An Garda getting BMWs

unkel

The Gardaí have purchased 15 BMWs, 318s, 525is and 530ds

Heard it through the grapevine...

galwaytt

we can ignore the 318's then..............:D

$Leon$

They're sitting in a yard in Offaly. Don't know the exact models but definitely new beemers

smcgiff

Excellent - I love a challenge!

only joking!

cold_filter

well a 1.6 mondeo isnt gonna catch some of the cars thieves steal these days.

If you ever see roadwars or similar on sky they have the right idea, high performance cars to catch criminals in high performance cars

prospect

cold_filter wrote:

well a 1.6 mondeo isnt gonna catch some of the cars thieves steal these days.

If you ever see roadwars or similar on sky they have the right idea, high performance cars to catch criminals in high performance cars

A 318 isn't going to be a massive improvement either.

Ice_Box

The cops in Italy have a lamborghini. The dutch drive 911's.

cold_filter

prospect wrote:

A 318 isn't going to be a massive improvement either.

If i seen a mondeo or a bmw pursuing me i think id give up sooner with the bmw

Alun

Ice_Box wrote:

The dutch drive 911's.

They got rid of those a few years back, and replaced them all with Volvo T5's as they were too expensive to maintain. They did look funny though as they were targa's, and the police drove them with the targa roof off wearing white leather coats and crash helmets! See here for a photo.

Rowley Birkin QC

I was watching a news report on sky lately, yer man was reporting from outside the HQ of the London Met, there was rows and rows of new gun metal grey type colour 5 series with police livery, really looked the business.

Hopefully these will be put in proper service and not used to escort Mary MacAleese, the commish and the like.

woodyg

Would it not have made more sense to purchase say something like an octavia rs and get a fleet of them for the same price as the slower speed BMW's!

delly

I can see some scumbags seeing this as challenge to see who can ram a Garda Beemer.

r3nu4l

Alun wrote:

See here for a photo.

A 911 rarely looks good but never has one looked worse that in those photos

Glad to see that the Gardaí are moving up the field a bit. London Metropolitan police use a lot of BMWs.

drdre

wow thats really good but they already have powerful cars like the WRX and EVO.As mentioned before on boards

Car Mad

drdre wrote:

wow thats really good but they already have powerful cars like the WRX and EVO.As mentioned before on boards

didnt they have to get rid of them? too many trips to the petrol station now they know why the genuine car modders dont speed:D Beemers eh i dont think thats a good idea seen as how the gards like driving within a inch of peoples bumpers:rolleyes: Wel soon see how good they are;)

Turner

cold_filter wrote:

well a 1.6 mondeo isnt gonna catch some of the cars thieves steal these days.

If you ever see roadwars or similar on sky they have the right idea, high performance cars to catch criminals in high performance cars

All Mondeos attached to Divisional HQ's are 2.0L

Nearly all of the Traffic Corps Mondeos are 2.5L V6.

People who normally try to outrun either usually end up crashing, injuring themselves or others.

Gardai who drive these size cars have completed either a 2 week or 4 week advanced driving course.

Car Mad

Chief--- wrote:

All Mondeos attached to Divisional HQ's are 2.0L

Nearly all of the Traffic Corps Mondeos are 2.5L V6.

People who normally try to outrun either usually end up crashing, injuring themselves or others.

Gardai who drive these size cars have completed either a 2 week or 4 week advanced driving course.

ya how to drive like a clown for dummies:D i maintain that members of the gardi are the worst drivers on irish roads seriously has anyone been in a car with a member of an garda its a scary experience.i wonder how much it will cost to fix clutches and gear boxes in them beemers:p

Anan1

cold_filter wrote:

If i seen a mondeo or a bmw pursuing me i think id give up sooner with the bmw

Silly you, the Mondeo is quite likely to be a V6.:)

johnjay

unkel wrote:

The Gardaí have purchased 15 BMWs, 318s, 525is and 530ds

Heard it through the grapevine...

Might these be state cars?

I seen an 07 7 series state car during the week with a garda escort, I'm not sure who was in it, probably Bertie...

Lex Luthor

and they need to be spending our tax euros on BMW's for what reason?

so who's pockets are being lined for this one?

Turner

Lex Luthor wrote:

and they need to be spending our tax euros on BMW's for what reason?

The safety of their members??

So that when your house is broken into and your 2.5L Family car gets stolen the gardai wont be left in the dust if they do engage in a pursuit.

prospect

Chief--- wrote:

The safety of their members??

??
All other modern cars are not safe?


