Clamping

drivealive

Came back to car today with a big yellow sticker on my window,no clamp though. Is this just a friendly warning or is the actual clamping not starting for a while.Notice people also seem to be more worried about where they park, and worse still it seems people are showing up earlier to get a good space meaning ill have to get up earlier to get in there and beat them:(

The Bollox

the SU presedent doesn't want to make it public just yet as to that situation. He will be alerting the college sometime next week, probably on Wednesday or Thursday

Rudolph Claus

It is an absolute joke!!!!
Complete an utter ridiculous measures,, seems to have been brought in with little or no regard to thinking this system thtough.

When i first heard about the clamping i thought it was just for cars parked in the disabled spots, on corner of footpaths, in front of fire exits / emergency exits etc... WHAT IN THE NAME OF GOD ARE THEY AT, CLAMPING ALL THE CARS PARKED ALONG THE COFFEE DOCK, THE ROAD IN FRONT OF THE BAR, THE ROAD BIT BETWEEN THE 2 OLD CARPARKS ALONG THE BUSSTOP AND BASICALLY EVERY SINGLE CAR THATS NOT IN AN OFFICIAL PARKING SPOT??

We`re talking about 300cars when we add all these places up? Where do they think 300cars are going to go overnight? Its complete nonscense! None of this is neccessary. These cars parked in these positions are not a problem. The problem cars are the ones on the corner of the footpaths and in the disabled spots and the reserved spots.

Why suddenly have the parking spots i listed bove become targeted? Absolute joke.

AND WHAT DO THEY THINK THEY`RE DOING WITH THE E100 CLAMPING FEE? E100 for students parking to go to college?

We seriously need to do something about this NOW. I was tlking to the students union before xmas and they were getting a proposal ready and sending it in. I called into them again today and they said they`re organising something but wouldnt say what. But it doesnt look like they`re doing too much?? We havent received 1 single email from them at any stage?

Whats the best way for us to tackle this as we need to stamp this out now before it goes any further!!

The Bollox

the president and vice president went around campus and counted all these spaces aswell. They are going to bring it to the attention of the college that all these spaces are not officially recognised, and hopefully the problem will be rectified

Rudolph Claus

Marts wrote:

the president and vice president went around campus and counted all these spaces aswell. They are going to bring it to the attention of the college that all these spaces are not officially recognised, and hopefully the problem will be rectified

They had better be recognised! Ive no problem as most of us dont, with clamping folk in disabled spots, fire exits, visitor reserved spots and parked on corners blocking drivers views but that clamper lad putting stickers on every single car not in a parking spot(about 300cars) is a complete retard. No common sense whatsoever!

If the college wont recognise these places as parking spots and insist with the clamping of the spots WE MUST GET TOGETHER AND PROTEST AND BRING THE COLLEGE TO A STANDSTILL! We cannot allow ourselves to be treated like this. I work hard for my car and to run/tax/insure it and i will not be parking it out on the streets beside the college when there is ample room for everyone within the college grounds.

Ps: The clamping should never have gotten this far,,,,, it should never have been introduced in any shape or form until the new carpark is built(extra 150places apparently), which according to my lecturers will not be built anytime soon despite the college saying it`d be built by October in time for the pay parking.

Another joke is the pay parking they want to bring in too,,, you`ll have to pay to park legally and pay clamping fees if parked illegally. They`re fleecing the students everyway they can because of their fook-ups and idiotic waste of money on past decisions.

Atomic Pineapple

i agree completely with the arguement about the lack of space and the need for a new car park etc.. but them places you mention where cars park along the bar, coffee dock or whatever are a joke, theres no way cars should be parked there and clamping them is definatly the right idea, i mean the road to the carrolls factory has become one lane with the cars parked, same with along the bar, its a joke, its dangerous and thats why there not official spaces, a massive new car park is needed very badly and they way there goin about it is wrong but i completely disagree with your arguement for them "unofficial" spaces

Rudolph Claus

draffodx wrote:

i agree completely with the arguement about the lack of space and the need for a new car park etc.. but them places you mention where cars park along the bar, coffee dock or whatever are a joke, theres no way cars should be parked there and clamping them is definatly the right idea, i mean the road to the carrolls factory has become one lane with the cars parked, same with along the bar, its a joke, its dangerous and thats why there not official spaces, a massive new car park is needed very badly and they way there goin about it is wrong but i completely disagree with your arguement for them "unofficial" spaces

Its not that dangerous for gods sake, just drive with a little more caution. So, where do you expect 300cars to go just overnight? Until the carpark is built they shouldnt be allowed to bring in a ridiculous clamping system. They shouldnt have been allowed to build that new restrauant that we dont "really" need before sorting out the new carpark properly which we need right now. Pity they cant spend the money wisely.

