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Engineering in Trinity College

  • 29-12-2006 7:48pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭


    Hi there,

    Looking to do engineering next year after the leaving. Just wondering what your thoughts are on Trinity college for engineering?

    Good? Awful? Not Bad?

    I know UCD is excellent for engineering, but its just i hate the place. It's simple as that. i just dont like it, and im looking for alternatives.

    Thanks for any help.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 612 ✭✭✭JoseJones


    Haven't heard great things about Engineering in TCD, how about UL? Have you been to the open days there?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Trinity College Dublin is the best place in the world to do engineering and UL sucks. I'm not going to qualify that, I'm just going to say it like it's fact.

    Now that thats out of the way, it would be nice if people limited responses to actual experience of the course, rather than the usual bull.

    irishguy00, The course is common in the first two years. Are you sure this is what you want? This feature (unique to trinity in ireland afaik) is equally the thing people praise and critise the most about the course. It's why allot of people go elsewhere. In the first two years you do nearly as much of civil, mech, computer and electronic engineering as you would in a direct entry course. For instance that means if you want to be a civil engineer you'll spend two years learning programming. Allot of people can't handle the work load of basically doing 4 courses. The course is also four years long as opposed to 3 years in some other colleges.

    You specalise in Third year into which ever type of engineering you want. After that each is very different. Usually when places like UCD,UL, or where ever get reputations as being "great for engineering" it due to being great at one particular type of engineering. i.e. UCD is ment to be very good for civil, and UL for mechanical. So really you have to look at universities from the point of view of whats the best for you for what you'll end up doing. I allways wanted to do Computer and electronic Engineering, and Trinity was the only university in dublin at the time offering a suitable degree for me, so I went for it, and it's been great, and was really the right choice for me. That what it comes down to, the right choice for you.

    btw it's a course in trinity, so for every person that actually knows something, you're going to get 2 more trying to run the course in the ground just for the sake of it, without much of a clue about it.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    I did engineering there and really liked it.

    Your ucd and tcd engineering degrees are more theory based than say DIT engineering whihc would be more practical based but at the end of the day you will be solving the same problems and each course gives you the skills to do it.

    A common thing in all colleges these days is budget cut backs. When I was there it affected (or began to affect) things like labs and tutorials but at the end of the day I'm working for the last 2 and half years and I havent been affected in the real world.

    The lecturers in trinity are of over all. You have got some very good ones like Dr Farrell who is know throught out Ireland and would be best in what he does. Dr OMahony who is in charge of Transport 21 (I think she is a shit lecture) but people like here) and then with any other course you have the crap people!

    If it was me and I had to make the choice again it be Trinity again


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    JoseJones wrote:
    Haven't heard great things about Engineering in TCD, how about UL? Have you been to the open days there?


    What things have you heard about Trinity?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Probably the usual bull


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    LiouVille wrote:
    Probably the usual bull


    Exactly. Unless you have done the course I dont think you can really comment.

    I did do engineering in UCD so I cant say anything about it as I've nothing to back it up on. All I can say is that the people I work with who are from UCD do just as good a job I do


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭irishguy00


    Thanks for all the feedback. I knew beforehand how the system works in Trinity engineering, which i think would benefit me as i do not know which type of engineering i would enjoy the most. i have an idea, but this could change after doing it for two years!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 592 ✭✭✭poobum


