Clearwire to aquire IBB

ntlbell

irlrobins wrote:

Pretty sure we did too.

Isn't one of the selling points on their adverts

"no lines, no contracts" blah blah


or is that just ripwave?

I never signed one for breeze

irlrobins

Just ripwave. Def signed one for Breeze. That and a DD agreement.

Cabaal

cmdrpaddy wrote:

If IBB start traffic shaping I'm pretty screwed. I've had my IBB connection for 3 years now and they recently upgraded the hardware and the connection speed from 0.5MB to 2MB and I've been downloading like a fiend (in the last 2 months my up+down total is over a terabyte). I'd be very disappointed if they started traffic shaping.:(

While I understand alot of people download, its not a workable business model for any company to provide a truly unlimited connection to a customer who saturates their up/down stream 24/7.

The bandwidth costs/backhall costs are just far too much and they outweigh the monthly price a customer would pay.

Case in point, look at the UK...how many ISP's there have alot of customers and offer a unlimited service still?

CuLT

ntlbell wrote:

Isn't one of the selling points on their adverts

"no lines, no contracts" blah blah


or is that just ripwave?

I never signed one for breeze

Ah this is where we're getting our wires crossed.

Yes, I was using Breeze; funny, I don't even mentally associate IBB with Ripwave due to the vast difference in quality. I never had a single problem with Breeze.

gerryo

Hope it does not evolve into another "surf no Limits" Fiasco.

(quick recap: SNL was an Esat-BT evenings/weekends dial up package, started out as unlimited, was reduced to approx. 150 hours due to over usage because users stayed connected all weekends/off peak times).

Guess IBB's new owners can alter T's & C's if they like..would be unfair to charge exit costs if users decided to go elsewhere because the new conditions were unacceptable or because they were contrary to what was signed up for.

Would be a bit like NTL charging the same for the TV service after dropping a bunch of popular TV channels & expecting everyone to accept this as an acceptable business practice.

We'll have to wait & see what happens.

mayhem#

Is this really a full fledged aquisition or is Clearwire just buying the 60% shareholding that NTR holds?
Funny thing is that as recent as September IBB was looking to get €60 million or thereabouts for this chunck of equity...

E.

Sponge Bob

Clearwire standard T&Cs for ye. It will take a week to read ,and these will become active on day zero

http://www.clearwire.ie/cwi/defaultarticle.php?cArticlePath=151_163

Terms of Service

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BY ACTIVATING OR USING OUR SERVICE OR EQUIPMENT YOU AGREE TO BE BOUND BY THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS AND POLICIES. PLEASE READ THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS AND POLICIES CAREFULLY AS THEY, AMONG OTHER THINGS, ESTABLISH YOUR LIABILITY FOR THE EQUIPMENT (Sec. 4), REQUIRE TERM COMMITMENTS (Sec. 23), IMPOSE EARLY CANCELLATION FEES (Sec. 23), AND REQUIRE MANDATORY ARBITRATION OF DISPUTES (Sec. 33).

This is your agreement with Clearwire Corporation and its affiliates (together “Clearwire,” “we” or “us”) for the provision of fixed wireless broadband services (the “Service”) in accordance with the order form submitted by you to Clearwire (the “Order Form”), the terms and conditions set forth below (the “Terms”), Clearwire’s Acceptable Use Policy and such other policies as Clearwire may adopt (collectively, “Policies”), each as they may be amended from time to time and as may be posted from time to time at www.clearwire.ie. Additional terms, restrictions, and limitations may be set forth in authorized service plan descriptions provided to you by Clearwire or posted at www.clearwire.ie (each, a “Service Plan”), and all such terms, restrictions, and limitations are incorporated herein by reference and are binding upon you. If any Services are subject to any tariffs filed by Clearwire (“Tariffs”), then you agree that such Services will also be governed by the terms of any such Tariffs. The Order Form, Terms, Policies, any applicable Tariffs, and the Service Plans collectively constitute your agreement (the “Agreement”) with Clearwire. In the event of conflict, except as otherwise expressly stated in any of the foregoing, the Terms shall control. By initiating Service, providing a written or electronic signature or otherwise so indicating electronically, you will have accepted this Agreement. You acknowledge that you have read and understood, and you agree to, the terms and conditions of the Agreement, and you represent that you are of legal age to enter the Agreement and become bound by its terms. The Agreement governs both the Service and any Equipment (as defined below) used in conjunction with the Service. The Agreement applies to you and to anyone who uses the Services or Equipment sold or rented to you.

