Your Top 5 Quarterbacks in the NFL

Dr.Slurm

Top 5 Qbs you would want on your team.

Here we go...


1. Manning
2. Brady
3. Palmer
4. McNabb
5. Brees


Who are you guys' picks?

Pherekydes

Favre
Brees
Manning
Roethlisberger
Brady

All-Rookie top 3:
Cutler
Young
Leinart

Chucky the tree

1. Brady
2. Manning
3. Brees
4. Palmer
5. Bulger

Manny7

Brady
Manning
Palmer
Brees
Roethlisberger

evil_seed

1. Brady
2. Manning
3. Brees
4. Palmer
5. McNabb/Hasslebeck

Eaglescot

1. Manning
2. McNabb
3. Brady
4. Brees
5. Palmer

tallaghtoutlaws

In no Order.

Brett Favre (pity his oline couldnt protect him this year)
Tom Brady
Peyton Manning
Drew Brees
Bulger

DaXiS

1. Tom Brady
2. Jeff Garcia
3. Drew Brees
4. Vince Young
5. Peyton Manning

Pherekydes

tallaghtoutlaws wrote:

In no Order.

Brett Favre (pity his oline couldnt protect him this year)

Green Bay conceded the fifth fewest sacks this year! You're a hard taskmaster.

tallaghtoutlaws

They may have conceded the fewest sacks only because Favre is smart enough to dump the ball. Hence alot of the interceptions. Been watching all the packers games this week and he gets rushed so many times its not even funny.

watman

Brady
Manning
Brees
McNabb
Palmer

Coileach dearg

1. Manning
2. Vick
3. McNabb
4. Brady
5. Favre

FlutterinBantam

Brady
Favre
Manning
Garcia
Vick

J.R.HARTLEY

Despite recent discussions with board members about a recent performance i still believe Brady is the BenchMark for all modern QBs
1. Brady
2. Maning
3. Favre
4. Vick
5. Roethlisberger ( I feel he has great potential and only time will tell, and am open to other people being proposed ahead of him, like Hasselbeck,McNabb or maybe Leftwich, i will admit to being a biased steelers fan)
picking just 5 is tough.

Boomer23

J.R.HARTLEY wrote:

1. Brady
2. Maning
3. Favre
4. Vick
5. Roethlisberger

Really? you think Roethlisberger is better then Palmer, McNabb, Bulger, Hasselbeck, Leftwich, Plummer, Pennington and McNair? he MAY have a ring, but the he is more of a Game Manager then a QB

id go for this:

1. Manning
2. Brady
3. Favre
4. Brees
5. Palmer

The jock

Favre
Brady
Roethlisberger
(Brees
Manning) These two are yet to win a Superbowl Ring

csk

In no particular order:

Favre
Brady
Vick
Roethlisberger
Manning

J.R.HARTLEY

Boomer23 wrote:

Really? you think Roethlisberger is better then Palmer, McNabb, Bulger, Hasselbeck, Leftwich, Plummer, Pennington and McNair? he MAY have a ring, but the he is more of a Game Manager then a QB

id go for this:

1. Manning
2. Brady
3. Favre
4. Brees
5. Palmer

i love the way you left this bit of the quote out... to make your post look better.

J.R.HARTLEY wrote:

( I feel he has great potential and only time will tell, and am open to other people being proposed ahead of him, like Hasselbeck,McNabb or maybe Leftwich, i will admit to being a biased steelers fan)
picking just 5 is tough.

ye know that bit that said i was open to others (like some of those you mentioned) being put in ahead of him. :rolleyes:

Devrozex

1. Manning
2. Brady
3. Favre
4. Vick
5. Brees

Chucky the tree

Vick?!

Devrozex

Personal preference. Hes exciting, a player I like to watch, and so makes my top five. Sure he has his weaknesses, but hes a fascinating QB.

vorbis

I like Vick as well. Can never understand why he gets so much stick. Its not his fault his O line is terrible.

