Irish Vintage Scene

1300e mk1

Hi all
The March isue of Irish Vintage Scene is now on sale with loads of great features I hope you are all still enjoying the magazine. And dont forget to check out www.irishvintagescene.ie
Regards
TOM
Editior of Irish Vintage Scene

corktina

the entire Cortina Owners Club loved this issue....:)

see you in April!

by the way could you manage a mention of www.everyfordireland.com Forum?

BMWE21

I have been critical of the mag in the past but having picked up the latest issue I have to say it's coming on in leaps and bounds. Even my missus likes to read it!

I know you said you might be doing something on car assembly in Ireland in future issues. Anything in the pipeline?

folkswagen

Hi Tom

love the article on the new club EIRCOOLED:) Great pics of the cars too:D

G Luxel

The article on the DKW was very interesting, in fact I dont ever remember reading an article on this car in any magazine ever........... When I saw the cover first I thought it was an Anglia I05E and I also thought that maybe it was a large toy car..... I think you should have included a photograph of the interior.

corktina

i actually bought a Cortina off Bill Ryan with the DKW's....he also has a collection of Vauxhalls and some Fords (corsairs mainly) and a Hudson I think it is....

My Mk3 Cortina is in the line up in the Viaduct photo and the Cortina Club article involved me somewhat too....a good issue.

1300e mk1

Hi all thanks for that I will check if there is any photo of DKW interior if so I will print it or post it here good point never noticed it.

BMWE21

Talking of Cortinas, I spotted a Mk IV rusting away on the edge of Carlow town on Friday. Couldn't give you the exact location as I was on the train to Waterford when I saw it. As you leave the station it's in against a hedge on the town centre side. Metallic blue in colour.

cormee

Yeh I agree with the 'Magazine has improved' posts. Definitely a big improvement in the last few months, good to see the classifieds section beefing up too.

mike65

I've said it before but - too many tractors! I bought a copy today. I'll have a proper look this evening.

Is it me or does IVS get best distribution in small shops in the sticks? Its where I tend to spot it.

Mike.

junkyard

It was great to see the article on the Austin fire engine, there used to be a sister of the one in the article in my home town and I always loved it. I was trying to buy the one in the article and thought it went to the U.K. Its good to see it still here in Ireland. There were 8 or 10 of them built for Cork county council and they were all AZB registration.

G Luxel

junkyard wrote:

It was great to see the article on the Austin fire engine, there used to be a sister of the one in the article in my home town and I always loved it. I was trying to buy the one in the article and thought it went to the U.K. Its good to see it still here in Ireland. There were 8 or 10 of them built for Cork county council and they were all AZB registration.

I remember one of these machines lying at a convent in West Waterford in the early I990's and it must have been one of these machines because not only was it a 3 penny design but it also featured the front mounted engine. It was painted a shade of what i thought was dark red.

junkyard

The one in my photo lives in Waterford and, as far as I know, he has a similar one for spares.

Means Of Escape

Anyone else think that Irish Vintage Scene is a total waste of money with glossy paper and poor content?

hi5

No.

corktina

nor me. I dont get it very often but Id say its good vfm and better than all the other Irish Vintage magazines.....oh wait....

johnos1984

me bolly wrote: »

Anyone else think that Irish Vintage Scene is a total waste of money with glossy paper and poor content?

Yep

bookerboy

I normally pick it up at shows.It's a great read.
Content is streets ahead of the UK publications(that never cover anything in Ireland)and i intend to get a subscribsion going this year.
Keep up the good work Irish Vintage Scene and ignore the chip on shoulder attitude here.

johnos1984

bookerboy wrote: »

Keep up the good work Irish Vintage Scene and ignore the chip on shoulder attitude here.

I don't have a chip on my shoulder I just don't think its a great magazine and I had trouble with placing ads before with them and their attitude was pretty much a case of please piss off.

Its a great effort no doubt but I think it can be done better that's all.

jimmyw

me bolly wrote: »

Anyone else think that Irish Vintage Scene is a total waste of money with glossy paper and poor content?

