Ideas to develop Angling Board

beer enigma

Ok, I'm the new Mod in town.......

JD did an excellent job in bringing the board to where it is & having checked the poll results, it seems we have real mixed bag on here.

SO......

My question is...what do you want from the board to take it forward ??

I'm talking to suppliers to try to get deals, baits, tackle & access to waters.

What else can I do to drive this forward - any suggestions, however wild appreciated.

Thanks

Andi

Blub2k4

Is there anyway to find out where people are from? Maybe do another poll alligning where people are from and what type of fishing they do, with the aim of organising a few sessions?
Is there anyone out there who could give say casting lessons for the shore guys, a few hints on fly fishing for those interested etc.

Discounts from the tackle shops sounds like a great idea.

The Hill Billy

Andip - Nice one on the discounts idea!

As Blub2k4 said - Knowing where Angling posters are from would be beneficial, particularly if they were willing to impart some local "knowledge".

(Blub2k4 - Great avatar. )

beer enigma

No problem - sound a good idea, let me think of the best format & I'll post something up later

thanks

growler

hard one this, it might be an idea to run a species competition with photo evidence for boards for the year ? even if the SAI guys wandered over it would be good for the forum to build a bit of traffic.

Maybe run a monthly comp for a species or top weight etc.?

Although my interest is purely sea/ shore and I have few and far between opportunities to do that, i'm still vaguely interested in freshwater fishing and would like to hear what people get up to on the front.

Maybe as a more techy crowd we could do the best fishing vid?
most extreme fishing location (have a few in mind) ?

most unlikely bait ?

jesus, i wish i was out trying for a cod now :mad:

pad180

hello all, its nice to see some interest in the fishing ,iv been fishing for the last ten years tried a small bit of fresh water but just couldnt seem to get the hang of the casting so i tried my luck at beach fishing and had some good luck with that.so i went a bit futher and joined a sea angling club whitch took it to a level that i never could of dream,t of .in the last couple of years iv even got the chance to represent ireland in some big competions and have fished with some of the best anglers there is from home and abroad...i fish most weekends on the beaches all down the south east coast.so it would be good to see a bit of feedback on the fishing if anybody has been out doing a bit ........it could be good if after you were out fishing to do a post on what beaches you were on ,if it fished well ,what species were there and what bait was working best .so ill keep you posted as often as i can and hopefully it might get a bit of interest .........good fishing and tight lines ...

adonis

here is a question sure to spark debate...

how can one be "good" at sea fishing.
Any time i have gone its a bit hit and hope. It doesnt seem to be as targeted as coarse/game fishing

growler

adonis wrote:

here is a question sure to spark debate...

how can one be "good" at sea fishing.
Any time i have gone its a bit hit and hope. It doesnt seem to be as targeted as coarse/game fishing

continuning experimentation over the course of your life with baits, tides, moons, rigs, weather, pressure, distances at various marks until you become expert in what is the combination of the above is the best to target certain species. Which generally means you have to be prepared for a few misses until you find a way to get consistent hits, it also means you need to have access to a range of baits and rigs to properly test a new mark.

Or you could befriend an expert or join a club to speed up the process and benefit from the experience of others.

Just when you get really good at all that, you die.

pad180

lol ....growler has said it all in that post .
in my time at match fishing your bait is the main priority some anglers go to some extreme lenghts to have there bait in tip top shape,
then your hook sizes and rigs have alot to do with it as well,
also alot of people think that in sea angling you have to cast a great distance
to catch fish ,in some cases you do ,but most of the time the fish are closer to the shore than you think, just a little flick over the head 20 ,30 yards could bring you some surprises........also try get some feedback on the venue your planning on fishing..

pad180

was down in greystones south beach last night done a few hours with a mate.some good sized whiteing there ,also we had coalies dabs dogfish and a few small codling ..the bait we used was fresh lug ,lug wraps a bit of mackeral and squid ...about a 80yard cast was enough ,the rigs we were using were just a stantard 3 hook flapper .......

beer enigma

Coarse 6 votes -22.22%
Pike 11 votes -40.74%
Salmon & Trout - Fly 7 votes 25.93%
Salmon & Trout - other 6 votes22.22%
Sea (shore) 10 votes37.04%
Sea (boat) 4 votes14.81%

The results from the poll are quite balanced. Great to see a spread across all disciplines.

Just to update - I'm talking to Anglers World in navan about a discount voucher for boards members, also Baumanns in dublin.