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4. Equipment Provided - Purchase. As specified on your Order Form, Clearwire will sell to you, and you will purchase from Clearwire, a subscriber unit and related cabling (collectively the “Equipment”). Clearwire warrants that all Equipment purchased from Clearwire will be substantially free from defects in material and workmanship under normal use in compliance with Clearwire’s instructions for a period of two (2) years from the date you receive the Equipment. All or part of the Equipment may be reconditioned or refurbished, but all Equipment will be warranted as provided in these Terms. This warranty excludes any damage resulting from abuse, misuse, neglect, theft, vandalism, fire, unusual physical or electrical stress, water, extremes of temperature, other peril or act of God, your failure to comply with any Equipment instructions published by Clearwire or available at www.clearwire.ie, or actual or attempted alteration of or additions to the Products not approved by Clearwire, all as determined in the sole discretion of Clearwire. Clearwire shall have the sole discretion to determine whether to repair or replace any Equipment. Repair or replacement of the Equipment is Clearwire’s only responsibility, and your exclusive remedy, for breach of any warranty regarding the Equipment. This warranty is in lieu (to the maximum extent permitted under applicable law) of all other warranties, express or implied, including but not limited to any implied warranties of merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose. You may not sell or otherwise transfer the Equipment to anyone without Clearwire’s prior written consent. If you purport to sell or otherwise transfer the Equipment, any warranties will automatically and immediately terminate. Any repair, upgrade, or replacement of the Equipment following two (2) years after activation of Service, resulting from defects in the Equipment or from any other cause, will be your responsibility.

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7. Clearwire’s Responsibilities. Clearwire will provide you with wireless connections to the Clearwire network. Clearwire’s responsibility for the Service ends at the Clearwire Equipment. In the event that you request a professional installation from Clearwire, Clearwire will install the Equipment as provided above, and configure one computer using its Ethernet port. Clearwire will not maintain or in any way be responsible for any software, cables, or hardware attached to the Equipment or in any way related or unrelated to the use of Service, including your internal network. Clearwire will provide customer care support during its standard business hours for performance and operational issues related to the Clearwire network. Please contact Clearwire Customer Care as set forth at www.clearwire.ie.

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9. Credits. No credit or adjustment will be made for interruptions of the Service unless the interruption continues for a period of twenty-four (24) hours or more, measured from the time that you report the interruption to Clearwire. In the event of an interruption of the Service that continues for a period of twenty-four (24) hours or more, credit allowance will be made, at your written request, for an amount not to exceed the prorated monthly charges for your Service during the affected period. The credit will be available only where the interruption is in no part due to your acts or omissions whether negligent or otherwise or by interruptions caused by failure of any equipment or service not provided by Clearwire. The foregoing credit will be your sole and exclusive remedy for any interruption of the Service or any degradation of performance of the Service. In order to be eligible for any such credit, you must request the credit in writing within sixty (60) days of the commencement of the interruption. No credit will be available if the interruption period results from abuse, misuse, neglect, theft, vandalism, fire, unusual physical or electrical stress, water, extremes of temperature, other peril or act of God, your failure to comply with Clearwire instructions or the terms stated at www.clearwire.ie, or actual or attempted alteration of or additions to the Equipment or Service (sometimes collectively referred to herein as the “Products”) not approved by Clearwire, or from any problems with third party network elements that are not within the control of Clearwire, all as determined in the sole discretion of Clearwire.