    ucd has an option of undenominated engineering where first year you do every subject and specialise going into second year, in a first year engineer in ucd althought i knew what i wanted to do so i chose chemical engineering not undemoniated, if that course appeals to you you should chose ucd as trinity dont have it! they do all other engineerings but not chemical! iv alot of friends in first year in tcd and they like it there...
    only thing ill say for ucd is it has better engineering facilities then tcd! and i personally prefer the atmosphere in ucd...i was going to go to tcd cos it was easier to access by bus from my home(until i had decided on chemical anyway) but i went to a few of the lectures in tcd and it just...it was so serious! there was no fun or anything i wudnt survive in an environment like dat tbh! i rathered ucd's atmosphere where u can have some fun along the way! also ucds reputation for engineering was better then tcd as far as i could figure out at time(this may not be true just what i heard)
    my advice, go to both tcd and ucd and sit in on some lectures! figure out which atmosphere you prefer etc!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    poobum wrote:
    ucd has an option of undenominated engineering where first year you do every subject and specialise going into second year, in a first year engineer in ucd althought i knew what i wanted to do so i chose chemical engineering not undemoniated, if that course appeals to you you should chose ucd as trinity dont have it! they do all other engineerings but not chemical! iv alot of friends in first year in tcd and they like it there...
    only thing ill say for ucd is it has better engineering facilities then tcd! and i personally prefer the atmosphere in ucd...i was going to go to tcd cos it was easier to access by bus from my home(until i had decided on chemical anyway) but i went to a few of the lectures in tcd and it just...it was so serious! there was no fun or anything i wudnt survive in an environment like dat tbh! i rathered ucd's atmosphere where u can have some fun along the way! also ucds reputation for engineering was better then tcd as far as i could figure out at time(this may not be true just what i heard)
    my advice, go to both tcd and ucd and sit in on some lectures! figure out which atmosphere you prefer etc!

    You only went to a few lectuers in Trinity. I went for 4 years of lectuers and didnt find it too serious at all. Infact I had a ball along with most of the people in my group.

    I think the reputation of both colleges is very high both in Ireland and the rest of the world (I got a job in America based on the fact that the two colleges my boss knew about in Ireland were Trinity & UCD).

    Trinity doesnt have chemical engineering so if you were interested in that UCD is the way to go.

    In what way does UCD have better engineering facilities to Trinity?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭Aero787


    LiouVille wrote:
    Usually when places get reputations as being "great for engineering" it due to being great at one particular type of engineering. i.e. UCD is ment to be very good for civil, and UL for mechanical

    UCD is also really good for mech eng, as well as someother disciplines.
    UL is quality for IT and electronics engineering too.
    CIT is very good for mech (and elec). Civil/Structural hasn't got the same rep but there are still guys going to top universities for MEng courses after they graduate.

    At the end of the day, most engineering courses in Ireland are very good, and your success after graduation will depend on how you applied yourself. Knowledge is a commodity. Unless there is a strong emphasis on a particular aspect of engineering which interests you, most courses won't hinder or help you more than others. Everyone is in the same boat. Choose the discipline/course that you think you will enjoy the most.

    With respect to not liking a college for one reason or another, I completely know what you mean. If you don't like a particular college, don't go there. The atmosphere at a college is just as important as the academic side because if you're not happy there, you won't perform to the best of your ability.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Aero787 wrote:
    LiouVille wrote:
    Usually when places get reputations as being "great for engineering" it due to being great at one particular type of engineering. i.e. UCD is ment to be very good for civil, and UL for mechanical

    UCD is also really good for mech eng, as well as someother disciplines.
    UL is quality for IT and electronics engineering too.
    CIT is very good for mech (and elec). Civil/Structural hasn't got the same rep but there are still guys going to top universities for MEng courses after they graduate.

    At the end of the day, most engineering courses in Ireland are very good, and your success after graduation will depend on how you applied yourself. Knowledge is a commodity. Unless there is a strong emphasis on a particular aspect of engineering which interests you, most courses won't hinder or help you more than others. Everyone is in the same boat. Choose the discipline/course that you think you will enjoy the most.

    With respect to not liking a college for one reason or another, I completely know what you mean. If you don't like a particular college, don't go there. The atmosphere at a college is just as important as the academic side because if you're not happy there, you won't perform to the best of your ability.

    Very well put


  • Posts: 16,720 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Just for your own interest, here's a thread on TCD Engineering and what it is like. Goes off on a bit of a tangent, but there's a good bit of advice there.

    And btw I'm final year Civil Engineering in Trinity.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=52101333


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 365 ✭✭DJDC


    Most people across industry and academia would have to say that UCD is a better place to study engineering than Trinity,generally for the following reasons.
    1)Superior Intellect of Entrants(Undenom eng in UCD is about 50 CAO points higher then Trinity eng)
    2)Superior Facilities
    3)Better academic staff

    I would also rate UCC,QUB and UL above trinity in terms of engineering.For arts and certain areas of science e.g human genetics,trinity is far superior.

