thread for feedback re iPoker network ('new' PPP/VC etc)

El Stuntman

there seems to be lots of threads floating about with various bits and pieces on them about the Tribeca sites that have now migrated to iPoker. Thought I would try and tidy them up a bit. Mods, please merge this thread if you feel necessary.

given that I was sick at the weekend, I spent a lot of time staying in bed and playing poker (I wasn't that sick!) on VC's 'new' site. Whoo-hoo, I made all of $200, big deal. I am teh pokah gimp

here's my feedback on iPoker with maybe 1500 cash game hands (1/2 only) under my belt so far, would be interested to see what other people have to say (might also be useful for the PPP people who post here):

Pros:
1. the software is pretty quick, dealing I'd say an average of 90/100 hands p/h on a 6-max table. A good add-on is the time clock which winds down visually as you need to make a decision.
2. the playing population is fairly fishy (at least on a par with the old Tribeca) with lots of Scandos/Frogs/Krauts/Paddies (see, I can be rude to all races) etc who aren't much good (well they're as good as me anyway )
3. the peak traffic hours actually suit me much better as they relate to 'European peak' as opposed to 'US peak'. Traffic seems to quiet down after about 1am. Suits me fine.
4. PT and GameTime friendly.
5. Cashier function is pretty good

Cons:
1.the table selection screen is a joke i.e. if you click on a table that the lobby claims has 4 people seated on a 6 seater table, you usually find that it is actually full. They badly need to fix this bug.
2. the interface is overly 'busy' with stupidly large avatars and hard on the eyes. The Tribeca interface was much cleaner.
3. the mini-table function is rubbish
4. as mentioned by other people, no showdown with all-ins. You have to go to PT to see what the other guy had (assuming you win).
5. bonuses are crap at only about 20% RB
6. the unearned portion of VC bonuses did not carry over
7. the RNG is highly vindictive! I almost tempted to say suspect but will be interested to hear what other people have to say
8. the chat box is useless and hence Tribeca players will find this a much less social experience (some won't care obviously)
9. support is non-existant

No idea what MTTs/STTs are like as I am avoiding these for now.

Imposter

You forgot:
- The VC colours are **** - the fold/call/raise buttons look to much like the players name box.
- You cannot fit 4 normal tables on a 1600*1200 monitor without overlap. The old tribeca used to overlap a little - this overlaps quite a lot.

I'm not even sure if the bonuses amount to 20%. I'm not spending time finding out either seeing as there are far better deals to be got.

Lafortezza

Is PT easy to set up and configure?

eoghan104

El Stuntman wrote:

6. the unearned portion of VC bonuses did not carry over

Will this be the same for GJP?

RoundTower

can this be modded?

El Stuntman

lafortezza wrote:

Is PT easy to set up and configure?

yes, very (I'm talking HE here, don't know about you Yamaha wierdos)

HiCloy

I gave it a go over the weekend too - didn't play cash as PAHUD doesn't work, so an Omaha MTT was the call.

Had 100 runners, 10 minutes blinds and a pretty decent structure for a $5 rebuy. After 2 hours got to final table with c25 BB average stack. Another hour it was 3 handed and that is where I departed, with c20 BB stacks (so changing to 30BB for the 2 remaining when heads up). Decent enough all in all. Terrible standard as expected from a $5 omaha MTT :rolleyes:

Poker tracker can be set up easily for holdem in a similar way to how it was done for Tribeca.

CoD

Just a quick point on the graphics
"2. the interface is overly 'busy' with stupidly large avatars and hard on the eyes. The Tribeca interface was much cleaner. "

You can turn the avatars off, which i like.

But again the buttons are ok, but i really prefer the "x2", "x4" "+" "-" tribeca buttons, than the slider. I now type in all my numbers and hit enter, where before everything was mouse before

shoutman

The FT interface is really nice, pot button is great for cash games and a last hand button shows all known cards of opponents at showdown which is excellent too and saves a lot of hassle.

phantom_lord

I was just donking around today on ub, and I have to say that's the best betting system I've come across yet. bet pot/all in button, and a slider that works real goot not like on other sites.

FastMachine

I've been messing about on the vc play money tables while waiting for ucpoker and ppp to make the switch.

First issue I noticed is what is with the tiny pocket cards. They are less than half the size of Party Pokers' cards and probably a third the size of the old Tribeca network. It makes no sense to have them this small, especially when it is now possible to play 8 tables simultaneously. I agree that the interface looks too cluttered but can see myself getting used to it as long as they increase the size of the pocket cards.


