More to it than this?

LegacyUser

There's more to it than this, right?

I'm sick of it all:
getting up, going to work, getting over-worked and under paid, going home, having dinner, playing a bit on the PC/watching TV, going to bed - repeat five times a week.
getting boozed up at the weekends, fooling around with the missus for a bit of comedy relief,
never having any money, alway 'getting by', never making a difference.....

.........and repeat til retirement/ death/ cranial explosion.

where's the reason for living? I feel like i'm stuck in a cage, but with no way to get out, and nowhere to go anyway.

I signed up for excitement, adventure and really wild thing, all i got was a bland, grey, broken record.

I want my money back, this sucks

dellas1979

Jees - what a terrible life you have ........

Those poor people around the world must be having a great time in comparison to you.

My advice? Wake up and smell the coffee. If you are unhappy find out why and do something about it.

Faith

No, that's not all there is, OP. [PI cliché]Why don't you take a holiday, or go travelling for a year? Backpack around Asia/Australia, interrail around Europe... You're never too old to do those things! Alternatively, look for a new job, one that excites you and pays you enough. Think about moving to a different country if the one you're in doesn't fulfill your needs. Take up an exciting hobby, like skydiving or flying a plane.[/PI cliché]

Life is what you make of it, don't forget that!

Kinetic^

As faith said, it's what you make out of it yourself.

Petey2006

Prof. Bumphead wrote:

fooling around with the missus for a bit of comedy relief,

Hahahahaha! Anyways, why not take up a hobby? It may seem fairly obvious, but if you find something you feel passionately about, you'll feel a whole lot better about life.

LegacyUser

If you feel thats all there is too life, then thats all there will
be, you need to STOP looking at all the bad stuff and start
seeing the good, sure everyone has their days were they think
'whats it all for' but you only get one go at life, yes you
have to go to work to pay the bills etc but there is also
alot of other cool things you could be doing, get a hobby etc.,

What does your girlfriend think? is she the same?

Anti

dellas1979 wrote:

Jees - what a terrible life you have ........

Those poor people around the world must be having a great time in comparison to you.

My advice? Wake up and smell the coffee. If you are unhappy find out why and do something about it.

What type of a responce is that ?


OP i know how you feel, in my last job i had the same,and hated it. For me to change it i just moved countries, got a great job new friends ect ect. All is great now, i wake at 6am every day with a smile. instead of wanting to throw myself under a bus.

So i would suggest that you change things. jobwise first, then your social life. Maybe take up a sport.
Anyway best of luck.

Thomas_S_Hunterson

Anti wrote:

What type of a responce is that ?

It's pretty good advice if you ask me.

If you get stuck in a rut, then the one person best able to start you off again is yourself.

WhiteWashMan

Prof. Bumphead wrote:

There's more to it than this, right?

I'm sick of it all:
getting up, going to work, getting over-worked and under paid, going home, having dinner, playing a bit on the PC/watching TV, going to bed - repeat five times a week.
getting boozed up at the weekends, fooling around with the missus for a bit of comedy relief,
never having any money, alway 'getting by', never making a difference.....

.........and repeat til retirement/ death/ cranial explosion.

where's the reason for living? I feel like i'm stuck in a cage, but with no way to get out, and nowhere to go anyway.

I signed up for excitement, adventure and really wild thing, all i got was a bland, grey, broken record.

I want my money back, this sucks

so, what are you doing to change it?

Marksie

Prof. Bumphead wrote:

I signed up for excitement, adventure and really wild thing, all i got was a bland, grey, broken record.

I want my money back, this sucks

So the job desription changed. and you dont get anything on credit

If i get into a rut i do something slightly different to break the routine:

Consequently I can:
ski
fish
parachute
use meditational tantra
have great partners
play with software
ride a bike
walk
swim
make candles
have an eye for photography
etc.
etc
etc.
Oh an go on boards and meet new and interesting people of like mind .

and guess what..sometimes all i want is a bland broken record at times.

So as WWM says wahta are YOU going to do about it. You won't learn to snorkel on the sofa.

mickith

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCWw6W5NEa8

it could be worse op

imeatingchips

Prof. Bumphead wrote:

I signed up for excitement, adventure and really wild thing, all i got was a bland, grey, broken record.

I want my money back, this sucks

It's fairly obvious that the only thing you signed up for was a crap job and sky digital. what are you bloody whinging about? you stay in your crap job (cos it's too much hassle to move isnt it?), you sit on your hole watching telly, few gargles, the odd grope with the missus and you do shag all else but somehow, you feel you are owed, by life and/or other people, some amazing show especially put on for your entertainment?

either:
a) You've occupied yourself with too much trivial crap and haven't thought about what you really want to do - in which case, go for a walk and have a little ponder to yourself
b) you're too afraid to leave your comfort zone to do anything - in which case grow a set of balls
c) you're a lazy bollix - in which case, stop being such a lazy little bollix

imeatingchips to the rescue

ps you probably could do with a nice snappy slap too

LegacyUser

'Sounds like you dont go out much during the week and only see your girlfriend at the weekend - maybe you need to get out more - can you not go out with her during the week or maybe even go out with friends. I know from experience that its very lonely going home to an empty apartment (I only lasted 6 months then the girlfriend moved back and things got better) Life is too short to spend it alone!!

