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  • 01-02-2007 11:46pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭


    Tonight I pulled in to the hard shoulder on the n3 where the limit is 100km/h to try something ( my friend was recording my speedometer with my camera phone ) anyway, was just testing the 0-60mph on my car.. so pulled out and started revving, got to 60mph in 2nd gear and only went slightly over the limit maybe, 102km/h or smething.. then slowed back to about 80-90km/h and and put it into proper gear 4th/5th.. anyway the Gardai traffic corps jeep pulled me in not long after and start saying "what the hell do you think you were doing", etc etc, I said I just pulled in to wipe the condensation off my windscreen but dont think he bought it... checked my discs (everything was in date and fine) then looked at my license and wrote something in his notepad. Handed me back my license and walked back to his own car. Jus wondering what laws exactly did I break?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭dingding


    Driving without due care and attention.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Lorax


    What ? ?

    I was paying attention to the road, its a straight stretch of road like I wasnt swerving or anything, complete control of the car just like when driving normally , I didnt know there was a law against going over 6000 rpm

    and the care thing, it would actually be more dangerous if I accelerated slowly up to the limit imo because the cars behind me would have had to brake to slow down, or do some dangerous overtaking onto oncoming traffic


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,575 ✭✭✭junkyard


    And you probably fit the description of a boy racer so your fair game for the cops I'm afraid. Be prepared to be harassed and intimidated, most of us who are honest about it have been there buddy.:rolleyes: :)


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    60mph in second? Do you not like your car?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Lorax


    Im just wondering whats gonna happen, like a fine, court case, ? didnt really feel like running after the gardai and asking him


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭overdriver


    Like he didn't know EXACTLY what you were doing.. These guys have seen it all.

    But really, that's not very sensible driving, is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,722 ✭✭✭maidhc


    I'd put my money on nothing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 93 ✭✭DMC2005


    Lorax wrote:
    I pulled in to the hard shoulder

    I'm pretty sure your not supposed to stop in the hard shoulder except in the case of accident or breakdown, and I'm pretty sure that you are only allowed drive in the shoulder in the event of making temporary use of it to allow a car to overtake you.

    If it was a motorway you would be facing a fine and penalty points.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭Rudolph Claus


    Lol, :D
    Sure the cops had nothing better to do. This seemingly new thing of them taking a note of a persons licence and not telling the person what they plan to do is a joke. How does this benefit anyone except lazy guards that are too busy catching minor traffic crap instead of catching joyriders and other such scum. You`ll probably get a sneaky summons or something in a couple months, actually this is Ireland, in about 8months.

    You wernt doing any harm, if this is taken further i suggest you regard the whole incident in a comical context for your own sanity.

    What car have you anyway, and what was your time? :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭drdre


    You should have asked te guards before they left.Its difficult to tell you as if it was dangerous o carless driving they would have arrested you or notified you about it.I think you will just getting a speeding fine or something small.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭Rudolph Claus


    I'm pretty sure your not supposed to stop in the hard shoulder except in the case of accident or breakdown, and I'm pretty sure that you are only allowed drive in the shoulder in the event of making temporary use of it to allow a car to overtake you.
    Well what about people that want to avoid an accident, that use the hard shoulder to wipe severe condensation so as to see out their windscreen. Would you deem this as important a reason to use the hard shoulder? And yes i know that was an excuse the OP made up but it still could be a legitimate and responsible use of the hard shoulder in a genuine case of condensation problems. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 93 ✭✭DMC2005


    Nuttzy wrote:
    Well what about people that want to avoid an accident, that use the hard shoulder to wipe severe condensation so as to see out their windscreen. Would you deem this as important a reason to use the hard shoulder? And yes i know that was an excuse the OP made up but it still could be a legitimate and responsible use of the hard shoulder in a genuine case of condensation problems. :rolleyes:

    Well firstly if condensation was such a problem he would be guilty of "using a vehicle from which driver has inadequate visibility of road and traffic" - This will get him a penelty point and fine.

    Secondly I don't believe the relevent legislation allows for many excuses in this area. For example a number of people have been done for talking on their phones in the hard shoulder of motorways.