List wise
Brady
Manning
Brees
Garcia
Palmer

Boomer23

vorbis wrote:

Its not his fault his O line is terrible.

what???????

NO team with a bad O-Line could have a player rush for over 1000 yards! come on, its the play calling

Lothaar

Vick's O-Line is one of the best in the league. Alex Gibbs (Asst Coach at Atlanta and the man responsible for establishing the Denver 1,000-yard machine) is the best O-Line coach in the league, and very possibly EVER in the NFL. Granted it's set up to be a 'running' O-Line, with smaller, faster linemen than usual... but the threat of the run is the QB's best friend. Vick bites and you can't blame his O-Line. Great athlete, though.

BTW - Finally Manning shakes off that monkey from his back. I've always said he was a winner not a choker and he finally proved it. If he wins the big one, suddenly he'll be lauded as a king. Thing is, he's not any better a QB than he was in the past few years...

Arthur Daley

Manning, consistently the best over the last 9 years.
Brady, Well he has those superbowl rings
Vick, a good scrambler reminds me of Harbaugh
McNair, probably running out of chances for a ring
Brees,a bit to prove after that loss to Chicago

Rented Mule

Boomer23 wrote:

what???????

NO team with a bad O-Line could have a player rush for over 1000 yards! come on, its the play calling

It is called 'running for your life'. lol Randall Cunnngham was similar in his days with the Philadelphia Eagles.

The truth of the matter is that Vick is a QB with WR speed. HE has all of the tools to be a MONSTER at any position he chooses to play, but his deceision making abilities are not the greatest in the pocket.

He was an option QB in school because of his amazing speed, but he has not been able to make the adjustment to being a pocket passer......yet.

Rented Mule

Arthur Daley wrote:

Manning, consistently the best over the last 9 years.
Brady, Well he has those superbowl rings
Vick, a good scrambler reminds me of Harbaugh
McNair, probably running out of chances for a ring
Brees,a bit to prove after that loss to Chicago

Manning is the best prepared QB in the game. There is no single player in the NFL that studies the game more than Peyton (this is coming from a life long Bears fan).

You hit the nail on the head with Brady. The rings say it all.

Vick is an option QB. Harbaugh has no business being mentioned in the same sentence as any one of the QBs in any of these lists. He had one decent year, where even then he came up short.

McNair had linebacker size and great decision making skills that allowed him to stay in the pocket longer and take hits. His body is starting to show the wear and tear of this though. If he stayed healthy, I wouldn't ever 'write him off'.

Brees had a great game against Chicago. 27/49 for 354 yards and 2 touchdowns/ 1 interception. What killed New Orleans was the turnovers and Special teams (as well as the Bears D).

If he stays healthy, and NO can control the clock with their running game Brees is going to be in a few more NFC Championships in his career.

clk

1.manning
2.brady
3.palmer
4.brees
5.eli

no way vick belongs der and favre ffs he passed it

Lynzer

1. Manning
2. Brady
3. McNabb
4. Brees
5. Vick

Boomer23

Rented Mule wrote:

It is called 'running for your life'.

did he not have a career high 20 TD Tosses? lol

Rented Mule

Boomer23 wrote:

did he not have a career high 20 TD Tosses? lol

Yes he did, along with a 75.7 QB rating.

52.6% completion percentage
154.6 years per game average
2474 passing yards for the season.

Rex Grossman who is being called 'the worst starting QB to ever make it to a Super Bowl' has put up better numbers than Vick.

Coileach dearg

Rented Mule wrote:

Yes he did, along with a 75.7 QB rating.

52.6% completion percentage
154.6 years per game average
2474 passing yards for the season.

Rex Grossman who is being called 'the worst starting QB to ever make it to a Super Bowl' has put up better numbers than Vick.

You should also mention there that Falcons #1 WR Brian Finneran was out all season and the WRs for the Falcons all season dropped alot of balls.
Over a thousand rushing yards too. If that draft goes well for the Falcons and sign Calvin Johnson you will see that completion percentage significantly increase next season.