Get out there and live - excitement wont find you - you need to find it.'

onemanband

If you have kinds the cop the fcuk on and start being a responsible grown up and a good father to them.

If you don't (and i suspect you don't), quit your job, dump your missus, cash in your assets and jump on a plane. You may have a ball or you may end up dead. Either way its better than being the miserable sod you are at the moment!

The Corinthian

Prof. Bumphead wrote:

where's the reason for living? I feel like i'm stuck in a cage, but with no way to get out, and nowhere to go anyway.

I signed up for excitement, adventure and really wild thing, all i got was a bland, grey, broken record.

I want my money back, this sucks

Cry me a river. You're grazing through life like cattle without a modicum of initiative or self-determination and wondering why someone isn't coming up to you and handing you a purpose in life or some excitement. Seriously, it's people like you who join cults.

We make our own purpose, our own excitement. If you don't like your life the way it is, then change it. If you think you're missing something, then go out and find it. Whining about it is not going to do that for you and no one is going to hand you a purpose unless they want to convert you to some fruitcake religion as part of the deal. All that whining achieves is that it might make you feel like a martyr - and if that does it for you, well, who am I to deny you your little pleasures.

So if you're unhappy, do something about it. You and you alone are the only one who can do that.

The Sweeper

marksuttonie wrote:

Consequently I can:
ski
fish
parachute
use meditational tantra
have great partners
play with software
ride a bike
walk
swim
make candles
have an eye for photography

OP: buy a box of tampax and you too can have a life like marksutton's...

But no seriously. If nothing else, try and find an evening class - it might stimulate some interest in something else.

daiixi

Faith wrote:

No, that's not all there is, OP. [PI cliché]Why don't you take a holiday, or go travelling for a year? Backpack around Asia/Australia, interrail around Europe... You're never too old to do those things! Alternatively, look for a new job, one that excites you and pays you enough. Think about moving to a different country if the one you're in doesn't fulfill your needs. Take up an exciting hobby, like skydiving or flying a plane.[/PI cliché]

Life is what you make of it, don't forget that!

To be perfectly honest with you Faith if the OP is bored with life as it is then he's going to get pretty damn bored of travelling too. There's only so long you can constantly be on the move, live out of a backpack. There's only so many waterfalls, cliffs, hills, churches etc that you can see before you crave the normality that is a 9-5 job. Before all you want to do is walk through a supermarket and now that you can buy a weeks load of groceries and actually have a kitchen to keep/cook them in!

The only person who can make the OP's life worth living is the OP.

siners71

Prof. Bumphead wrote:

There's more to it than this, right?

I'm sick of it all:
getting up, going to work, getting over-worked and under paid, going home, having dinner, playing a bit on the PC/watching TV, going to bed - repeat five times a week.
getting boozed up at the weekends, fooling around with the missus for a bit of comedy relief,
never having any money, alway 'getting by', never making a difference.....

.........and repeat til retirement/ death/ cranial explosion.

where's the reason for living? I feel like i'm stuck in a cage, but with no way to get out, and nowhere to go anyway.

I signed up for excitement, adventure and really wild thing, all i got was a bland, grey, broken record.

I want my money back, this sucks

that the very least you are fooling around!!! be thankful for something:)

Faith

daiixi wrote:

To be perfectly honest with you Faith if the OP is bored with life as it is then he's going to get pretty damn bored of travelling too. There's only so long you can constantly be on the move, live out of a backpack. There's only so many waterfalls, cliffs, hills, churches etc that you can see before you crave the normality that is a 9-5 job. Before all you want to do is walk through a supermarket and now that you can buy a weeks load of groceries and actually have a kitchen to keep/cook them in!

The only person who can make the OP's life worth living is the OP.

Aye, I'm not suggesting he goes traveling for years, maybe just a short period of time to get a new perspective on life, and see that there's actually more to the world.

Wibbs

The Corinthian wrote:

Cry me a river. You're grazing through life like cattle without a modicum of initiative or self-determination and wondering why someone isn't coming up to you and handing you a purpose in life or some excitement. Seriously, it's people like you who join cults.

We make our own purpose, our own excitement. If you don't like your life the way it is, then change it. If you think you're missing something, then go out and find it. Whining about it is not going to do that for you and no one is going to hand you a purpose unless they want to convert you to some fruitcake religion as part of the deal. All that whining achieves is that it might make you feel like a martyr - and if that does it for you, well, who am I to deny you your little pleasures.