10. Intended Use of the Service. You may not reproduce, duplicate, copy, sell, resell, or exploit any portion of the Service without Clearwire’s prior written consent. You will not use the Service in a manner prohibited by any Irish law or regulation, and will abide by Clearwire’s Policies, which set forth additional rules that govern your activity in connection with the Service. Without limiting the foregoing, you may not use the Equipment or Service, or allow the Equipment or Service to be used, for any abusive purpose or in any way that damages Clearwire’s property or interferes with or disrupts Clearwire’s network or other users. You may not attempt to circumvent user authentication or security of any host, network, or account (also known as “cracking” or “hacking”). This includes, but is not limited to, accessing data not intended for you, logging into a server or account that you are not expressly authorized to access, or probing the security of other networks. You may not attempt to interfere with service to any user, host, or network (“denial of service attacks”). This includes, but is not limited to, “flooding” of networks, deliberate attempts to overload a service, and attempts to “crash” a host. You may not use any kind of program/script/command, or send messages of any kind, designed to interfere with a user’s session, by any means, locally or via the Internet. You may not use the Service or take any action that will result in excessive consumption or utilization of Clearwire’s system or network resources, or which may weaken network performance, or which adversely affects the performance of the Services for other Clearwire customers, all as determined in Clearwire’s sole discretion. Such prohibited actions include, but are not limited to: using the Service to host a web server site which attracts excessive traffic at your Premises, continuously uploading or downloading streaming video or audio, usenet hosting, or continuous FTP uploading or downloading. In the event that Clearwire detects excessive use by you, Clearwire may restrict your access to Clearwire’s network, increase the fees associated with your Service, including upgrading you to a higher class of Service, or terminate your Service. Clearwire has the right but not the obligation to restrict any uses of the Equipment or Service that Clearwire believes in its sole discretion violate the Agreement or applicable law.

11. Content and Materials Accessible on the Internet. You acknowledge that there are materials and content on the Internet or otherwise accessible through the Service which may not be in compliance with all Irish laws and regulations, and which may be sexually explicit, offensive, or otherwise objectionable to you. Clearwire assumes no responsibility for and exercises no control over the content or materials contained on the Internet or that is otherwise accessible through the Service. You access such materials at your own risk. If you decide to let children under the age of eighteen access the Service, Clearwire strongly recommends that you supervise their usage.

12. Illegal and Fraudulent Activity. You acknowledge that Clearwire may cooperate fully with investigations of possible illegal activity or violations of systems or network security at other sites, including cooperating with law enforcement authorities in the investigation of suspected criminal violations. Subscribers who violate systems or network security requirements may incur criminal or civil liability. Clearwire may immediately suspend or terminate your Service if Clearwire suspects abuse or fraudulent use of the Service, interference with our network, or violation of the Agreement. You will cooperate with us in any fraud investigation and use any fraud prevention measures Clearwire prescribes. Your failure to provide reasonable cooperation may result in your liability for all fraudulent usage.

13. Privacy; Monitoring the Service. Clearwire is under no obligation to monitor the Service, but Clearwire may do so from time to time. You agree that Clearwire may disclose any information regarding you or your use of the Service for any reason and at its sole discretion in order to satisfy applicable laws, regulations, governmental requests, or in order to operate and deliver the Service in an efficient manner, or to otherwise protect Clearwire’s property or legal interests and those of its subscribers, or to ensure your compliance with the Agreement. Please see Clearwire’s Privacy Policy at ww.clearwire.ie.

14. Use of Service and Equipment Outside Ireland. Clearwire may support the use of its Equipment and Service by customers located in other countries. If your or User’s removal of the Equipment from Ireland violates any export control law or regulation, you will be solely liable for such violation and agree to indemnify and hold harmless Clearwire against any and all liability for such violation.

15. Loss of Service Due to Power Failure. You acknowledge that the Service does not function in the event of power failure. A power failure or disruption may require you to reset or reconfigure Equipment prior to utilizing the Service.

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17. Tampering with the Equipment or Service. You agree not to change the electronic serial number or equipment identifier of the Equipment, or to perform a factory reset of the Equipment, without express permission from Clearwire in each instance which Clearwire may deny in its sole discretion.

18. Theft of Equipment or Service. You agree to notify Clearwire immediately, in writing or by calling the Clearwire customer support line, if the Equipment is stolen or if you become aware at any time that your Service is being stolen or fraudulently used.

19. Service Distinctions. You acknowledge that the Service is not a telephone service. Important distinctions exist between telephone service and the enhanced Service offering provided by Clearwire. The Service is subject to different regulatory treatment than telephone service. This treatment may limit or otherwise affect your rights of redress before Irish telecommunications regulatory agencies.

20. Back Up. You acknowledge that the installation, use, inspection, maintenance, repair, and removal of the Equipment may result in service outage or potential damage to your computer equipment and/or loss of software, files, data, or peripherals. You acknowledge that you are solely responsible for backing up all existing computer files by copying them to another storage medium prior to installation, maintenance, repair, or removal of the Equipment. Neither Clearwire nor its subcontractors or equipment vendors will be liable for any loss of data or damage to hardware, software, or your Premises that occurs during installation of any Equipment or that results from any service performed on your computer in support of your Service.