The students union should never have let it come to this,,, the clampers are in now so its gonna be harder for us to do anything.

Atomic Pineapple

fair enough its not that dangerous, its more annoying than anything else..

the student union must have worn themselves out a bit protesting against the cost rise in coffee? :rolleyes:

drivealive

I see their planning a protest for monday morning. Someones also put up a cut out from some paper in the engineering section about how a judge ruled clamping at WIT was illegal.

Rudolph Claus

yeah, basically we come in and park where we normally do and then protest at the main gate???

Atomic Pineapple

is the clamping coming in on monday!?

the protest is meeting at the main doors yeh? as in the ones at the library?

The Bollox

the clamping is going ahead on Monday. Members of the SU, and other volunteers, will be standing at all the entrances to the carparks and letting the drivers know firstly that clamping is in place, and secondly if there are any LEGAL parking spots.

The lecturers, AFAIK, are not going to back us up on this one because it's a protest, and not a strike, and most lecturers are immune to clamping anyway.

Rudolph Claus

The lecturers, AFAIK, are not going to back us up on this one because it's a protest, and not a strike, and most lecturers are immune to clamping anyway.

Typical, useless fooks. Sure, they`ll have a nice free carpark when the payparking comes in so they dont care. Might kill them to go out of their way and back us up. So they`ll only back us up if its a strike, i dont understand that? Are they that desperate for time off? Hopefully they`ll get clamped on return from their lunch break and cant get a legal spot, in the meantime.

What will our protest hope to achieve by the way, are we protesting against the idea of clamping fullstop,,, or are we concentrating on getting the college to recognise most of the "unofficial spots" as suitable parking until the new carpark is built. Personally i think we should concentrate on the latter at this stage!

Can someone please tell me the reason the clamping is brought in before the new carpark is built, i mean, wheres the common sense. And why has the carpark at the windmill being blocked off, i mean honestly, where is the common sense.

Im seriously starting to hate this college.

The Bollox

well I can't blame you for not liking the college, it's not the best.

The main point of the protest is to get rid of the clamping full stop. A lot of people are also pissed off with the paid parking, but that wouldn't bother me too much.

I think the clapming is being brought in to get more money out of the students for further development. A lot of colleges in Ireland have clamping in their carparks aswell, but none are as expensive as €100 to get removed.

Atomic Pineapple

Marts wrote:

well I can't blame you for not liking the college, it's not the best.

The main point of the protest is to get rid of the clamping full stop. A lot of people are also pissed off with the paid parking, but that wouldn't bother me too much.

I think the clapming is being brought in to get more money out of the students for further development. A lot of colleges in Ireland have clamping in their carparks aswell, but none are as expensive as €100 to get removed.

I heard the pay parking will be €30 a week thats a bit much and it doesnt even guarantee you a legal spot to park!?

also heard that because of discrimination against students they have to clamp lectureres parked illegally aswell?? and that the lecturers union is prepared to order a strike if anyone one of its members gets clamped!? it all seems like a really big mess!

event

Nuttzy wrote:

Typical, useless fooks. Sure, they`ll have a nice free carpark when the payparking comes in so they dont care. Might kill them to go out of their way and back us up. So they`ll only back us up if its a strike, i dont understand that? Are they that desperate for time off? Hopefully they`ll get clamped on return from their lunch break and cant get a legal spot, in the meantime.

What will our protest hope to achieve by the way, are we protesting against the idea of clamping fullstop,,, or are we concentrating on getting the college to recognise most of the "unofficial spots" as suitable parking until the new carpark is built. Personally i think we should concentrate on the latter at this stage!

Can someone please tell me the reason the clamping is brought in before the new carpark is built, i mean, wheres the common sense. And why has the carpark at the windmill being blocked off, i mean honestly, where is the common sense.

Im seriously starting to hate this college.

typical

you dont even know what you are going to be protesting for?

Rudolph Claus

typical

you dont even know what you are going to be protesting for?