So if you're unhappy, do something about it. You and you alone are the only one who can do that.

Respect. This deserves reposting. Now, The Corinthian is a smartarse. fact. Luckily for you and the rest of us the former syllable of that description far outweighs the latter by a country mile('bout 15K for the metric newbies), so that advice is worth re-reading and absorbing. Though I do see where Minesajackdaniels is going with the whole tampon part, but that's just us...

Look, bear with me while I respectfully suggest that you cop the hell on. Let's recap; You have a job, you have a "missus", who must really love this "comedy relief" lark. You have food in your belly and a roof over your head. That woe is me stuff went out with the bow and arrow for people in your position. If you really look at your life you'll see you're way better off than you think. If you're not then The Corinthian's advice to look to yourself is well worth heeding.

LegacyUser

Very good question. And I know the feeling. But not many people care, yes. You need to realise you are 1 of only your own world the rest of society lives the same, wonders the same about the higher meaning bull yes. But I don't think it's bull.
Here,
If eyes, eyes are proven by sight(our basic learning sense of many abilities-reading writing etc), prove that you have an eye. You can't disprove what you can't see, so what lies at the minds eye other than neurotransmitters etc, is not provable or disprovable as a high energy mind that is capable of many talents. But for this day, we need to make career and a social life so we are adjusted to believing life is about what we see as the norm.

I'm a 22 year old male, and I'm abstract 3 thousand percent more than most people. And gifted yes, a social dunce yes. A clown of the class, yes. a reject, yes. So I'm neurotic to a lot but, i think differently and on a different level than most people so I see what some can't
I'm dyslexic and people see words better than me but I can't read as well what others write, but instead I think deeply and abstractly about things they write about in logical sequence. You think deep, to a medium degee like me. But I'm not dared by life at all, I call life a hill of crap; too boring and predictable for people like me. And I call everyone ba)*tards etc, because life to me is a tedious journey that I use stimulants, high stimulation holidays etc to numb out of boring queues and boring days i need to fullfill to live(so they say).
So I started using my thought, my abstract reasoning to explain my reason for my existence. I was an airbrain, NO. Very intelligent, but I hated doing schoolwork, and anything to read, I wrote and talked very smart but people laughed Ifailed because i was too busy dancing and thinking why take life seriously? The setup of life is not my way, why should I suffer the label " a failure" for other peoples standards? And that defies individual character of our society. We must conform as a society not as individual people in a respect of 100 percent. Laws, etc are necessary, but being expected to get A's etc in college to be a somebody is ridiculous and non sensible.

I mean, take time to reflect on who you are and why you are here.
And 45% of the population have not questioned they're here and who they really are.
You ask yourself this, do I belong in a life as bad as this, If I have attained social success. And attaining a life of downs and ups. The down is a chemical state of your biological predicament.And the upper feeling is the belief in higher meaning, and our confidence is incresed and our work is better, our outlook more positive.

I badly think when we die, our chemicals cease to influence our emotions, and physical debilitation of our upper feeling; when we die we travel beyound current existence of physical and mental conditions combined as 1 to a door of black hole of matter than we are on the edge of here in life. And our minds are intuitive enough. Hope you're allowed up, feel good. I can't call proof on that, but I'm a cake of lowlife here, but why am i born? To reproduce, NO I hate that. I'm not for the norm at all. You're killed by dark clouds now, But kill you're downer feeling DE it's for after eternity to know.GOODBYE.

WindSock

Have you considered letting Jesus into your life?

But seriously I reckon It's the telly thats doing you harm.
It's so easy to get stuck in a rut with telly around, you sort of plan your week around it. Then you watch things just for the hell of it.

All/Most of your fellow passengers on the dart/bus/luas or in cars and on bikes and on foot making their way home from their similarly crap jobs probably have the same things on their minds, "oh i must watch such and such at 7 then at 7.30, I'll record that and watch blah"

I do it too myself, then I get an invitation to go out somewhere and my initial thought is 'aww but I'll miss...''then I go and have a great time and forget all about missing my telly timetable and kick myself for being so sad.

In conclusion, tv monopolises your productive you time.

Wibbs

Mirakkilski wrote:

Very good question. And I know the feeling. But not many people care,

Wrong. A surprising amount do care, though you may reject such advances

yes. You need to realise you are 1 of only your own world the rest of society lives the same,

Yes and you are still an individual in that society of apparently lessors.

wonders the same about the higher meaning bull yes. But I don't think it's bull.

It's not bull, depending on your viewpoint. Discovering one's viewpoint in relation to that is the real trick

If eyes, eyes are proven by sight(our basic learning sense of many abilities-reading writing etc), prove that you have an eye.