21. Network Address Ownership. The internet protocol (“IP”) addresses that Clearwire assigns to you, including static IP addresses, are considered loaned to you, and not transferred or sold to you. You have no ownership or proprietary interest in such IP addresses. Such IP addresses will revert back to Clearwire upon the termination of your Service for any reason, or earlier if such change in IP address is reasonably necessary in the conduct of Clearwire’s business. You shall not assign to any other person the IP address assigned to you. You shall not program any other IP address into the Equipment.

22. Credit Reporting Agencies. You authorise us to ask consumer reporting agencies or trade references to furnish us with employment and credit information, and you consent to our rechecking and reporting personal and/or business payment and credit history. Upon receipt of adverse credit information about you at any time, Clearwire reserves the right to suspend or terminate Service to you or require a deposit for Service, at our option.

23. Termination/Early Termination Fee. You shall maintain Service for the duration of any minimum Initial Term (as set forth on the Order Form)..You may terminate the Service after the end of the Initial Term by contacting Clearwire’s Customer Care department as set forth at www.clearwire.ie and giving at least thirty (30) notice of termination. If you terminate your Service for any reason or your Service is terminated by Clearwire for any violation of the Agreement prior to the end of the Initial Term, you will be liable for an early termination fee of €120, or such other early termination fee as may be specified on your Order Form. Upon termination of this Agreement, unless you purchased the Equipment as provided above, you will be responsible for the costs and risks associated with returning the Equipment to Clearwire. You must return the rented Equipment to Clearwire in good working order, reasonable wear and tear excepted, in accordance with Clearwire’s return policy set forth at www.clearwire.ie. If you do not immediately return the Equipment in good working order, Clearwire may charge your Card account for €250, which you agree is an appropriate charge in light of the value of the Equipment.

24. Termination/Discontinuance of Service. Clearwire reserves the right to suspend or discontinue providing the Service generally, or to terminate your Service, at any time in its sole discretion. If Clearwire discontinues providing the Service generally, or terminates your Service in its discretion without a stated reason, you will only be responsible for charges accrued through the date of termination, including a pro-rated portion of the final month’s charges. If your Service is terminated for any stated reason, including without limitation violation of the Agreement, or because of any improper use of the Service or Equipment (such as, but not limited to, your attempts to hack, disrupt, or misuse the Service or your acts or omissions that violate any Policy of Clearwire or of a third party provider to which Clearwire is subject), you will be responsible for the full month’s charges to the end of the current term, including without limitation unbilled charges, plus the early termination fee set forth in these Terms, all of which immediately become due and payable.