    But you seem to have your mind set on Trinity so go for it.Its still a great degree and you have loads options once you finish. :)


  • Posts: 16,720 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    DJDC wrote:
    1)Superior Intellect of Entrants(Undenom eng in UCD is about 50 CAO points higher then Trinity eng)

    This is an argument which could go on 'til the cows come home, but I'll be brief and say that's a bit of a stupid remark to say and leave it for another thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Voodu Child


    poobum wrote:
    and i personally prefer the atmosphere in ucd...i was going to go to tcd cos it was easier to access by bus from my home(until i had decided on chemical anyway) but i went to a few of the lectures in tcd and it just...it was so serious! there was no fun or anything i wudnt survive in an environment like dat tbh! i rathered ucd's atmosphere where u can have some fun along the way!
    Thats about the stupidest career advice ive ever heard, and as well as being stupid advice, it doesnt have any factual basis. You'd be better off in Willy Wonkas School of Engineering by the sounds of it.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    DJDC wrote:

    1)Superior Intellect of Entrants(Undenom eng in UCD is about 50 CAO points higher then Trinity eng)


    Stupid remark. Do some research on the CAO and get back to us.
    DJDC wrote:


    2)Superior Facilities


    In what way? Anything to back it up?
    DJDC wrote:


    3)Better academic staff

    In what way? Anything to back it up?

    I've got 3 names for you.

    Dr West
    Dr Farrell
    Prof. O'Mahony

    3 of the best in Ireland if not Europe in their fields

    This is the typical crap you get from a fan boy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    If UCD students are so smart, why can't they follow simple instructions? The guy asked about trinity, and all these people that haven't done the course have started to prattle on about UCD.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 592 ✭✭✭poobum


    Thats about the stupidest career advice ive ever heard, and as well as being stupid advice, it doesnt have any factual basis. You'd be better off in Willy Wonkas School of Engineering by the sounds of it.
    hey calm down! i wasnt trying to just bash trinity! i was just saying go to a few lectures in all the colleges with engineering and scope it out! you can generally get an impression if you would like it there within a while of being there! both degrees in ucd and tcd are highly recogonised(and dit etc but those 2 seem to be the ones being discussed mainly here so ill refer to them) i didnt like ucd, i have a big anti-oompa loompa thing personally but after attending lectures in both i prefered ucd! then again thats just me! just i woudnt close off a whole college on you supposedly hating it...when the reason probably isnt significant at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 592 ✭✭✭poobum


    kearnsr wrote:
    You only went to a few lectuers in Trinity. I went for 4 years of lectuers and didnt find it too serious at all. Infact I had a ball along with most of the people in my group.

    I think the reputation of both colleges is very high both in Ireland and the rest of the world (I got a job in America based on the fact that the two colleges my boss knew about in Ireland were Trinity & UCD).

    Trinity doesnt have chemical engineering so if you were interested in that UCD is the way to go.

    In what way does UCD have better engineering facilities to Trinity?
    firstly sorry for doublepost i nvr figured out how to quote 2 different people in one post :rolleyes:

    my impression of it being very serious could be wrong! but it is also what i hear from a few of the people i know doing the course, but others love it! i personally just found it to serious! or it seemed that way to me anyway.

    and ucd has got better facilities, the engineering building is much newer then trinitys etc...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭Time Magazine


    poobum wrote:
    firstly sorry for doublepost i nvr figured out how to quote 2 different people in one post :rolleyes:
    And you say you're doing Engineering in UCD, right?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 RudolfDiesel


    Yes! To everything!!
    But really I wouldn’t get caught up in rivalries BS between colleges. It’s the ability of your course to be recognised by the IEI (etc) and to eventually gain chartership. I’m pretty sure that Trinity is recognised (make sure), I know DIT’s course is (I’m a final yr mech). As some guy mentioned above, research the courses thoroughly. Colleges like CIT perform a lot of dissertations like Bio-medical, so look into it.

    As mentioned, as long as the course is recognised by a quality professional body like the IEI, it’s up to the graduate to make what they can of their qualification


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    poobum wrote:

    and ucd has got better facilities, the engineering building is much newer then trinitys etc...