Jam a fork in it and find out.

You can't disprove what you can't see,

Only in basic cereal box philosophy maybe.

so what lies at the minds eye other than neurotransmitters etc, is not provable or disprovable as a high energy mind that is capable of many talents. But for this day, we need to make career and a social life so we are adjusted to believing life is about what we see as the norm.

Eh?

I'm a 22 year old male, and I'm abstract 3 thousand percent more than most people.

Good for you.

And gifted yes, a social dunce yes.

The former aspiration often informs the latter in the mind of the cocksure. What is genius if it doesn't involve the mundane in a different, yet recognisable light for everyone else?

A clown of the class, yes. a reject, yes. So I'm neurotic to a lot but, i think differently and on a different level than most people so I see what some can't

Again it must be great to be you.

I'm dyslexic

So what? So am I and many others. It's a challenge as well as a gift.

You think deep, to a medium degee like me.

Don't see much depth TBH, more an all too obvious adolescent reaction against what is construed as the "rest of the world"

But I'm not dared by life at all,

That's a good thing if you can pull it off.

I call life a hill of crap;

Stumbling at the first hurdle there Ted.

too boring and predictable for people like me.

You're not the first to see it like this and you won't be the last. Doesn't pan out in the long run though.

And I call everyone ba)*tards etc,

You will grow out of that. Trust me.

because life to me is a tedious journey

So you're better off than the wage slaves who think it's just peachy then? Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

So I started using my thought, my abstract reasoning to explain my reason for my existence.

Like many travelers before you.

I was an airbrain, NO. Very intelligent,

Making up one's mind is the beginning of wisdom.

why should I suffer the label " a failure" for other peoples standards?

Agreed.

but being expected to get A's etc in college to be a somebody is ridiculous and non sensible.

Agreed again.

I mean, take time to reflect on who you are and why you are here.

Good advice in principle. In practise no man is an island. Life is not always about abstraction. Sometimes, but pick the right time.

I badly think when we die, our chemicals cease to influence our emotions, and physical debilitation of our upper feeling; when we die we travel beyound current existence of physical and mental conditions combined as 1 to a door of black hole of matter than we are on the edge of here in life. And our minds are intuitive enough. Hope you're allowed up, feel good. I can't call proof on that, but I'm a cake of lowlife here, but why am i born? To reproduce, NO I hate that. I'm not for the norm at all. You're killed by dark clouds now, But kill you're downer feeling DE it's for after eternity to know.GOODBYE.

Mmmmmmm. M'kay. You've lost me there and I'm dyslexic. Must be thick then. I knew the whole dyslexia tag was just to make me feel better... BTW You do know what a black hole is?

Wibbs

boreds wrote:

Have you considered letting Jesus into your life?

Muhahhaha. I'm sure if he was about, he would have better things to be doing.

LegacyUser

boreds wrote:

Have you considered letting Jesus into your life?

But seriously I reckon It's the telly thats doing you harm.
It's so easy to get stuck in a rut with telly around, you sort of plan your week around it. Then you watch things just for the hell of it.

All/Most of your fellow passengers on the dart/bus/luas or in cars and on bikes and on foot making their way home from their similarly crap jobs probably have the same things on their minds, "oh i must watch such and such at 7 then at 7.30, I'll record that and watch blah"

I do it too myself, then I get an invitation to go out somewhere and my initial thought is 'aww but I'll miss...''then I go and have a great time and forget all about missing my telly timetable and kick myself for being so sad.

In conclusion, tv monopolises your productive you time.

That's called a quarter life crises. I never watch Tv and i never let cars crash my life either. I never failed my driving test to need to luas, You may have got rejected by a filling station type job like me but I don't hold grudges on so called crap jobs.

If my dad had a high paying job, aka invented idea based on elated ego of ones social status; I suppose I'd consider killing myself over him calling me a dunse.
And that's your mentality. And I'll consider you a success sir/man, if you consider the people you have classed in your post as worth living the rest without hindrance to sterotypes or bias.
Did you kill your cat for a thrill ever? That's morally wrong, but killed by a man of a high paying job, does that consider the cat wrong and him right to satisfy his high stimulation of cat murder? Just an example don't comment on the stupid example as I'll question you'r motive to do so.
And a failed driving test is why some walk not drive. You sound rich, middle class.
failed driving test, 2nd time I don't think so!
So I walk to walk, maybe.
You watch Tv, i know you're lying; im guessing .

Never judge a clown by their tricks if you don't laugh, question you're humour first, as not all clowns are funny as not all entertainees are dry or wet rags. So you decide how you take others, but don't force your opinion on others without considering the effects first.

You're agnostic yes, so Jesus is nobody to you so why do you care to mention him if you're agnostic!