As usual the slider is a total pain in the hole to use for quick, accurate bets. As with Party Poker it is basically redundant (imo) as it takes longer to get the correct position than just typing the bet. The old Tribeca interface had a great betting system. The 2x, 4x, etc.... buttons combined with the + and - buttons made for very efficient betting and meant that you didn't have to resort to the keyboard nearly as often.

Ditch the slider, stick in some betting buttons and fix the card sizes.

ianmc38

FastMachine wrote:

I've been messing about on the vc play money tables while waiting for ucpoker and ppp to make the switch.

First issue I noticed is what is with the tiny pocket cards. They are less than half the size of Party Pokers' cards and probably a third the size of the old Tribeca network. It makes no sense to have them this small, especially when it is now possible to play 8 tables simultaneously. I agree that the interface looks too cluttered but can see myself getting used to it as long as they increase the size of the pocket cards.


As usual the slider is a total pain in the hole to use for quick, accurate bets. As with Party Poker it is basically redundant (imo) as it takes longer to get the correct position than just typing the bet. The old Tribeca interface had a great betting system. The 2x, 4x, etc.... buttons combined with the + and - buttons made for very efficient betting and meant that you didn't have to resort to the keyboard nearly as on often.

Ditch the slider, stick in some betting buttons and fix the card sizes.

Why do you never raise preflop?

phantom_lord

I'm curious about that too.

ArmaniJeanss

I downloaded VC in work this morning just to see what I'm missing by not being able to run it at home (Windows 98 guy !!).

Wasn't thrilled with my balance but I know I was hammered drunk the last time I played a few hours before the changeover.

So did the obvious thing and checked my bet history to see what games I played etc.

And I can't spot it, the bet history is blank. So am I right in saying that they didn't bring over 'old' details of games played on Tribeca over to the Playtech accounts ?.

breadmonkey

The online support is nothing short of a total fcuking disgrace. I don;t care if they have a lot of new arrivals to deal with, they knew it was happening and should have put measures in place to cope.

Here's a conversation I had with a host the other day. Read it, it's not very long. The whole converstaion took over 1hr 30mins! (not to mention the fact that it was about 20 mins before a host even came online). I only inserted the gaps that I could remember but rest assured it was a tedious tedious process.

hi welcome to our poker room, how can we help? breadmonkey: hi, I have a problem regarding my account balance
HostStephenE: Hi welcome to the poker room how can I help you ?
HostStephenE: What seems to be the problem. breadmonkey: I experienced some technical problems with the software yesterdy. The tables kept freezing and play didn't continue
breadmonkey: this happened several times
breadmonkey: I spoke with a host and he told me that you were working on it
breadmonkey: last night, while in the middle of a game, I got the message "this table is no longer available" and was booted from the table.
breadmonkey: I had ~$50 at the table and the money was not returnded to my account
breadmonkey: returned
HostStephenE: Are you still experiencing technical difficulties ?
breadmonkey: I don't know, I haven't played since breadmonkey: I'm more concerned about the money to be honest
HostStephenE: One moment please while I look into this. breadmonkey: ok thanks
HostStephenE: CAN YOU PLEASE COMFIRM YOUR NAME PLEASE
HostStephenE: Whoops soory forgot to drop caps lock wasn't shouting.
breadmonkey: ********
HostStephenE: Ok thanks
HostStephenE: Just talking with technical support.

(20 minutes gap or so)
Now a great thing happens. Stephen seems to have fcuked off and I have to start from scratch with this idiot. Literally, she just takes over out of nowhere in the chatbox.

breadmonkey: lalalalalala
HostSuzanne: Hello
breadmonkey: hi breadmonkey: hi
breadmonkey: !
HostSuzanne: Hi
breadmonkey: do you actually have anything to say? HostSuzanne: You contacted me how can I help? breadmonkey: no I didnt I had this window open talking to StephenE
breadmonkey: can I please be put back on to him HostSuzanne: I will close the chat ping back please breadmonkey: what
breadmonkey: this is ridiculous

(10-15 minutes gap)
And now, look, here comes BEN!!!!!

breadmonkey: hello?
breadmonkey: anyone?
HostBen: hi
breadmonkey: who are you?
breadmonkey: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

(5 min gap)

breadmonkey: Ben are you there?
HostBen: i am
HostBen: whats up?
breadmonkey: I had a problm and was talking to StephenE breadmonkey: then Suzanne came on from no reason breadmonkey: then you came on
breadmonkey: still no sign of Stephen or my problem being resolved
breadmonkey: why are you taking so long to respond? breadmonkey: I have been on for about half an hour now and am no closer to sorting this out
breadmonkey: hello?
breadmonkey: hello?
breadmonkey: Is this a joke?

can you believe that sh!t??