I am sorry to say that both the mag and the website just dont do it for me.I bought the mag once and there is something missing reading it ( and no not pages;)), I cant put my finger on it but I didnt buy it again.As for the website, there is tumble weed blowing across my screen.Very little activity on there considering that owning a classic is a full time job with I would have thought lots of chat about owning, restoring and maintaining classics.I do buy a UK publication and I am also on the website there too with more things going on there.Yes I am not patriotic when it comes to this, but I wont buy something for the sake of it but if other people find it good, then thats fine for them, but not me.

the bolt

me bolly wrote: »

Anyone else think that Irish Vintage Scene is a total waste of money with glossy paper and poor content?

if you dont like it keep your money and buy a different mag.:rolleyes:

alastair

the bolt wrote: »

if you dont like it keep your money and buy a different mag.:rolleyes:

...and his/her opinions to themselves?

You seem to be missing out on the point of a discussion forum somewhat.

sid131

the new retro mag is better but not enough content for me, they can do better as there are some v cool cars in Ireland that will never seem be covered, dont send in pics cos they get ignored:mad:

Means Of Escape

Point is the magazine needs to be more than what it is
no chip on shoulder here just stating facts.
Magazine looks great but fails to deliver.
It is not in the same league as Practical Classics that gets involved w features that truly depicts the idea of owning a classic.

Means Of Escape

In fact you'd have the key bits of rhe magazine read while standing at the shelf

manta mad

well i get the Irish vintage scene mag every month, and since it started too !

i think its good and its got a lot better than it used to be ,great mix of cars,bikes, trucks & lorries .


plus this magazine is Irish, & features a hell of a lot of stuff that we don't see out at shows !
it has ( in my opinion ) been a great success & has given a boost to the classic scene here in Ireland !

so id be full of praise for tom ,Andrew & the Irish vintage scene team for putting this together & i think they should be supported & helped in any way possible to keep going and improve in anyway possible that you/others think would be better than what they are already publishing !

so its a thumbs up from me for the mag :cool:

Silvera

I used to buy the magazine regularly and was/am happy to support an Irish publication. The magazine has come on greatly from its early days. However, I agree that it is still missing 'something'.

For me I would like to see the following -

- Titles over each letter on the Letters Page (rather than having to read each letter to see what it's about)
- A couple of pages showing actual repairs carried out in a dealership/garage/restoration workshop
- A 'Dealers Page' - with tales of 'wheeling and dealing'
- An auction page - with prices listed from both UK and Irish auctions
- A 'price guide' (I'm aware that this item could be a bit tricky to put together)
- The overall layout (and grammar) of the magazine needs to be sharpened up

I too much prefer the 'Retro' edition published by IVS, and look forward to the next edition.


As an aside, I approached the IVS stand a couple of years ago at a car show in order to politely inquire about an article I had previously submitted. I was met with total indifference and within a minute or so the person manning the stand simply turned away from me. While I still buy the magazine now and again, I have to say the attitude I met with that day has totally put me off ever approaching the IVS stand again.

carchaeologist

I wrote an article last year which has yet to be published but I'm sure they are sent many articles throughout the year on various subjects. it's no big deal if they don't use it.
I can't imagine it's easy to publish a magazine every four weeks with as many varied items as they have. Also it has to cover the entire vintage scene in Ireland not just the cars.
I personally have no interest in the Retro magazine, but I'm not a mod head myself anyway.
The IVS Magazine does a very good job IMO covering the Irish scene, I don't see anyone else going out there and trying to do something similar. It's good to see Irish cars in a magazine every month as opposed to the raft of MGBs, Triumphs and other done to death classics and the like in all the english magazines.
Im sure the guy Silvera was talking to was just manning the stand and had no idea of the day to day running of the magazine?

Blue850

me bolly wrote: »

It is not in the same league as Practical Classics that gets involved w features that truly depicts the idea of owning a classic.

