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Do I've to pay TV License fee?

  • 20-02-2007 11:40AM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,968 ✭✭✭✭


    Apologies if this is the wrong forum, seems the best place to me

    I’ve a 14” portable at home.
    I use it playing the Nintendo 64 and watching DVD’s

    I cannot watch terrestrial TV on it for three reasons:
    •Cannot get a signal due to living beside Croke Park. When I tried to wireless broadband the technician said the same thing.
    •TV can only be tuned through the remote. Unfortunately this had partially melted when I left it on the radiator so I have no way of tuning in channels on the TV.
    •There is no NTL socket or satellite dish in the apartment

    Around 6:30 every Wednesday, the TV licence inspector has been calling around.
    I’ve been ignoring him so far but if I invited him in and told the truth, would he accept I didn’t need to pay a license fee?

    Thanks for any help


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Yes, you still need to pay a licence fee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,800 ✭✭✭county


    you have a TV,therefore you need a TV licence plan and simple


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,257 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    You have a TV, you need a license.
    Get a multi functional all in one remote at your local hardware/electronic store.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    boards.ie > Arts > Television > Television is the TV forum


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,114 ✭✭✭muckwarrior


    Invite him in, dismember him and dump him in the canal.

    Seriously though, if it's a 14" TV surely you can throw it in the wardrobe and then bring him in and show him you don't have a TV.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,503 ✭✭✭Archeron


    Invite him in, dismember him and dump him in the canal.

    Seriously though, if it's a 14" TV surely you can throw it in the wardrobe and then bring him in and show him you don't have a TV.

    Just make sure you connect your Nintendo to a friends bellybutton and have them stand in the corner making "click-beep" noises to avoid any suspicion of having a games console with no screen.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,742 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    What if you have one of those wrist tv's that you can get in Gadgetshop?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    If your confident that the TV cannot be tuned into a terrestrial signal then invite him in and show him as it's the ability to receive signals that your paying the license for, not the TV screen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    if you have a tv tuner you need a license


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,114 ✭✭✭muckwarrior


    robinph wrote:
    If your confident that the TV cannot be tuned into a terrestrial signal then invite him in and show him as it's the ability to receive signals that your paying the license for, not the TV screen.
    I'm pretty sure you're wrong there. I recall ads a few years ago that stated that even if you had a tv in your office that you only used for showing training videos or whatever, you still needed a licence for it.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    I'm pretty sure you're wrong there. I recall ads a few years ago that stated that even if you had a tv in your office that you only used for showing training videos or whatever, you still needed a licence for it.
    Yep, it's the tuner that your paying for and if that does not exist in the TV then you don't have to pay, if it does then you do. The OP's TV seem to be faulty though so might be able to get around it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    robinph wrote:
    If your confident that the TV cannot be tuned into a terrestrial signal then invite him in and show him as it's the ability to receive signals that your paying the license for, not the TV screen.

    Wrong, so wrong.

    The law is quite clear - any device capable of receiving a signal. It is irrelevant that he can't actually receive a signal, it's down to the fact that the device was built to receive one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,863 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    you still have to pay for a broken tv, unless it really can't be fixed, at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Haven't a Clue


    micmclo wrote:
    Apologies if this is the wrong forum, seems the best place to me

    I’ve a 14” portable at home.
    I use it playing the Nintendo 64 and watching DVD’s

    I cannot watch terrestrial TV on it for three reasons:
    •Cannot get a signal due to living beside Croke Park. When I tried to wireless broadband the technician said the same thing.
    •TV can only be tuned through the remote. Unfortunately this had partially melted when I left it on the radiator so I have no way of tuning in channels on the TV.
    •There is no NTL socket or satellite dish in the apartment

    Around 6:30 every Wednesday, the TV licence inspector has been calling around.
    I’ve been ignoring him so far but if I invited him in and told the truth, would he accept I didn’t need to pay a license fee?

    Thanks for any help
    More importantly, how many tickets did you get for the match on Saturday?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,503 ✭✭✭Archeron


    Do you need a license if you have a pet Teletubbie with Tummy-vision?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Maybe its just someone pretending to be the TV License inspector...does he look like the guy off the ad?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    tom dunne wrote:
    Wrong, so wrong.

    The law is quite clear - any device capable of receiving a signal. It is irrelevant that he can't actually receive a signal, it's down to the fact that the device was built to receive one.
    Sorry, I should have made it clearer when I said about not being able to tune into a signal. I didn't mean just because of where the TV happened to be positioned was enough to get around it, the OP said that the TV is faulty and cannot receive a signal for that reason and not just because there is a big stadium outside their window.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,562 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    As was pointed out above if you have a TV with a broken tuner you still need a license.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Archeron wrote:
    Do you need a license if you have a pet Teletubbie with Tummy-vision?

    I'd imagine you'd need a pet license and a tv license and presumably a shotgun too.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    As was pointed out above if you have a TV with a broken tuner you still need a license.
    If the hardware cannot pick up TV channels then why would you need a license?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    robinph wrote:
    If the hardware cannot pick up TV channels then why would you need a license?

    Cause it's a TV license, not an RTE license?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Cause it's a TV license, not an RTE license?
    Well it is actually an RTE license, but they couldn't care less as to if you watch their programs or not. ;)

    If the TV hardware cannot be tuned into a signal other than the AV channel though then you don't need a license. But if you happen to have a video recorder though that does tune in OK then you will still need a license.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,727 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Then surely we should have to pay a radio license? What complete bull****

    And how does a radio station make its money? The same way a terrestrial TV station makes money in any other country: ADVERTISEMENT.

    And just what is RTE doing with the money? Its total sh*te anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭layke


    This is going back a few years but when I was 17 I used to work in a video shop and when the inspector came round all he did was check to see if our TV's could receive terrestrial channels. Once he found out that we had removed the antennas there was no problem.

    Then again things could have changed since then. TBh your best bet is to call up whoever is in the know and ask.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Overheal wrote:
    Then surely we should have to pay a radio license? What complete bull****

    And how does a radio station make its money? The same way a terrestrial TV station makes money in any other country: ADVERTISEMENT.

    And just what is RTE doing with the money? Its total sh*te anyway.
    The TV license used to be called a radio license, then someone invented a way of adding pictures to the radio signal and they changed what they called it. Some of the RTE radio stations get funding from the TV license in addition to the advertising revenue I think. TV3 don't get money from the TV license, only the RTE channels do.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,115 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Open up the tv and break the reciever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,562 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    robinph wrote:
    If the hardware cannot pick up TV channels then why would you need a license?
    Open up the tv and break the reciever.

    Any broken TV is legally deemed to be repairable for TV licensing purposes and a therefore a TV license is required. That's the way the law is written and enforced.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Any broken TV is legally deemed to be repairable for TV licensing purposes and a therefore a TV license is required. That's the way the law is written and enforced.
    The cheeky feckers do have that written into it after all. Although I'm sure that some lawyer with too much time on their hands could argue their way round that clause as being unfair in some European Court of Nonsense or other though.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    I'd say leggit clean to another country with yer tv in one arm and the N64 in the other. If u leave on a thursday morning you will have a week headstart on the f***ers. You could maintain a video diary for us of your adventures around the world, being chased by one Irish licence inspector.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    robinph wrote:
    TV3 don't get money from the TV license, only the RTE channels do.
    Actually 5% of the license fee goes into the Sound and Vision fund which any broadcaster can apply for.... And my radio station gets money out of the license fee this way.... So everyone please pay your license fee so that I can continue to afford feed my monkey.


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