25. DISCLAIMER OF LIABILITY. (A) EXCEPT AS SET FORTH IN SECTION 5, THE SERVICE AND EQUIPMENT ARE PROVIDED ON AN “AS IS” AND “AS AVAILABLE” BASIS WITHOUT WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, SAVE FOR STATUTORY WARRANTIES OF TITLE, NON-INFRINGEMENT, NON-INTERFERENCE, IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. SECTION 39 OF THE SALE OF GOODS AND SUPPLY OF SERVICES ACT 1980 OR ANY LEGISLATION AMENDING, REPLACING OR SUPPLEMENTING THE SAME IS HEREBY EXCLUDED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT PERMISSIBLE BY LAW. ANY STATEMENTS MADE IN ANY PACKAGING, MANUALS OR OTHER DOCUMENTS, OR BY ANY CLEARWIRE EMPLOYEES OR REPRESENTATIVES, ARE PROVIDED FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT AS WARRANTIES BY CLEARWIRE. NEITHER CLEARWIRE NOR IT AFFILIATES OR SUPPLIERS WARRANT THAT THE SERVICE WILL BE UNINTERRUPTED OR ERROR FREE OR FREE FROM SERVICE DEGRADATION, OR THAT ANY INFORMATION, SOFTWARE, OR OTHER MATERIAL ACCESSIBLE ON THE SERVICE ARE FREE FROM VIRUSES, WORMS, TROJAN HORSES, OR OTHER CODE THAT MANIFESTS CONTAMINATING OR DESTRUCTIVE PROPERTIES. WITHOUT LIMITING THE FOREGOING, THE QUALITY OF THE SERVICE MAY BE AFFECTED BY CONDITIONS WITHIN OR BEYOND OUR CONTROL, INCLUDING ATMOSPHERIC, GEOGRAPHIC, OR TOPOGRAPHIC CONDITIONS, OVERALL NETWORK USAGE LEVELS, NETWORK SIGNAL QUALITY, USER AND THIRD PARTY EQUIPMENT PERFORMANCE, INTERNET TRAFFIC LEVELS, AND OTHER FACTORS. CLEARWIRE WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DELAY OR FAILURE IN PERFORMANCE DUE TO EVENTS OUTSIDE CLEARWIRE’S REASONABLE CONTROL, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION ANY FLOOD, FIRE, ACCIDENT, EMBARGO OR OTHER GOVERNMENTAL ACT OR DIRECTIVE, ABSENCE OF GOVERNMENTAL APPROVAL OR CONSENT, DELAY OR DEFECT IN DELIVERY BY SUPPLIERS, TRANSPORTATION DELAY OR UNAVAILABILITY, RIOT, WAR, ACT OF TERRORISM OR OF THE PUBLIC ENEMY, POWER OUTAGE, LABOUR DISPUTE OR SHORTAGE, THIRD PARTY NETWORK PROBLEMS, ACTS OR OMISSIONS OF UNDERLYING CARRIERS OR OTHER THIRD PARTIES, OR ACTS OF GOD. SERVICE IS ONLY AVAILABLE WITHIN THE COVERAGE AREA OF THE CLEARWIRE NETWORK, WHICH IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SERVICE MAY BE TEMPORARILY UNAVAILABLE FOR SCHEDULED OR UNSCHEDULED MAINTENANCE, EQUIPMENT MODIFICATIONS OR UPGRADES, AND FOR OTHER REASONS WITHIN AND WITHOUT THE DIRECT CONTROL OF CLEARWIRE. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPLEMENTING SUFFICIENT PROCEDURES TO SATISFY YOUR PARTICULAR REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ACCURACY OF DATA INPUT AND OUTPUT, AND FOR MAINTAINING A MEANS EXTERNAL TO THE SERVICE FOR THE RECONSTRUCTION OF ANY LOST DATA OR FILES. ALTHOUGH SECURITY MEASURES ARE EMPLOYED, CLEARWIRE CANNOT GUARANTEE THE SECURITY OF DATA TRANSMISSION OR STORAGE, OR THAT VIRUSES, WORMS, TROJAN HORSES, OR OTHER CODE THAT MANIFESTS CONTAMINATING OR DESTRUCTIVE PROPERTIES WILL BE DETECTED OR REMEDIATED BY THE SERVICE. (B) NOTWITHSTANDING ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS AGREEMENT, NEITHER CLEARWIRE NOR ITS AFFILIATES OR SUPPLIERS WILL BE LIABLE OR OBLIGATED UNDER ANY SECTION OF THIS AGREEMENT OR UNDER ANY CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE, STRICT LIABILITY, OR OTHER LEGAL OR EQUITABLE THEORY (I) FOR ANY AMOUNTS IN EXCESS OF THE AGGREGATE OF THE FEES PAID TO IT HEREUNDER DURING THE THREE MONTH PERIOD IMMEDIATELY PRECEDING THE OCCURRENCE GIVING RISE TO LIABILITY, (II) FOR ANY COST OF PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS, TECHNOLOGY, SERVICES, PRODUCTS, OR RIGHTS, (III) FOR ANY LOSS OR CORRUPTION OF DATA OR DELAYED OR INTERRUPTED USE OF THE SERVICE OR ACCESS TO THE INTERNET, (IV) FOR ANY INDIRECT, SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL, PUNITIVE OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OR LOST PROFITS, OR (V) FOR ANY LACK OR BREACHES OF SECURITY OF THE SERVICE OR IN THE STORAGE OF YOUR DATA OR ANY END USER’S DATA. THESE LIMITATIONS APPLY WHETHER THE CLAIM IS BASED ON BREACH OF CONTRACT, BREACH OF WARRANTY, NEGLIGENCE, PRODUCT LIABILITY, OR ANY OTHER BASIS, AND APPLY WHETHER OR NOT CLEARWIRE WAS INFORMED OF THE LIKELIHOOD OF ANY PARTICULAR TYPE OF DAMAGES. IF YOU ARE DISSATISFIED WITH THE SERVICE OR IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER DISPUTE WITH CLEARWIRE, OR CLAIM AGAINST CLEARWIRE, THEN YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE REMEDY IS TO DISCONTINUE USING THE SERVICES.