    I dont know how old UCD's engineering building is but Trinitys is only about 10 years old. They still have the Red Brick building which has the soil labs and then the new engineering building beside it that does alot of the concrete testing in it.

    I’m pretty sure that Trinity is recognised

    It is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 592 ✭✭✭poobum


    kearnsr wrote:
    I dont know how old UCD's engineering building is but Trinitys is only about 10 years old. They still have the Red Brick building which has the soil labs and then the new engineering building beside it that does alot of the concrete testing in it.
    ucd is newer and they are also constructing a new building for civil and mechanical engineering(def about civil not 100% its mechanical...could could be structural architecture engineering or something like that)

    oh n rudolf diesel trinity is recogonised by IEI

    and ibid, what would my not knowing how to post 2 quotes in single text got to do with me being a good engineer? ur just being stupid!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    poobum wrote:

    ucd is newer and they are also constructing a new building for civil and mechanical engineering

    Isnt that just class rooms? Or is it labs etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 592 ✭✭✭poobum


    to my knowledge it is evrything related to those subjects, its being built because earlsford terrace is being closed down after this year so they needed more space and there was demand for facilities. i just put this into google and i cant find anything on it now...but i was told this somewhere i just cant remember where...but you would be best looking into this yourself, as i wouldnt want to lead you astray on chance im not right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    So what like, Trinity is getting a new civil engineering building as well. Work starts soon. Tbh it's whats in the buildings that counts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 592 ✭✭✭poobum


    LiouVille wrote:
    So what like, Trinity is getting a new civil engineering building as well. Work starts soon. Tbh it's whats in the buildings that counts.

    very true, i never looked into this, if you are looking at this ucd and trinity both provide lists of their equipments on their sites able to be downloaded you could easily compare if you wanted!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    What Trinity Have


    Research Facilities in the Department
    Research Areas

    At present there are a number of research groups that operate in the department. Further information about the work being carried out by staff and postgraduates can be seen here: Research Topics

    Odometers TriAxial Cell Rheology Measurement System
    Research Facilities

    The New Laboratory/Teaching Block was completed in 1992. This is in addition to existing facilities, and contains some of the most advanced research and testing equipment in Ireland, especially in experimental structures and soil mechanics, together with advanced facilities in engineering surveying, environmental and water engineering, complemented with the most up-to-date computer facilities.

    Specifically, the new building houses:

    - two 7m by 5m 300 tonne capacity testing frames
    - a 100 tonne capacity 6 m high dynamic 'push-pull' rig
    - a Losenhausen 300 tonne concrete testing machine
    - impact testing facilities over a drop of 16m
    - calibration chamber
    - other storage and testing equipment for structural and highway engineering


    Thats not even a complete list. They have other stuff like the equipment up stairs in the red brick building like the piece of equipment that shows back water curves etc. They have lots of other hydro stuff up there as well.

    This is just for civil and I've used most of the above at some stage.

    I'm sure mec and elec has some of their own gear. Infact I know they do!

    Maybe some one could post what UCD has


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,617 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    who knew the posts would end up the way the have??
    not much of a surprise.

    to be honest OP if you hate UCD why even consider it?
    I did my degree there, fine place, decent course. Did post grad work in Trinity also a grand place.

    Ignore the posts above about what employers think, employers couldn't give a rats arse where you went to college. Getting an engineering degree is handy enough for anyone who can add, its experience that counts.

    The only thing I would say is that TCD seems to be having trouble running the elec option, i heard a rumour that only one person chose it this year? So possibly if elec is something you may be interested in look at DCU assuming UCD isn't somewhere you want to go. For Mech/Manufacturing/Civil/Structural add DIT to your list (assuming you are sticking with Dublin)

    Look at things like how easy will it be to get to college, what the social side is like etc etc. don't worry about equipment and nice lecture halls. you are never going to use 99% of the equipment and hard seats keep you awake..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    daveym wrote:
    to be honest OP if you hate UCD why even consider it?

