Looking for advice on first RC Car

Villain

I'm interested in getting a RC Nitro on road 1/10th car, but I don't know much about them I have been reading the Green Hobby site but I'm looking for some advice on what and where to buy.

I see Green Hobby sell the Carson model's are they any good?

I was looking at these two:

http://cgi.ebay.ie/Schumacher-FUSION-2-Nitro-RC-Car-FUTABA-2ch-radio-40Mhz_W0QQitemZ290064743023QQihZ019QQcategoryZ19168QQcmdZViewItem

http://www.boyztoys.ie/index.php?subj=itemdetails&id=5360

Any advice would be very welcome, I don't want to spend a fortune but I'll spend up to around €500 for the right deal.

Thanks

Plug

You can get alot better car than them for less than that price. I never had any of them cars so im not going to comment. €500 is alot of bucks, personnally i'd go for an off roader like a monster truck or a statium truck. but if you really want an on roader get a traxxas nitro 4tec 3.3, 1050HP to the tonne!

BFassassin

I bought my revo from modelsport.co.uk and they are brilliant to deal with. they have a lot of stuff on there too

Plug

Or also you could try towerhobbies, good to deal with aswel;)

g5hn710m4xpdwy

500? very nice;)
Stay clear of boystoys they are possibly the biggest rip off for models!
Carson arnt very popular but they are good an you can get sapres handy and not have to import them.
The HPI RS4 3 EVO [one form boystoys] is a very good car and can be bought form other places for cheaper I would think

Villain

Where is the best place to pick one up?

Plug

Green hobby and model, they have a website, linky someone?
There for carson but i don't have much info on them as I never had one or saw one going.
the cheapest and best place in the world is towerhobbies though.

Villain

Thanks for the replys guys.

Plug I found the Green Hobby & Model site but they only seem to sell Carson models or is that just what they list on the site, is there any other places to pick one up in Ireland?

I'd like to pick one up this week if at all possible.

Thanks again

coolwings

Carson are popular and good value. They would be a high spec at a medium price. The engine has a really good reputation. The spare and upgrade parts are available and reasonable price.

I was in Green Hobby today and at five o'clock there was only one CR4 spec Carson car left.
In onroad they've quantities of Carson 2WD CR series, but only one CR4-4WD.
(If you asked they might upgrade a CR-2 series to CR-4 for you on the spot, or you could get the option parts and add them yourself)

The special deal 1/8th Carson Raptor monster trucks sold out for another week within 48 hours of arrival. (arrived xmas eve - gone today)

Patrick (the Green Hobby & Model shop manager) is taking orders & deposits and selling Raptors and CR4 in advance of delivery. He still has Stormracers.

You should take a look at the new Carson Twistracer which I put on their website a week ago. It has both on-road and offroad capability, the same engine inside, and is built on the already proven Stormracer 2 chassis.

I got the Carson 1/16th Mr Fu offroad truggy for my son on xmas eve. Electric. Not as hot as the LST Mini T, but it cost a hundred euros less and is very hot. the batteries are still new and not yet run in, so it should get a little hotter in the next week.

coolwings

Plug wrote:

Green hobby and model, they have a website, linky someone?

Well here it is Plug Green Hobby & Model

Plug wrote:

for carson but i don't have much info on them as I never had one or saw one going.

Here is one video ...http://www.greenhobbymodel.com/raptor_204001_01_Video.wmv

Plug

Theres a place in waterford who do alot of car makes espically Traxxas, do a quick google on traxxas, they probly have the best reputation for RTR models;)

xtz750

http://www.modeltune.com/shop/catalog/index.php?manufacturers_id=10&osCsid=0b7459df5a5b6ab31d15abb1671c8f52

hi irish1,look at there shop,a lot cheaper then the south i think,

Plug

coolwings wrote:

Well here it is Plug Green Hobby & Model


Here is one video ...http://www.greenhobbymodel.com/raptor_204001_01_Video.wmv

Expensive?

coolwings

How about Carson at 200 euros less than a similar size HPI with a similar size engine?

Not my place to quote prices.
You would have to speak with Patrick about specifics.
His tel number is on the website.

Plug

Does that include 100% RTR? Irish1 you might be ontio something here:D

coolwings

Plug wrote:

Does that include 100% RTR? Irish1 you might be ontio something here:D

I'm talking about CARSON cars only here .....