    Stopping in the hard shoulder is generally regarded as dangerous anyway.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭skibum


    Don't ya think you should get a bit more experience under your belt before trying to time your 0 - 60's on a public road?

    According to your post in this thread you are only driving for 8 months :confused:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055049143


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,364 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    The hard shoulder is only to be used for emergencies such as avoiding a colision or if you are broken down. Pulling in to the hard shoulder to answer your mobile phone is now an offence. They simply could have been further back the road and watched what you were attempting to do. You may have gotten away with just a ticking off if you didn't try the condensation excuse. You could possibly be issued with a penalty point or two in the post, only time will tell really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,423 ✭✭✭fletch


    Oh for the love of god, he was testing his 0-60 time, I don't think that's dangerous given the stretch of road he was using (N3) which is a National Primary route. He could probably see at least 1 mile ahead of him and I'm sure looked in his rear view mirror/over his shoulder before he pulled out. Can somebody explain to me how that's dangerous? He said he topped out at 103kph which in reality was most likely less that 100kph so was not breaking the speed limit. The OP was probably concentrating on the road ahead of him a lot more that those others dawdling down the road at 80kph playing with their radios.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,618 ✭✭✭milltown


    If you weren't cautioned under the relevant section of the road traffic act at the scene, you're in the clear.
    Take it as a warning though. National roads are not the place to be performance testing your car. If you really feel you have to prove or improve the manufacturer's figures there are plenty of industrial estates around that are pretty much deserted at night.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    so its a feckin offence to talk on yer mobile while drivin, and its also an offence to pull over to the hard shoulder/side of the feckin road to talk on yer mobile, country gets better and better dont it.

    as for the OP I doubt you've broken any laws, as what you did would not be considered dangerous by most sane people, however if you managed to let a great big shaggin traficcorp jeep sneak up on you I would be dubious as to whether you checked yer mirrors before pullin out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,423 ✭✭✭fletch


    however if you managed to let a great big shaggin traficcorp jeep sneak up on you I would be dubious as to whether you checked yer mirrors before pullin out
    It could have been going in the opposite direction....???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,209 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    Don't drop the soap :D

    On a serious note to self, never buy car from OP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭C_Breeze


    skibum wrote:
    Don't ya think you should get a bit more experience under your belt before trying to time your 0 - 60's on a public road?

    According to your post in this thread you are only driving for 8 months :confused:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055049143

    Oh yeah, because it takes great experience to floor it alllll the way to 60 mph. Lol

    Op, I'd also have my money on nothing happening. Depends on your attitude towards the guard ... as long as u dont look like a dirtbag and remained polite and apologetic (even if not sincere) id say youll hear nothing more.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭togster


    yeah soap stings your eyes.
    the mans right they like fast guys like you in prison. on a serious note you will be fine nothing will happen you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,423 ✭✭✭fletch


    JohnCleary wrote:
    On a serious note to self, never buy car from OP
    The OP may own a Vauxhall Monaro...that'll do 70mph in 1st gear! :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,209 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    fletch wrote:
    The OP may own a Vauxhall Monaro...that'll do 70mph in 1st gear! :eek:

    My boat can do 60MPH, doesn't mean I do it though :D

    (Don't think the turbo would last long)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,423 ✭✭✭fletch


    JohnCleary wrote:
    My boat can do 60MPH, doesn't mean I do it though :D

    (Don't think the turbo would last long)
    What a stupid argument lol :) A Monaro can do 170mph, I'm not suggesting that either. I'm just saying that 60mph in second gear is very achievable in a lot of cars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭pansyflower


    , it would actually be more dangerous if I accelerated slowly up to the limit imo because the cars behind me would have had to brake to slow down, or do some dangerous overtaking onto oncoming ..

    Cutting out into traffic [as the OP admits, above] could be seen as dangerous driving.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Please Note all the above classes of use Exclude commercial travelling, use for hiring, the letting on hire, the carriage of passengers or goods for hire or reward, racing, pacemaking, use in any contest, reliability or speed trail or use for any purpose in connection with the motor trade.