26. Privacy. Clearwire Service utilizes, in whole or in part, the public Internet and third party networks. Clearwire is not liable for any lack of privacy which may be experienced with regard to the Service. Please refer to our privacy policy applicable to you at www.clearwire.ie for additional information.

27. Place of Primary Use. In order to determine which jurisdiction’s taxes and other assessments to collect, local law may require Clearwire to obtain your Place of Primary Use (“PPU”), which must be your residential street address (if the Service is primarily for personal use) or your business street address (if the Service is primarily for business use. This address must be within the coverage area for the Service. You agree that the street address listed on your Service Order is your PPU. You agree to notify Clearwire of any change to your PPU.

28. Complaint Resolution/Notices. In order to resolve a complaint regarding the Service or to receive further information regarding the use of the Service, please contact Clearwire Customer Care as set forth at www.clearwire.ie. Written notices to you will be effective three (3) days following the date deposited in the Irish postal service addressed to your address as kept in our files. You are responsible for notifying us of any changes in your address. Written notice to Clearwire will be effective when directed to Clearwire’s Customer Care Department and received at the address set forth at www.clearwire.ie. Notices sent by email to you at your email address as stated in the Order Form, and email notices sent to Clearwire at the email address as stated at www.clearwire.ie, will be effective when sent. Notices must be in writing to be effective. Notices sent by email to the appropriate email address shall constitute written notice.

29. Amendments. Subject to applicable law, Clearwire may in its sole discretion amend any of the Terms or your Service Plan. Clearwire will provide notice to you of any material modification. If you do not agree to a modification that is materially disadvantageous to you, you may terminate the Agreement within twenty (20) days of the date we send our notice, and you will not be charged any Early Termination Fee. If you use the Service or make any payment to us after we mail notice of a material modification, and do not provide termination notice to us within the specified time period, you agree to that change, retroactive to the announced effective date of the modification. Clearwire may revise any Policy at any time, and such revisions will be effective immediately upon posting on Clearwire’s website, or providing written notice to you.

30. Indemnification. You will defend, indemnify, and hold Clearwire and its directors, officers, employees, agents, affiliates, and shareholders and any other service provider or supplier (collectively, the “Clearwire Parties”) harmless against any and all claims, losses, damages, and liabilities sustained by the Clearwire Parties resulting from, arising out of the Agreement, the Services, any breach or non-fulfillment of any representation, warranty, or covenant set forth in the Agreement or from your use of the Equipment or the Service. You also agree to pay Clearwire’s reasonable attorneys’ and expert witness fees and costs incurred in enforcing the Agreement, including any such fees incurred in connection with any appeal. This paragraph will survive termination of the Agreement for any reason.

31. Assignment and Successors in Interest. All of the Terms will be binding upon, inure to the benefit of, and be enforceable by your respective successors and permitted assigns. Except as specifically stated herein, neither the Agreement nor any of your or Clearwire’s rights, interests, or obligations may be assigned or delegated by you without the prior written consent of Clearwire. Any unauthorized assignment or delegation will be null and void. Notwithstanding the foregoing, Clearwire may assign or otherwise transfer its rights and obligations under the Agreement without restriction.

32. Entire Agreement/Severability. This Agreement, including the Order Form, the Terms, your Service Plan, and the Policies (each as they may be amended from time to time) together contain the entire agreement and understanding concerning the Service and Equipment and supersede all prior negotiations, proposed agreements, and all other agreements, whether electronic, written, or oral. In the event that it is determined by a court of competent jurisdiction as a part of a final non-appealable judgment that any provision of the Agreement (or part thereof) is invalid, illegal, or otherwise unenforceable, such provision will be enforced as nearly as possible in accordance with the stated intention of the parties, while the remainder of the Agreement will remain in full force and effect.