You're not comparing like with like, Practical Classics has been in business since 1980 and has the huge financial and publishing clout of Bauer Media behind it.

chevyv8

i have every single edition since it was released, it covers a good cross section of vehicles, cars ,bikes, trucks farm machinery etc, all irish owned stuff, i enjoy reading the magazine and it is great to see what is out there.i have spoken to tom on various occasions and i know for a fact he is out the door with people requesting stuff printed. i have also spoken to tom and his staff on many occasion both here and in england at bermingham nec , and have always found them willing to talk and have never left toms stand without a good old chin wag, ok the magazine may not suit everybody or may find that there may be too many tractors, or buses etc, its impossible to keep everybody happy all the time but they do quiet a great job with a 100% irish magazine , i look forward to my copy in the post. my main interest is american cars but am interested in other types of transport. good job tom on an irish magazine..:):)

hi5

Who are we talking about? actually I dont want to know.
I thought we were talking about a magazine and not a person?
I buy the magazine for its content and not because I agree/disagree with what the owner had for breakfast.
Are people in this country not happy unless everything is parocialised?:(

gfwd

Well, as the person who started this thread I'm sure he's read everything that's been said. It'll be interesting to hear his response.

As for that 'something' that's missing from the magazine, I personally find it's the lack of quotes from the vehicle owner that leaves the features a little flat. The English mags tend to let the owner/restorer tell the story and that always makes it a more interesting read.

MK 1 1300E

I want to start by thanking Me Bolly for reigniting this thread yesterday; there are some great points on here that I and all at the Irish Vintage Scene will take on board. As we speak we are just about to get our second Retro Classics issue off to print, so for that reason I will post a full reply later in the week. I will also contact directly anyone who has expressed disappointment in the magazine or our services to see if we can put things right.
I also want to thank who ever removed the slanderous remarks by Sid131 (who in fact has done the same on other forums about us; there a such thing as a chip on a shoulder, but some seem to have the whole world on their shoulder). As correctly pointed out, this forum is about the magazine so if we can in any way improve it or our service, then we will. Thanks again for the great comments, as constructive criticism has helped to make Irish Vintage Scene Ireland’s most successful motoring magazine, so if you have some more input, keep it coming.
Great discussion all bar one or two. Thanks, I’ll catch up later this week.
Tom owner and editor of Irish Vintage Scene

ahal

Well I'd like to throw in my tuppenceworth here (or whatever that is converted into cents ) I contacted Tom about my club a year and a bit ago and he was good enough to give us a half page, after which the membership of the club increased dramatically. If that isn't supportive, I don't know what is.

Thanks once again Tom

chevyv8

keep up the good work tom, and all your gang, i have sent a few copies to my buddies in the states and they found the mag very interesting and gave them an insight into whats happening in ireland. they are interested in all types of transport and there is a huge tractor /farm machinery crowd stateside. a lot of them stateside would not know an awful lot about european stuff but found the mag informative .. so as far as i am concerned its a great irish magazine with a good cross section of all types of transport and farm machinery, i particularly love the old black n white pictures..:D:D

bookerboy

Who was it that said "You can keep some of the people happy some of the time,but you can't keep all of the people happy all of the time"
I think that quote applies here.
Of course some people are just never happy.

johnos1984

bookerboy wrote: »

Who was it that said "You can keep some of the people happy some of the time,but you can't keep all of the people happy all of the time"
I think that quote applies here.
Of course some people are just never happy.

Even Tom from ICS above is happy to listen to some of the suggestions given so that's a wasted point.

I personally find some of the articles poorly written with lots of mistakes and a 'local' paper feeling to some of the articles that will only appeal to a small number of the readers.

And I'll be honest, I know they have to make money but I find the magazine expensive for what it offers.

carchaeologist

johnos1984 wrote: »

And I'll be honest, I know they have to make money but I find the magazine expensive for what it offers.

Six quid once a month? Hardly bank breaking!

chevyv8

bookerboy wrote: »

Who was it that said "You can keep some of the people happy some of the time,but you can't keep all of the people happy all of the time"
I think that quote applies here.
Of course some people are just never happy.

abe lincoln..:D

the bolt

alastair wrote: »

...and his/her opinions to themselves?

You seem to be missing out on the point of a discussion forum somewhat.

not missing anything,simple fact just.if you dont like it go buy a different mag.personally i dont buy it very often but for other reasons.

johnos1984

carchaeologist wrote: »

Six quid once a month? Hardly bank breaking!

It is if you don't like it

alastair

the bolt wrote: »

not missing anything,simple fact just.if you dont like it go buy a different mag.personally i dont buy it very often but for other reasons.

