truth about tallaght IT???

flynnser19

ok everyone ive asked about tallaght has said it's boring....come on i wanna hear it from you guys???lemme know asap!!!thanx xxx

Motley Crue

flynnser19 wrote:

ok everyone ive asked about tallaght has said it's boring....

Ill just stop you there. Ive learned that Tallaght IT can be as exciting and as boring as you make it yourself. Anyone who says the IT is boring is obviously not engaging themselves or making the effort. Truth be told I rarely do that as much as I should, but I dont go around proclaiming the school is boring by any means, and I certainly wouldnt ask other pupils what 'the real truth' actually is.I havent a notion why youre asking this information, although I assume its because youre entering Tallaght next Semester (or this one) and you want to find out.

Id judge everything as it happens to you, when it happens, and if you want to make something exciting then you suggest to some classmates that you go for a drink after class and you be the one to suggest that people should get involved in X and Y society, or found one yourself. But please, for the love of god, dont be a sheep and just expect someone to tell you what the craic is like before youve even experienced it so you can make a predetermined decision about the nature of the college....leave that attitude at the door, youre in college for flips sake!

And Good Luck in Tallaght IT

Giblet

Brand new bar just opened outside the front gate, pretty decent as well, has some nice food too.

ANXIOUS

Giblet wrote:

Brand new bar just opened outside the front gate, pretty decent as well, has some nice food too.

Which is over priced and under staffed. it tallaght is a hole plain and simple if you compare our facilties to any other in the country dkit, wit, and dit are amazing compared to us. Our canteen is a joke also overpriced we havent even got a football pitch dressing roooms or any sports facilites. it is a very depressing plce

Oirthir

Which is over priced and under staffed. it tallaght is a hole plain and simple if you compare our facilties to any other in the country dkit, wit, and dit are amazing compared to us. Our canteen is a joke also overpriced we havent even got a football pitch dressing roooms or any sports facilites. it is a very depressing plce

Ever tried to fix any of this?

flynnser19

thanks everyone!!jus checkin if the general consensus is true!!i dont care if the course i wanna do is there i dont mind i jus wanted to hear the truth!!!it was no dig at anyone motley but thanks for your help your a star!!!!chat l8r xxxxx

ANXIOUS

Oirthir wrote:

Ever tried to fix any of this?

Yes, i no longer eat in the college, i go either home or outside. Ive wrote to two minsters about the facilties and what do they do give us a soccer pitch but not a gaa pitch (probally times idea) even though they already have a pitch even though the gaa socirty is the most sucessful in the college.

Have you done anything oirthir?

Giblet

4 euro for a pint in an external bar is hardly overpriced.

Mr. Presentable

ANXIOUS wrote:

Yes, i no longer eat in the college, i go either home or outside. Ive wrote to two minsters about the facilties and what do they do give us a soccer pitch but not a gaa pitch (probally times idea) even though they already have a pitch even though the gaa socirty is the most sucessful in the college.

Have you done anything oirthir?

If you have indeed written to two ministers about the facilities, I hope you did so in a more legible manner. They probably didn't know that the gaa (sic) Society is the most successful:confused:

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Tom Dunne

Careful now, nipplenuts, keep it civil.

Oirthir

ANXIOUS wrote:

Have you done anything oirthir?

I have in fact.

Amongst other things, I've occupied the Department of Education to demand better funding. I've sat on almost every college committee to push for the rights of the student body.

I argued against the implementation of a parking disc system in the college that would have provided only staff with guaranteed parking discs, then have students fight over the remaining spaces.

I argued for a better system for appealing exam results (a system which is to be implemented in the next year or so) amongst a pile of other education based reforms in the college.

I helped increased Clubs and Socs funding across the board, including giving the GAA club the most money per member, despite it not having the most members. I helped setup the paintball club. It had in excess of 200 active members that year.

I organised and ran fables/socials more times than I care to remember, according to what students asked for, even when I knew it would probably flop.

I'm an active member of the Netsoc, i've been a class rep every year I've studied here and I've been the Deputy President of the SU and a National Student Union Officer (During which time, I saw places in a worse state than Tallaght).

IT Tallaght is what you make it, so just cause you don't like it, doesn't make it depressing place for everyone.

ANXIOUS

Giblet wrote:

4 euro for a pint in an external bar is hardly overpriced.

The pub in the villiage is 3.80 and i dont drink pints. All the food in that place is already pre-made from out side sources all they do is heat it up.

ANXIOUS

Oirthir wrote:

I argued against the implementation of a parking disc system in the college that would have provided only staff with guaranteed parking discs, then have students fight over the remaining spaces..

