Fear Factory

Karl Hungus

You know, for some reason I decided to whip out Demanufacture today.

I sometimes forget how good Fear Factory are. Probably not the most varied band out there, but they really have carved out their own niché, there's not much out there like them. The only other band that are similar in sound that I really know of is Strapping Young Lad.

Anyone else like 'em?

Den_M

I loved Obsolete when it came out. I bought it the day of release and it was the heaviest record I had at that point. Dino's guitar sounds enormous on that record. They've always had a nice blend of metal and synthetic sounds. That band Spineshank totally tried to sound like them.

Necronomicon

For some reason I never got their last album, even though I loved Archetype before it. I wasn't gone on the song they made a video for.
Is it worth getting? They wouldn't be amongst my favourite band, but a really decent listen.

smackbunnybaby

transgression the newest album isnt essential listening to be honest, but if you like Archetype you will probably like it.
if you are buying their albums get some earlier stuff before transgression (however avoid digimortal - very poor)

i agree Karl btw - great band, little bit different to what was going in metal at the time.demanufacture was excellent and i always considered it the heaviest thing i had heard at the time.

"i've got no more goddamn regrets"

Karl Hungus

I got Digimortal, and then just kinda tuned out after that. I should probably check out Archetype though.

Shiminay

Same for me with Digimortal. I'd heard plenty of their stuff and said I'd buy a cd myself. Unfortunately picked that one

The heaviness and depth of sound from the guitar was always very impressive.

Karl Hungus

Kharn wrote:

The heaviness and depth of sound from the guitar was always very impressive.

That's 7-String guitars for ya.

Den_M

Isn't their Belgian bass player on guitar now? He's got a singature 7 string Jackson. Just one EMG 707 in it. Very minimal looking. Suppose thats all he needs though.

billsteersnose

I remember the Demanufacture album alright but never really bought much of their stuff after that. What's the story with the band now? Is it just Burton and the drummer from the original lineup? I loved that tune that Dino wrote on the Roadrunners United CD with Andreas from Sepultura...

Motley Crue

I love this band, was going to go see them earlier this year in England, but the plans fell through. Its a pity, as this band have always reminded me of Sepultura, a band who release decent material but just dont get the credit they deserved because certain members leave the band. They are really past their prime though, but I still think they deserve more attention then they get

smackbunnybaby

it is burton and raymond (drums) from original line up.
the old bassist christian wolbers is now on guitar from dino cazares and they have a new bass player, but cant remember his name.

Karl Hungus

Den_M wrote:

Isn't their Belgian bass player on guitar now? He's got a singature 7 string Jackson. Just one EMG 707 in it. Very minimal looking. Suppose thats all he needs though.

Yeah, the old Ibanez Dino Cazares models just had a single EMG in them too.

Beekay

I always give Demanufacture a listen now and again, and Archetype was good but Transgression...is a no no for me!

Malice

smackbunnybaby wrote:

it is burton and raymond (drums) from original line up.
the old bassist christian wolbers is now on guitar from dino cazares and they have a new bass player, but cant remember his name.

Byron Stroud from Strapping Young Lad played bass on the Archetype tour. I'm not sure if he did the same on Transgression.

As Motley Crue said, they are past their prime now. I just hope I get a chance to see them live before they call it quits altogether. They have written some fantastic songs in their time. and judging by some of the footage I've seen of them live, they put on a great show. I have heard that Burton doesn't quite nail the vocals any more but as long as he keeps the growl I'd be happy!

You could put together a "Best of" that would kick some serious ass! I think Demanufacture is their best album, closely followed by Obsolete. In fact, the main reason I bought a seven string guitar was to learn to play the song "Descent" off Obsolete properly

Enough rambling, in short I highly recommend them to any metal fan. As Karl said, there's not much else like them out there!

the_obsolete

They've always been tasty listening for me, raymond has heavily influenced my doublekick style and what better mentor? They've had their bad patches and i'm sad to say are probably on the way out, but we'll always have demanufacture and obsolete (and some of soul of a new machine and archtype mind you...)

Civilian_Target

Demanufacture is a superb album - definitely their best.
Saw them over the summer and I have to admit, I was impressed! Their rhythm is impecable (and this leads to great moshing as well!)

Frank Bullitt

great band,saw them in the ambo a few years ago,great gig,christian on guitar now gives them a new sound i think,i quite like the new stuff

Patricide

Karl Didnt you start up this exact same thread like 6 months ago ? O well im not complaining cause fear factory are such a class band. I concur witheveryone here in saying that demanufacture is there best album, obsolete and archetype are close by though and digimortal is deffinatly there worst.

never picked up transgression though after hearing that terrible single/video thing. might just check it out.

Karl Hungus

Patricide wrote:

Karl Didnt you start up this exact same thread like 6 months ago ?

No.

dimerocks

Good band, great drummer! achetype was highly impressive i felt. some v.good tunes on it.

Rockee

Demaufacture was the soundtrack for my summer back in 96. (Definitely wasnt Load even though it grew on me!) I can remember 'HK Hunter Killer' from Demaufacture was used in an ad for Phillips. I remember sitting in the cinema and it coming on during the ads

I saw them 6-7 years ago at the SFX. Dino led us all in a chant of 'You fat bastard, you fat bastard!!!' Thems were the days

Malice

Patricide wrote:

Karl Didnt you start up this exact same thread like 6 months ago ? O well im not complaining cause fear factory are such a class band. I concur witheveryone here in saying that demanufacture is there best album, obsolete and archetype are close by though and digimortal is deffinatly there worst.

never picked up transgression though after hearing that terrible single/video thing. might just check it out.