Rented Mule

Coileach dearg wrote:

You should also mention there that Falcons #1 WR Brian Finneran was out all season and the WRs for the Falcons all season dropped alot of balls.
Over a thousand rushing yards too. If that draft goes well for the Falcons and sign Calvin Johnson you will see that completion percentage significantly increase next season.

I realise that he rushed for 100 yards rushing. You just made my point for me that he is not a 'pocket passer'. He was an option QB in college and he is still very much an option QB in the pros.

I will give you the fact that the receivers for Atlanta may have dropped alot of balls this season (taking your word for it), but I can't believe that they would have dropped that many to significantly drop his completion percentage that much.

Michael Vick is probably the most gifted athlete playing the QB position as far as pure speed and arm strength. I am not sure who can actually rival him in these areas.

Lothaar

Arm strength isn't worth **** unless it's combined with accuracy and decisionmaking (Carson Palmer anyone?).

Pfft! Vick sucks, his stats suck, his legacy sucks. It seems to me that people only like him because he pulls off an amazing run now and then. Since when was that enough to be a top 5 QB?

Lothaar

Double post...

Rented Mule

Lothaar wrote:

Arm strength isn't worth sh1t unless it's combined with accuracy and decisionmaking (Carson Palmer anyone?).

Pfft! Vick sucks, his stats suck, his legacy sucks. It seems to me that people only like him because he pulls off an amazing run now and then. Since when was that enough to be a top 5 QB?

Exactly my point.

I do not feel that he is a Top 5 QB by any means.

jdivision

Vick is completely over-rated. No way he should be the highest paid player in the NFL. As I constantly stress to people who talk about his running ability and the 1,000 yards, the Falcons lost every single game this season that he led the team in rushing. He's completely overrated.

Top 5 QBs
Manning
Brady
Palmer
Brees
and then probably Bulger

Favre and McNair are past it, Delhomme appears to have gone backwards, Roethlisberger not there yet, Trent Green had a bad year even before the concussion, Hesselbeck not where he was

Boomer23

Lothaar wrote:

Pfft! Vick sucks, his stats suck, his legacy sucks. It seems to me that people only like him because he pulls off an amazing run now and then. Since when was that enough to be a top 5 QB?

if his recievers catch the ball, then Vick will show the league why he is really an Icon!

plus they shouldnt use his rushing ability as the first option. look at how Culpepper was used for years in Minnesota! that guy could run! but they used it to bully the defence into certain defensive fronts so they could exploit them.

Mora used the pass as a last resort, i just hope the new guy knows how to call a balanced offence

Lothaar

Vick looks to run first, pass second. Mora had a run-heavy offense... not dissimilar to the Broncos' vaunted offense of the 90s, which isn't surprising since Alex Gibbs is the Asst Coach in Atlanta.
A balanced offense is NOT an offense that is 50% run and 50% pass, this is a common mistake. A balanced offense is one that poses an equal threat of running or passing, and can do either successfully when necessary. The Falcons can't do both because their QB can't pass the ball well.

If I was Mora, even with hindsight on all his games, I don't think there's much I would do differently with that offense. Vick is a talented athlete - and a better QB that some QBs in the NFL because of his unique abilities - but he is simply not good enough to do much more than he has already done. Sure his WRs dropped a lot of passes last year. Two years ago the Seahawks suffered from the same thing, and even lost a playoff game on a dropped pass on 4th and goal as time expired... but it was clear that Hasslebeck was still a good passer. Vick isn't.

johndylan

Brady; Brees; Manning [ but which one?!]; Romo; McNair...
No-one making a case poor Grossman? Hope he gets creamed on Sunday night, charlatan.

spyder238

1. peyton
2. brady
3. brees
4. mcnair
5. palmer

Colts FTW!!