I would imagine this fleet of BMWs is sponsored to some degree. I would imagine the purchase was put out to public tender and BMW came back with the best package.

Lex Luthor

Chief--- wrote:

The safety of their members??

So that when your house is broken into and your 2.5L Family car gets stolen the gardai wont be left in the dust if they do engage in a pursuit.

wont have that worry after 6pm tonight

Turner

Why whats happening after 6pm??

cold_filter

Chief--- wrote:

All Mondeos attached to Divisional HQ's are 2.0L

Nearly all of the Traffic Corps Mondeos are 2.5L V6.

People who normally try to outrun either usually end up crashing, injuring themselves or others.

Gardai who drive these size cars have completed either a 2 week or 4 week advanced driving course.

I will have to disagree with that, my friend who has since moved to oz o be come a cop regailed us with the story about a year ago of the time on the m1 they tried to stop an alfa it was 1 1.9tdi anyway they were left far behind, you can be the most skilful driver it wont make up for over 400cc less power

back to the point he was saying that most cars are standard 1.6 saloons with some being 1.8, though he did say some of the traffic cars do have the largest engines in the range

Turner

cold_filter wrote:

I will have to disagree with that, my friend who has since moved to oz o be come a cop regailed us with the story about a year ago of the time on the m1 they tried to stop an alfa it was 1 1.9tdi anyway they were left far behind, you can be the most skilful driver it wont make up for over 400cc less power

back to the point he was saying that most cars are standard 1.6 saloons with some being 1.8, though he did say some of the traffic cars do have the largest engines in the range

The Gardai have to drive with the safety of other road users in mind. People fleeing generally do not.

The gardai terminate many pursuits generally because they get too dangerous for other road users. Many Gardai wont drive at excessive speeds over 110mph. Whats the point in risking their lives for the sake of somebody who refuses to stop?

testicle

Lex Luthor wrote:

and they need to be spending our tax euros on BMW's for what reason?

Quite possibly on a lease. The Defence Forces has changed from buying Nissans and is now leasing them for 10 years.

Remember a lack of VAT and VRT also...

drdre

$Leon$ wrote:

They're sitting in a yard in Offaly. Don't know the exact models but definitely new beemers

How do you know.are you spying on the police

old boy

heard about a person who used to have a laugh with a scorpio 2.5d thro the old speed trap on the way into kildare from the dub side, used to be a female cop who liked to chase in an old mondeo,

Wishbone Ash

johnjay wrote:

I seen an 07 7 series state car during the week with a garda escort, I'm not sure who was in it, probably Bertie...

Bertie utilises an Merc S320. I think an tUachtarán has a 7 series.

testicle wrote:

Remember a lack of VAT and VRT also...

and annual motor tax.

Turner

Wishbone Ash wrote:

Bertie utilises an Merc S320. I think an tUachtarán has a 7 series.

and annual motor tax.

However they must display a disc even though they are exempt from paying the duty.. The driver is responsible, if you spot one missing or out of date report it to the Garda driving

Do-more

$Leon$ wrote:

They're sitting in a yard in Offaly.

Wilkers in Clara, per chance?

oleras

would be better off giving them proper resources, more practicle ones. was listening in on a car chase a few months back, some guy stole a fiesta, brought it out the dual carriageway twords shannon and gave 3 cars about 20 mins of the runaround before he lost control and crashed into a wall. Oh, about 10 mins into the chase they were told by henry street they got the ok to use the stinger, guess what, between 3 cars not one stinger, wouldent it have been nice if they had crashed into another car instead of a wall all down to lack of a couple of hundred euro as opposed to €50k a car. get the basics right first guys, then go for the flash cars !

dgosul

Are u allowed to have a scanner eavesdropping on the cops????????

oleras

dgosul wrote:

Are u allowed to have a scanner eavesdropping on the cops????????

someone has to police the police....:D

setanta

Saw one of those beemers yesterday morning on the N11 at Kilmacanogue. Slate grey 3 series unmarked with blue strobes in grill and through windscreen and with red strobing "fog" lights at rear.

A fine lookin' ban garda drivin the arse out of it - pulled over some poor muppet in a modded starlet; probably for driving on the hard shoulder as the traffic was heavy.

No distinguishing features when looking at it from the outside ie it had alloys so no missing hub caps with this one.

I problem I think she had when she drove off through the heavy traffic, with lights and siren, was that nobody was getting out of her way! - the lights are hard to see and her siren was not loud enough - either that or people were treating her like they always treat beemer drivers; by not moving over.