To go off topic briefly, is this the thread you're thinking of?

Now, back on topic, I would recommend Fear Factory's latest album. There are a couple of excellent songs on there. Personally I really enjoyed the cover of U2's "I Will Follow" even if I know a lot of others didn't. "Empty Vision" is also a great song. The single "Moment of Impact" definitely wasn't great though.

Patricide

nope that wasnt the tread, ill look for it later i can remember karl posting in it dunno who started it (well its either that or ive gone crazy but ya never know, i just might have)

Karl Hungus

Managed to pick up Archetype the other for a tenner, score!

Brilliant album, ten times better than Digimortal.

Patricide

Karl Hungus wrote:

Managed to pick up Archetype the other for a tenner, score!

Brilliant album, ten times better than Digimortal.

Agreed

Malice

Nice one! How did you manage that though? It's only 2 years old? Surely they haven't devalued Fear Factory that much?

If it was only a tenner and if the album quality is related to it's pricetag does that mean the same place will pay people to take away copies of Transgression and Digimortal?

Frank Bullitt

i think transgression is ok,not great but still a good factory album,one thing is for sure,they have hugly improved since dino left

Karl Hungus

malice_ wrote:

Nice one! How did you manage that though? It's only 2 years old? Surely they haven't devalued Fear Factory that much?

If it was only a tenner and if the album quality is related to it's pricetag does that mean the same place will pay people to take away copies of Transgression and Digimortal?

No, the price has nothing to do with it's quality, it's just that I'm a cheap bastard, so finding good stuff for a good price is great!

gline

yeh like the old FF stuff, never got into anything since they released the song linchpin. would love to see them live as was mentioned before - before they call it quits

the only thing with fear factory is they can get quite boring after listening to them for awhile mainly because of the vocals... all sound the same.

but they are definitly unique

Karl Hungus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyY1OAB_J30

Motley Crue

that clip was disgracefully violent, but hilarious

Bought a copy of Transgression a couple of weeks ago and still have it, taught I was gonna get rid of it but held onto it anyway. I love Supernova, 540000 Farenheit and I Will Follow

gline

hahaha i love that video

Karl Hungus

Motley Crue wrote:

that clip was disgracefully violent, but hilarious

I nearly choked to death I was laughing so hard at it.

Motley Crue

Karl Hungus wrote:

I nearly choked to death I was laughing so hard at it.

I have to admit that was funny, i was amazed by what happened

Patricide

Brilliant Vid

Malice

gline wrote:

the only thing with fear factory is they can get quite boring after listening to them for awhile mainly because of the vocals... all sound the same.

I would argue that Burton's vocals are awesome. The guy can mix harsh screaming, guttural growling and surprisingly high pitched singing very well. Have a listen to these and tell me if you still thing he always sings the same way:

• The deep growling of Scumgrief off Soul of a New Machine (I had to listen to it after watching that video clip )
• The chorus and verse of Terminate off Hatefiles.
• The layered vocals of Invisible Wounds also from Hatefiles
• The rapping of Back the F*ck up from Digimortal

And that's just from the Fear Factory songs that are near each other on my Winamp playlist, I could find more

Patricide

Yea invisible wounds is prolly the best thing on digimortal, really shows off burtons clean vocals.

Malice

I meant the version from the Hatefiles album where the drums and bass are mixed far better but either version is good from the vocal point of view.

Tar.Aldarion

If I remember correctly, only their first album is good imo.

Karl Hungus

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

If I remember correctly, only their first album is good imo.

No, they've plenty of good albums, as so:

Soul Of A New Machine
Demanufacture
Obsolete
Archetype

Haven't heard transgression, so I won't comment on that, but so far Digimortal is the only I've heard that's ****.

Malice

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

If I remember correctly, only their first album is good imo.

Their first album was "Soul of a New Machine" released in 1992 I think. It's a very different sound to their later releases. I'm not sure why you think it's the best as it certainly bears little resemblance to their output once the guy from Frontline Assembly got involved. More Death Metal than Industrial Metal or Cyber Metal.

fifth

I have nearly all the albums, picked up transgression straight away although wasn't really impressed.

But fantastic band, easy to overlook them.

Malice

I'm just wondering if anyone's ever seen the DVD that Fear Factory brought out in 2001 called Digital Connectivity? I got it a few years ago and would recommend it to fans of the band. There's some great live footage on there especially of the song "Shock".

As it's a few years old it doesn't go through the saga of Dino leaving which maybe isn't such a bad thing!

Motley Crue

might try and get a hold of this sounds excellent

Karl Hungus

malice_ wrote:

I'm just wondering if anyone's ever seen the DVD that Fear Factory brought out in 2001 called Digital Connectivity? I got it a few years ago and would recommend it to fans of the band. There's some great live footage on there especially of the song "Shock".

As it's a few years old it doesn't go through the saga of Dino leaving which maybe isn't such a bad thing!

Nope, don't have it. Might check it out though.

Executive Steve

excellent band! not too many rock bands i'd be into but demanufacture blew my mind when i heard it...

LightofDarkness

Sorry, HATE this band. Passionately.

Malice

LightofDarkness wrote:

Sorry, HATE this band. Passionately.

Would you care to explain why? I can't recall any metal fans that I've spoken to about Fear Factory would have said they hated them passionately. If this was a thread about Linkin Park then I'd understand