Boomer23

Lothaar wrote:

A balanced offense is NOT an offense that is 50% run and 50% pass, this is a common mistake.

yes it is, and you fell for it yourself......a balanced offence is actually 60-40 run-pass

ask a coach

Boomer23

and finally, proof that its not Vicks fault. This is a link to ESPN.com, an interview with new Head Coach Petrino.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2752463

this is my favourite part:

"Under previous coach Jim Mora, Vick basically had to go with whatever play was called by offensive coordinator Greg Knapp, even if it looked doomed when the quarterback got to the line and studied the defensive alignment.

Vick's only options were changing the protection scheme and calling which side of the field to run the play."

obviously, if thats all he was allowed do, probably due to the coaches ego's, then he was doomed every couple of plays.

geoff_nfl

#1 Favre
#2 Brady
#3 Brees
#4 Manning
#5 Palmer

Chucky the tree

Boomer23 wrote:

and finally, proof that its not Vicks fault. This is a link to ESPN.com, an interview with new Head Coach Petrino.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2752463

this is my favourite part:

"Under previous coach Jim Mora, Vick basically had to go with whatever play was called by offensive coordinator Greg Knapp, even if it looked doomed when the quarterback got to the line and studied the defensive alignment.

Vick's only options were changing the protection scheme and calling which side of the field to run the play."

obviously, if thats all he was allowed do, probably due to the coaches ego's, then he was doomed every couple of plays.

I'd wonder just how true that is though.

RadioActive

1. Manning
2. Brady
3. Brees
4. McNabb
5. Palmer

Dr.Slurm

1. Grossman
2. Everyone else

spyder238

haha grossman should have gotten MUP (most useless player)

Boomer23

i felt sorry for Grossman in the game, the kid was just out of his depth. Technically this is his Rookie season after all his injury problems, so i hope he comes back with a bang next year

Lothaar

Boomer23 wrote:

yes it is, and you fell for it yourself......a balanced offence is actually 60-40 run-pass

ask a coach

I don't understand. How could I fall for it when I refuted it? And you've STILL missed my point - there is no set ratio of run:pass for a balanced offense. The point is that it is about abilty and threat - the ability to run or pass when necessary, and the threat of both. Unbalanced offenses may run and pass in equal amounts (or 60:40, or whatever) but they can only do one successfully. Balanced offenses may run 80% of the time, but they have the ability to pass and they are successful with the passing game the 20% of the time they use it.

It's funny that you say 'ask a coach'. It looks like most of your information comes from NFL columnists who dumb down the game for the workaday fans.

Vick is allowed to call the plays? Nice. Lay it all on his shoulders so HE goes down when the Falcons sputter next season, not the coach. Good call Petrino! Hahahahahaha.

LuckyLloyd

Vick has simply not produced the neccesary body of work to be seriously considered as one of the five most accomplished quaterbacks that are currently active in the NFL. There is no doubting that he has enormous upsides in terms of athleticism and armstrength, but questions remain about his decision making, game management and abillity to lead a franchise to success. All of it isn't his fault - Atlanta have had front office and coaching problems since he arrived - but I think that the key on Vick is how he has performed in his limited playoff experience - anyone who says that he really rose to the challenge on those occassions is not being fair.


Manning has finally got there -in terms of his numbers and consistency in regular season competition it is difficult to look beyond him now that he has successfully negotiated a post - season.

However, for me Brady is the man. He is money at the crunch times, and this season can't really detract from the work he has put in his career so far. He embodies all of the intangible qualities of leadership, determination and mental toughness. He may not be the best athlete or have the best arm - but he certainly makes plays when they count.

Special mentions go to tough as nails McNair, and Pennington who, despite substandard arm strength, finds ways to win games - he is, as far as I am concerned, the finest example of how the position is about so much more than pure athletic abillity.

For me, the key is that when you look at the four players I have just mentioned - Vick is severly lacking. Because the NFL is a business, Vick is overhyped. It is much easier to package his athleticism (70 yard weaving runs through flailing defenders) into something marketable - than it is to package the mental toughness and focus of Tom Brady. Vick has great potential and may yet be great - but right now he is a player that has yet to live up to great expectations and fully adapt from being an option QB at the college level.