And, who are you again?

E30 a week is way too much for students, they must be desperate for money. If they spent wisely and didnt waste all the resources they wouldnt be in the mess they`re in, but sure burden the students with the expenses to make up their finances but dont dare charge the lecturers to pay.

Did we really need a new retrauant building? They must have went over budget on on loads of stuff.

event

i just think its funny that you are so outraged and disgusted yet you had to ask what was teh protest for?

shouldnt you know that already?

Rudolph Claus

event wrote:

i just think its funny that you are so outraged and disgusted yet you had to ask what was teh protest for?

shouldnt you know that already?

Yes,i agree, i should know, it`d be nice if the students union would let us know what the fook is happening. Obviously i know the main thing for protesting about, just wondering which particular thing we were going to concentrate on for Monday. Hardly the sort of "not knowing" that your trying to make out. :rolleyes:

The Bollox

were any of you on the picket line today?

I was, it was great craic. I dunno if it made a difference tho, all I can think of is that the clamping was put back one day, because there was no sign of the clamping truck (which is a pity, as we had our own clamp and were going to clamp his van)

I happen to be on the USI mailing list, and received this...

USI HAILS VICTORY FOR DUNDALK IT STUDENTS IN PARKING PROTEST

5 February 2007

The Union of Students in Ireland (USI) has hailed a victory for students who commute to lectures, after a demonstration today by Dundalk IT students – organised by DKIT Students’ Union in response to a new ban on student parking – forced a climbdown by management.

The decision by DKIT Students’ Union to organise direct action was vindicated when students secured a compromise.

Management promised 100 parking places for students. It further agreed to negotiate the overall parking policy with DKIT Students’ Union.

USI had backed DKIT Students’ Union in today’s action.

USI President Colm Hamrogue said: “Students from Dundalk IT have forced management to scale back on plans for a student parking ban that would have forced 250 students to park in local housing estates, causing misery for all those affected.

“While 100 parking places for students is just a start, it is an important victory, and represents a positive start to wider negotiations surrounding the new student parking policy.”

DKIT Students’ Union President, Niall Callery, said: “We welcome the outcome of today’s protest because Dundalk IT draws students from far and wide. For these students, public transport is not generally an option.

“The parking ban was unreasonable both to commuter students who depend on their cars as a lifeline, and to local residents who feared possible disruption caused by the parking needs of students evicted from their campus.

“We now look forward to discussing the overall parking policy with Dundalk IT management over the coming weeks.”


ENDS





For more information please contact:

Niall Callery, DKIT Students’ Union President 086 822 3861

John McGuirk, USI Eastern Area Officer 086 858 2351

Colm Hamrogue, USI President 086 858 1728

Daniel Wood, Press & Research Executive 01 4353400





Daniel Wood

Press & Research Executive

Union of Students in Ireland

www.usi.ie



T: +353 - 1 - 4353400
F: +353 - 1 – 4353450

frankdrebin

clampers are minus one soul

Rudolph Claus

Thank christ, at least the college board of management are willing to be reasonable about the whole situation and actually create the new spaces before the clamping begins. At least thats what i hope is happening! Thats not very clear though.

Hey Marts, i was on the picket line for an hour. Would have said hello but obviously i dont know you! Ive a full day of lectures on a Monday but dont start until 10 so i went down to college for 9 and protested until 10.. The amount of useless fooks that drive but wouldnt go out in the cold was unbelieveable, you`d wonder about some people. What time did ye stay out until?


Howcome about 10 cars were clamped when i came out to my car at 5? I thought they were backing down until the new spaces are made?

Rudolph Claus

@Myth - Thanks for showing us that article!

The Bollox

Nuttzy wrote:

Thank christ, at least the college board of management are willing to be reasonable about the whole situation and actually create the new spaces before the clamping begins. At least thats what i hope is happening! Thats not very clear though.

Hey Marts, i was on the picket line for an hour. Would have said hello but obviously i dont know you! Ive a full day of lectures on a Monday but dont start until 10 so i went down to college for 9 and protested until 10.. The amount of useless fooks that drive but wouldnt go out in the cold was unbelieveable, you`d wonder about some people. What time did ye stay out until?


Howcome about 10 cars were clamped when i came out to my car at 5? I thought they were backing down until the new spaces are made?