At Green Hobby the Carson nitro cars are sold in a lot of different combinations and generally the customer chooses whichever combination they themselves prefer.

All the Raptors and Twistracers were RTR all in one box type deals.

The Stormracers and Rally CR2s and CR4s would have been mainly (but not all) RTR .

Some of the Stormracers and Rally CR2s and CR4s were sold as discounted deal with 90% built chassis, car body of choice, radio - in their individual boxes to people who want the better JR radio that comes in those packages. Those customers fit the radio themselves.

Some customers choose prepainted body - other customers ask for a clear body with paint included. I was looking at Shelby Mustang and Porsche Carrera on xmas eve and both were clear bodies. (I ended up getting a Mr Fu truggy instead) I think most of the muscle car bodies are clear, and the WRC series mostly prepainted with those cool sponsor decals.

Plug

I was on about do you put everything in the package under the one price? Including fuel.

vectra

That Carson Raptor looks neat.

Villain

Thanks for the info coolwings, if you were to buy a Carson Car tomorrow which one would you go for?

Also can you give me a rough idea of price for that car, I don't mind buying a 90% model, but its just the Green Hoby site doesn't have any prices on it, so I have no idea what kind of money I would need in my pocket tomorrow if I want to come home with a full kit.

Thanks again

coolwings

Plug: Yeah - the price includes the lot, fuel, glowstart & all...

Vectra: I think the Raptor is cool too, I got to start one the other day, it has a nice deep rumbling sound from the tuned pipe. But I have my Specter so I won't be getting a Raptor anytime soon, unless one of you lot wants to buy it and help me move up :-)

Irish1: I maintain the Green hobby website (about three weeks behind at the moment ! ) and I got myself for a Specter about 4 or 5 months ago. It is incredibly fast over grass.
There's a thread about it on boards SPECTER THREAD.
Still trying to get a decent video of it but it's hard to drive and film at the same time and I have limited spare time to get out with it.

On the prices - they change more often than you would think. Right now they are down a bit. Esp the 1/8th sizes. The varying prices (on over 2000 items) is one of the reasons why they aren't on the website. I wouldn't have the time and the prices won't pay for a full time programmer. So it is a window not an online shop.
You call and if there is a good deal going they will tell you, but sometimes it's in what you want, and sometimes it's in something else. Patrick is the man to talk to. I saw a guy buy two Raptors xmas eve and he got the second one for a price that would make your mouth water.
Also - right now we are planning January sale which will change prices yet again. As usual the regular customers will hoover up the best bargains within the first 24 hours. They are already asking us what will be in the sale so they can call before it goes on the web.

vectra

irish1 wrote:

Thanks for the info coolwings, if you were to buy a Carson Car tomorrow which one would you go for?

Also can you give me a rough idea of price for that car, I don't mind buying a 90% model, but its just the Green Hoby site doesn't have any prices on it, so I have no idea what kind of money I would need in my pocket tomorrow if I want to come home with a full kit.

Thanks again

** EDIT **
** I just read Coolwings post and saw it comes with nitro ets, Just ask how much nitro and get some more if needs be **


I would suggest that you Ring Green Hobby & Models first thing tomorow morn before they are sold out and get a deff. price before leaving home. Also. You may need some batteries etc. I am not sure how far "RTR" goes. Sometimes youy get the batteries. sometimes you dont. ( I bought a carson C5 Recently " 1/5 scale Petrol car " and it came complete with batteries for receiver and Handset, So all I had to get was the petrol at my local service station and some 2 stroke oil )

Ask at the same time what nitro they reccomend you use on that model.and for a price.
In fact. Ask for a deal price on everything. You never know. As Coolwings said, They will be having a January sale shortly so maybe they might just be generous to you as it is the season of goodwill and all that.

Villain

That link isn't working, I'm sure the Specter is really good but I'm more after a on road car like the ones I linked to.

Do you or anyone else have any idea how much the CR-4 Full outfit or CR-2 Full outfit costs, I'm just looking for an idea, I'm not going to hold anyone to any guess they give.

*Edit* Thanks Vectra I'll give them a buzz in the morning so.

On a side note does anyone know of tracks or clubs etc in Leinster the nearer to Carlow the better.

