Finding god with AA (36nl)

Hectorjelly

6 handed on tribeca. Villain is an ok player who normally plays tight/ok poker. I have $500 and he covers. Im utg with AA. Im sure I have the best hand now so I bet half my stack, $250. I bet half to make it look like im not commited, but I will probably call an all in. Villain calls from the button.

The flop is Ks 7h 3h and I reraise $125. I bet half of my remaining stack because Im now not so sure Im ahead and dont want to commit everything without a read. If villain folds I will assume I had the best hand or maybe pushed him off a small set. Villain calls

The turn is the Js. I raise $62.5. Im now beaten by a lot of the Jack/x range, so dont want to commit too much to the pot. If villain raises me all in I will probably fold, or maybe call to create a superloose image. Villain calls

The river is the second Ks. I am now fairly sure im beaten so I reraise to $31.25. Villain calls.

A next card comes on the board. It is the third Ks. I now put my opponent on quads so I check to $15.63. Villain calls


Some questions:

A)
If the software magically deals more board cards (n), what number does n have to be for me to bet 0 (If i continue to bet half of my remaining stack each street). Remember this is online and assume that the software can compute an infinite number of decimals



If the universe is infinite, (which it is), then anything with a non zero chance of happening must occur an infinite amount of times. So given that there is an infinite amount of money already given to charity, any further money given on this world actually has no net effect because infinity + x is the same as infinity. Given all this how many ships make a sheep?

Rb

Can I've a toke of whatever you've been smoking?

5starpool

lay off those damn mushrooms.....

bohsman

You should have just pushed preflop, wouldve saved you all these questions.

phantom_lord

n=42

30something

Hector, what "game" were you playing?

[nicK]

auto fold the flop..

sikes

you will never bet zero, but theres only 34 more cards.

money is finite. u stingy ****.

why am i bothering replying, your clearly wrecked!

Rnger

n = infinite

You cant reraise to $125 when theres no bets, you similarly cant raise to $62.5 or reraise to $31.25... and you certainly cant check to $15.63!

Do you have the As? In that case your eventual royal flush will beat his quads

Ste05

bohsman wrote:

You should have open folded preflop, would've saved you all these questions.

FYP

Hectorjelly

serious replies only pls

Hitman Actual

A) n = infinity, assuming repeated cards (and seeing as it's a 'magical' client, why not).

How dare you come on here and say that giving any more money to charity is pointless. You're a f**king discrace to this forum. Be gone, evil-doer.

sikes

Rnger wrote:

You cant reraise to $125 when theres no bets, you similarly cant raise to $62.5 or reraise to $31.25... and you certainly cant check to $15.63!

tongue in cheek

Rnger wrote:

Do you have the As? In that case your eventual royal flush will beat his quads

in the holdem games i play in, the other 4 players get 2 cards, and we also burn cards....

Hectorjelly

lenny_leonard wrote:

A)

How dare you come on here and say that giving any more money to charity is pointless. You're a f**king discrace to this forum. Be gone, evil-doer.

poker is about taking money from people, not giving it to them (bops excluded*), so in fact its you who is the disgrace!





* this is whats commonly known as a joke, dont ban me pls!

Rnger

lenny_leonard wrote:

How dare you come on here and say that giving any more money to charity is pointless. You're a f**king discrace to this forum. Be gone, evil-doer.

Any self respecting poker player would take all of their granny's money at the poker table

Hectorjelly

Rnger wrote:

n = infinite

You cant reraise to $125 when theres no bets, you similarly cant raise to $62.5 or reraise to $31.25... and you certainly cant check to $15.63!

Do you have the As? In that case your eventual royal flush will beat his quads

$1k hu. We play $2 $5 blinds that never change and we play someone loses all the money. I will play with only one hole card and I wont look at it.

Ste05

Hectorjelly wrote:

$1k hu. We play $2 $5 blinds that never change and we play someone loses all the money. I will play with only one hole card and I wont look at it.

Open invitation??

Hectorjelly

Ste05 wrote:

Open invitation??

you better not be trying to hustle me brotha!