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,132 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    fletch wrote:
    60mph in second gear is very achievable in a lot of cars.

    That's exactly when the rev limiter in my dads '82 Opel Kadett Estate (Caravan :D ) 1.3 would kick in using second gear


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,132 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    maidhc wrote:
    I'd put my money on nothing.

    If I were a gambling man, I'd put my money on nothing too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,722 ✭✭✭maidhc


    unkel wrote:
    If I were a gambling man, I'd put my money on nothing too

    It's your best chance of survival in that particular business!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,132 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    maidhc wrote:
    It's your best chance of survival in that particular business!

    LOL, you got me there, maidhc :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭Max_Damage


    unkel wrote:
    '82 Opel Kadett Estate (Caravan :D )

    Pure old school! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,132 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Very much so, Max_Damage

    Jeez I'm getting old :\


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭Max_Damage


    unkel wrote:
    Very much so, Max_Damage

    Jeez I'm getting old :\

    I actually haven't seen a estate version (Kadett D / Astra Mk1) of those since the late 90's! Although I've seen the hatchback version around now and again. 1980's cars kick ass! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭VeVeX


    unkel wrote:
    That's exactly when the rev limiter in my dads '82 Opel Kadett Estate (Caravan :D ) 1.3 would kick in using second gear

    I doubt very much an 82 kadett has a rev limiter. More like you've reved the balls of it and it can go no more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭DonJose


    How old are you? You are driving 8 months on a provisional licence, most likely driving without an experienced driver, and you are doing this cr@p. Hopefully after this episode you will grow up and drive sensibly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    fletch wrote:
    It could have been going in the opposite direction....???
    On a dual carriageway?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Tails142


    If you weren't cautioned under the relevant section of the road traffic act at the scene, you're in the clear.
    Take it as a warning though. National roads are not the place to be performance testing your car. If you really feel you have to prove or improve the manufacturer's figures there are plenty of industrial estates around that are pretty much deserted at night.

    Meh, similar thing happened to me; well not the 0-60 thing but...

    Got pulled over by a garda on a bike for overtaking a coach that was driving in the hard shoulder, while a car was oncoming, even though the road was very wide, completly straight and I barely put a wheel over the broken white line and the oncoming car was also over towards the hard shoulder side...

    Anyway garda asked me to step out and gave me a bit of a lecture, which I just accepted cause I didnt want to piss him off, thought I'd get away with a warning - he asks for ID, I hand him my licence and he wanders off to his bike and asks me to get back into the car, comes back after a couple of minutes and hands me the licence, "Thanks Drive Safely", SWEET I think and carry on merrily.

    Week later I get home to find points in my letterbox, lesson of the story, dont bother going to Donegal. I didnt bother contesting them as I wasnt sure if I'd have to go back up to Donegal from Dublin to appear in court, where I'd probably get caught for some other traffic offence so I just paid my 80 quid and took the 2 points. Also I drive around the country, about 150 miles a day so with that mileage, given these are my first points I was bound to get some sooner or later.

    Bit of a ramble, but the point I making is expect points! :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭oleras


    Tails142 wrote:

    Got pulled over by a garda on a bike for overtaking a coach that was driving in the hard shoulder, while a car was oncoming, even though the road was very wide, completly straight and I barely put a wheel over the broken white line and the oncoming car was also over towards the hard shoulder side...

    If you were sure you overtook in a safe manner why did you not contest it at the time ? its not deep south where they will take out the nightstick and tell you your rear lights are out ? he may be the Law, does not make him infalible.

    And to OP..... silly boy ! 6 months off the road might give you some sense...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,539 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Lorax wrote:
    anyway the Gardai traffic corps jeep pulled me in not long after and start saying "what the hell do you think you were doing", etc etc, I said I just pulled in to wipe the condensation off my windscreen but dont think he bought it...
    Were you being honest, or just trying to come up with an excuse that he might buy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,423 ✭✭✭fletch


    fletch wrote:
    It could have been going in the opposite direction....???
    Victor wrote:
    On a dual carriageway?
    Does the OP say he was on the dual carraigeway section? I can't seem to find any reference to it? :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,323 ✭✭✭bennyx_o


    DonJose wrote:
    How old are you? You are driving 8 months on a provisional licence, most likely driving without an experienced driver, and you are doing this cr@p. Hopefully after this episode you will grow up and drive sensibly.
    Where does the OP say he's driving on a provisional licence?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭DonJose


    bennyx_o wrote:
    Where does the OP say he's driving on a provisional licence?