Thanks for all the speedy reply's

coolwings

irish1 wrote:

That link isn't working

Ooops - fixed now. but here it is to save having to go back: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054931458&referrerid=&highlight=specter

irish1 wrote:

On a side note does anyone know of tracks or clubs etc in Leinster the nearer to Carlow the better...

There were guys racing in Carlow town about 12 months ago. I spoke to one of them. But I don't have his name and I never knew exactly where.

vectra

irish1 wrote:

That link isn't working, I'm sure the Specter is really good but I'm more after a on road car like the ones I linked to.

Do you or anyone else have any idea how much the CR-4 Full outfit or CR-2 Full outfit costs, I'm just looking for an idea, I'm not going to hold anyone to any guess they give.

*Edit* Thanks Vectra I'll give them a buzz in the morning so.

On a side note does anyone know of tracks or clubs etc in Leinster the nearer to Carlow the better.

Thanks for all the speedy reply's

I would estimate at around €450 ... Could be wrong but thats just a guess.;)

As for Clubs..?
They are far and few between
I run one down here in Cork
There is one in Navan
There is an offroad one in Dublin.


Personally, I think you should consider an offroader of some sort.
I know the excitement of speed and lovely bodyshells is very appealing.
BUT
The appeal effect wears off when you find you have no place proper to run it.
On the other hand.

Buy a Monster Truck and go find a field with some humps and hollows... Find a nice bank of grass on the edge of a field and have a bit oh hillclimbing fun.
Find a Building site and you have an instant track ( when nobody is about)

Have a good long think about it before you part with your cash.

Villain

Thanks for the info Vectra, I'm sure an off road model would be more senisble but I normally don't do sensible when it comes to hobbies e.g. I'm currently watching Charlton and Fulham on a 200" screen.

But mostly because I'm a rally fan and I would much more enjoy using an on road model. There is a large car-park near me its about half an acre in size and is empty most of the time.

Anyone know anything about ORCA Ireland?

coolwings

They race in Clontarf, Dublin.
Sharing the St Annes Park track with another club.

You should get in touch with the Carlow model car racing group. I will see if I can remember a contact.

coolwings

coolwings wrote:

One (or all) of the Carlow chaps ... used to race if I remember right.

I just remembered the name of one of the local racers.
Haven't got permission to spread it around, but if you call me at Green Hobby tomorrow morning I could give it to you, or pass your name to him.

Plug

vectra wrote:

Personally, I think you should consider an offroader of some sort.
I know the excitement of speed and lovely bodyshells is very appealing.
BUT
The appeal effect wears off when you find you have no place proper to run it.
On the other hand.

Buy a Monster Truck and go find a field with some humps and hollows... Find a nice bank of grass on the edge of a field and have a bit oh hillclimbing fun.
Find a Building site and you have an instant track ( when nobody is about)

Have a good long think about it before you part with your cash.

Vectra's right, im in Kilkenny, just a 25 minute drive each way, thats nothing. We could meet up sometime and show you how to get the thing up and running, no problem. I race with another lad down here and more to come.
GET AN OFF ROADER!:D

Villain

Cheers plug I appreciate the offer and I'll give it some thought before I splash the cash but TBH I will probably go with an on roader its just of these things I always wanted to buy as a teenager but could never afford to splash the cash on (probably still can't ).

High speed with sideways action is worth a lot more to me than jumps etc. Just a personal thing I guess.

Plug

So you like drifting then?........

Villain

Well actually its funny you should say that because my idea of drifting is coming up to a 2 or 3 right or left turn in a rally car and taking it sideways. However when you say drifting now people think of the drifting series on a track which is an impressive skill but tbh I prefer to see a rally car come up to a bed at 120mph and then drop to 50 or 60 and take a bed and get back to top speed again.

I've been lucky enough to sit in a WRC Subaru and Ford Escort during testing and thats what I like to re-create, unfortunately the nearest I will get to it is with a 1/10th model seeing as the real thing costs about 400,000 to buy!