I'll start a new sticky thread about if people want to leave their rough location & type of fishing they're interested in - easier than a poll.

Competitions would be good...but prizes may be a problem...any ideas gratefully received...

Also....would love some input into the board from the sea & game fishing guys - I'm predominantly coarse & pike myself.


Keep the ideas coming

jd

I did a it of work on www.sea-angling-ireland.org , adding more content to the home page. I modded a script I had for embedding the latest posts on the forum into a web page

so

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put
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on your web page for sea angling ireland latest posts

and

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for feed from this board.


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Auldloon

Hello all. New to the board so little introduction is in order i think. From Clare but living in Aberdeen last few years. Trout flyfisher about average experience. I hope to post photos and reports on here and would be great if few more did similar. Anyway thats me looking forward to a good season. Tightlines.

calli

Hi another newbie here.

Anyone into fly tying here? Just starting out and hooked:D

keen

How about creating a "Reports" section were people can post up details of their last fishing trip, what they caught, were they fished, bait used etc.

We could make a standard format for peoples reports so it's easy to read and get the information. What do yous think?

Sfinn

Can we setup a fly fishing fourm.

Been around the boards at bit. Based in Connemara, i'm a sea trout junkie. Enjoy salmon and i live on the corrib from the beginning of april to mid july.

Sea trout oh beautiful sea trout. There is nothing like a 8lb sea trout on a 4lb breaking line on Currane.

keen

That's one thing I've been meaning to get into, have never been fly fishing but would love to go, I live in Dublin picked up sea fishing from living near the coast, go lake fishing also, any reccomandations on a place for fly fishing noob to go?

Have an excellent set of waders also.

coolwings

This is diverting the thread - so moderators may move this post .... but answering your question:

Look up the put and take fisheries at Annamoe, Corcagh Park, Rathbeggan, Maynooth, Rathcon. Details here .... http://www.fishingireland.net/fishing/putandtake/index.htm
These are good places to learn the ropes so to speak.
Flyfishing from a drifting boat on the large trout lakes is a good next step.
Later move onto the difficult wild trout fisheries like the Liffey, Dodder, Boyne and learn how to catch on those places.

Doc Farrell

jd wrote: »

I did a it of work on www.sea-angling-ireland.org , adding more content to the home page. I modded a script I had for embedding the latest posts on the forum into a web page

so

[PHP]
put
<script language="javascript" type="text/javascript"
src="http://www.sea-angling-ireland.org/feed.php"></script&gt;

on your web page for sea angling ireland latest posts

and

<script language="javascript" type="text/javascript"
src="http://www.sea-angling-ireland.org/feedboards.php"></script&gt;

for feed from this board.


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i'm a big big big fan of sea angling irelanf forum. But i wish they would introduce some trout fly fishing....? Maybe they have and i'm too simple with the interwebby thing to find it....?

pornstar IRL

Anyone into carp fishing might find this site helpfull
www.carp fishingireland.com

pornstar IRL

that should read
www.carpfishingireland.com

A-Trak

Following fo from the Hotspots thread got me thinking.

As Bitemybanger points out there is real reluctance (for very good reason,) to give out hotspots or fishing venues on a public forum.

I realise that trial and error are a very big part of angling, and doing reccy missions to certain areas is required but there is a sort of "poker" mentality when speaking to other anglers especially online.
No one wants to find a fishing spot found through hard graft packed the next time you go out, but surely there is a happy medium for sharing of information amongst genuine anglers.

Such as general area's on a lake or river as opposed to exact location or directions. Or what bait/rigs work etc.
Would a private or invitation only subforum serve the angling board better for this purpose?

As I've said it's only a thought, I'd be interested as to others opinions as well as AndiP's to the practicality of it.

cdsa

Andip wrote: »

Ok, I'm the new Mod in town.......

JD did an excellent job in bringing the board to where it is & having checked the poll results, it seems we have real mixed bag on here.

SO......

My question is...what do you want from the board to take it forward ??

I'm talking to suppliers to try to get deals, baits, tackle & access to waters.

What else can I do to drive this forward - any suggestions, however wild appreciated.

Thanks

Andi

Maybe you could give good markers for fishing like where species can be caught, like: Cod/Ray/Lings and have markers onto them, best time of year/tides/etc: so that when we go fishing we know where to go, ..cdsa

coolwings

A-Trak wrote: »

.... I realise that trial and error are a very big part of angling, and doing reccy missions to certain areas is required .....

Doing a reccie is one of the learning stages. You spend time by the water and see things and get ideas that help you later.