Rnger

Hectorjelly wrote:

$1k hu. We play $2 $5 blinds that never change and we play someone loses all the money. I will play with only one hole card and I wont look at it.

I have no idea what point your trying to make here, I much prefer when your condescending commments are aimed at other people

Ste05

LOL, no, no, I'd just be interested in playing HU with someone who only has one hole card and can't look at it... , would be great fun...

ntlbell

Is LSD fashionable again?

Hectorjelly

Rnger wrote:

I have no idea what point your trying to make here, I much prefer when your condescending commments are aimed at other people

you insulted me so I was trying to bait you into playing me hu, the catch though
was if we played by the rules as stated there is no way I could win! I hereby rescind the offer.

I would like to offer to play anyone at pro ev 6 for money. im not going to lie though, (and Half Baked and IanMc can attest to it), my play is so good its incontrovertable evidence of the existance of god

Rnger

ntlbell wrote:

Is LSD fashionable again?

salvia is still legal

Hectorjelly

Rnger wrote:

salvia is still legal

totally different tho from what ive read. Ive never tried savia; is it worth doing? My acid days are well over!

Lafortezza

Take it to pm, no discussion of drugs legal or not on the poker forum, tyvm!

Hectorjelly

lafortezza wrote:

Take it to pm, no discussion of drugs legal or not on the poker forum, tyvm!

I once played poker on ketamine. Is it ok to talk about that?

Lafortezza

Hectorjelly wrote:

I once played poker on ketamine. Is it ok to talk about that?

Hi HJ, totally off topic but someone just reminded me that if you get banned from a forum a 2nd time it's for a whole month! That's pretty sick if you ask me but thems the rules!
I hope you have a great day posting on the boards.ie poker forum.
Best regards,
Laf.

Hectorjelly

lafortezza wrote:

Hi HJ, totally off topic but someone just reminded me that if you get banned from a forum a 2nd time it's for a whole month! That's pretty sick if you ask me but thems the rules!
I hope you have a great day posting on the boards.ie poker forum.
Best regards,
Laf.

haha thinly veiled warning!

I really did play poker on ketamine, since I know that talking about that would be ontopic (maybe not in this thread), my real question was is the discussion of drugs treated like any other off topic subject or is it specifically banned.

Lafortezza

Drugs on poker forum = lock/delete, drugs on the rest of boards.ie = lock and/or ban, mods discretion though.
I think there's a "Legal Highs" forums somewhere on boards, might be a private forum though.

Back on topic: I think it's roughly around 7 ships, but that depends on schooners.

Rnger

Hectorjelly wrote:

totally different tho from what ive read. Ive never tried savia; is it worth doing? My acid days are well over!

You can buy it in a shop in town, I wouldnt reccomend it. I lost complete control of myself for 5 minutes, thinking my friends were complete strangers amonsgt other things. I couldnt move much and couldnt really talk. Seeing weird ****... if your into that

eh.. i think there was a deck of cards in the room at the time

sorry lafortezza, ill be good

Hectorjelly

lafortezza wrote:

Drugs on poker forum = lock/delete, drugs on the rest of boards.ie = lock and/or ban, mods discretion though.
I think there's a "Legal Highs" forums somewhere on boards, might be a private forum though.

ah ok I didnt realise.

califano

I love this. This is the greatest forum since the war!.

LuckyLloyd

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Hitman Actual

Hectorjelly wrote:

poker is about taking money from people, not giving it to them (bops excluded*), so in fact its you who is the disgrace!

Meh, I was trying to kick off another morality outcry, it provides great entertainment over the weekend. Quiet so far, but it's early yet, I suppose...

phantom_lord

Is LSD fashionable again?

Not since the 80s

serious replies only pls

Ok.

A)
If the software magically deals more board cards (n), what number does n have to be for me to bet 0 (If i continue to bet half of my remaining stack each street). Remember this is online and assume that the software can compute an infinite number of decimals

5/6 would get you to a negligable figure, but obviously you can never get to 0.

If the universe is infinite, (which it is), then anything with a non zero chance of happening must occur an infinite amount of times. So given that there is an infinite amount of money already given to charity, any further money given on this world actually has no net effect because infinity + x is the same as infinity.