BFassassin

Well have you got a good amount of tarmac/concrete to run it on. If not off-road is your only option

Villain

Maybe I might just have to get one of each then

tallus

For what you're willing to spend mate, you will get an off road car/truck that will go just as fast as an on roader. I have one on roader and three off roaders and the speeds aren't that different, 'cept for my menace21 truck. It does around 70mph. The only possible difference you will find is handling, and even then there's not a huge difference. Here's a video of one of my off roaders doing on-road runs.
http://www.stevetrek.com/movies/TheJoyride2.wmv

Plug

irish1 wrote:

Maybe I might just have to get one of each then

Maybe this is more of your taste and well in your budget Im sure.
LINK

Accelaretes 0-60mph in 3.1 seconds, thats quicker than any Ferrari:eek:

Villain

Well I purchased both a on road Carson 4WD and a Spector but the on Roader needs to be built and I couldn't get the Spector to start. But I forget the sticker package so I'll up tomorrow and collect that and they might be kind enough to start the spector for me.

vectra

irish1 wrote:

Well I purchased both a on road Carson 4WD and a Spector but the on Roader needs to be built and I couldn't get the Spector to start. But I forget the sticker package so I'll up tomorrow and collect that and they might be kind enough to start the spector for me.

Way to go bud..
Must of got yourself a good deal in buying both..

Villain

€740 all in for both I thought it was good value anyway.

BFassassin

God you must be loaded to be able to buy both. I hope you enjoy them

vectra

irish1 wrote:

€740 all in for both I thought it was good value anyway.

Sounds good. €370 each.
Not a bad price at all mind.

coolwings

"Not a bad price at all"
Slight understatement eh Vectra?

I wouldn't sit on my hands if I were you ... the Green Hobby sale lasts for a month, but "certain items" will be cleared in the next 2 days.

vectra

coolwings wrote:

"Not a bad price at all"
Slight understatement eh Vectra?

I wouldn't sit on my hands if I were you ... the Green Hobby sale lasts for a month, but "certain items" will be cleared in the next 2 days.

Well, Yes then.. Very good deal seeing as I estimated the price of the Car @ €450 yesterday.

Also
Its not the hands I am sitting on..Its my wallet..
Its liable to fly away now its so light..

Looking at changing my real car shortly.. ( well around March)
Was looking @ buying a 03' Jag "X Type" 2.0 litre TD.
Wife nearly freaked :eek:

Still cant get through to her how it would be such a good purchase.. :rolleyes:

g5hn710m4xpdwy

coolwings wrote:

"Not a bad price at all"
Slight understatement eh Vectra?

I wouldn't sit on my hands if I were you ... the Green Hobby sale lasts for a month, but "certain items" will be cleared in the next 2 days.

Know of anything good going quite cheap? [€100]

Vectra: You would have a hard time getting that into many peoples head, but im with you.. go for it

vectra

Flunked wrote:

Vectra: You would have a hard time getting that into many peoples head, but im with you.. go for it

Well.
They retail at approx 29k here
I can get this one in and cleared for under 21K

Basically would be costing me only 10K with my own car.
Sell it 3 months latyer and be up €4-5K

g5hn710m4xpdwy

you know, if you keep doing that a few times, you will have a few thousend extra:D

vectra

Flunked wrote:

you know, if you keep doing that a few times, you will have a few thousend extra:D

And it would all go towards my car that I would be keeping..

coolwings

vectra wrote:

...Wife nearly freaked :eek: .... Still cant get through to her how it would be such a good purchase.. :rolleyes:

Keep working on it.
A couple hundred on tickets for a holiday in the sun buys a lot of brownie points !!!!!!

coolwings

Flunked wrote:

Know of anything good going quite cheap? [€100]
....

I'll be surprised if there isn't something, I am getting a list of 150+ items tomorrow morning. Gotta be something in it !
Loads of scale plastic Hasegawa kits for a start ... a few Tamiya armour maybe ...
I should have got it online by 10.30 or so .....
I want to stock up on some Mega or Kontronik brushless motors myself - maybe a new kit.

Fobia

coolwings wrote:

I should have got it online by 10.30 or so .....

Webmaster talk for "in the next month if you're lucky"!

vectra

coolwings wrote:

Keep working on it.
A couple hundred on tickets for a holiday in the sun buys a lot of brownie points !!!!!!

Maybe for most but not for me..
I think I married a bloody eskimo..! She loves the cold and hates the sun.:rolleyes:

Plug

vectra wrote:

Maybe for most but not for me..
I think I married a bloody eskimo..! She loves the cold and hates the sun.:rolleyes:

Also hate too much sun:(

Coolwings: Will green hobby start doing Traxxas?