LegacyUser

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Wibbs wrote:

Wrong. A surprising amount do care, though you may reject such advances
Yes and you are still an individual in that society of apparently lessors. It's not bull, depending on your viewpoint. Discovering one's viewpoint in relation to that is the real trick
Jam a fork in it and find out.Only in basic cereal box philosophy maybe. Eh?
Good for you. The former aspiration often informs the latter in the mind of the cocksure. What is genius if it doesn't involve the mundane in a different, yet recognisable light for everyone else? Again it must be great to be you.
So what? So am I and many others. It's a challenge as well as a gift. Don't see much depth TBH, more an all too obvious adolescent reaction against what is construed as the "rest of the world" That's a good thing if you can pull it off. Stumbling at the first hurdle there Ted. You're not the first to see it like this and you won't be the last. Doesn't pan out in the long run though. You will grow out of that. Trust me.So you're better off than the wage slaves who think it's just peachy then? Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

Like many travelers before you.Making up one's mind is the beginning of wisdom. Agreed. Agreed again.

Good advice in principle. In practise no man is an island. Life is not always about abstraction. Sometimes, but pick the right time.
Mmmmmmm. M'kay. You've lost me there and I'm dyslexic. Must be thick then. I knew the whole dyslexia tag was just to make me feel better... BTW You do know what a black hole is?

I never said dyslexia was dump. And I'm not a manic depressive. And I don't say the hill start failed my test.
So if it's good for me to be 22, why do you say that? Its for the benifit of your understanding me and my post. Do you take anger controlling substances?
Do I take drugs u asked about me. Yes a prescribed medication for a lung disease maybe cystic fibrosis.
U said am I for real, yes I think I am. And sticking a fork into the eye is your method not mine perhaps.
And I never left my country for this place, u questioned am i foreign, yes. Partly
You 3 are drinking now they said to us in college. that's not good
Black hole, u assumed I was dumb, and I got an A1 in honours maths not a C.
And you're not dyslexic.'

ballsofire23

Wibbs wrote:

Wrong. A surprising amount do care, though you may reject such advances
Yes and you are still an individual in that society of apparently lessors. It's not bull, depending on your viewpoint. Discovering one's viewpoint in relation to that is the real trick
Jam a fork in it and find out.Only in basic cereal box philosophy maybe. Eh?
Good for you. The former aspiration often informs the latter in the mind of the cocksure. What is genius if it doesn't involve the mundane in a different, yet recognisable light for everyone else? Again it must be great to be you.
So what? So am I and many others. It's a challenge as well as a gift. Don't see much depth TBH, more an all too obvious adolescent reaction against what is construed as the "rest of the world" That's a good thing if you can pull it off. Stumbling at the first hurdle there Ted. You're not the first to see it like this and you won't be the last. Doesn't pan out in the long run though. You will grow out of that. Trust me.So you're better off than the wage slaves who think it's just peachy then? Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

Like many travelers before you.Making up one's mind is the beginning of wisdom. Agreed. Agreed again.

Good advice in principle. In practise no man is an island. Life is not always about abstraction. Sometimes, but pick the right time.
Mmmmmmm. M'kay. You've lost me there and I'm dyslexic. Must be thick then. I knew the whole dyslexia tag was just to make me feel better... BTW You do know what a black hole is?

I agree on a little of what you said Wibbs, but is bliss a state all too ignorant to happiness? If you're 25 and suffering depression like some, and you're family are working class, it's not viable to sit exams to prove your existence worth it. My son had 5 major cancers, 1 called leukemia and made it through.
I'm middle class, yes, if you'll treat my post with some consideration.
I lost my husband to spleen cancer and I had no hope left, but by being ignorant to others beliefs, you may upset them intentionally or unlikely but maybe unintentionally.
If you laugh at dyslexia, my son got an A 1 in maths hounours, for his leaving cert, and decided a girl in Germany was too good to study without. And he's now a successful mechanic and works for mercedes.
So ignorance is bliss, but I lived my life having tea/coffe with my own ignorance to working stress.
But dyslexics can't argue their point as good as you Wibbs, so fair play, you made that young man look stupid.

nicolo

Check out the Podcasts on here just right click the links and save as...
http://www.stevepavlina.com/audio/

I know it sounds like a stupid self help crap thing but the guy makes alot of sense and the more you listen the more he gives good ideas on how to get your life out of a rut.
good luck!

Wibbs

ballsofire23 wrote:

I agree on a little of what you said Wibbs, but is bliss a state all too ignorant to happiness?

Obviously not ballsofire. Sometimes you can over think things. Sometimes the obvious simple answer is just that. Obvious and simple.

If you're 25 and suffering depression like some, and you're family are working class, it's not viable to sit exams to prove your existence worth it.