I was there from 9 to 11, and about 11:15 to 12. Eventually the morotists took heed of the signs and reasised they would not be able to park in the carpark without being clamped

littlemizz

is the clamping company run privatly or council owned?? dey r useless pricks dat have nothin better 2 do then clamp us wen we have no choice but to park wereva we can find a space! alrite fair enuf if dey r parked in a disabled sapce or blocking an entrance than yes do clamp dem! they cnt clamp cars if their isn enuf space available to park!

The Bollox

littlemizz wrote:

is the clamping company run privatly or council owned?? dey r useless pricks dat have nothin better 2 do then clamp us wen we have no choice but to park wereva we can find a space! alrite fair enuf if dey r parked in a disabled sapce or blocking an entrance than yes do clamp dem! they cnt clamp cars if their isn enuf space available to park!

I have warned people about this crap before. if you can't spell then don't post. It took me 5 minutes of re-reading to figure out what you were saying. for anyone else baffled by this... monstrosity I shall TRY and translate it:

is the clamping company run privatly or council owned? they are useless pricks that have nothing better to do than clamp us when we have no choice but to park werever we can find a space! Alright, fair enough, if they are parked in a disabled space or blocking an entrance then yes do clamp them! they cant clamp cars if there isn't enough space available to park!

I can only guess this is what she was attempting to say. repeat offences will result in a ban.

deathray 4000

Marts wrote:

were any of you on the picket line today?

I was, it was great craic. I dunno if it made a difference tho, all I can think of is that the clamping was put back one day, because there was no sign of the clamping truck (which is a pity, as we had our own clamp and were going to clamp his van)

well obviously it did make a difference but did anyone else hear the clamper showed up?
and yes that clamp ruled shame it didnt fit me though i wanted to wear it

Rudolph Claus

They`re were loads of cars clamped again today so is the above article a load of waffle or what. They`re not backing down if the clampers are still targeting every single "unofficial parking spot".

The above article is a bit ambigious, its not saying what "backing down" means. The only worthwhile thing the Board of Management can do is tell the clampers to fook off until next October when the extra space is completed.
Anyone know whats going on? Are the clampers going to be put on hold until the extra spaces are created or what.

Howcome the students union never email us to let us know what is happening or at least keep us briefed. They didnt email us about the planned strike nor did they email us the results of it.

Atomic Pineapple

from what i understand the "backing down" only refers to the decision to allocate 100 free spaces where students will not be charged for pay parking and there is in fact no change with the clamping situation except the release fee is meant to be taken down from €100 to €90

littlemizz

Marts wrote:

I have warned people about this crap before. if you can't spell then don't post. It took me 5 minutes of re-reading to figure out what you were saying. for anyone else baffled by this... monstrosity I shall TRY and translate it:

is the clamping company run privatly or council owned? they are useless pricks that have nothing better to do than clamp us when we have no choice but to park werever we can find a space! Alright, fair enough, if they are parked in a disabled space or blocking an entrance then yes do clamp them! they cant clamp cars if there isn't enough space available to park!

I can only guess this is what she was attempting to say. repeat offences will result in a ban.

SORRY for my little misdemeanor! i did not mean to offend!:eek: bad habit of texting lingo! i may run the risk of getting my head severly bitten off by asking another question but what is currently being done after the poor turn out at the protest? is there still negotiantions taking place or have they settled on an agreement of adding an extra 100 spaces?

The Bollox

I'm not sure yet. I thought there was going to be a SU meeting today, but I haven't recieved any confirmation. Last week, before the protest, we were told the man in charge (can't think of his name) wanted to talk to us, and see if he could strike a comprimise. We collectivly decided to wait and meet him AFTER the protest, saying he gave us very little notice.

My guess would be that when we meet with him he will drop the clamping charge by about €20 (the same cost it is anywhere else) and say he will make sure the other spaces are put in. IMHO this would have been done anyway, and he's just trying to seem like a nice guy or whatever.

When I know you'll know

The Bollox

okay, I am just back from the meeting (I recived a text about 5 mins after posting the last post). the story is there's going to be another protest tomorrow, from half 10 to half 11. we are looking to get as many prople out tomorrow as possible. We feel there will be much more people interested as now the whole college KNOWS clamping is an issue.

there should be reps calling to your classes from half 9 onwards telling you what's going on. Hopefully this will really strike a nerve with the college and let them know we are pissed off. Also a good number of lecturers know the score and are willing to back us up this time.