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

lol......i cannot wait to contact support

FastMachine

ianmc38 wrote:

Why do you never raise preflop?

Never get anything worth raising with.

Are either of you borngambler or -Ryder- by any chance?

Fatboydim

Armani if you want your hand history it will be on your computer.

in XP it goes C:\Documents and Settings \ Your computer log on name \ Application Data \ your poker name

alternatively just do a search for the file CurrentHandHistory and it will be found.

metafora

hi,
could anyone help in recording hh from i poker into pt as they dont seem to be importing for me. i am using location as fatboy dim described above?

BigDragon

1. The cards are sh1te and , quite literally, the cards are sh1te.:mad:
2. I cant get rid of Len Collin:(
3. I cant resize the dealers boobs.:eek:
4. The tables dont pop up when its your turn to act. :mad:

Mr. Flibble

metafora wrote:

hi,
could anyone help in recording hh from i poker into pt as they dont seem to be importing for me. i am using location as fatboy dim described above?

I would check you are using the correct import option (ie. not Tribeca). And make sure you don't have hands filtered out in settings.

Rnger

it dosent say what your best hand is in the corner anymore!!!!!!!

how the fook am i gunna play omaha hilo now

califano

If you click settings and tick 'show best hand' you should be ok.

Have to say the sit & go section sucks. It seems 7minute blinds is the standard for stt's there and nothing longer than 7 minutes?. Really dissapointed with that like.

Fatboydim

Big Dragon - I promise to stop hanging around outside your house. The Guards have told me to stop doing it. I'm trying so hard. But you're just so hunky.

roryc

unbelievably bad software, cant believe it went from being so good to so bad. think ill have to switch over to another network, cannot see myself getting used to the bad graphics and tiny cards

really really bad....

ianmc38

FastMachine wrote:

Never get anything worth raising with.

Are either of you borngambler or -Ryder- by any chance?

Not me. I think HalfBaked is borngambler. Not sure of his sn though.

metafora

Have to agree with most. Without going into the fine detail i think new site sucks..

breadmonkey

Is it just me or does the auto login not work at all? What happens to me is that it seems to copy my password abnout 3 or 4 times so instead of abcd, it inputs abcdabcdabcdabcd or something? Anyone?

GrangeUtd

I have to say one of the biggest cons for me is that I cant logon at all!!!
I really feel this could effect my profits in the long run.

Imposter

breadmonkey wrote:

Is it just me or does the auto login not work at all? What happens to me is that it seems to copy my password abnout 3 or 4 times so instead of abcd, it inputs abcdabcdabcdabcd or something? Anyone?

This happened the first few times with me too - seems to have sorted itself now.

eoghan104

Im getting an error message on PPP when i try to download the new software. Anyone else get this? It says "the instruction at 0x6c373eba referenced memory at 0xfffffff4. the memeory could not be read"

Anyone know what this means???

El Stuntman

eoghan104 wrote:

Im getting an error message on PPP when i try to download the new software. Anyone else get this? It says "the instruction at 0x6c373eba referenced memory at 0xfffffff4. the memeory could not be read"

Anyone know what this means???

it means you're rigged

dingle

I had a lot of issues installing as well. Initially I was getting a blue screen, then I was getting some error messages when the install began. Eventually I uninstalled all my Tribeca clients, downloaded the package from PPP and it installed ok.

Now if only I could log on :rolleyes:

jhegarty

rounders123 wrote:

If you click settings and tick 'show best hand' you should be ok.

Have to say the sit & go section sucks. It seems 7minute blinds is the standard for stt's there and nothing longer than 7 minutes?. Really dissapointed with that like.

Doesn't work on Omaha....

califano

wrote:

It seems 7minute blinds is the standard for stt's there and nothing longer than 7 minutes?. Really dissapointed with that like.

Do ppp or gjp have anything to say about the Ipoker stt situation?.
On tribeca you had 8min, 10 min, and 12min blind levels on stt's but here there is only turbo 4min and 8min blind levels on Ipoker?.
Appreciate the work and input youve put in on Ipoker and the whole changeover but i imagine you have more influence on Ipoker than you had on Tribeca?. So could you enquire about improvements made in the stt field please?.

breadmonkey

rounders123 wrote:

Do ppp or gjp have anything to say about the Ipoker stt situation?.
On tribeca you had 8min, 10 min, and 12min blind levels on stt's but here there is only turbo 4min and 8min blind levels on Ipoker?.
Appreciate the work and input youve put in on Ipoker and the whole changeover but i imagine you have more influence on Ipoker than you had on Tribeca?. So could you enquire about improvements made in the stt field please?.

