My Video

pok3rplaya

Ok it's up. Here's the link: [url] http://hosted.filefront.com/Irisheyesboards [/url].

Post whatever you want about it, advice, criticism, questions. I know there are mistakes in my play, pick them out.

It's 136mB .avi file. As far as I know windows media player will run it. Also I left in a bit of test video at the start (about 3mins) by accident. Please just ignore it, I wasn't arsed going back, taking it out and reprocessing it.

Anyway, enjoy.

pok3rplaya

If it doesn't work you need to download the TSCC codec. Get it here: [url] http://www.techsmith.com/download/codecs.asp [/url]

shoutman

Cheers man, looking forward to this.

I'll prob watch it in the morning, watching the American Foozeball on the telly and keeping up to date with the drogheda game.

Mr. Flibble

Watching it now. The answer is 550.

I know you usually open with any PP. Do you usually raise with PPs if there has been a limper or 2, in position? What about OOP, 66 down? Haven't come across this situation yet in the video.

pok3rplaya

Mr. Flibble wrote:

Watching it now. The answer is 550.

I know you usually open with any PP. Do you usually raise with PPs if there has been a limper or 2, in position? What about OOP, 66 down? Haven't come across this circuimstance yet in the video.

Yeah pretty much always. Maybe some unstandard situations with maniac SS limpers where I'll limp along but other then that always raise.

Mr. Flibble

I just finished up watching it there. There are definitely shadows of method lurking behind the madness. It seems more useful to me to watch that than watching a player like green plastic do a msnl video. Probably because your current ability is closer to mine (edit: I don't mean that in a bad way...I'm savage. But psychologically it seems playing good poker is more within grasp after watching that). And your style probably suits mine more than the sLA players.

I didn't see any situations in the video where its folded to you in the CO or button and you have 56s - 89s. Would you usually open with these hands vs 100BB+ stacks?

Mr. Flibble

You mentioned in the video about expanding your game to include suited connectors. Opr gave me this link about them when I asked about their merits a few months ago. Might be of use.

gilmour

Enjoyed that. I always enjoy watching other players cash game clips, as im mainly a SNG player who dabbles now and again in low stakes cash (.25/.50 donk) but obviously trying to improve my cash game. I find watching these types of videos actually improve my game and make me want to become more of a cash game player so cheers for uploading it.

Lafortezza

Interesting enough video, thanks for doing it.
You don't seem to bluff much (or didn't in the video at least), alot of what you were doing and talking about was 'get good hand, bet!'
How many hands do you play a session/week?

We also saw your Party bankroll when you were reloading, do you cash out continuously or are you planning on moving to 3/6 NL?

pok3rplaya

Mr. Flibble wrote:

I didn't see any situations in the video where its folded to you in the CO or button and you have 56s - 89s. Would you usually open with these hands vs 100BB+ stacks?

Yes pretty much always. I've been talking about it to valour and others and apparantly I should be opening with Axs a lot more too.

You mentioned in the video about expanding your game to include suited connectors. Opr gave me this link about them when I asked about their merits a few months ago. Might be of use.

Thanks.

You don't seem to bluff much (or didn't in the video at least), alot of what you were doing and talking about was 'get good hand, bet!'
How many hands do you play a session/week?

We also saw your Party bankroll when you were reloading, do you cash out continuously or are you planning on moving to 3/6 NL?

Yeah bluffing isn't a big part of my game. I will make bluffs every so often against regular players who I feel view me as a nit (second barrels etc) but other then that I won't really bluff. I think most people would be supprised how bad you're table image can be without having to make it bad through bluffing.

It was a pity I didn't get oppertunities to 3bet preflop light at all in that video. I think it would have been a lot more interesting if I had.

I've been trying to make 600NL my normal game for about 2 weeks now. I'm just not getting enough time to play and the 600NL tables are only good for a very small window of time every day. I've also been playing some 1kNL when I feel in the mood and doing ok there I guess. I have about 55 buyins for 1kNL in my total br.

I usually 8 table for an average of 3 hours a day in one straight session. So about 2300 hands a day.

ZZR1100

cant get this to load.(downloaded the codec).web page pops and eventually file not found .tried to link it directly into win meadia player but get file not supported .any ideas ..Any plans to record an 8 table session ?

pok3rplaya

ZZR1100 wrote:

cant get this to load.(downloaded the codec).web page pops and eventually file not found .tried to link it directly into win meadia player but get file not supported .any ideas ..Any plans to record an 8 table session ?

NOidea, it seems to have worked for a lot f other people though. Maybe try again some other time.