    See link below. The OP loves to boast about driving unaccompanied, and then offers people advice that they shouldn't worry about breaking the law by driving unaccompanied. This is the same fellow who thinks its a great idea to speed down the N3 and see how fast his 1.4 can go 0-60mph with his "bud" videoing it. All I can say is "Well done Guard."

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=52718587&postcount=3


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Lorax


    DonJose wrote:
    See link below. The OP loves to boast about driving unaccompanied, and then offers people advice that they shouldn't worry about breaking the law by driving unaccompanied. This is the same fellow who thinks its a great idea to speed down the N3 and see how fast his 1.4 can go 0-60mph with his "bud" videoing it. All I can say is "Well done Guard."

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=52718587&postcount=3

    I got rid of that car, look at the date on a post where you saw that. Driving a 1.6 Levin now 165bhp 20 valve engine , zippy little car.
    Were you being honest, or just trying to come up with an excuse that he might buy?

    NO I wasnt being honest. I just wanted to stop the car somewhere on a 60mph limit so I could do a legal 0-60 run ;) I'll let yas kno if anything comes from this. Thanks for the replies.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Lorax wrote:
    I just wanted to stop the car somewhere on a 60mph limit so I could do a legal 0-60 run ;)
    If it was a legal run then why were you stopped?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Lorax


    kbannon wrote:
    If it was a legal run then why were you stopped?

    Thats why I posted this thread, just cos Im young and Im male and I drive a fast? car, heres how it went

    Gardai: What the hell do you think you were doing

    Me: I pulled in to clear the condensation off my windscreen

    Gardai: License

    Me: Here ya go, (Was a provisional but my mate has a full license so wasnt breaking any laws)

    Other Gardai then checked my discs, they were all ok. Writes something down, hands me my license and my friends full license and walks back to his jeep., to eat doughnuts and hassle more young males


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,259 ✭✭✭Rowley Birkin QC


    TBH I really hope the OP gets points for this. The public road is no place to be trying this, your concentration was more than likely on your speedo and mates reactions than the road in front of you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,209 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    1) Levin? Fast? roffle :D

    2) Don't you know, everyone on boards.ie (except you) are total angels and never break the law. Either that, or they're (we're) all w4nkers. Even if you came on here and posted that you saved a grannies life, you'd still get stick

    In the future, don't post anything that even has the slightest posibility of you getting stick, cause you'll get that and a lot more


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Lorax


    JohnCleary wrote:
    1) Levin? Fast? roffle :D

    2) Don't you know, everyone on boards.ie (except you) are total angels and never break the law. Either that, or they're (we're) all w4nkers. Even if you came on here and posted that you saved a grannies life, you'd still get stick

    In the future, don't post anything that even has the slightest posibility of you getting stick, cause you'll get that and a lot more

    I'll post what I like when I like, I dont see anything in the charter saying "Follow JohnClearys Posting Guidelines" Do you?

    Also what do you drive? If a Levin is so slow like..

    [Edit] Its faster than your crappy boat anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,209 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    Lorax wrote:
    I'll post what I like when I like, I dont see anything in the charter saying "Follow JohnClearys Posting Guidelines" Do you?

    Also what do you drive? If a Levin is so slow like..

    [Edit] Its faster than your crappy boat anyway

    Oh don't worry, i'd be glad to take you for a spin on the boat, maybe sell the mad yoke 0-(60 Levin, it might pay for a fill of the fuel tank :D

    Oh, and one more thing....
    Lorax wrote:
    I'll post what I like when I like

    On boards.ie? Not bloody likely!

    (Edited incase Lorax take's it too personally and has to report me awwww)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Lorax


    Should be banned for personal abuse tbh ^


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