If you're suffering depression you can get help. This forum is full of those who did and came out the other side better people. In any case exams are not the be all and end all of judging one's worth. In fact all they can do is tell your worth in the subject of the exam. Too many people with very high exam results fail to translate that into any sort of success or happiness.

My son had 5 major cancers, 1 called leukemia and made it through.

Which is an incredibly brave and hard thing to have to see your son go through. You and he made it through. Rightfully proud you should be.

If you laugh at dyslexia,

Eh I'm dyslexic.

my son got an A 1 in maths hounours, for his leaving cert,

Mathematical ability apparently a common trait in dyslexics. Sadly I didn't get that one.

and decided a girl in Germany was too good to study without. And he's now a successful mechanic and works for mercedes.

And given what you've gone through is a result to be justifiably proud. The OP should read your post. It may help.

So ignorance is bliss, but I lived my life having tea/coffe with my own ignorance to working stress.

I never said that. I was making the point that that poster regarded others as somehow lessor because they're not as "abstract" as him.

But dyslexics can't argue their point as good as you Wibbs, so fair play, you made that young man look stupid.

Ehhhhh. Dyslexic here. Your statement itself is saying that dyslexics can't argue their point, which is limiting them. In any event stupid is like beauty, in the eye of the beholder.

Marksie

Minesajackdaniels wrote:

OP: buy a box of tampax and you too can have a life like marksutton's...

Damn hadn't thought of that... do you get coupons in the back for such activities???:p Or are you calling me names

Actually i am going to get a bit literary on your ass, with something written 2000 years ago. It is good and relevant advice, the ideal to change has got to come from your own mindset.

"there will be a great raise in spirits if one can change the way they think, so that instead of having in the heads the idea of "what is going to happen to me?" they may think "what action am i going to take?"" Xenophon

Wibbs

marksuttonie wrote:

"there will be a great raise in spirits if one can change the way they think, so that instead of having in the heads the idea of "what is going to happen to me?" they may think "what action am i going to take?"" Xenophon

If you're not suffering from debilitating depression and even if you are that hit's the nail on the head.

LegacyUser

seems i've stirred up a hornet's nest here, and first off, appologies, it was a bit of a

****ty day when i posted first, and i needed to rant, but to address some of the

issues brought up:

i have traveled a bit of the world - spent 6 months working in an orphange in Romania

(helping repair it), spent a year and a half in SE Asia doing volunteer work,

trekking and diving,
been in the army for a year and a half (national service),
i'm currently living in another country (ireland, i'm French - i've also lived in the US for 15 years),
i like to think of myself as a decent photographer,
i write short stories, (and have even had a couple published),
went to university (and what a drug, booze and floozy-filled three years that

was!) <i really love that word: floozy>
i don't really have a lot of friends, but the ones i do have are very close,
jesus? no thanks, buddah? muhammed? nope.
i've learned another language (english, ha!)
i try to be nice and fair and honest to people,

most of the time, i'm fine, and and can deal with all the ****ty stuff, but occasionally
i just need to re-ignite the spark, and find my next mission. sorry.

ballsofire23

Wibbs wrote:

Obviously not ballsofire. Sometimes you can over think things. Sometimes the obvious simple answer is just that. Obvious and simple. If you're suffering depression you can get help. This forum is full of those who did and came out the other side better people. In any case exams are not the be all and end all of judging one's worth. In fact all they can do is tell your worth in the subject of the exam. Too many people with very high exam results fail to translate that into any sort of success or happiness. Which is an incredibly brave and hard thing to have to see your son go through. You and he made it through. Rightfully proud you should be.
Eh I'm dyslexic. Mathematical ability apparently a common trait in dyslexics. Sadly I didn't get that one. And given what you've gone through is a result to be justifiably proud. The OP should read your post. It may help.
I never said that. I was making the point that that poster regarded others as somehow lessor because they're not as "abstract" as him.
Ehhhhh. Dyslexic here. Your statement itself is saying that dyslexics can't argue their point, which is limiting them. In any event stupid is like beauty, in the eye of the beholder.