Recording 8 tables just wouldn't be practical. I'd have to record a massive area of desktop so the file size would be massive for even a short session. Plus it'd be too hard to keep up with the tables and talk at the same time.

Dantes

ZZR1100 wrote:

cant get this to load.(downloaded the codec).web page pops and eventually file not found .tried to link it directly into win meadia player but get file not supported .any ideas ..Any plans to record an 8 table session ?

Got the same as this with Firefox ZZR, switched to IE and it worked fine. HTH.

Oh yeah, kudos Pok3rPlaya! looking forward to learning something...

gocall01

Pok3rplaya, this was good.
It's great to hear some of the reasoning behind the plays.
Your auto raising 4 times the BB with PP in unopened pots is something I'll try.

I presume it was Party Poker you were playing on in this session.
You had stats on all players, was it poker tracker you were using?
Will this tool work on Full Tilt?

Keep up the good work, this is of huge benefit to players playing in the lower limits trying to build a BR to move up.

Cheers!

isaac_hunt

thanks pok3rplaya.

enjoyed watching this. gave me some confidence about moving up.

i assume you use pokerace hud. what stats do you use?

couldn't quite work out what stats the "fish" you were slapping had.

thanks again

hope you do another vid.

p.s. did you use to play on crypto micro levels?

Tar.Aldarion

Will watch tonight, thanks for the effort.

califano

I downloaded this but i can only hear the audio. I cant see the tables only the default visualisation, anybody know how i can get to see the tables?.
Also how did you record this?.

ocallagh

rounders123 wrote:

I downloaded this but i can only hear the audio. I cant see the tables only the default visualisation, anybody know how i can get to see the tables?.
Also how did you record this?.

did u download the codec?

I bet you never read instructions when you buy things from argos either...

Lafortezza

pok3rplaya wrote:

If it doesn't work you need to download the TSCC codec. Get it here: [url] http://www.techsmith.com/download/codecs.asp [/url]

Go to this link and download the codec. You then need to execute the file you downloaded and it should install the codec needed to run the video properly.

roryc

Took half an hour to download, all i got was sound it said codec downloaded incorrectly....

califano

ocallagh wrote:

did u download the codec?

I bet you never read instructions when you buy things from argos either...

Smithers: Each two-man team will work its way through the wilderness to
a cabin hidden somewhere on this mountain. The routes are
trecherous, so use your maps.

Homer: [raising hand] Uhh, I lost my map.

Smithers: You haven't been issued a map, yet.


lol your right you know! I got it now cheers.
Fair Play pok3rplaya.

ocallagh

rounders123 wrote:

Smithers: Each two-man team will work its way through the wilderness to
a cabin hidden somewhere on this mountain. The routes are
trecherous, so use your maps.

Homer: [raising hand] Uhh, I lost my map.

Smithers: You haven't been issued a map, yet.


lol your right you know! I got it now cheers.
Fair Play pok3rplaya.

exssselent work rounders!

Rb

When I first got it only the audio played, downloaded the Tscc codec and installed it and also downloaded the one that says "Download for Windows" and installed that and it worked fine after.

Good video pok3rplaya, interesting watch.

redzerdrog

trying to download it now i seems to take forever. cant wait to watch it

hotspur

I watched half of it, are there any interesting hands after that that someone can post the time of?

Fair play to you pok3rplaya for having the guts to show your game to the whole forum. A pretty good example for a lot of the players here on how to play a solid tight game. How have you been getting on playing your game at 5/10 at party?

Mr. Flibble

hotspur wrote:

I watched half of it, are there any interesting hands after that that someone can post the time of?

I thought the hand where he had 99 was interesting. Can't remember how it went exactly or when it was. It went like this:

hero has 99 in BB. Tag open utg +1. Hero calls.
Flop 447. hero check calls 2/3 pot cbet.
turn is a 7 and hero bets out.


You said in the video this was your standard line with a low overpair. Do you find people will just call your turn bet with QQ+ when you take this line? On less scary boards too, not double paired ones like this?
Would you still take this line vs someone with a 11% or less PFR% or would you be too worried about them having an overpair to you.

It seems a fine line between building a big pot OOP with a mediocre hand and not giving a free card to a 6 outer.

mewso

Excellent Video. Enjoyed it and found it very interesting and educational for a donk like myself.

hotspur

Mr. Flibble wrote:

I thought the hand where he had 99 was interesting. Can't remember how it went exactly or when it was. It went like this:
.

Yeah I caught that hand in the 1st half. Personally I can't see why he would flat call then lead out on the turn with 99 in that spot rather than reraise on the flop, but he doesn't seem like a player who will ever reraise you without a top hand.