33. ARBITRATION. THIS AGREEMENT WILL BE GOVERNED BY AND CONSTRUED UNDER THE LAWS OF IRELAND WITHOUT REGARD TO CHOICE OF LAW PRINCIPLES. ALL DISPUTES ARISING UNDER THIS AGREEMENT (OTHER THAN YOUR FAILURE TO MAKE PAYMENTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AGREEMENT AND ANY ACTION TO COLLECT AMOUNTS DUE TO CLEARWIRE UNDER THIS AGREEMENT, WHICH MAY BE BROUGHT IN ANY COURT OF COMPETENT JURISDICTION) WILL BE SETTLED BY BINDING ARBITRATION USING THE COMMERCIAL RULES OF THE CENTRE FOR ARBITRATION AND DISPUTE RESOLUTION (CDR) THEN IN EFFECT. THE PLACE FOR ARBITRATION WILL BE DUBLIN, IRELAND UNLESS THAT LOCATION IS PROHIBITED BY LAW, IN WHICH CASE THE ARBITRATOR SHALL SELECT THE LOCATION OF THE ARBITRATION. ONE (1) ARBITRATOR SELECTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CDR RULES WHO HAS EXPERTISE IN THE SUBJECT MATTER HEREOF WILL CONDUCT THE ARBITRATION. UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY LAW, YOU AND CLEARWIRE WILL EACH BEAR YOUR OWN EXPENSES, INCLUDING ATTORNEYS’ FEES, EXCEPT THAT PAYMENT OF THE FEES AND EXPENSES OF THE ARBITRATOR SHALL BE GOVERNED BY THE RULES OF THE CDR. THIS DUTY TO ARBITRATE WILL SURVIVE THE TERMINATION OF THIS AGREEMENT FOR ANY REASON. ALL CLAIMS WILL BE ARBITRATED INDIVIDUALLY AND THERE WILL BE NO CONSOLIDATION OR CLASS TREATMENT OF ANY CLAIM UNLESS PREVIOUSLY AGREED TO IN WRITING BY CLEARWIRE. THE ARBITRATOR SHALL NOT HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO AWARD ANY SPECIAL OR PUNITIVE DAMAGES OR ANY OTHER DAMAGES EXCEPT AS PERMITTED BY THE AGREEMENT. YOU WAIVE ANY RIGHT TO TRIAL BY JURY OF ANY CLAIMS OR DISPUTES RELATING TO THIS AGREEMENT OR THE SERVICES. YOU WAIVE ANY RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE AS A PLAINTIFF OR AS A CLASS MEMBER IN ANY CLAIM ON A CLASS OR CONSOLIDATED BASIS OR IN A REPRESENTATIVE CAPACITY. YOU AND CLEARWIRE AGREE THAT ANY CLAIM ARISING OUT OF OR RELATED TO THE SERVICE OR THE AGREEMENT MUST BE COMMENCED WITHIN TWO (2) YEARS AFTER THE CLAIM ARISES, OR THE CLAIM WILL BE PERMANENTLY BARRED.

watty

So Clearwire REALLY is the new IBB then? Has this takeover progressed since December?

gerryo

Heard on Newstalk (8:00 news) NTR are denying IBB is for sale.

Not sure if this means the current talks broke down & IBB is not for sale to Clearwire, or if it's not for sale at all.

Sponge Bob

clearwire made them an offer they could refuse, or so it seems.

gerryo

Sponge Bob wrote:

clearwire made them an offer they could refuse, or so it seems.

Were they beaten back with a very large stick.:)

gerryo

ref: Sunday Times Jan 28th Business section.

Clearwire have walked away from talks to buy Irish broadband.

Does'nt mean IBB are still not for sale, though they are trying to raise more funds.

Redisle

gerryo wrote:

Clearwire have walked away from talks to buy Irish broadband.

Good! hopefully we wont be losing our currently good service so!

Rozie

I have Ripwave and it's been working alright for me thus far.

However, recently, I've noticed a severe throttling of any P2P activity.

Not very pleased at all.

Lemming

Sponge Bob wrote:

Clearwire standard T&Cs for ye. It will take a week to read ,and these will become active on day zero

http://www.clearwire.ie/cwi/defaultarticle.php?cArticlePath=151_163

Terms of Service

...