Your thinking is flawed here.

Given all this how many ships make sheep?

Somewhere in this book will lead you to the answer to that.
http://images.ucomics.com/images/pdfs/sadams/godsdebris.pdf

luckyvegas7

HJ that post reminds me of an eposide of red dwarf.

Hectorjelly

phantom_lord wrote:

Your thinking is flawed here

in what way?

phantom_lord

Hectorjelly wrote:

in what way?

Sorry, I think I just misread what you said.

Hectorjelly

phantom_lord wrote:

Sorry, I think I just misread what you said. Unless you meant currently there's an infinite amount of money already given to charity.

isnt there?

azzeretti

Hectorjelly wrote:

isnt there?

No, something isn't infinite just because you or I cannot count it. I assure you it is quantifiable.
Also, it is close to a certainty that between now and infinity-1 second there will be a zero chance of charitable donations. Unless, you are assuming that the universe resolves around you and your timeline;)

BTW, if you do believe this, the same can be applied to your wages. I wouldn't let you boss hear your argue this (that is of course, if you have one!)

phantom_lord

Hectorjelly wrote:

isnt there?

i don't think so.

Hectorjelly

You are both wrong, maybe you missed that this is assuming an infinite universe.

In an infinite universe anything which has a non zero chance of happening must occur an infinite amount of times. Thats because no matter how small a number is, multiplying it by infinity gives infinity. So since the chance of someone giving money to charity is greater than 0 in an infinite universe charity already has an infinite amount of money.

cardshark202

Callcallcallcallcallcallcall

azzeretti

Hectorjelly wrote:

In an infinite universe anything which has a non zero chance of happening must occur an infinite amount of times.

You can't assume that at any time point between now and infinity that there will be a non zero chance of this, or many occurrences.

I'm not sure you are using this definition correctly. If an event occurs, it is obviously has a value greater than zero at that point in time. However, in an infinte universe that value needs to be greater than zero for any(every) point in time - to infinity. Eg Flipping a coin, there is always, at any point in time, going to be a value greater than one for each event outcome, except for singularity, where the whole sh1thouse comes down

In your example, this event cannot have a value greater than zero for every point in time from now to infinity.

Hectorjelly

I dont understand what you are trying to say! What does time have to do with anything?

azzeretti

Hectorjelly wrote:

I dont understand what you are trying to say! What does time have to do with anything?

Apary from the very definition of infinity being based and inextricably linked to it. Nothing!

You can't have any event, ever, without time. All events and their outcomes are dependent on time.

Getting a little bit off the Poker topic but how and ever!

Hectorjelly

azzeretti wrote:

Apary from the very definition of infinity being based and inextricably linked to it. Nothing!

You can't have any event, ever, without time. All events and their outcomes are dependent on time.

Getting a little bit off the Poker topic but how and ever!

I like to keep a somewhat newtonian view of the world, so the universe can be infinite now; but not tomorrow.

Also, you cant have a poker hand without time, but its possible to discuss one without mentioning time!

I think we are fine unless we go back to discussing drugs!

azzeretti

Hectorjelly wrote:

I like to keep a somewhat newtonian view of the world, so the universe can be infinite now; but not tomorrow.

HERESY!

Also, you cant have a poker hand without time, but its possible to discuss one without mentioning time!

I was just discussing the charity aspect, not the poker hand. Unfortunatley, like I said, to discuss any event you need to discuss time.

I think we are fine unless we go back to discussing drugs!

Pity:D

Sparky1808

Hector you are truly the dogs bollocks.

I'm best not to reply with anything sensible, as i'll get slated to death no doubt - plus this thread has to be Boards.ie's most confusing poker thread ever.

MrPillowTalk

I heard recently that there is a drug available for ADD that some online players are taking apparently it really focuses you and makes it far easier to play loads of tables etc. Cant remember the name but would be worth looking into if it helps when playing long sessions etc.

I hate maths.

Lafortezza

Adderall, spelling might be off, apparently it lets you concentrate on 50 billion tables at once for weeks on end with no effort.