Doc Farrell

Howdy,

well done for going to the trouble, i hope it was worth it. I watched 10 mins but theres some kinda weird time lag between the images and the vocal. I can't see the hands talked about!
I'm sure it'll be of great interest to many who are better with the 'puters than mise.
I see it's been downloaded over 100 times. It'll probably be a big hit on youtube in no time, whether you like it or not.
Are you glad you did it or is it too early to tell?

shoutman

Thought it was great, I can see how different my play in cash games would be, and how a lot of the stuff that I would do would be unprofitable, for example I think I tend to look for set value from pocket pairs far too often and should be raising more with them preflop....

Anyway was great video, I also think it would prove benefitial for me to think like you do when playing, ie. think things through as if I had to explain my actions to someone else, I find myself acting far too quickly, and immediately after thinking D'OH!

Mr. Flibble

hotspur wrote:

Yeah I caught that hand in the 1st half. Personally I can't see why he would flat call then lead out on the turn with 99 in that spot rather than reraise on the flop, but he doesn't seem like a player who will ever reraise you without a top hand.

Suppose this way the pot stays smaller as there are less streets left to bet, which must be good with a weak hand. Does give overcards a free shot though.

Mr. Flibble

Doc Farrell wrote:

Howdy,

well done for going to the trouble, i hope it was worth it. I watched 10 mins but theres some kinda weird time lag between the images and the vocal. I can't see the hands talked about!
I'm sure it'll be of great interest to many who are better with the 'puters than mise.
I see it's been downloaded over 100 times. It'll probably be a big hit on youtube in no time, whether you like it or not.
Are you glad you did it or is it too early to tell?

I can put it up on google video (youtube won't accept videos that size) and see if that sorts out the problems. I don't know what the quality will be like there. I can take it down again when this thread has run its course. Permission pok3rplaya?

fuzzbox

Mr. Flibble wrote:

Suppose this way the pot stays smaller as there are less streets left to bet, which must be good with a weak hand. Does give overcards a free shot though.

its not free if he has already charged himself appropriately.

Mr. Flibble

fuzzbox wrote:

its not free if he has already charged himself appropriately.

I don't understand. Villain or pok3rplaya has charged himself?
I mean after the cbet, if pok3rplaya just calls he's giving a free card by just calling.

fuzzbox

Mr. Flibble wrote:

I don't understand. Villain or pok3rplaya has charged himself?
I mean after the cbet, if pok3rplaya just calls he's giving a free card by just calling.

Since you dont know if you have the best hand or not, how can you tell if you are giving a card, or getting a card?

Which is more valuable? The pot or your stack?
Do you want to win money or win the pot?

hotspur

I think Fuzzbox is saying that technically the villain isn't getting a "free" card since there was betting on the flop. Let's say the villain is getting a reduced price to hit an overcard or set. Also the hero through his voiceover seems to suggest that if an ace or king pops up on the turn then he's gonna check fold.

pok3rplaya

gocall01 wrote:

Pok3rplaya, this was good.
It's great to hear some of the reasoning behind the plays.
Your auto raising 4 times the BB with PP in unopened pots is something I'll try.

I presume it was Party Poker you were playing on in this session.
You had stats on all players, was it poker tracker you were using?
Will this tool work on Full Tilt?

Keep up the good work, this is of huge benefit to players playing in the lower limits trying to build a BR to move up.

Cheers!

Yes I use PokerAce HUD in conjunction with Poker Tracker. I've played over 140k hands of 400NL so I have stats on most players. Yes it works on Full Tilt.

Thanks.

pok3rplaya

isaac_hunt wrote:

thanks pok3rplaya.

enjoyed watching this. gave me some confidence about moving up.

i assume you use pokerace hud. what stats do you use?

couldn't quite work out what stats the "fish" you were slapping had.

thanks again

hope you do another vid.

p.s. did you use to play on crypto micro levels?

The stats are:

VP$IP PFR Dunno
Aggro #Hands Dunno


VP$IP = the % of time he puts money in the pot
PFR = The % of times he raises preflop
Aggro = a measure of his aggression
# Hands = the ammount of hands we've played together
Dunno = I cant remember what this one is, I never look at it I should probably delete it


Never played crypto

pok3rplaya

rounders123 wrote:

I downloaded this but i can only hear the audio. I cant see the tables only the default visualisation, anybody know how i can get to see the tables?.
Also how did you record this?.

No idea about this stuff.