10. Intended Use of the Service. You may not reproduce, duplicate, copy, sell, resell, or exploit any portion of the Service without Clearwire’s prior written consent. You will not use the Service in a manner prohibited by any Irish law or regulation, and will abide by Clearwire’s Policies, which set forth additional rules that govern your activity in connection with the Service. Without limiting the foregoing, you may not use the Equipment or Service, or allow the Equipment or Service to be used, for any abusive purpose or in any way that damages Clearwire’s property or interferes with or disrupts Clearwire’s network or other users. You may not attempt to circumvent user authentication or security of any host, network, or account (also known as “cracking” or “hacking”). This includes, but is not limited to, accessing data not intended for you, logging into a server or account that you are not expressly authorized to access, or probing the security of other networks. You may not attempt to interfere with service to any user, host, or network (“denial of service attacks”). This includes, but is not limited to, “flooding” of networks, deliberate attempts to overload a service, and attempts to “crash” a host. You may not use any kind of program/script/command, or send messages of any kind, designed to interfere with a user’s session, by any means, locally or via the Internet. You may not use the Service or take any action that will result in excessive consumption or utilization of Clearwire’s system or network resources, or which may weaken network performance, or which adversely affects the performance of the Services for other Clearwire customers, all as determined in Clearwire’s sole discretion. Such prohibited actions include, but are not limited to: using the Service to host a web server site which attracts excessive traffic at your Premises, continuously uploading or downloading streaming video or audio, usenet hosting, or continuous FTP uploading or downloading. In the event that Clearwire detects excessive use by you, Clearwire may restrict your access to Clearwire’s network, increase the fees associated with your Service, including upgrading you to a higher class of Service, or terminate your Service. Clearwire has the right but not the obligation to restrict any uses of the Equipment or Service that Clearwire believes in its sole discretion violate the Agreement or applicable law.

I've highlighted the parts that are so absurdly generic and open to interpretation as to be laughable.

But I've saved the best for last ...

13. Privacy; Monitoring the Service. Clearwire is under no obligation to monitor the Service, but Clearwire may do so from time to time. You agree that Clearwire may disclose any information regarding you or your use of the Service for any reason and at its sole discretion in order to satisfy applicable laws, regulations, governmental requests, or in order to operate and deliver the Service in an efficient manner, or to otherwise protect Clearwire’s property or legal interests and those of its subscribers, or to ensure your compliance with the Agreement. Please see Clearwire’s Privacy Policy at ww.clearwire.ie.

That ..... is a legal non-entity (ie. they cannot hold you to it irrespective of signature or not), and flies in the face of the DPA, which would land them in very hot water if contested in court.

30. Indemnification. You will defend, indemnify, and hold Clearwire and its directors, officers, employees, agents, affiliates, and shareholders and any other service provider or supplier (collectively, the “Clearwire Parties”) harmless against any and all claims, losses, damages, and liabilities sustained by the Clearwire Parties resulting from, arising out of the Agreement, the Services, any breach or non-fulfillment of any representation, warranty, or covenant set forth in the Agreement or from your use of the Equipment or the Service. You also agree to pay Clearwire’s reasonable attorneys’ and expert witness fees and costs incurred in enforcing the Agreement, including any such fees incurred in connection with any appeal. This paragraph will survive termination of the Agreement for any reason.

wtf?!!! Lets see if I have this right .... so besides them expecting you to cover their costs if you screw up on something, if they f*ck up in a grotesque manner, they expect you to let them off the hook and pay them for the "pleasure"?

Tbh, the most alarming part in all the above is that part about privacy. It's like saying that if someone signs a piece of paper stating it's ok to kill them, that it's therefore legal. It is in its f*ck.

JNive

or in order to operate and deliver the Service in an efficient manner

so in their view, if they needed to raise cash to continue providing a reliable and efficient service they have the right to sell off information about you and how you use their service and quite possibly, the sites that you visit etc

Lemming

JNive wrote:

so in their view, if they needed to raise cash to continue providing a reliable and efficient service they have the right to sell off information about you and how you use their service and quite possibly, the sites that you visit etc

In short, they sell spam-lists.

Sponge Bob

Clearwire have given themselves permission to sell spam lists at their "sole discretion" . Yes.

The Clearwiree T&Cs are completely illegal in Ireland and in total breach of about 10 EU directives. Nevertheless Comreg who licence them obviously do not give a damn .

The fact that they refer to an "attorney" gives an indication of where they cut n pasted them from.

Bas as IBB were ( they have improved hugely and deserve credit for that) they never sank that low . I am really glad that Clearwire did not get their grubby paws on them.

Rozie

P2P seems to be working a little better now. Still not great, but a good 80% faster than it was the last few nights, now bearable.