I haven't played a lot of them but the structure seems fine to me. What exactly do you not like? Yes the blinds go up faster but they start at 5/10, giving you 100BBs.

30something

I did the auto update thingy and at the end of the install it deleted the old client - my desk top shortcut went aswell - so I delved into the c drive and found the new client. I dragged this to my desktop, double clicked it and the next thing I had 20 new icons on my desktop

Not a good start.

Found the logging on okay and figured out quick enoughit was necessary to transfer my "spotsbook" account (old PPP poker account money) to my "new" poker account.

Also there is cash history from the tribecca tourneys / cash games.

The whole cashier bit is very slow though.

Got a free token to play some IO STT satellite but no-one was registered

Played a 50c stt to get a feel for the new client and was on the right end of a sick runner runner bad beat to win $2

Need more time to see whats what but am mainly playing Stars to clear a bonus.

califano

breadmonkey wrote:

I haven't played a lot of them but the structure seems fine to me. What exactly do you not like? Yes the blinds go up faster but they start at 5/10, giving you 100BBs.

You sure?. Just that i didnt actually play one but i joined the table and clicked into the structure of it and 20/40 or something very similar appeared to the the first level. Certainly not 5/10 if i remember correctly. You could be right but could others confirm?

DeadParrot

5/10 is correct

califano

Then i retract my above statements. I wasnt wrong of course just inaccurate.
Lead on Mc Duff.

Washout

I completely hate the interface.

The table selection window doesnt refresh quickly enough. Tables are listing tables as having 4/6 players but when i open them they are full.

The mini view is bad. you can barely make out your own cards. I have to squint to see my hole card.

the slider is terrible also.

El Stuntman

rounders123 wrote:

Lead on Mc Duff.

the first ever Shakespearean reference in this forum (I am willing to bet)

well done Rounders!

FastMachine

Can someone in ppp please fix the grey on grey colour scheme for stack sizes. The stack sizes don't stand out nearly as much as they should. Even more so when the interface is much busier than the other sites. Look at every other poker site out there if you want to know what I mean. Maybe switch the paddypowerpoints (white on dark grey) tab with the stack sizes one. I literally got a headache from playing this morning due to having to work to see stack sizes.

gilmour

heh my desktop shortcut dissappeared too for some bizarre reason. The only real problem i have with the new software is the slowness of the lobby refreshing, it really is pretty bad.

I put myself down on the waiting list for a game last night and i ended up in a Turbo cash game, holy **** was it juicy :eek: (but very tough to actually play in due to the speed of things)

Fatboydim

Anyone know wtf you click to get a rebuy in a rebuy mtt? I've tried all the obvious stuff

Tinytony

My desktop icon as disappeared too, (not that i'm too concerned about accessing the site again). And when you go to the Programs menu > PAddy Power, it only has the uninstall option (which I think may come in quiet handy!!)

green123

Fatboydim wrote:

Anyone know wtf you click to get a rebuy in a rebuy mtt? I've tried all the obvious stuff

its not possible until you lose ALL your chips
bring back tribeca

Fatboydim

El Stuntman wrote:

the first ever Shakespearean reference in this forum (I am willing to bet)

well done Rounders!

I'm sure we've had "Why DeVore he doth bestride the narrow world like a colossus" before.

Iago

El Stuntman wrote:

the first ever Shakespearean reference in this forum (I am willing to bet)

well done Rounders!

<<<<<<<<<<<<AHEM!!

phantom_lord

El Stuntman wrote:

(I am willing to bet)

too late! dammit!

Kamaldihnio

Is is just me or is the software alot better then tribeca. I have only played one night of it but already I am noticing the differences. Quicker hands being played, more players online and bigger tournaments.

You cant rebuy till you lose all your chips, Good.

1 thing, how the hell can someone play 6 or 8 tables, whatever max tables they said you could.

I am struggling playing 2. The time you get to make your action must be half the time of tribeca. Am i missing something? I like this anyway cause I play two tables and never more but please in the name of God tell me how can someone play 8 tables at that speed.

Anyway I thought tribeca was s**t so I welcome the change. I should have just left tribeca ages ago. It always helps when you have a good debut with the software, I'm sure if I lost my stones Id be cursing it.

Maybe we could have more avatars, everyone looks the same. I can live with that I suppose.

Last but not least is it possible that there are less stupid bad beats with this software? Bad play gets rewarded less, obviously way too early to tell but I was getting this impression. Surely Tribeca was a bit over the top, dont you think?

Anyway, so far so good for me.

Any feedback appreciated.

p.s just voicing my opinions.