A free trial of a program called camtasia

pok3rplaya

hotspur wrote:

I watched half of it, are there any interesting hands after that that someone can post the time of?

Fair play to you pok3rplaya for having the guts to show your game to the whole forum. A pretty good example for a lot of the players here on how to play a solid tight game. How have you been getting on playing your game at 5/10 at party?

OK I guess. I haven't played many hands there and it's a tough tough game. I'd say I'm breakeven there at best long term. Maybe a small loser.

Mr. Flibble

fuzzbox wrote:

Since you dont know if you have the best hand or not, how can you tell if you are giving a card, or getting a card?

Well, we don't but we are more likely giving a free card. Its not likely we're going to get a free card if we check and villain has an overpair to 99 (well, maybe on this board but on most low boards we won't).
If we were last to act then we are choosing free card or not for one of us. Here we are saying free card if we are ahead, not of we are behind.

Perhaps its like this. If we check a better hand will bet. If we bet a better hand will just call but over cards will fold. So betting is good. Would anyone agree?

pok3rplaya

Doc Farrell wrote:

Howdy,

I see it's been downloaded over 100 times. It'll probably be a big hit on youtube in no time, whether you like it or not.
Are you glad you did it or is it too early to tell?

I wouldn't really care if it was though as far as I know it's too big of a file to go on YouTube. I don't really do anything in the vid that isn't standard for most good players anyway so it makes no odds.

pok3rplaya

Mr. Flibble wrote:

I can put it up on google video (youtube won't accept videos that size) and see if that sorts out the problems. I don't know what the quality will be like there. I can take it down again when this thread has run its course. Permission pok3rplaya?

I'd rather if you didn't tbh. I just made this for boards. If it gets out then so be it but I dnon't see the sense in helping it along.

pok3rplaya

Ok there seems to be discussion about the 99 hand, here is my thinking (I'm not saying it's right).

To refresh memory:

30/8 raises to $16 pf and I am the only caller in the BB with 99.

Flop comes 722 and I c/c a $16 bet into a $32 pot.
Turn is another 7 and I lead out for $36 into a $63 pot.


My main reason for doing this is a metagme one. I used to check call the turn n spots like this but I decided to start leading turn with overpairs because I felt that my lines for playing sets OOP were so transparant. I needed another hand that I could c/c flop and lead turn with and it wouldn't be a horrible play. Overpairs were it. I realise now that this isn't the best board to be applying this metagame logic but I didn't think of that during the hand.

If he calls or raises this turn lead I am done with the hand. So it is an effective measure of the strength of his hand. It also stops him checking behind with missed overcards and catching on the river. Due to card combination logic, missed overcards are his most likely hands on the turn, more likely then overpairs. Also, as happened in this hand, I can sometimes get value from a weaker pair or even overcards who put me on a bluff, this is a rare event obviously.

I also failed to realise during the hand this play is worsened by the fact that he has a low PFR of 8%. I'll be paying attention to this in future.

pok3rplaya

Mr. Flibble wrote:

Well, we don't but we are more likely giving a free card. Its not likely we're going to get a free card if we check and villain has an overpair to 99 (well, maybe on this board but on most low boards we won't).
If we were last to act then we are choosing free card or not for one of us. Here we are saying free card if we are ahead, not of we are behind.

Perhaps its like this. If we check a better hand will bet. If we bet a better hand will just call but over cards will fold. So betting is good. Would anyone agree?

This is a valid point also.

RoundTower

I watched some of this and think it's a really good idea. I promised to make one of these on 2+2 at some stage, if there is any interest I will probably do one at 200 or 400 PLO.

Rb

RoundTower wrote:

I watched some of this and think it's a really good idea. I promised to make one of these on 2+2 at some stage, if there is any interest I will probably do one at 200 or 400 PLO.

I'd certainly be interested in that.

redzerdrog

just watching this now and enjoying it I am itching to play even tough i promised myself I wouldn't till the end of the week (i have been on tilt for bout 3 days).
Would love to see that PLO video I need all the help I can get at that.

Flipper

RoundTower wrote:

I watched some of this and think it's a really good idea. I promised to make one of these on 2+2 at some stage, if there is any interest I will probably do one at 200 or 400 PLO.

Would really like to see that

shaydy

Interesting watching that vid, fair play.

I couldn't get the sound to work, wouldn't have minded hearing your thought process on your oppenents stats for decision making etc. I was guessing you were looking at it by the way your mouse curser would move to the stats for a big decision

Anyone any ideas as to why the sound didn't work? I downloaded the codec fine.

shoutman

turn up the volume shaydy?