Couldn't get a pic unfortunately as the ban garda refused to pose.

delly

http://cgi.ebay.ie/CODE-3-1-43-BMW-320-Garda-Siochana-REPUBLIC-OF-IRELAND_W0QQitemZ190087187872QQihZ009QQcategoryZ7311QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

LOL ^^

Biro

Chief--- wrote:

The safety of their members??

So that when your house is broken into and your 2.5L Family car gets stolen the gardai wont be left in the dust if they do engage in a pursuit.

If I saw them heading after it in a 318 it'd be time to ring the insurance company me thinks!!

ninty9er

Wishbone Ash wrote:

Bertie utilises an Merc S320. I think an tUachtarán has a 7 series.

AFAIK she has an S-Class too, recieved in the same order as the on at Dept. of the Taoiseach.

7 Series is most likely an ambassador or some such.....the Ministerial fleet is made up of Lexus, Volvo and Merc

johnjay

delly wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.ie/CODE-3-1-43-BMW-320-Garda-Siochana-REPUBLIC-OF-IRELAND_W0QQitemZ190087187872QQihZ009QQcategoryZ7311QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

LOL ^^

A left hand drive BMW estate Garda car??

VERY Realistic! I should buy one!

Wishbone Ash

setanta wrote:

No distinguishing features when looking at it from the outside ie it had alloys so no missing hub caps with this one

Did it have the usual UHF and VHF antennae?

TheNog

Auto Conversions in Clara, Co. Offaly won the contract in November or December to mark and install equipment in new Garda cars. The contract is worth is over €1.1 million. Don't know if this is for new BMWs or what. Maybe someone living down there could confirm?

delly

Just a quick update on this, my brother rang me to say that he was passed by a silver 5 series touring on the M1 heading North. It was going hell for leather and had the embedded rear lights flashing as it past. He also said that it looked like there was no obvious aerials on the roof, but again it was going so fast he couldn't be sure.

Traumadoc

Do Garda cars have to pay VRT?

When they are then sold on to the public is VRT paid?


It just seems to me they could make money by driving a car for a year then sell on to the public. ( its often done in Australia)

http://www.auctions.sa.gov.au/

Anan1

Traumadoc wrote:

Do Garda cars have to pay VRT?

When they are then sold on to the public is VRT paid?


It just seems to me they could make money by driving a car for a year then sell on to the public. ( its often done in Australia)

http://www.auctions.sa.gov.au/

Garda vehicles are VRT exempt.

10-10-20

So I assume Auto Conversions are firstly removing the indicator lights from the said Beemers? There's no need for them anyhow!

timmywex

TheNog wrote:

Auto Conversions in Clara, Co. Offaly won the contract in November or December to mark and install equipment in new Garda cars. The contract is worth is over €1.1 million. Don't know if this is for new BMWs or what. Maybe someone living down there could confirm?

yeh, they need it, they lost the contract to provide ambulances to the state, it is gone to WAS in Germany!!

on another note, garda cars do pay VRT but it goes dfirectly back to the government, it's in statute and they are obliged to pay it so they can get a reg plate. they do not hpwever pay motor tax or insurance as if they have a crash, you will be paid by the state

G Luxel

one afternoon i was stuck in traffic for an hour, then a camry with the siren on, starts flying through town with a 7 series behind with what looked like an ambassador, there was CD on the plate. I was really annoyed that these elitists can speed their way through town for some meeting involving finger food and bottles of bubbly while people like me are stuck in traffic.:mad:

timmywex

car wars on bbc, watch it, the gards should also, would show them wat its like in england and the resources

ballooba

timmywex wrote:

yeh, they need it, they lost the contract to provide ambulances to the state, it is gone to WAS in Germany!!

Yet another example of our government supporting foreign businesses over indigenous firms, but I'll take that one over to Politics.

It will be great if the Gardai get all these resources they're being promised like Automatic Plate Recognition, Digital Radios, Stingers, VASCAR. I always wondered why the Gardai aren't out pulling people over for dodgy driving (or even stolen cars) rather than having fixed speed checks, checkpoints etc.

I actually had a near miss with a Garda car in Donnybrook a few months back. They just kept on going. I wasn't too sure who was in the wrong.

I'd say if you got pulled over by one of these new beemers you would need a change of underwear. Kind of says "We mean business".

markpb

Wishbone Ash wrote:

Did it have the usual UHF and VHF antennae?

I've seen a quite a few of the GTC cars and haven't noticed any extra antennae on them yet. They're very well done and very effective.