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Server outage every morning at 3am

  • 19-12-2006 3:45am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭


    I take it that the servers do some maintenance every morning between 3 and 3.30am. Surely there would be a little less traffic at 4.30am or so. Any chance you could change the time when this happens?
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    it's always asked, and the reason it's done at that time is because it have the least amount of traffic.

    the admins have logs like you know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭Mr. Flibble


    I wonder how they know this. Once 3am was chosen it would cause less traffic at that time.
    Are there any threads with a good response from an admin?


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    I believe this was done before, you could try looking over old posts. However, believe it or not, the admins are actually professionals in the world of IT (for the most part) and even more surprisingly, this wouldn't be the first website they've put together and run...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭Mr. Flibble


    3am is my peak hour and no matter professional the admins are that isn't changing!

    I would like to see proof that 3am has less traffic than 4am. I'm not calling you guys liars, I'm just naturally skeptical.

    Can you suggest any keywords to search for old threads? I searched before creating this thread and couldn't find anything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭drive3331


    I have a link for an earlier thread too March 2006


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Diogenes


    3am is my peak hour and no matter professional the admins are that isn't changing!


    Dear Boards please change everything to suit my needs.

    In other news, I'd also like to see december be less cold dark and wintery.

    I would like to see proof that 3am has less traffic than 4am. I'm not calling you guys liars, I'm just naturally skeptical.

    I'm not calling you guys liars I just found a more polite way of calling you liars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    Not a smart ass answer, but you have been here for 6yrs. Have you never seen threads like this in Feedback before? :/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    I, and many others, have requested this on several occasions. the overwhelming responce is "NO".


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Diogenes


    julep wrote:
    I, and many others, have requested this on several occasions. the overwhelming responce is "NO".


    Boards 3am outage. The admin's way of saying "Dude, like get some sleep"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    ecksor wrote:
    I've checked the logs for the last year and the quietest time is consistently a period of time just after 3am when there are no log entries.
    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Yes but shockingly it is that way because of the 3am back up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    3am may be your peak hour, but 4am will be someone else's peak. And 5am someone else's peak hour. Between 2am and 6am, you can be pretty much guaranteed that there are only two groups of people on boards; Gamers and shift workers. They're here constantly between those hours, so no matter what hour the backup is at, there will be complaints.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭markpb


    seamus wrote:
    3am may be your peak hour, but 4am will be someone else's peak. And 5am someone else's peak hour. Between 2am and 6am, you can be pretty much guaranteed that there are only two groups of people on boards; Gamers and shift workers. They're here constantly between those hours, so no matter what hour the backup is at, there will be complaints.

    You forgot Ruu and the other expatriates :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    and alcoholics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    markpb wrote:
    You forgot Ruu and the other expatriates :)
    I was about to say that.
    Boards has reached a stage now where many of it's posters are based over seas. The down time would be more of a pain for us because it is definitly in our peak time. But it is only 30-35min, not long to wait for your next fix.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,984 ✭✭✭✭Lump


    As other people have said just because 3am is the time you use boards, plenty of other people use it at 4am, 5am, 6am etc etc, people from all over the world access this site, and unless you want to potentially lose all your posts and the website to fall over, the database needs to be backed up.
    Any chance you could change the time when this happens?

    Our Survey Says: NA NA


  • Subscribers Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭CuLT


    Lads, it's 30 minutes. Get a grip.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    CuLT wrote:
    Lads, it's 30 minutes. Get a grip.

    QFT.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭Stabshauptmann


    FFS!!

    Is this going to require another sticky at the top of this forum for people to stop asking this same question over and over.

    Heres a suggestion. Put one sticky with all the really obvious and repetitive questions, call it "Read me if you're stupid" and then site ban anyone who asks one of the questions for 3 days.

    For added effect call a gathering card after the first person to get banned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    How about custom avatars? (em.. for the non-subscribers I mean).

    And oh, a karma system would be lovely.

    It's a wonder nobody has thought of these things before. God, I'm dead clever, me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,626 ✭✭✭Stargal


    I find the 3am stoppage really useful actually - means it's definitely time to get off boards and get some sleep...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭Mr. Flibble


    Rabies wrote:
    Not a smart ass answer, but you have been here for 6yrs. Have you never seen threads like this in Feedback before? :/

    Nope, never been in this forum before. I don't really like it to tell the truth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    This is now officially the latest "3am" thread that will be referred to next time,
    and there will be a next time.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Well... maybe if they brought the old search back... :p:p:p

    *runs*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    markpb wrote:
    You forgot Ruu and the other expatriates :)

    Ah no, thats when its time to get a cup of tea and a biccie. I cannae do without it until the next mod comes along to take over from me shift. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    Ah, Boards.ie, the Empire upon which the sun never sets.*



    * We can't be trusted in the dark.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,314 ✭✭✭Talliesin


    It's all true. I admit it.

    *SOB*

    I remember it all to my enduring shame.

    There we all were in the Spin Solutions office* when it became apparant that backups would have to be done and that they'd have to put enough strain on the server as to bring it to a standstill.

    And that was when DeVore got out the D-12.