A-Trak wrote: »

....No one wants to find a fishing spot found through hard graft packed ..... surely there is a happy medium for sharing of information amongst genuine anglers......

In the past I have found that sharing the info (with the wrong people) leads directly to finding your spots packed.

Good angler friends respect your info. They listen carefully, but will not fish your spot, (unless invited) preferring to to fish their favourite place, which they have found and researched, but comparing notes and results with you later on.
This resulting catch info from different locations on the same day helps build up the big picture of how the overall lake is fishing. So it counts as researching the whole lake in a way that a single angler can not easily do.
This takes angling etiquette to work. Angling etiquette takes time to learn however.
Itr is totally different from a guy who wants to know your places so he can move straight in himself and fish there.

I will tell a newbie how to research a lake for himself, but I won't give him my research.
If we get on he may be fishing with me. General info - yes. Lifting them up to the next level - yes.
But not the keys to the candy store too soon!

cdsa wrote: »

Maybe you could give good markers for fishing like where species can be caught, like: Cod/Ray/Lings and have markers onto them, best time of year/tides/etc: so that when we go fishing we know where to go, ..cdsa

Unfortunately that is what you have to learn over time. I recommend paying a guide to take you out, and in this way you have a chance to pick valuable things up quickly. The person you buy your tackle from also has a reason to help, and may give good advice.

It is an angling mistake (just like using the wrong bait) to pass on detailed information to an angler below a certain level of experience. Information gets leaked when a big fish is caught, big fish may be mishandled, or lost lines with baits on can be left in snaggy hotspots due to use of inappropriate rigs.

Example: In one place my trips average 7 pike per day, incl 3 - 5 doubles. Guests were brought in. Big fish were caught. The word got out. Afterwards we would still catch our fish, but half of them had lost lines and hooks attached which we would remove when unhooking our own rig.
Then it got worse and we were removing two traces as well as our own hooks from the pike.
We were doing the pike a service, but there was no pleasure left in the fishing. So we went away until things quietened down.

Many experienced anglers have learned this lesson. So there are questions that I don't ask, like ... "Where? "If they wanted me to know they would have already told me. Remember: Being too pushy can cause anglers to pass you false information.

My advice to beginners .. learn how to read the water. Ask what to look for, not where to go.
Buy the maps. Walk the banks. Plumb the depths.
Meet the guys fishing in all the places and talk to them. Talk with the guys on this forum.
Then do it for yourself.
There is tremendous pleasure in finding a new place, or a discarded old place and being successful in the place you have found.

cdsa

adonis wrote: »

here is a question sure to spark debate...

how can one be "good" at sea fishing.
Any time i have gone its a bit hit and hope. It doesnt seem to be as targeted as coarse/game fishing

Well you cant be good at sea fishing to day, as we all know especially on the beaches and i mean all the coast of ireland there is just no fish any more or as it use to be, i think we all know this. {Fished out} today you really have to be out on a boat and at least 5 miles out, Forget about mackerel : i mean for good size cod/ray/whiting/ etc; well this is my experience anyways.

cdsa

Andip wrote: »

Ok, I'm the new Mod in town.......

JD did an excellent job in bringing the board to where it is & having checked the poll results, it seems we have real mixed bag on here.

SO......

My question is...what do you want from the board to take it forward ??


I'm talking to suppliers to try to get deals, baits, tackle & access to waters.

What else can I do to drive this forward - any suggestions, however wild appreciated.

Thanks

Andi

How about opening a clubs page, let all clubs reg within that page and give info about there club, fishing details etc; it would bring a lot of members onto this site as well. info on venues, dates, meetings, picts, videos, competitions, general club info, remember you would have 10 or 20 from each club looking on here.

little buda

just an idea for new people like me! i'm sure more young people would take up the hobby if they knew what they were doing!!!

mabye put up standard pic's of fish like cod, place,bass,etc to see what they look like with ther names under them + mabye short discripten of them what they eat on so on

some people like me havent really seen what they look like out side of the chip shop:D so i dont know what im catching (if any) it could be like a beginer guide, and could have how to cast, differences between couse/fly/sea fishing. hook types ,waits plummets ,how to use floats etc etc... just a rough guide to get them on there way

Popanddrop

I just started a sea version to this.

Warhammer

How about a sticky thread on Sea Fishing Charters sevices around Ireland.

