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Disney

  • 18-02-2007 2:33am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 227 ✭✭


    Just wanted to know what's everyone's fave Disney movie....

    And ya'll have to have one...

    LOL

    It's DISNEY after all :P

    Mine is Lion King :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 Mysteron


    Ya i'd expect the lion king will win this one, it's definately my fave. Apparently it's loosely based on Macbeth. Apparently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    actually you'll find a closer comparison with the anime Kimba the white lion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    The Lion King wins hands down for me.
    I still enjoy the older classic animated movies from Disney. The work they have done with Pixar is still very good, but you just can't beat good old had drawn animation at times.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,410 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Beauty and the Beast for me. Classic tale told extremely well with quite a moving story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    The Lion King is an amalgamation of Shakespear's Hamlet, Kimba the White Lion and The Land Before Time ("great circle of life" anyone?).

    My favourite Disney movie has got to be Aladdin. Its one of the few Disney films that had me rooting for the central character (I usually hope against all hope taht the fail, big cynic that I am).
    Best character has got to be Gaston (from Beauty and the Beast). He's so arrogant and full of himself, reminds me of me. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,801 ✭✭✭✭Kojak


    Lion King, ftw


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 honey#1


    I love Disney films but the lion king is great, the mermaid is pretty brill 2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,334 ✭✭✭OfflerCrocGod


    Aladdin thanks to Robin Williams performance - great genie :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    Interesting topic. I am and always have been a huge fan of animation. But I was never a big fan of Disney films.

    As a kid the only one I really liked was 'The Black Cauldron'.

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    And it mainly appealed to me because it didn't have the two things in it that I can't stand about Disney films... The songs and the annoying cutesy comedy character that they throw into every film.

    I think it was the only Disney film to receive a PG rating as well.

    Can't tell you what I think of The Black Cauldron these days though as Disney seems to think of it as a dirty little secret and it doesn't seem to get too many releases or screenings.

    As a grown up I'd have to pick Fantasia as my favourite film. It's simply an absolute master piece and the sequel Fantasia 2000 is pretty damn good too.

    I don't really consider the Pixar films to be Disney films, as they are very far removed from the Disney 'formula' (Except for the strange obsession with lone parent families that both Pixar and Disney seem to have) But I'd consider the Pixar films to be substantially stronger material than the traditional Disney films.

    Dispite the fact that I've never been a big fan of Disney, I'd still like to see them go back to using more traditional animation methods instead of the 3D CGI stuff that everyone seems to think makes Pixar films so popular & successful. Well it's not... what makes Pixar films work is good stories and characters that don't patronise kids.

    What's everyone's favourite Disney Motion Picutre? It has to be The Black Hole for me... it's a bit corny, but I absolutely loved that film as a kid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭lodgepole


    Black Cauldron is excellent, and very dark. There's a few scenes in it that still get me going as an adult. I have no idea if Jackson ever saw it, but there's a definite bang of Lord of the Rings of it too.

    I love Disney's animated features. Snow White remains one of my favourites, as is Dumbo, Fantasia and Robin Hood. In the more recent batch Beauty and the Beast is by far the best with The Lion King and Aladdin close behind. Pocahantas, Mulan and The Emperor's New Groove are all brilliant too and criminally under-rated.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    Pocahontas has some absolutely brilliant songs in it.

    Mulan would have been a good film if it wasn't for Eddie Murphy as a comedy dragon... that just ruins the whole affair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,347 ✭✭✭daiixi


    Definitely Aladdin. Show me the world baybee.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,326 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    I used to like Disney movies as a kid but I cant stand now and thats because of one thing, the songs. I just cant sit through any musical, I just dont get them at all.

    The Black Cauldron sounds interesting. I have never heard of it before but I think going to try get my hands on a copy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    My favourite animated movies as a kid were The Land Before Time, Transformers: the Movie and He-Man/She-Ra: Seceret of the Sword.
    -nnot a breaking out into song between them.

    I agree with whomever said the Emperor's New Groove was criminaly underrated. I can't believe it was so overlooked. Alot of people said "They must be running out of ideas." Really? As opposed to rehashing fairy tales that are centuries old?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭bluto63


    It's the Jungle Book for me. Love those monkeys!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 435 ✭✭The Denouncer


    Some of their dark Fantasia segments are fantastic, particularly the Bare Mountain segment. Very ambitious movie, often over-looked. Compare it against the much lighter (though still good) Fantasia 2000 to see how the company has been more and more PC over the years.
    I love The Jungle Book and Beauty and the Beast too.

    Never was too mad about the Elton John/Tim Rice/Hans Zimmer efforts in The Lion King, not one of my favs at all. No where near as witty as Beauty and the Beast or as catchy as The Jungle Book


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 227 ✭✭Rawr!