So I urge you all to join us on the picket line tomorrow.

vinnieq

Bans for Spelling mistakes on a free Website? And you're going nuts about clamping?
Check out your own spelling first:

"...but to park werever we can find a space..."

(wherever)

"...if he could strike a comprimise. We collectivly decided to wait"

(compromise & collectively)

"...back from the meeting (I recived a text..."

(Do i have to?)

Rudolph Claus

vinnieq wrote:

Bans for Spelling mistakes on a free Website? And you're going nuts about clamping?
Check out your own spelling first:

"...but to park werever we can find a space..."

(wherever)

"...if he could strike a comprimise. We collectivly decided to wait"

(compromise & collectively)

"...back from the meeting (I recived a text..."

(Do i have to?)

Did you just drop in to tell us that? Ì think you`ll find most people would rather read a post in English with a couple minor spelling mistakes than try to read a txt written one. If every post was in txt style you, wouldnt be long giving out.

I think tomorrows protest is a great idea, i was out Monday while i could, but a 1hr protest will get more of a crowd and more notice than the dribbling numbers you`d expect on a full day, especially a monday. Ive an exam from 11-1 tomorrow though. I wonder should we have an hours protest every day and that will be embarrassing for the college?

We need to make it clear to the lad in charge(Hey Marts, Is his name Dennis Cummins?) that we want the clampers out until the new spaces are built. It is not reasonable to bring in such an extreme clamping practice overnight.

Did any of ye see the garda notice referring to the towing of cars from Hoey`s lane and a reclaim fee of E200. And the residents of the local housing estates are looking to get a scheme for resident stickers for their cars and non-residents will be towed. So you cant park in the college and you cant park outside the college.

The Bollox

vinnieq wrote:

Bans for Spelling mistakes on a free Website? And you're going nuts about clamping?
Check out your own spelling first:

"...but to park werever we can find a space..."

(wherever)

"...if he could strike a comprimise. We collectivly decided to wait"

(compromise & collectively)

"...back from the meeting (I recived a text..."

(Do i have to?)

like Nuttzy said, I don't care about spelling mistakes, I care about people using txt spk.

unfortunatly, due to my inability to hear my alarm this morning (God damn alcohol) I missed the protest, were there many people there?

Atomic Pineapple

Well i live in college heights and the situation is a joke there, theres cars parked everywhere at peak times, if ya meet a car ya have to reverse or wait till they reverse, the situation is terrible, what is the college at forcing that on residental people?

some people in rockfield cant even park outside there own homes.

hopefully the protesting and the residental anger will give the campaign against clamping a more of a boost, its starting to spiral out of control a bit.

did the gardai tow any cars away yet?

i wasnt in college till 1 so missed it as well

Rudolph Claus

There was a massive turnout of what must have been 250+ people. I was amaze3d by the crowds that turned out. Looks like folk finally copped how extreme the clamping is due to the ignorance of the college to not recognise some "unofficial" spots as official until the new carpark is built. There were photographers there today too and they had to stand up on the wall to take pictures of the crowd. They shut over the main gates and there were people from right outside the walls on both sides and in behind the gates, definitely 250 or even 300people. 1 lad had a megafone which was class, some people were starting to head off when rain lookd to get worse but he called them back and they came back.

They`re calling for us to re-group in the same numbers tomorrow morning at 9 because Rte news will be down and they need the numbers to bck them up obviously. I believe we were mentioned on the Gerry Ryan show or something? lmFm had us on their news anyway.

I was talking to the woman in the students union later on and she said if we keep this up we`ll be on our way for some results, but we NEED to get tomorrows protest in the same numbers as todays. My class will all be out anyway

More press releases...

DUNDALK I.T. CLAMPING SPREE “MUST URGENTLY HALT” – USI

8 February 2007

The Union of Students in Ireland (USI) has called on management at Dundalk Institute of Technology to urgently stop clamping commuter students following a second day of protests.

Scores of students have already been clamped since a parking ban introduced three days ago ushered in a punitive “clamping spree” by Institute authorities.

Students with immobilised vehicles face a fine of €100 to have the clamp removed.

USI President Colm Hamrogue said: “The parking ban is wholly unreasonable – and the release fines are neither proportionate nor appropriate in an educational setting.