I don't drive so i don't really care, however kaving spoke to someone who does care. They have informed me that people parking their car there and going away for the day. I.e. getting the luas into work. Is taking up hugh a hugh number of spaces. So bring in disc's would probally benifit the problem seeing as how it cuts out the people leaving their cars. Are you guranteed a spot now? No your not, so what difference does it make?

Oirthir wrote:

I helped increased Clubs and Socs funding across the board, including giving the GAA club the most money per member, despite it not having the most members. I helped setup the paintball club. It had in excess of 200 active members that year.

Are you sure the GAA team recieves the most money per memeber? I think that three clubs recieve the same amount Gaa, soccer and rugby. And correct me if i'm wrong but the Gaa has more members then both of them.

Oirthir wrote:

(During which time, I saw places in a worse state than Tallaght).

Care to state where? Dkit, wit, dit, lit, cit ,bit, and letterkenny it

Oirthir wrote:

IT Tallaght is what you make it, so just cause you don't like it.

Who said i don't like it?

ANXIOUS

nipplenuts wrote:

If you have indeed written to two ministers about the facilities, I hope you did so in a more legible manner. They probably didn't know that the gaa (sic) Society is the most successful:confused:

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If you have nothing to add to the debate stay out.

Oirthir

ANXIOUS wrote:

what difference does it make?

The system we argued for was to give the students first chance at discs over staff or to at least keep them equal.

I'm not against a disc parking system, just against one that favours staff over students. It's like the square blocking off 75% of parking spaces for Tesco staff then letting paying customers fight for the rest. It's a bloody joke.

At least now every driving student has an equal shot as the staff.

ANXIOUS wrote:

Are you sure the GAA team recieves the most money per memeber? I think that three clubs recieve the same amount Gaa, soccer and rugby. And correct me if i'm wrong but the Gaa has more members then both of them.

The amount each club or soc receives changes from year to year depending on their requirements versus the amount available, but the sports clubs generally receive a disproportionate amount compared to the socs.

As for GAA membership, that also changes from year to year, but I can tell you for a fact that the paintball club used to have more members and got a lot less money and had to fight for every penny, whereas GAA got it a lot easier.

ANXIOUS wrote:

Care to state where? Dkit, wit, dit, lit, cit ,bit, and letterkenny it

Bar CIT, they all don't have any kind of facilities when compared to their nearest University.

Lots of the the University linked colleges (such as the teacher training colleges) are also seriously lacking in good facilities.

It's a nationwide thing for third level, it's not just us.

ANXIOUS wrote:

Who said i don't like it?

You said the college was "a very depressing place". I don't like being depressed, so I took that to mean you didn't like it. Apologies if that was an error on my part.

Giblet

When I ran the karting society it had the most members, nearly 300 if I remember correctly, we got barely anything from the scc though

ANXIOUS

Giblet wrote:

When I ran the karting society it had the most members, nearly 300 if I remember correctly, we got barely anything from the scc though

I think it would be hard to justify giving a club like that loads of money so they can go go-carting for free.

Oirthir

ANXIOUS wrote:

I think it would be hard to justify giving a club like that loads of money so they can go go-carting for free.

As opposed to giving the GAA team loads of money to go play the sport they love for free.

( I realise it's not that fair a comparison, but non-GAA players may look at it that way, after all, small sports only get big through good funding )

Motley Crue

Giblet wrote:

When I ran the karting society it had the most members, nearly 300 if I remember correctly, we got barely anything from the scc though

But you can hardly say that more then a handful of your members were committed to karting as a professional pastime and were introduced in competing in Mondella and Nationwide Championships etc

Whereas the GAA won the school awards, i.e. they were handed money

Oirthir

Motley Crue wrote:

But you can hardly say that more then a handful of your members were committed to karting as a professional pastime and were introduced in competing in Mondella and Nationwide Championships etc

Whereas the GAA won the school awards, i.e. they were handed money

You can hardly say ANY of the GAA club were committed to GAA being a professional pastime, it being an amateur sport. (I know I know, nit picking)

Lemming

Giblet wrote:

When I ran the karting society it had the most members, nearly 300 if I remember correctly, we got barely anything from the scc though

Indeed, when I sat on the compsoc (pre-netsoc) society committee, we had to f-i-g-h-t to get even a penny of funding, despite the fact that at the time we were far and away the largest society in the college, spanning multiple departments and including students AND staff.

The sports socs had money thrown at them for piss-ups ffs. We couldn't even get funding for what equipment we needed, much less getting all our members p*ssed on a friday night.

So whinging about "lack" of sports facilities tend to ring hollow in my eyes when I witnessed all the sheer waste that the sports socs indulged in, off their own accord.