Crimbo

He does have a point and can see his frustration with venues been named openly on the forum. I have witnessed the destruction to some of the venues that have been openly named on the board.These venues have had enough angling pressure without been advertised for all to see on an open forum. I think a rule where the naming of "good spots" be restricted to pm only would be the way to go.

garymaxima

Crimbo wrote: »

He does have a point and can see his frustration with venues been named openly on the forum. I have witnessed the destruction to some of the venues that have been openly named on the board.These venues have had enough angling pressure without been advertised for all to see on an open forum. I think a rule where the naming of "good spots" be restricted to pm only would be the way to go.

thank you!

Crimbo

I see garymaxima has been banned. Maybe if the mods were as quick to ban the open naming of venues as they were to ban this user some of our waters might be in a healthier condition. This is supposed to be an angling forum but if the forum continues to name good spots it's only a matter of time before these places are no longer good spots but end up litter strewn rubbish dumps devoid of fish!

madcyril

hi all,

noob to the board here as well.

I've been fishing since I was 6. that's 29 years at it now.

I fell in love with rock and shore fishing. I mostly freeline in different conditions these days.

Maybe we could have free-lining section? ... for all us tight arsed fishers

Doc Farrell

just get stuck in madcyril, good posters will respond.

great to see so many interesting posts this week.

i'd like a sticky for low importance and nonsense posts, similar to the bad beat sticky in the poker section.

maybe we could use this sticky for the moment?

i have many questions and points to ask but i don't want to waste people's time by opening a new thread for each one....

madcyril

thanks doc.

never joined an angling forum before, can't think why.

at least I have somewhere now to show off a catch! ... coz my wife certainly couldn't care less

Tinytony

Doc Farrell wrote: »

just get stuck in madcyril, good posters will respond.

great to see so many interesting posts this week.

i'd like a sticky for low importance and nonsense posts, similar to the bad beat sticky in the poker section.

maybe we could use this sticky for the moment?

i have many questions and points to ask but i don't want to waste people's time by opening a new thread for each one....

I'd say there's no harm in a new thread for each Doc. I think a lot of people just take up fishing off their own back and are generally relying on little tit-bits of information that they pick up from anywhere. It's not like a sports club where you have coaches etc to show you where you are going wrong. Fishing by it's nature is a pass time that people use to spend time on their own, but it's not really conducive to learning (or even realising!!) your mistakes!!

Thats purely from personal experience by the way.

beer enigma

I'm gonna leave it as new threads for the moment - its great to see some good momentum & new members on board (welcome madcyril).

If posting keep running this high, I'll throw it open to more development ideas...

sickofcats

Couple of things that might help Develop / draw more traffic to this area

(1) A list of Stocked Fisheries (Lakes) both coarse and Trout along with contact info

(2) Day ticket/ yearly license Prices for club controlled rivers.

(3) There are posts that appear every so often...' I want to learn to Fly Fish'..... Why dont we try and organise a day out and encourage these guys/gals to come along and learn the art of Fly Fishing, even if its a day of stockie bashing?

I realise 1 and 2 will take a bit of effort but there are enough posters around to help out with what local information thats available to em to maybe post it here...

Just my 2 cents

Mark#1

Hi.

The CFB website has some info on the fishing in most regions around the country. Here's a link to the sea fishing in the eastern region as an example:

http://www.cfb.ie/fishing_in_ireland/sea/east.htm

I agree with not giving away too much to some people, for all the obvious reasons. Most of us wouldn't even consider admitting we fish to certain people, but we may easily spill the beans to others, and who's to say the guys we trusted won't blab good info to the wrong or too many people, even by accident.

However, I've always wondered what the fishing was like from locations in my area (north county Dublin) other than the typical pier spot - off the rocks, between the islands, etc.

To be told that it could be worth trying for [enter species here] from [enter general area here] without actually being given best baits, exact spots, states of tide, etc, would be great. Only a genuine angler is going to hump his gear all the way to some of the rock marks I'm thinking of - the opportunist would probably walk on by.

So how about something that carries similar info to the cfb website - listing species that have been (rather than just thoeretically should be) caught from a location, what baits worked and didn't, what access was like, any special safety info on a location, etc.


Mark

BUACHAILL

What about a list of Rigs, how there made and what you think they work best on ??
I know its easy to walk into a shop and be handed these in packs but surely for a newbie who wants to get going a detailed section on whats needed, hook sizes, diy rig making, and what rigs they use when they are looking to target a specific fish etc would stand them in much better stead ?? , not looking for everyones secrets just a general diy set up

sorry if this has already been covered I was too lazy to do a search !!