    Where did he say that. He outlined his main reason as not being sure what coruse he wants to do.
    The only thing I would say is that TCD seems to be having trouble running the elec option, i heard a rumour that only one person chose it this year? So possibly if elec is something you may be interested in look at DCU assuming UCD isn't somewhere you want to go. For Mech/Manufacturing/Civil/Structural add DIT to your list (assuming you are sticking with Dublin)

    Your wrong. How can anybody post up information like this? So blindingly wrong it's amazing. I heard from a scource that all the Girls in UCD have STI's, better not go their lol.

    There are 30 engineering students approx in third year taking courses in the electronic department about half of them are split across computer and electronics with the remainder either pure elec or pure computer eng. In my year there's about 15 doing pure elec. I love the way you said "problem running the elec option", it highlights how little you know about the course. They have no choice but to run the course. There is no quota system, the course's get run regardless of numbers.

    tbh, please leave the thread and not post anymore useless crap.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    LiouVille wrote:

    I heard from a scource that all the Girls in UCD have STI's, better not go their lol.


    Thats true isnt it?

    Courses go through phases. There was 120 people in my class when I did civil. The year before there was 40. During the .com boom elec and computers had high numbers.


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,617 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    LiouVille wrote:
    Where did he say that. He outlined his main reason as not being sure what coruse he wants to do.
    in the first post you fool.
    LiouVille wrote:
    Your wrong. How can anybody post up information like this? So blindingly wrong it's amazing. I heard from a scource that all the Girls in UCD have STI's, better not go their lol.

    There are 30 engineering students approx in third year taking courses in the electronic department about half of them are split across computer and electronics with the remainder either pure elec or pure computer eng. In my year there's about 15 doing pure elec. I love the way you said "problem running the elec option", it highlights how little you know about the course. They have no choice but to run the course. There is no quota system, the course's get run regardless of numbers.

    tbh, please leave the thread and not post anymore useless crap.

    firstly, who do you think you are bossing around? i'll post what i want, where I want.
    mods permitting of course.

    secondly I didn't say they have a problem running the course even though you have quoted me as saying it for some reason, I said they have trouble. As in it isn't popular and won't be viable long term unless things improve.

    My sources are in the engineering department, I am happy with what I posted. I took my masters in TCD and have many contacts there in the dept. If you have better info on how many people have indicated they want to do the elec option for the coming year then please post it. If not don't spout on about how wrong the information is when you have nothing to contradict it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    A getting personal, how like a UCD student.
    firstly, who do you think you are bossing around?

    Some guy without a clue.
    secondly I didn't say they have a problem running the course even though you have quoted me as saying it for some reason, I said they have trouble. As in it isn't popular and won't be viable long term unless things improve.
    having trouble running the elec option


    My sources are in the engineering department, I am happy with what I posted. I took my masters in TCD and have many contacts there in the dept. If you have better info on how many people have indicated they want to do the elec option for the coming year then please post it. If not don't spout on about how wrong the information is when you have nothing to contradict it.

    There is no such thing as the engineering department. So I've no idea what fictional person has been pulling your leg, or where you got your fictional masters. There's an electronic department, civil department, and a mechanical department all under the school of engineering. I've the names of everyone that entered into pure elect this year, there's 11 names. What you're ****ing on about is the number of people doing it next year. I can tell you now you're either lying or being lied too, since second years only decide on what stream they enter at the end of the academic year, which is june. Anybody thats done this course will back me up on this fact. I fail to see how it matters anyway since, 1 or 100 the courses are run regardless.

    Now please, let those that actually know what they are talkign about continue posting.


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,617 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    LiouVille wrote:
    A getting personal, how like a UCD student.



    Some guy without a clue.









    There is no such thing as the engineering department. So I've no idea what fictional person has been pulling your leg, or where you got your fictional masters. There's an electronic department, civil department, and a mechanical department all under the school of engineering. I've the names of everyone that entered into pure elect this year, there's 11 names. What you're ****ing on about is the number of people doing it next year. I can tell you now you're either lying or being lied too, since second years only decide on what stream they enter at the end of the academic year, which is june. Anybody thats done this course will back me up on this fact. I fail to see how it matters anyway since, 1 or 100 the courses are run regardless.