“Students at Dundalk Institute of Technology depend on their cars as a lifeline. Among the protesters are many mature students with young children and students who travel long distances and cannot use alternate means of transportation.”

DKIT Students’ Union President, Niall Callery, said: “The level of anger among the student body has escalated and emotions are running high.

“DKIT management has shown blithe disregard for the real and practical needs of its students. Authorities have also turned a deaf ear to local residents, justly concerned about the impact this parking crackdown could have on everyone who lives in Dundalk.

“As well as an end to clamping, we are also calling on the policy makers and decision takers to conduct an evaluation of the public transport needs of students attending DKIT.

“They must find practical solutions that don’t involve penalising students who commute.”


ENDS

MDTyKe

Hmm

Well, from what I've read, under Irish Law the maximum fine for clamping is €90. I noticed it on citizens information and I think on one of the CoCo sites.

Point being, isn't what they're doing illegal then?

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In regards to the spaces beside the Coffee Dock, there's no double yellow lines, so isn't it actually LEGAL to park there? I don't see a NO PARKING sign either. I say we give them a lawsuit!!!


Matt

event

what are they going to do about the 25% of students that live within 2 miles of the college yet drive to the college?

Atomic Pineapple

true event, its a joke the amount of people that do/did drive up to the college from college heights, rockfield, and college manor, i mean i know its cold but sure a 5 - 10 min walk is not too much to ask?

event

there is even a bus around dundalk that can take you sure, im think there is one that goes along the point road, through the redbarns road and through bay estate

those people should not be driving, they can walk or use a bike

i at least hope they car share

Rudolph Claus

I see the lecturers had their own little protest today. Seemed to be a decent number of them out and about.

Are these protests having any effect at all as of yet?

On a similar note, apparently E10,000 was collected in the 1st week of clamping? Was in the dundalk paper, this true?

And did ye see the sign around the college stating Dkit management **** get E50 and Clamping fags get E40 out of the E90 breakdown. Why isnt the windmill carpark opened yet for fooks sake? Whats the reasoning behind this carpark being blocked off when we`re short of space. Absolutely laughable the whole situation is. They havent even applied for planning permission yet so how will any new carpark be ready for this coming September, more fobbing off i suspect.

deathray 4000

for anyone interested there will be an open forum at 12.30 tomorrow in the whittaker for anyone to discuss the car parking situation.

Rudolph Claus

I attended, you`d seriously have to wonder about the brains of this board of management.

Anyway, nothing much has changed but i learned the following things:

1 - Apparently they got planning permission for the 150 new spots a couple weeks ago.

2 - The clamping fee is going to be reduced to E60, 40 for clampers 20 for Dkit which they said would be put into the hardship fund, at which point a lecturer lad got up and said the hardship doesnt need money from this crap as its funded by the EU something or other and that any money should go towards new building work. Surely, commom sense would have it go towards any new parking but the mind boggles after listening to that bord of management numpty`s.

3 - The college accept there are some places which hould be made "official parking places", a whole 30places to be exact :rolleyes: and these will be marked out soon.

4 - The college still refuse to allow the back of the coffee dock as parking stating that "road" is a footpath and blah blah blah. Cars can park either side of the road and thee is still ample room for a fire engine to get past if needs be, but try telling the board numpty members that.

5 - The college is obsessed with health and safety but yet dont want to know about the health and safety issues t`heir little clamping operation is creating such as people speeding down the motorway, then flying around the college and racing into carparking spaces. 1 lecturer i think it was brought this point up very well and said its only a matter of time before someone is fatally injured either by crashing into another car on the surrounding roads, in the surrounding housing estates or even the mowing down of a pedestrian within the campus grounds.

6 - The college director is obsessed with Renewable energy and said them 2 words that much i thought i was attending a discussion on a sustainable environment. :rolleyes: Yet he drives to college everyday in a Jaguar apparently and stated in response to a person that put this ti him that they wanted to change the behaviour of a "proportion" of people. Ie: students should get buses while lecturers are so important they get cars and free parking. Haha, that was genuinely funny.

7 - There is no common sense on the board of management.

Atomic Pineapple

sounds like a pile of s**t alright, does he realise that bus transport is incredibly poor to the college?

and a good point about pedestrians being put at more risk now, i dont know about the college it self but defenitly in the surrounding estates the situtation is alot more dangerous walking around now and with cars all over the place theres bound to be a few accidents soon