Emm - this is a 'discussion forum' - If the poster holds the opinion that the mag is below par, that's a perfectly valid disussion point. You appear to believe that they should keep their opinion to themselves - which misses the point of discussion outright. It's got nothing to do with whether they choose to buy the mag or not.

Gel

I bought the June issue, my first and I really enjoyed the mag.
For what it's worth, the missus is always on to me over wasting money on classic cars and guess what! As I write, she's sitting at the table browsing through the magazine and commenting on all the lovely cars!!
Thumbs up for Irish Vintage!

G Luxel

The magazine is devoted to the vintage scene, not just cars alone.... but I have also bought UK magazines and find they are full of advertising than articles .
I havent read anything about Fiat 1100s or DKWs as a major article in any other english-language magazine until I bought this magazine. keep up the good work:)

DarenO

Having been previously in the car mag game (Modified Motors), I know exactly what Tom and his team face in producing a monthly mag. Firstly the market is too small to be solely cars although tractors hold no interest for me and I skip the pages there is a huge countrywide interest, so you need to hit all your potential buyers with their interests.

Then you have advertising which pays for production, given Irish business' ability to always look for credit rather than paying on due date, sales are then used to cover the shortfall while you chase the debts. This isn't fun when you are in the business of making/selling magazines.

Deadlines, production deadlines require the writers to have their articles written and submitted on time and the designers to format and get it on to disc for printing, try doing this monthly and any break in the chain can scupper things which can lead to reduced quality.

Costs- the mag uses high gloss paper which is expensive unless they've sourced printing in NI or the UK, add to that distribution costs and retailers take you are left with very little profit

Writing - some people are naturally good writers and some people love old cars/tractors/bikes but finding people with both is difficult so I'm prepared to forgive as long as the passion comes across.

I've supported the mag because it is Irish and because I'm interested in classic cars. My only preference would be to see less ZVs unless the cars are ultra rare and more original Irish, a bit like genealogy you can trace the car back to being assembled by Irish hands and owned, driven and survived Irish roads and scrappage schemes.

All the best for the future with the mag. And let me state I've no vested interest in IVS or it's owner, just my opinion.

carchaeologist

DarenO wrote: »

My only preference would be to see less ZVs unless the cars are ultra rare and more original Irish, a bit like genealogy you can trace the car back to being assembled by Irish hands and owned, driven and survived Irish roads and scrappage schemes.

I agree totally and in fairness the cover car every month is usually an original Irish car, I'm not sure if thus is intentional, but it's nice to see it.

Most of the classic cars in this country are imported and many of the supposed original ones are ringers so what's left and genuine should be championed.

The Aussie

I buy it all the time and usually like it, but can i ask without trying to get smart or anything, what is it with the Tractors and Toys??? I personally have never read one page on either.

As for original Irish Reg, im not fussed really. im more impressed by the car than a Reg plate myself...

Blue850

The Aussie wrote: »

I buy it all the time and usually like it, but can i ask without trying to get smart or anything, what is it with the Tractors and Toys

Because there's probably more vintage tractors in Ireland than classic cars:D

and my 5 year old son loves the Toys models page

The Aussie

Blue850 wrote: »

Because there's probably more vintage tractors in Ireland than classic cars:D

and my 5 year old son loves the Toys models page

Cool, always wondered why down in the local Centra there are 5 Tractor mags and only 2 classic car mags, always thought it was a bit unbalanced.

corktina

carchaeologist wrote: »

I agree totally and in fairness the cover car every month is usually an original Irish car, I'm not sure if thus is intentional, but it's nice to see it.

Most of the classic cars in this country are imported and many of the supposed original ones are ringers so what's left and genuine should be championed.

Its a great pity that genuine Irish cars are not valued more (not that I have one atm) and that ringers are lessening the true value of the real thing. One day their true worth will be appreciated, especially the irish assembled ones.

hi5

corktina wrote: »

Its a great pity that genuine Irish cars are not valued more (not that I have one atm) and that ringers are lessening the true value of the real thing. One day their true worth will be appreciated, especially the irish assembled ones.

What happens to all the old Irish reg restoration projects you see on the likes of Donedeal,do they actually get bought or is it one last throw of the dice before they go to the scrappers:(

Stuff like this.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/2274541