    Now please, let those that actually know what they are talkign about continue posting.


    it's pretty clear you don't know what you are talking about so why are you posting? I'd consider anyone who works in any of the engineering faculty to be part of the engineering dept, if you would prefer I said engineering school thats fine. makes no difference except to you I'd imagine..

    I said the number of people who had indicated what they might do, not that they had chosen, can you not read?

    Of course it matters, who wants to do a course on their own, or even with 11? Most sane people would rather do a course with a decent size of class.

    I've nothing against Trinity, as I said I did my Masters there (although apparently it was fictional according to you? why exactly?). However I wouldn't recommend someone going there if they already knew electronics was what they wanted to do...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    You're making up stuff, it's very apparent. There's 200 on average in each year. You made out that only one second year had decided to do elec when the fact is nobody is in a position to say how many will do it, as they haven't even been asked yet. It's time you admitted what you're up to.

    You don't understand what way the course is even structured. There is no engineering department. There is a major difference between a department and a school. If you had a clue you would realise it.


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  • Subscribers Posts: 16,617 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    LiouVille wrote:
    You're making up stuff, it's very apparent. There's 200 on average in each year. You made out that only one second year had decided to do elec when the fact is nobody is in a position to say how many will do it, as they haven't even been asked yet. It's time you admitted what you're up to.

    You don't understand what way the course is even structured. There is no engineering department. There is a major difference between a department and a school. If you had a clue you would realise it.

    why would I make it up? How can I be clearer, speaking to people who work in the engineering department they believe there could be as little as one person going into elec. You say it will be at least 11, you also say it doesn't matter so why do you care either way?

    What am I up to? As far as I know I am not up to anything but I'm sure you know better? Are you some kind of crazed conspiracy junkie? The weird obsession you have with calling the engineering department a 'school' because it makes a major difference isn't normal either. Maybe you should stop posting before you put anyone off going to anywhere you think is good??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭irishguy00


    I do hate UCD. Its one of the ugliest colleges i have ever seen.

    Also, once again thanks for all your advice, although now it seems there is a slagging match between all UCD students and TCD students.

    I've made my decision, and have stuck down undenominated engineering in TCD as my first choice. All i need now is to study.

    I made my decision on the TCD open day. T'was one of the best organised open days i've been to. Got a whole crap load of info, and based my decision off that. And the atmosphere in trinity was great. I liked being in the centre of things.

    I'm all exited now!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭Aero787


    "it seems there is a slagging match between all UCD students and TCD students"

    Just between a special few who like to stir things up.

    Well done on deciding on your course.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Listen, follow this link Faculty of Engineering and Systems Sciences

    I never said 11 people will pick elec, I said that is how many are doing pure elec at the moment (at least started) in third year. There may be one or none doing it next year, theres two more terms left this year. The departments haven't even started to try and attract students yet. Nobody has done any type of survey. I find it unlikely anybody told you anything about the number of people going into each stream, let along more that one person as you claim(sources). As to why I care, well I think people should make an informed decision on what college they go to. By posting fiction as fact you rob them of the oppertunity to make informed decisions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    irishguy00 wrote:
    I made my decision on the TCD open day. T'was one of the best organised open days i've been to. Got a whole crap load of info, and based my decision off that. And the atmosphere in trinity was great. I liked being in the centre of things.

    I'm all exited now!

    The hall where the engineering school held it's part of the open day is located in the electronic's department. Nice building.

    Anyway, good choice. If you need any advice feel free to drop me a PM.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 592 ✭✭✭poobum


    irishguy00 wrote:
    I do hate UCD. Its one of the ugliest colleges i have ever seen.

    Also, once again thanks for all your advice, although now it seems there is a slagging match between all UCD students and TCD students.

    I've made my decision, and have stuck down undenominated engineering in TCD as my first choice. All i need now is to study.

    I made my decision on the TCD open day. T'was one of the best organised open days i've been to. Got a whole crap load of info, and based my decision off that. And the atmosphere in trinity was great. I liked being in the centre of things.