    I think that one of the reasons that I LOVE Disney so much is for the music.... I have most Disney songs on my mp3.... YES! I AM that sad! ;)

    LOL

    Anywho...

    I think the music is GREAT!

    Bring on Sebastion and his Crustacian Band anyday ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,561 ✭✭✭Rhyme


    BlitzKrieg wrote:
    actually you'll find a closer comparison with the anime Kimba the white lion.
    Shh... conspiracy.

    But yeh, love the Lion King and basically all of the Disney tiles from my childhood. Some of the newer ones and sequels not so much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,592 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Aladdin, but I dont care very much for any Disney film, really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 227 ✭✭Rawr!


    Aladdin, but I dont care very much for any Disney film, really.



    Shame on you LOL


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭lardboy


    It's got to be The Jungle Book. Even 40 years later it hasn't dated a bit. The possible exception to this is the Vulture characters, who were portrayed as British characters due to the Brit invasion of cool that the States were going through at the time (originally, it was to be The Beatles who provided the voices, according to IMBd, so cause and effect could be the wrong way round). However, they're easily my favourite Disney characters, as they have a nice touch of darkness to them.

    All the characters in the Jungle Book are superb: Shere Khan is properly scary, Baloo and Bagheera are the Angel and the Devil on Mowgli's shoulders, and King Louie is suitably devious, yet funky as hell. Oh, not forgetting Kaa as the hypnotising snake.

    And the songs. My god, the songs! Each and every one a classic. The Sherman Brothers weren't too swayed by prevailing fashions in the music scene, and so just wrote great tunes.

    I could go on, but It's getting close to bed time, so I'll leave it...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 227 ✭✭Rawr!


    You seem to know your Jungle Book ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭Mikosyko


    Is it true that Disney has turned away from traditional animation and is now focusing only on CGI movies? :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    Mikosyko wrote:
    Is it true that Disney has turned away from traditional animation and is now focusing only on CGI movies? :(
    It looked like that.... the next 3 films from the Disney Animation studios are CGI (Rapunzel Unbriaded looks interesting though)

    But it now seems they are working on a traditional animated film called The Frog Princess... but it may not be out until 2010.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭inverted_world


    Mine are Sleeping Beauty, Alice in Wonderland and Robin Hood. My favourite villain has to be Malifacent... she quite simply rocks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    Mikosyko wrote:
    Is it true that Disney has turned away from traditional animation and is now focusing only on CGI movies? :(

    What happened (I think) was they did close the traditional animation studios and were going completely cgi, but when it became apparent that they sucked at it and pixar could go it alone without disney (I get a bit muddled here) they bought up pixar and put the head of pixar in charge of their animation department.

    who straight away ripped apart most of the cgi films they had planned and reopened the traditional animation studios.


    not sure how this all came about, but I think those are the main points.

    I'll check later if I can be arsed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Hmm, I'd have to agree with the people who say that the musical numbers and the token comic relief characters are grating. Although I would say that I'd like to see The Black Cauldron, if it's without these annoying elements.

    I'd say that I remember enjoying Beauty & The Beast, and The Lion King, but quite honestly, I've never felt like any of them would deserve a repeated watch.

    I've always felt that Disney excelled more in marketing and business strategy than they did in animation. I won't even make comparisons between Disney and Studio Ghibli, because as a kid, it was an absolute rarity to see a Ghibli film (Castle In The Sky being the only one that stuck in my mind since I was young), but other animated films like The Land Before Time, The Last Unicorn and The Flight Of Dragons, aswell as many others, all seemed superior to Disney's efforts even at the young age I was at the time. It seems kinda sad that Fox's animation studios closed down after two very good animated films, Anastasia and Titan A.E. Both, I'd say are better than anything Disney had to offer at the time.

    A lot of people probably won't agree with me, and perhaps it's just me, but Disney just appears to me as a very cynical business that excels on their business prowess more than making quality films.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    I was a huge fan of the Ralph Bakshi films when I was a kid.

    Stuff like Wizards, Lord of the Rings and Fire and Ice were absolutely brilliant.

    I remember being pissed off when I wasn't allowed to see Fritz the Cat at about the age of 8... but when I finally saw it I found it to be a bit dull.

    The already mentioned Flight of Dragons and the Last Unicorn were also favourites. Although on watching The Last Unicorn as an adult I was shocked to find the film is full of pretty awful songs by the band America that I must have filtered out as a kid. Also the main villian loses a lot of his menace these days as he's a 'red bull'.

    Another animated film I like as a kid was Starchaser: The Legend of Orin. It was a total rip off of Star Wars, but it was immense fun and had some great space ship designs and animation... I would have loved to have seen it in 3D, which it was originally designed for.