No,I became aware of you condescing attitude to people who feel low about themselves and over inflation is called "never sell yourself lower that they want to hear".
I found your post offensive. Look can you accept you were deliberately offensive? And if you say unitentionally, I would call you a liar. So go to reflect on you're own life, and check are you suffering superiority complex disorder.And there is stigma attached to that, yes. So hence I can understand your post about labels being stigmatic from my perceived experience of you. And you attack me for defending the insulted postee. And to me that says you like being right.
So correct me if I'm wrong, you were polite to the poster? And you left a creditable comment about my son, so I have respect for you, yes. Thankyou.:)
A little support from anonymous and non anonymous friends in life, is a large support; and I have respect for you Wibbs, but please be nice to others self beliefts.
Children play and have imaginary friends perhaps, and believe in their stories of play and fun, so to mock a child like mind is called being ignorant to others on a perceived different level of thought or maturity as you mentioned about his opinion changing as he got older.
Cancer is a disease I would never wish on anybody, and your sympathy is sincere I would hope. Because too many people, put on a face of sympathy and say "i'm sorry" without any real care to their word. So, if I'm a fool, I'm living a lie and from what you are saying, that poser is living a total shambles based on their self importance. And how do you know, that you're post will make them feel suicidal? That is possible, this is a personal issues forum and not for mocking replies of self delusion, maybe, but their self beliefs intended to help another individual they can relate to from what they believe they can.
So never judge replies in a sensitive area of this website, it's not a place. Online replies are 1 to themself. So mocking is ok in a jokes/puzzles/comics section; but personal issues NO NO NO it's overdose of pill to somepeople to hear your sort of reply. I'm sorry sir/ I was shocked by your attack on that poster. And being honest he was deluded maybe. But belived in his self worth no matter how ridiculous it sounds, that's called keeping a person confident and loving of themself and thats what some people lack so don't mock vulnerable deluded even.

ballsofire23

Wibbs wrote:

If you're not suffering from debilitating depression and even if you are that hit's the nail on the head.

Depression is an illness, of all areas of you belief. Belief in your appearance as ok, belief in your family as worth living for, etc. Medication is 35 to 65 percent of the depression solution.
Alcohol, drug use, location of residence, friends, family, personal status, one's personality, one's looks, and A LOT of other people opinion are factors in a depressive episode. So, depression is inevitable but treating the bad episodes I would focus mostly on, but the minor ones make life debiliating and they include from my experience, the factors I've mentioned. So the person must be in a low state of mind, to think and reflect what are the reasons; and make the necessary changes.
I can't comment further I hope the individual in question gets help as required and best of luck to the person, as It's a horrible emotionless battle and I understand depression.

Kinetic^

boreds wrote:

Have you considered letting Jesus into your life?

Aye, but the constant stream of wine and bread would make meh tubbeh!!!

Life is what you make out of it, if you're expecting stuff to land in front of you on a platter then think again!!!

Nevyn

eems i've stirred up a hornet's nest here, and first off, appologies

No need for you to say you are sorry.
It is the rest of those that have hijacked this thread and dragged it of topic that have need to be sorry.

Get your own thread for your own spat you lot or suffer a removal of your posting privlages.

Thaedydal

Wibbs

prof. bumphead wrote:

seems i've stirred up a hornet's nest here, and first off, appologies, it was a bit of a

****ty day when i posted first, and i needed to rant, but to address some of the

No apologies needed. Indeed I should be apologising for parts were I went off your original issue. Oh yea there was a touch of the rant in me at times.:D

i

ssues brought up:

i have traveled a bit of the world - spent 6 months working in an orphange in Romania ..../....i've learned another language (english, ha!)
i try to be nice and fair and honest to people,

That's a pretty amazing list of things there. More than many. Fair play and no mistake. I reckon you have made your life and those in it far better by your actions.

most of the time, i'm fine, and and can deal with all the ****ty stuff, but occasionally
i just need to re-ignite the spark, and find my next mission. sorry.

From what you list there, I'm thinking of looking to ignite my own spark. I suspect I may need a gallon of petrol and a match compared to you.

When you said "is this all there is" I stupidly jumped to the conclusion that you hadn't tried much. How wrong was I. Except for the momentary lack of direction you're doing alright. There's a bunch of kids in romania and SE asia that are well glad of your input. It's putting me to shame anyway.

Good luck with your new spark wherever you may find it.

Thaedydal wrote:

No need for you to say you are sorry.

Exactly

It is the rest of those that have hijacked this thread and dragged it of topic that have need to be sorry.

Very true. For what it's worth apologies from me.

nodger

Prof. Bumphead wrote:

There's more to it than this, right?

People will tend to gravitate towards a regular, mundane life. In reality, that's what most folks want and they'll work hard to achieve it. Think about it... although your life may not appear to be too extravagant, it's nice and stable. With a little extra effort or self-development on your part, you could probably raise your standard of living (or income), but what would that mean to you? An extra holiday with the missus... a nice new LCD TV... a new car maybe? From the sound of your original post, I don't think these things would provide you with any additional long-term happiness.

Personally, I don't believe that extensive travel or snorkeling are likely to improve your appreciation of life in the long term. Almost everyone I know has done 'the Australia thing' or 'the Thailand thing' at some stage, and they're no happier than I am. In fact, when they come back to Ireland they usually feel really depressed for quite a while. The lifestyle you have during extensive travel isn't really a realistic/sustainable one.

My own perspective on this leans towards "appreciate what you have, but don't compare yourself to those who are more/less fortunate than yourself". I think you might be surprised by how content you can feel with your situation, once you stop thinking "is this all there is?" and start thinking "this isn't half bad, is it?".