    Regi was furiously pointing to the graphs that showed that the quietest time on boards was indeed 4am. And indeed it also showed that Mr. Flibble wouldn't be as active online in 2006 as at 3am (statistics really do show a lot). But no, DeV was weilding that infernal dodecahedron like a, a, I don't know something infernal with 12 sides. He threw the die, and it came up at 3.

    All you people who like to get a quick look in before work be glad it didn't land on 8 or 9.





    * If you don't know what Spin Solutions was, ask a boards old timer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Talliesin wrote:
    * If you don't know what Spin Solutions was, ask a boards old timer.

    Hello Talliesin, how are you? What was Spin Solutions?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    Pighead wrote:
    Hello Talliesin, how are you? What was Spin Solutions?
    DeVore and the others used to make tumble dryers before they heard about this internet lark. Then they opened their web development company, and called it Spin Solutions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    Pighead wrote:
    Hello Talliesin, how are you? What was Spin Solutions?

    The best damn internet dry cleaners there ever was! *wipes tear*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭tba


    We should live life on the edge and NEVER back up!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,314 ✭✭✭Talliesin


    That's how it used to be done.

    Many posts died.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    Talliesin wrote:
    That's how it used to be done.

    Many posts died.
    Or so the admins would have us believe...

    [edit]OMFG, someone tried to shoot me, it must be an admin for revealing this most heinous of secrets!!! SPREAD THE WORD, IT'S A KONSPEARISSY!!![/edit]


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    The "dead" posts were really relocated to a sweatshop in Turkmenistan, where they make iPod knockoffs day in, day out. The UN ignores my indignant letters :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    I think we need a Dead Posts Society forum.
    A place to discuss the past and find our inner self worth


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,280 ✭✭✭regi


    When we first started to backup, the default time of the scheduler was 3am. We've not changed it since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭Mr. Flibble


    Lol at all the know-alls who made up reasons for the 3am time. Thanks for giving us the actual reason regi.

    Can I suggest moving it to 4.15am. I would imagine that there are more posters still awake at 4am from the night before than there are people awaking at 4.30am the next day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,478 ✭✭✭GoneShootin


    seamus wrote:
    3am may be your peak hour, but 4am will be someone else's peak. And 5am someone else's peak hour.

    I'm always at my peak.


    boo-ya.jpg


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  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Curiously, I run into the 3am backup quite a bit because of my sleeping pattern and "job". It has to be some time and thats the time we've chosen.

    The good news is that it should be greatly reduced with the arrival of the new servers (mostly likely over the new year but who knows during the silly season).

    DeV.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 7,730 Mod ✭✭✭✭delly


    I find the 3am rule great for knowing when its time to sleep...........or, just try and grab another quick game of Company of Heroes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Lol at all the know-alls who made up reasons for the 3am time. Thanks for giving us the actual reason regi.

    Can I suggest moving it to 4.15am. I would imagine that there are more posters still awake at 4am from the night before than there are people awaking at 4.30am the next day.

    As a fellow Poker forum poster (and poker player) I am going to back up Mr. Fibble on his request: the 3am outage also annoys me as it tends to be around the time I get home on a lot of my work nights (too many tbh): and a quick peek at Boards before bed is always nice.

    But you can’t suit everyone I suppose. And at least we have our health. Isn’t that the main thing after all?


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    health is -EV

    DeV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    DeVore wrote:
    health is -EV

    DeV.

    lol - wp Tom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,280 ✭✭✭regi


    I think I've only run into the 3am backup once in the last year (sad huh).

    That one time I ran into it, I logged into the servers, stopped the backups, read boards and restarted the backup afterwards :D (even sadder)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    OMG abuse of powar!!!!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    regi wrote:
    I think I've only run into the 3am backup once in the last year (sad huh).

    That one time I ran into it, I logged into the servers, stopped the backups, read boards and restarted the backup afterwards :D (even sadder)

    Fantastic post :D

    Anyway, the 3AM backup is what normally tells me "OK Sully, its time to go to bed." so I just obey and hit the sack.. Extending that would mean I get even less hours sleep! :| Anyway, those 3AM Lurkers could just say "Right, well boards will be down for a half hour so lets take a quick break, head to the kitchen and make us some Tea & Toast." and sure, slap on an episode of CSI Miami if they got the gift set from a lovely girlfriend this year :D

    Surely loosing Boards for a half an hour is worth loosing a large chunk of boards if the servers die and the admins are like "We aint got no backups, cause we had to facilitate the 3AM dudes"!? Boards may be addictive, but chillax. A half hour away wont kill any brain cells or make you run riot demanding a boards fix. It could be a lot worse. Boards could have opening hours.. 9-5. How would you like that!? Ya. My point exactly.

    Thank You and Good Night. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,080 ✭✭✭✭Random


    regi wrote:
    I think I've only run into the 3am backup once in the last year (sad huh).

    That one time I ran into it, I logged into the servers, stopped the backups, read boards and restarted the backup afterwards :D (even sadder)
    Maybe we should all get root then? Makes everyone happy :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,698 ✭✭✭InFront


    Oh no, it's actually gotten to the stage where not even the backup will send me to bed:o . Ah well it's just for the xmas hols.

    Are you suuuure the quietest time is 3am? The night is young dudes!

    PS: Backup is so 35 minutes and not 30


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