself every wednesday morning on the same scales with no clothes on!

on the 10th of jan, i was down to 137lbs, on the 17th i was 134lbs, on the 24th i was down to 131lbs and then jan 31st i got to 127lbs!

i mean i lost 13lbs in the first week, a lot of that was probably water and glycogen and after the that the amount kind of evened out!

I remember being really shocked getting off the scales each week and practically dancing around the place with excitement!

i don't really feel i overdid it, i know i was sensible in what i was doing, it wasnt some crash diet, it was more an overhaul of my whole lifestyle that i've stuck to and the whole thing has just become routine now!

i was never really unhappy with how i looked,i was really unhappy with how i felt when i ate though!i'd go into macdonalds/BK 4 to 5 times a week and the chipper or dominoes one or two times! everyday i said i'd stop what the way i was eating tomorrow but it nnever happened, it wasn't making me fat surprisingly, i just felt bloated and yuck all the time! like i said i never expected results that i got but i'm not complaining!!

(i actually feel sick at the smell of Macd's and BK now!!)

daveirl

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Hanley

I'm not disputing how effective water manipulation is!! I've gone from 93.3kg to 88.8kg over the course of 7 days in that manner. 4.5kgs like!

I just don't think Malteaser! would have done that. Especially considering the weight seems to be fairly level now.

Unless you mean she binged coming up to the inital weigh day. (which I just realised is probably what you meant)

rubadub

Malteaser! wrote:

i've since weighed myself every wednesday morning on the same scales with no clothes on!..... getting off the scales each week and practically dancing around the place with excitement!

every wednesday ehh..Did I mention how important it is to have the curtains open at this time, please pm me your address
Seriously though you were saying you were feeling bloated which may have had an effect, retaining lots of fluid.

Wow... you've way too much time on your hands if you're working out the maths of it.

I know! I am nerdy about my math and I love counting calories since it makes it so simple and understandable.

Hanley

rubadub wrote:

every wednesday ehh..Did I mention how important it is to have the curtains open at this time, please pm me your address
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You do realise you're talking to my girlfriend, right?

brianthebard

Hanley wrote:

You do realise you're talking to my girlfriend, right?

Fucking brilliant!

Dragan

"Previously, on Fitness......."

daveirl

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g'em

Hanley wrote:

You do realise you're talking to my girlfriend, right?

Comedy moment of the week, fugglin brilliant

rubadub

Hanley wrote:

You do realise you're talking to my girlfriend, right?

I'll get me coat....

Sangre

going to her house?

amazingemmet

Lmao people are looking at me

the demon

why would you want to lose that much weight in a month?? i agree with the bloke that said its better to lose it healthily! also at your weight i wouldnt say you look "fat" unless you are only 4 foot tall? Im 6foot and weigh about 16 stone and dont look fat! try not to get caught up in the " i look fat" circle. you are only a kid, eat healthily and exercise regularly and your body will tow the line! enjoy your life

CerebralCortex

burntCornlake wrote:

What kind of food do they provide for him?? Looseing a stone in a week, would that not be bad for your health?? Is that prescription or did he just buy it over the counter somewhere??

Very. Excess fat is full of toxins and when you loose it that quick all those toxins are released into your body in a short space of time. Not good.

Reyman

Theresalwaysone wrote:

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And See thats my problem, I used to be extremely fit. My 3k Jog wud take roughly 15 mins! I want to get back to that, Im 2 stone heavier than i was this time last year!


Ok just checked my diary and i was 17 mins and 53 seconds!

Hey lad! Give us a break that's about 10 mins a mile and you were extremely fit ? A lot of 60 year old ladies (and maybe guys) would do better.

I think maybe you should get serious about your health and stop messing around trying to crash diet for a month.