But to get back to the OPs original post, college (any college) is what you make it. You could, for example, find Trinity or UCD to be utterly, utterly boring and sh*te because you don't apply yourself. The point is, it's up to you to take from it what you put in.

warrenaldo

i found IT Tallaght great - did my 4 year degree there and have now got a good job from it.
Only reason i went to tallaght was that it was so close - i could have went to DIT but to go on bus for 1hr - 1hr and half in morning and then in the evening is not as appealing as 25min walk to college.

Social life in tallaght was great. I think it depends on the person/class.
Some classes went out lots together others not so much.

You dont have a on site campus - which i thinks kills a lot of the fun. But compared to the other ITs - Blanch, DIT - from what i hear they were all wuite similar.

ANXIOUS

Lemming wrote:

The sports socs had money thrown at them for piss-ups ffs. We couldn't even get funding for what equipment we needed, much less getting all our members p*ssed on a friday night.

So whinging about "lack" of sports facilities tend to ring hollow in my eyes when I witnessed all the sheer waste that the sports socs indulged in, off their own accord.
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Im not talking about the money that is given for the day today running of the society,ifeel that the collegeare very generous. My "whinging" is about the lack of capital investment for sports facilities.

Tom Dunne

ANXIOUS wrote:

My "whinging" is about the lack of capital investment for sports facilities.

Isn't there a plan for sports facilities in the development plan? Not that it is much use to students now, or in the next couple of years.

ANXIOUS

tom dunne wrote:

Isn't there a plan for sports facilities in the development plan? Not that it is much use to students now, or in the next couple of years.

Yes, there are some in the "plan" but i don't think that there is any mention of a gaa pitch in them. Must have a look at them. Do you know where they are ?

Tom Dunne

According to this, there's a copy available in the library.

I did see a hardcopy floating around some time last year.

ANXIOUS

Im on my when in now ill ask for it, hey'll probally hve a heart attack and ot know what to do

Oirthir

Here as well, but they look well behind schedule!

Motley Crue

Oirthir wrote:

You can hardly say ANY of the GAA club were committed to GAA being a professional pastime, it being an amateur sport. (I know I know, nit picking)

Theres more chance of them being involved at Inter County or County level in the GAA society then there is of them being in the Karting Society. Karting takes serious resource and money, im not saying professional involvement cant be done, but its a lot harder then playing for a GAA team. And I said by my previous statement, GAA team wins award for school and brings recognition, therefore getting their picture in local paper/front of yearbook etc and being given money because theyre helping the school attract potenial students and look good

Lemming

Motley Crue wrote:

Theres more chance of them being involved at Inter County or County level in the GAA society then there is of them being in the Karting Society.

That is ... a complete b*llocks ... of an argument. Compare apples with apples, not oranges, if you're going to take that line of argument. You can't even remotely compare the socs like that.

Karting takes serious resource and money, im not saying professional involvement cant be done, but its a lot harder then playing for a GAA team.

For a start, attempting to argue karting (I'm not being defensive of karting itself) along professional lines, whilst not doing the same with an amateur sport is disingenious and not a little dishonest and misleading. A more correct and accurate "fact" to make would be that you have a better chance of going professional from karting than you do going professional in GAA.

As an aside, how many GAA-soc players do you know who play on senior teams (or appear on their way to play on senior teams)?

One final point to note. I had a friend at undergraduate level in IT-Tallaght who played at inter-county level. My father has all-ireland medals at inter-county level, I had a teacher who played at inter-county level. The brother of another girl in my course at undergraduate level had a brother who was a very well known Dublin player. I'm sure that each and every one of them would disagree about GAA not taking as considerable an amount of "resources and money" as karting in terms of equipment, constant training regimes, and the travel often required to meet those regimes. In short, arguing that your activity is more important than the next guy's simply because of what you consider the benefits to be is biased and short-sighted. College is not there to provide you with sports facilities. College is there to provide you, along with everyone else, with an education (academically and non-academically) in whatever manner you choose to pursue. That doesn't give you the right to say that what you pursue outside of your academic pursuits is more important than another persons and therefore you should be given more.

And I said by my previous statement, GAA team wins award for school and brings recognition, therefore getting their picture in local paper/front of yearbook etc and being given money because theyre helping the school attract potenial students and look good

"given money". Excuse me whilst I snort at that remark. As I already pointed out, the sports socs were handed money hand-over-fist unquestioningly, and most of it got p*ssed up against a wall. Meanwhile the rest of us had to argue for every. single. penny. of funding that we asked for, and then account for every. single. penny. at the end of the fiscal year. Unlike the aforementioned sports socs. So once again, you'll have to forgive me whilst I consider your argument to be false, misleading, and completely whinging claptrap.

Oirthir

I was about to throw in my 2c, but I think lemming covered it.