Sure, life does tend to be repetitive... that's basically because you don't have all that much to be worried about. To me, that's a pretty good situation to find yourself in.

Wibbs

^^^ Good advice

WindSock

mitkirski wrote:

That's called a quarter life crises. I never watch Tv and i never let cars crash my life either. I never failed my driving test to need to luas, You may have got rejected by a filling station type job like me but I don't hold grudges on so called crap jobs.

If my dad had a high paying job, aka invented idea based on elated ego of ones social status; I suppose I'd consider killing myself over him calling me a dunse.
And that's your mentality. And I'll consider you a success sir/man, if you consider the people you have classed in your post as worth living the rest without hindrance to sterotypes or bias.
Did you kill your cat for a thrill ever? That's morally wrong, but killed by a man of a high paying job, does that consider the cat wrong and him right to satisfy his high stimulation of cat murder? Just an example don't comment on the stupid example as I'll question you'r motive to do so.
And a failed driving test is why some walk not drive. You sound rich, middle class.
failed driving test, 2nd time I don't think so!
So I walk to walk, maybe.
You watch Tv, i know you're lying; im guessing .

Never judge a clown by their tricks if you don't laugh, question you're humour first, as not all clowns are funny as not all entertainees are dry or wet rags. So you decide how you take others, but don't force your opinion on others without considering the effects first.

You're agnostic yes, so Jesus is nobody to you so why do you care to mention him if you're agnostic!

Erm OK. My post was meant for OP, not annoying gnat. The Jesus thing was sort of meant as a bit of a joke. The concept of Jesus is not lost on me though, so he is not entirely nobody to me. Where do I even begin to force my opinion on anyone, I don't know. I only state them.
All I meant by my comment was that many many people(including middle class me and *probably most users of boards) unfortunatley distract ourselves by the entertainment and releases that telly and internet provide us with, that we are forgetting the simple pleasures like 'smelling the roses'
We are bogging ourselves down with information, I like to call it truth seeking, but much useless information gets filtered through as well (ie Halle Berrys bra size)
It's no wonder when one becomes introspective they often think 'What the F... is it all for'?

*=I'll try not to make too many assumptions and generalisations.

As for the whole travelling thing, not much point if you don't challenge yourself anyway., you'll probably find yourself stuck in the same sort of ruts.

#I've beeen to paradise, but I've never been to meeeeeeeeeeee(ath)#

Marksie

prof. bumphead wrote:

seems i've stirred up a hornet's nest here, and first off, appologies, it was a bit of a

****ty day when i posted first, and i needed to rant, but to address some of the

issues brought up:

i have traveled a bit of the world - spent 6 months working in an orphange in Romania

(helping repair it), spent a year and a half in SE Asia doing volunteer work,

trekking and diving,
been in the army for a year and a half (national service),
i'm currently living in another country (ireland, i'm French - i've also lived in the US for 15 years),
i like to think of myself as a decent photographer,
i write short stories, (and have even had a couple published),
went to university (and what a drug, booze and floozy-filled three years that

was!) <i really love that word: floozy>
i don't really have a lot of friends, but the ones i do have are very close,
jesus? no thanks, buddah? muhammed? nope.
i've learned another language (english, ha!)
i try to be nice and fair and honest to people,

most of the time, i'm fine, and and can deal with all the ****ty stuff, but occasionally
i just need to re-ignite the spark, and find my next mission. sorry.

LOL, well there is some really great, worthwhile stuff there. Perhaps your first post was simply as you said a complete rant at a sh*tty day. We all have em.

You might want to try his though http://totl.net/Cult/

Whatever else, I hope you find your next mission

best of luck

Wibbs

marksuttonie wrote:

LOL, well there is some really great, worthwhile stuff there. Perhaps your first post was simply as you said a complete rant at a sh*tty day. We all have em.

You might want to try his though http://totl.net/Cult/

Whatever else, I hope you find your next mission

best of luck

Seconded. You have nothing to be freaked about and a lot to be proud of. I repeat the good luck, though trust me you hardly need it. When you're over this dry patch can you advise me and the rest of us? ya over acheiving French yahoo ya.:D I dunno, these foriegn types comin' here with there well balanced lives. there should b a law against it.... and women dig their accents. I mean how can ordinary gob****es compete....:D

Seriously though, you've little to worry about and the fact that you are worrying shows your humanity. Kudos to you.

Peter Collins

dellas1979 wrote:

Jees - what a terrible life you have ........

Those poor people around the world must be having a great time in comparison to you.

My advice? Wake up and smell the coffee. If you are unhappy find out why and do something about it.

I think you're in a worse frame of a mind than the first bloke....you're one angry barrel of monkey nuts