    I'm all exited now!
    aww i think its purty,,,(i dont realy some buildings are nice but have u ever seen the science one? where first year engineers basically live...its horrible!)
    congrats do on deciding!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    I give you, the museum building.
    museum_building.jpg
    int3.jpg
    dsc00031.jpg
    dsc00024.jpg

    Yep, nice buildings. btw this is the school's HQ, you'll have many tutorials and lectures in this building.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    LiouVille wrote:
    I give you, the museum building.
    museum_building.jpg
    int3.jpg
    dsc00031.jpg
    dsc00024.jpg

    Yep, nice buildings. btw this is the school's HQ, you'll have many tutorials and lectures in this building.


    Ah the memories!

    The schools office is in there. Good old Tamara. Very nice lady!

    You also share the space with the geologists (sp) as well. Some of them can be very nice looking but some of them can smell alot worse than your fellow engineering students.

    Just a quick hint. To the right of the stairs underneath the actual staits there is a hole and a great place for stashing stuff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 fiddlestick


    daveym wrote:
    why would I make it up? How can I be clearer, speaking to people who work in the engineering department they believe there could be as little as one person going into elec. You say it will be at least 11, you also say it doesn't matter so why do you care either way?

    What am I up to? As far as I know I am not up to anything but I'm sure you know better? Are you some kind of crazed conspiracy junkie? The weird obsession you have with calling the engineering department a 'school' because it makes a major difference isn't normal either. Maybe you should stop posting before you put anyone off going to anywhere you think is good??

    I think the point that we are all trying to make here is that MEE are having trouble attracting students into third year, which is not at all unreasonable given recent scare / true stories with regards to employment situations.
    As anyone who is connected to the dept. will know there are certain pessimistic people who think there will only be one or two in pure electronics next year. I would doubt this somehow. As things stand the employment market has picked up dramatically in the last 18/24 months and not so long from now there will be a net shortage of suitable Electronic graduates coming out from college...leading to plenty of jobs and the cycle will start again....That and the 5 years accredation should safe guard the numbers in MEE.
    As for having 11 in your class...thats not so bad at all..there was only 4 in the class 2 years previous to you guys. Imagine what its like on a friday morning when only half your class turns up!!
    For the original poster, I did my Engineering degree in trinity and I would whole heartedly recommend it to a school leaver.
    If you would like any advice further advice feel free to pm me, I would be happy to help.

    Edit:...and then I read the rest of the thread...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 218 ✭✭book smarts


    Be warned there is an unwritten rule - that if you repeat a year, you get no more than a 3rd class honour final. Ssssshhhhhhh.......it's a secret


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Be warned there is an unwritten rule - that if you repeat a year, you get no more than a 3rd class honour final. Ssssshhhhhhh.......it's a secret

    This is incorrect. Please try and post factual information and not take the piss.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 218 ✭✭book smarts


    This is incorrect. Please try and post factual information and not take the piss.

    I said it was unwritten- I should have specified final year repeat. And I heard this from a faculty member. I heard (unoffficially) that they meet together like freemasons to determine a students' future- if he's a dosser, he hasn't a hope. They don't want dossers as academics.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Generally, In Tirnity anyway, If you sit the exams in final year, you're not allowed repeat, without a damn good reason.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Boston wrote:
    Generally, In Tirnity anyway, If you sit the exams in final year, you're not allowed repeat, without a damn good reason.


    When I was doing my finals a girls granny died just before them and she had the choice of either doing the exams hoping she passed (her study was affected by the death) or repeating the year. She was gona do the exams and then her mother got sick and died and when she asked if she could repeat the year the rules were explained and she had to repeat 4th year with out doing the exams.

    Another girl did the finals and repeated the year and got a pass degree, You cant repeat the exams just the year and can only get a pass degree if you do 4th year twice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 481 ✭✭cherrytaz


    Fact :Trinty is located within 5 minutes of Redz,21,CitiBar etc; where one can get absolutely off your face drunk and walk home

    Fact: UCD is in the arsehole of nowhere, scholars maintain it is made from one giant piece of concrete!!

    Fact: Trininty is in the top 200 colleges in the world

    Fact: UCD isnt in the top 200 colleges in the world





    P.s Im currently a 2nd year student Engineering in Trinity


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