    Oh... and lets not forget the amazing Comet Quest. Which was a claymation film about Mark Twain's journey to meet up with Haley's Comet in a strange flying machine on which some of his most popular characters have stowed away on. Lots of Twain's short stories are very well realised in the film and some of it is extremely disturbing.

    On the other hand you had Disney films which as I kid I found incredibly patronising.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 227 ✭✭Rawr!


    Awh, I love Disney... especially the songs :P


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Rawr! wrote:
    Awh, I love Disney... especially the songs :P

    I think everyone's figured that out by now. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 227 ✭✭Rawr!


    LOL....

    hahaha.....

    I can't help it....

    I dunno....

    I think that maybe its because I wasn't as obsessed as a child..... Like I had the videos... Beauty and the Beast, The Fox and the Hound, Pocahontas etc....

    I remember getting my first Disney film..... One Christmas, it was Snow White.... I was excited LOL.... But as a child I only ever watched the movies a couple of times....

    Then last year I bought the Lion King Trilogy.... And the Obsession began....

    LOL.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Out of curiosity, have you much experience of animated films outside of Disney ones? Because I can't say that there's much to gush about Disney, compared to Studio Ghibli.

    Coincidentally, Disney's Robin Hood was on TV yesterday, and I remember being quite fond of that particular film as a kid. Definetly one I had forgotten about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 227 ✭✭Rawr!


    Um..... I watch anything really... LOL....

    I like just sittin down in an afternoon and checkin whats on.....

    UM.....

    I liked that Anastasia film.... Fox..... Again for the music LOL

    Hah!

    I'm a hopeless case!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Can you be any more specific, besides "Anything"?

    Personally, the musical numbers in Anastasia was a little off-putting though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 227 ✭✭Rawr!


    lol... hahah... I'm easy ;)

    LOL

    Well I watch any movie apart from HORROR!

    YUCK!

    I can't watch scary films!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Rawr! wrote:
    lol... hahah... I'm easy ;)

    LOL

    Well I watch any movie apart from HORROR!

    YUCK!

    I can't watch scary films!

    I do believe I said more specific, not more vague.

    I'm asking quite specifically about what other animated films you have watched. "Any movie apart from Horror" really doesn't narrow it down much, now does it? So can you give a few titles here or what?

    Hmm... Have you seen Spirited Away?



    This would probably be the most well known Ghibli film, what with having won an Oscar. Distrubuted by Disney in America, coincidentally.

    Incredible soundtrack aswell, composed by Joe Hisaishi, which I have on CD. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    Can you be any more specific, besides "Anything"?

    Personally, the musical numbers in Anastasia was a little off-putting though.
    I liked Titan AE... But I didn't like Anastasia at all. A combination of poor songs, skewered view of history and an annoying comedy bat are what put me off.

    They did the Prince of Egypt as well didn't they? That wasn't too bad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 227 ✭✭Rawr!


    em. don't be gettin alll....... I dunno... yer soundin mean..... lol

    Um.... I like POKEMON! Sad I know. But sher, ya can't help what ya like, ya know.

    Um... I dunno.... I mostly just watch Disney animation...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 599 ✭✭✭jinxycat


    lol i've the lion king trilogy too.
    i watch them now and again, love the disney films, also you should check out spirit away it's cool too.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,663 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    I dont watch disney films now that im all growed up! But i did like Pete and the Dragon when i was a kid. I think it was a walt flick!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    cats dont dance...


    its not disney but everyone except me seems to hate that film.


    I really liked it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 227 ✭✭Rawr!


    I never heard of it....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 227 ✭✭Rawr!


    Can you be any more specific, besides "Anything"?

    Personally, the musical numbers in Anastasia was a little off-putting though.



    Ok I do remember one film I quite liked as a child. Umm.... What was it called.... Used to be on cartoon network... about dogs... all dogs go to heaven?!

    Think that was it...

    Such a good film :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    all dogs go to heaven is a don bluth film.

    very good animation director don bluth.

    Use to make his films in Ireland (all dogs go to heaven was made here)

    his films always looked darker then disney's though.

    he directed Anastasia if I remember and the Land before time (the first one)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 227 ✭✭Rawr!


    cool....

    yeah...

    i loved that film... all dogs go to heaven

    was always on sunday lunchtimes...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    The Secret of NIMH was the only Bluth film I ever liked.

    Oh.. that and the Dragons Lair and Space Ace games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    but you liked titan ae?

    you said so numerous posts up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Titan AE was criminally underrated IMO. Too dark for th target audience methinks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    Brilliant sound mix on it as well.

    The space chase in the ice field sounds amazing in surround sound.

    Although I think they borrowed heavily from the Lensman movie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    oh that looks interesting.


    *goes to wiki it*


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