Soya protein

TerrorFirmer

Basically - any opinions? Due to being a poor student my diet could really be better, but I've to make do. Now - this stuff, Soya Protein, costs effectively about 30% of Pro-x for example (at least, in my area, I'm sure the difference is not so huge purchasing online but thats not an option for me either). The nutrional values are slightly lower (maybe 18g protein per serving as opposed to 24 with pro-x).

I can't afford to continue buying Pro-x right now, but this one seems a semi-decent alternative - better then nothing, if you will. It's about 15 euro for 16 servings. Oh and - its called Spiru-tena or something along those lines. 99kcal and 18g protein per serving.

So what say you?

justsomebloke

truthfully it sounds like it is going to end up costing you more then prox

with prox for €90 you get approx 182 serving, so just less then 50c per serving (with more protein er serving aswell)

with the soya it is €15 for 16 serving, so just under .94c per serving (with only 75% of the protein)

(I can't actually off the top of head remember what the amino acid profile of soya protein is like so I can't say how good it is)

amazingemmet

Iirc i remember charles poloquin quoting some study that showed asian will absorb 70% of soya consumed and the average cacasian will only absorb 16% of soya, plus too much soya is bad for the ol hormones

Degsy

Way i remember it its has a very poor amino acid profile and its an oestregen promoter..not good news!!

yomchi

Poor old Soy ain't that bad guys!

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/soy.html

Its a b'terd to mix tho!

TerrorFirmer

Thanks - not the worst to stick with so. And again JSB, I can't buy anything online so the price you quoted whilst true isn't really applicable to me

brianthebard

Have you thought of getting a 3V voucher Havok? I'm in the student boat with you and I got one to order to protein basically. Its worth a try.

TerrorFirmer

Yeah but there's feck all places here in Galway that do them, and conveniently when I did try using 3V, the machines were all 'not working today' - all the times I tried, in every shop.

yomchi

I was just going to mention the 3V vouchers snd Paypal accept them also!

hardtrainer

If you search the forum you'll see a long thread about Soy from a year or so ago. I wouldn't recommend using it. It's not a very good protein for what you are looking for. The articles that you generally find online, promoting Soy as some kind of secret wonder from China and Japan are all paid for by the groups that wish to promote soy, and believe me, they REALLY want to promote it.

Soy is a high protein cash crop, is being planted in vast quantities all over brazil and tropical asia because it crops more than once per year and the harvest is highly mecanised which means low labour costs. Hundreds of thousands of hectares of virgin rain forest are illegally cut each year in just one region of brazil, by the wealthy land owners (mostly politicians too..) to plant soy.

It was used as an animal feed until late in the 80s some US farmers realised that they could turn their cheap animal feed into a very lucrative crop by targeting the human consumer. Yes, soy is used in asia, but still primarily as an animal feed. The amount of soy curd (tofu) that is actually eaten is far less than is often eaten by westerners in their attempts to use it as a meat substitute. There have been numerous links made between soy and various cancers. Whats new there, they link everything to cancer these days, so I wouldn't pay much attention to that.

I would pay attention though, to the phytoestrogen content of soy products, which is not required to be limited. Basically soy contains phytoestrogens, plant hormones that work in the same way as oestrogen. They are active in humans and are robust, meaning that they are not easily destroyed by the purification process. Soy can feminize if taken in large quantities. I wouldn't want to go eating a lot of soy or taking a lot of soy protein. The amino acid profile is ok, but it's nothing special. Soy is cheap though and it's animal free, so some people opt for it, but I would advise against comsuming large quantities of any soy product, be that tofu or purified soy protein.

TerrorFirmer

Ok. You've scared me off now. I think i'll finish this batch and just rob an old woman to buy some pro-x...better then growing a pair of moobs, like.